The New Dead Prez Video

I haven't seen that video but I always thoughts Dead Prez was speaking to the most distressed communities in this country and everyone else were just by-standers to it. Thats not a knock at all to their music but I don't think there music is made for me, b/c I'm not in the situation they are rapping about primarily. Thats why I thought they schools for example was a good song for the people who it was sung for. If you are in a school not learning anything relevent to your actual situation, then what is that school good for? Its probably worth examining what your school is doing for you.

So like I don't know, I'm not about to tell people Dead Prez is rapping for to love Dead Prez but on the other hand, Dead Prez ain't rapping for me so I'm not about to go in there and say they are off unless I'm really talking from the perspective of being knowleagable about the situations they are reacting to.

That video is talior-made to cause controversy... Did someone page Bill on this one yet because I'm sure he is on his way to a soapbox to protest this one.

ok, i have not seen the video. but what has always bothered me about dead prez is what bothers me about the "movement" they are part of (and by the way, the movements' basic causes i agree with: free mumia, free the MOVE 9, free political prisoners, etc) is that they are basically the flip side of what they claim to be against. it's a violent stance for a violent system, all for the sake of being a "revolutionary." they have all this rhetoric about self-determination and armed resistance, but at the end of the day i always see them as perpetuating the oppression they think they are against. in many ways they are what "the system" hopes for-- stereotypes of angry young black men who will carjack a white family just for shits and giggles. and by the way: the tough talk about running up on crackers in their city hall and overthrowing the system-- any adult who thinks critically knows that this is ill-advised bravado. dead prez are like most of the people i encountered at rallies, meetings, concerts, open mics, conferences, etc. (and by the way, they all had dead prez posters) when i went to those things: angry kids who don't really know how to effect actual change so they just scream and threaten about it...

I just watched the video, and I'm wondering what happened to dp's locks (not that it's that important) and the emphasis on being healthy (ex: In the video, the pizza, the junk food from the grocery store evidenced by the plastic potato chip-esque bag; I'm assuming that they would advocate quelling hunger as the largest priority though) from their previous albums (not to say something like they've 'sold out' or 'become mainstream', but I wonder if it's part of larger efforts of what is an obviously larger push for RBG, which makes sense, they do seem to be all about strategy and taking certain endeavors as part of larger goals). I had read a post on okayplayer 'bout how a pornstar hosted their release party, and the video has the scene right before the camcorder cuts out, but on an album sticker I got it says 'real black girls' on it (but then again, the last scene of the music video probably answers this).
I'm still not sure what to make of all this. I kinda hope to say something like the system wants us to think that the system wants them to do that kind of stuff, or something like that haha, but I would be more interested in hearing what m1 and stic.man have to say for themselves.
I'm sure they're aware of what kind of response the video will generate, with its cynical, and somewhat dark humor. But I kind of think that they are saying that the fact that RBG is a reality to some is whack, things shouldn't have to be that way. I wouldn't go so far just to placate dp as just angry folks who can't effectualize change (I'm not 100% if sally actually is saying that about dp, though I am thinking so, but that's probably true of a lot of listeners and fans), most of their music and their efforts in their public lives I have read about would give me a different impression.
On advocating violence just for the sake of being revolutionary, I don't think that essentialization is fair (though I don't really agree with the advocacy of violence either), it seems to be a reflection of a lot of 'revolutionary' acts that occured before, and dp seems to just be taking a cue from numerous events in history. At the same time, dp seems to acknowledge that they are a different strain of revolutionary: RBG's. I think violence is something inherent in gangstaism and given its mass appeal (and maybe in some ways, closeness to reality for certain people), it seems to be part of a broader strategy to reach out to people and attract them to socialist efforts.
I donno.

I just peeped the video, via your link. But, I had to watch it with no sound because the computer here in this office at work has no speakers. I will watch it again later.

For now, from what I can see (and not hear, having not heard the song yet) it's a parody of "reality TV"... The joke about reality TV is that it's not really real. "Survivor" is not reality; "The Real World" was NEVER real; and half of the shows out there that claim to be reality-based are so far from real ("Temptation Island"? When's the last time anyone you know was in THAT situation?) that it's almost a misnomer to call them reality-based entertainment.

I make this call based on the look of the video-- handheld cameras, some scenes shot in night-vision, most of them designed to look like it's really happeneing. No MTV edits, no music video cliches of blingin' and ballin'-- that is, until the scene where they're chillin' large.

Now, I could only read the subtitles-- I have no idea what DP was saying as those subtitles read. Were they speaking another language or where they talking slang? Once I see the video again, I might be able to infer more from it, but it seems to me that the message (without the benefits of lyrics and audio) is that no one would really want to see a true reality show, especially if it was a poor black person's reality.

This addresses the constant issue of 'keeping it real' in hip-hop-- is what we saw really real? Is it at least as real as what passes for 'reality TV' nowadays? The only thing that kept reminding me that it was a video was the prescence of the MCs rapping into the camera. This is to the director's credit-- the "cinema verite" style was achieved quite successfully in this video.

The video kind of reminds me of Prodigy's "Smack My Bitch Up" video, but the twist at the end of that video seemed like less of a cop-out. I was really shocked at the end of "Smack My Bitch Up" because the visual punchline was one that needed no words. You can watch that Prodigy video without sound and get the gist of what was going on.

Having said all of this, I will try later on tonight to find a computer with speakers. But I thought I'd comment anyway, from a non-audio perspective.

Sex, you need to watch it again with the speakers on...And yeah, the girl in the "sex" scene is a porn star.

I think the last 20 seconds are self-explanatory. Dead Prez is playing on the mixed-message of the video to get the commercial success every artist is looking for.

Poor confused Dead Prez.

They always talk about "Pimping the System" and fighting the oppressor yet; signed to the biggest slave owners in music.

Not once But Twice!! (See Steve Rifkin).

Of course, If you ask (hypothetically) these two cats this question, naturally they will say that the "outlets" are the most viable with a major, but its a cop out.

They to have to feed their families.

It's the one of biggest contradictions in the history of hiphop.

How can they say Pimp the System, when they are being pimped?

Sony is getting paid off our Pain.

Alas, It's all about the money & pushing urban propoganda.

The video was made specifically to cause controversy. So let me guess, they are going to run to the press and say, "yeah they (the system) wouldn't allow us to play the video".

"So get it the album anyway you can"

Fight the Power, Yeah Right.

They took a lot of scenes from "Gangsta Tapes".

Let's get somet things straight
- I think they're fraud, as persons and as politicians
- I think a lot of their ideas are halfbaked and not thought out
- I think they're terrible rappers
- I think comparing them to PE is a disrespect to political hip hop, esp when cats like the Coup and Paris are still making records
- I think they wanna be Southern when it's convenient, but they'd rather be from BK.
- I think, that guys my age, which they are, should have learned from X-Clan, PE, Brand Nubian, PRT, BDP, YZ, Latifah and the rest of the conscious era, should make far better songs - politically and musically - than they actually do.
- the whole RBG is disrespectful to both gangstas and revolutionaries, as well as "the avg black man" (read lumpen proletariat) - it disrespects the intelligence of the avg young black male hip hop listener.

But you cats are off y'alls rocker.

To address some of the anti-Dp's comments

You should read what Tom Morello (of Rage aGainst the machine) said about being on a major label.

http://www.progressive.org/jan04/intv0104.html

Q: How do you reconcile being anti-corporate and being on a major label?

Morello: Rage Against the Machine sold fourteen million records of totally subversive revolutionary propaganda. The reason why is that the albums were released on Sony and got that sort of distribution.

You have two choices. I admire bands like Fugazi that take the other route. They are completely self-contained and independent. But if you do that, then you have to be a businessman. Then I have to sit there and worry about the orders to Belgium and make sure they get there. That is not what I'm going to do.

We've had, in Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave, complete artistic control, 100 percent over everything. Every second of every video, every second of every album, every bit of advertisement comes directly from us. I don't even look at it as a tradeoff. You live in a friggin' capitalist world. If you want to sell 45s out of the back of your microbus, God bless you. And maybe that works better, I don't know. I'll see you at the finish line.
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As far as the video is concerned

1. It's a homage to Gang Tapes.

2. The song itself, I think you gotta look @ the context of the RBG, revolutionary but gangsta steez.

In the chorus "Aren't you hungry my nigga"
"Don't you wanna get paid my nigga"

This is the Malcolm X pulling your coat, steez...you know fishers of men.

Although I think, they might be sincere, with their "run up on them crackas in they city hall" (they wasn't saying that shit when they got arrested for standing in a public street, not to long ago)......

But the whole "over the top" style of this song is on purpose. You're supposed to pick up on the rest of the knowledge being kicked.

"hell yeah right there for the takin'
fuck welfare we say reparations"

"I'm homeless, jobless, time is hard
about hopeless, but I gotta eat regardless
no family to run to I'm 22
now tell me what the fuck am I supposed to do"

"Take my money off the top, like politicians do"

You really gotta listen to the song.
These cats is dumb, but they ain't idiots.

The whole point of the game, the revolution in rhyme if you will, is to get these young cats to rap along with you, and hope that some of the stuff you say sticks.

As rappers, that's all they can hope to do.
And if it's obvious that avg cats, ain't rocking the good rhymes (c) ice cube, you gotta give them something else.

Cee Lo said, "if I put it in a verse, y'all listen to some bull shit first"

I'm surprised all you critical thinkers, black scholars and hip hop heads haven't seen this song for what it is.

Even the dead prez dick riders (and there are plenty, although the Immortal Technique dickriders are making a come up), ain't really understand the misdirection that's going on.

i don't like it. i listened to their first album and from that, i had an image of them as being scholarly, even though i didn't agree with their message. but the image i get from the video is delinquent. how can people take them seriously with a video like that? how can they take themselves seriously?

Most activists are hypocrites on some level and I don't think it's entirely useful to spend a lot of time doting over whether or not DP is southern or from BK, or whether or not they're healthy or whatever. Nobody is entirely consistant, and spending time dissecting DP's contradictions is almost as much fun as arguing over whether slavery or the holocaust was worse.

Do you think Rush Limbaugh lost any listeners after his drug scandal?

That being said, "Pimp the System" is a bit much. K. Orr's got a point, but "Get By" pushed the same message without being as violent. Or "Fat Cats, Bigga Fish." They shoulda done a jam about getting a cup for water at Subway, then filling it with Coke. Or eating while you're in the grocery store. Or running out on restaurant checks. Or playing phone companies against each other and never paying for long-distance. There's a difference between pimping the system and comitting textbook felonies that 5-0 can figure out easy. And any misdirected 14 year old who thinks the DMV trick will work is in for a surprise.

You wanna pimp the system, get a fuckin education. Go to your state school for cheap, get a job and give a lot of money to charity, then write it off on your taxes, so the money's actually put to good use.

Wow, lots of great responses here, more than I have time to reply to before I get to bed.

I agree with Kari and Tom Morello on the major label issue, I wouldn't judge Dead Prez for making that choice.

I'm not down with knee-jerk anti-white sentiment, but besides that "run up on them crackers in city hall" never bothered my ears too much, to me that's a revenge fantasy about something we'll never actually get to do, getting at the people in power who oppress us. This is totally different from boastfully recounting an assault on some lowly delivery guy (who unlike in the video is usually another person of color when this crime occurs in real life, incidentally)

And yeah I definitely thought they were exaggerating certain things for effect, for one thing we know in real life they are on that health food steez so they wouldn't be eating pizza, right? But what they were trying to accomplish with all this was unclear. The whole thing is really muddled, to me, and that's a problem when you're dealing with such sticky issues.

I think you are taking it pretty much the same as I did, Kari, with the "fisher of men" theory, that they were trying to reach to the kids they think most need to hear their larger message, and the stuff I'm taking as ignorant is the bait to draw those kids in?

But my concern is that by mixing all that BS in with the supposed knowledge, and jumbling it all together so that they seem to be endorsing the BS as part of the knowledge, they are doing more harm than good. It's like trying to help kids out by selling them crack laced with vitamin C..

And I also think they are fully aware that controversy sells, and are deliberately playing into that by putting lines in the song that are sure to offend people, but leaving themselves room to say "hey you are just taking us out of context" and so on. Which can be a dangerous game to play, if you come sloppy with it.

A'ight... I just saw the video with the sound on.

I don't think this video is any more irresponsible than, say, "Black Steel" by PE, or even "By The Time I Get To Arizona" for that matter.

I don't think this video is any more irresponisble than anything NWA or Geto Boys ever put out.

I think the biggest complaint that can be made against "Hell Yeah" is that they seem to have changed their image. But I don't think it was done to be 'hard', like the Pharcyde did. I think it's because these two cats realized "Hey, college kids like our shit, but college kids are not the ones who need to hear us."

The Bill O'Reillys of the world are going to pick on hip-hop no matter what. Andre 3G drops an album about finding his soul mate, and all Republicanss can focus on is the gun on the cover. Is that Andre's fault? No. Is a video like this an easy target for rap critics? Yes, but then again ALL rap videos are easy targets for critics. I'll bet you there's some angry white man out there who missed the point of The Roots' "What They DO" video right as we speak.

Whether you like DP or not (I personally never cared for them) it's plain to see that they are trying to send a message with this song. This time, however, they want to reach thugs. To reach thugs, you have to meet them halfway. No thug wants to hear about Malcolm X from some MC who seems soft, even if X was once a thug himself.

Real thugs don't listen to DP-- that's the problem, and as much as I like The Coup, real thugs don't listen to Boots either.

It sucks, because intelligent rappers shouldn't have to stretch it so far to reach their intended audience. But the rap audience is fickle-- one minute you're hot, the next minute someone else is hot. To maintain any longevity, you have to seriously look at who's buying your shit.

If Speech from Arrested Development had gone thug, would he have made an impact? I don't know. All I know is, he would've caught a lot of flak for changing his style. But look what happened to him when he stuck to his original style... where is he now? That second album sank faster than Vanilla Ice's third joint-- some payback for keeping it conscious.

I don't begrudge DP for trying to expand their audience. It's tough to rap about more than just rims and jewelry nowadays.

And the video ending? I don't think it's a cop-out. It's called self-deprecation, and it shows that DP are aware what kind of reaction they are going to get from this.

I still stick by my observations in my OG post-- I see it as a parody of what is considered reality by a lot of rap fans out there. Are they telling people that this is the way to pimp the system? I think they're just echoing what a lot people think pimping the system is.

In my opinion, no one can pimp the system. It's nice to think that the system fucks with everyone except for me, but I know the truth. Even if I think I'm gettting by, I'm not, and I think DP know it too.

As for the song-- I liked the video better without the sound. But that's juts personal taste-- I admire their boldness on the video, for sure.

The thing that always bothered me about dead prez is they don't know what they want to be.Call me a Uncle Tom if ya want. You can talk all this kill whitey and jack white people for coming in a black neighborhood all you want but they are still on a white label. I not knocking them but they still depend on "whitey".So as anti establishment as they claim they are they're still trying to get paid and make money like the rest of us. They way too smart to stoop till the thug level and to use it as ignorant bait to lure teenagers in.These kids are not as dumb as you think but they are impressionable. There are other ways to get you point
across intstead of pure shock value tatics. You can't talk peace in the black community lets rise. Then talk about hurt all white people when you depend on them also. Not all white people are bad just as not all black people are good.Just like that song they had when they was on some pro Bin Laden about those Sept.11 condoning that. Those terroists didn't care what color you were. Dead Prez mean well, but they are going about it in totally the wrong way and contradict themselves.

I don't think this video is any more irresponsible than, say, "Black Steel" by PE, or even "By The Time I Get To Arizona" for that matter.

Definitely disagree with that, I don't see Black Steel as comparable to this song and video at all. First, where Dead Prez are talking about real life situations that their listeners act on everyday, "Black Steel" was firmly planted in the realm of fantasy, right from the beginning with Chuck winding up on death row because he was a draft dodger.

Secondly, his shooting of the female CO is ugly but hardly similar to the violent crimes Dead Prez commit here. Chuck, in Black Steel, has been wrongly put on death row, and commits violent acts in an attempt to escape and save his own life. There is a world of difference between that and assaulting an innocent family that so you can steal their car and use it to blast your new cd, and then beating up some kid and robbing him at gunpoint so you can eat pizza. And then to top it all off, presenting those acts as ways for a "revolutionary" to "pimp the system."

But I'm hoping you are right that this is all a strategy to bring "thugs" into the fold, and they'll balance this out a bit more as they go on, give it more context.. hopefully the rest of the album and their interviews while they promote it will give me a better understanding of where they were coming from with this.

It wont get played on any station other than the internet unless its edited.

And mabye Im missing the point of the song but me being black it makes me uncomfortable watching the video (not the song).

I think it would be acceptable to me if they Deleted the first *scenes* With the "caucassian family" and the "black guys" breaking into their car. It kind of makes them look like savages to me. And the part when the guy and girl are about to have sex. That was a little much only because her "BUTT" was extremely large.

Other than that it was alright. Mabye the cop scene but that wasnt too bad.

As far as the content of the song. I think that this type of hip-hop is becoming obsolete. Only from the simple fact that now in this day and age in america anybody can be successful.

Especially Rappers that represented the Ghetto's or poor black america.

And I put an emphasis on "represented" because they such as

Jay-Z
Ice Cube
Dre
Ice T

(And I can be wrong on what they "represented")

always talked about the "Struggle".

Which they dont experience anymore because they are now Very succesful Business, Music, Movie etc. Moguls or entrepanures.

With these prime exapmle of successful blacks, people are tired of hearing how black people are always held down by the system.

If I offended anyone I apologize. I hope I made a point instead of just babble.

Yes, I agree it is the carjack scene at the beginning of the video that really puts it over the top for me.

You forget the opening part of the song which says "hunger pains got me on some migraine shit, but I'ma maintain..." the song is about poverty leaving a people in desperate situations, which creates the desperate acts of robbing pizza guys, white people, ect. The song is meant to make a correllation between the degredation of class inequity, and how that can lead to extreme acts. Suicide bombing and hijacking planes to crash into buildings is what those in the mideast have to turn to as an alternative to desperate poverty, and I think Dead Prez is making connections in very similar ways. Don't be afraid of what they have to say. Don't think it's unhealthy, or dangerous. It's supposed to make people think, it's supposed to cause a stir. I don't think Stic or M1 have ever really killed a pizza guy. And I think if you believe their lyrics or gonna make kids in the ghetto do the same, you're a bit confused. J-Smoothe, you almost seem to be advocating some sort of censorship! Shame on you!

MIKE.

sex is right they probaly are trying to appeal more to the street type of dudes, but you're right. Thugs in gerneral don't listen to consious groups.

"I'm homeless, jobless, time is hard
about hopeless, but I gotta eat regardless
no family to run to I'm 22
now tell me what the fuck am I supposed to do"

>You really gotta listen to the song.

If you really listen to the song he states the whole homeless thing is just a bs sob story to get welfare money. He says this explicitly shortly after he delivers that line

If the motive is to pull in the "thug" demographic... this will not work.
True thugs will see this as a mockery of real life as seen thru the eyes of someone not in the struggle
I will not promote censorship.. but I would find it very difficult to relate this song to others in a positive light.
BTW.. thugs don't listen to consious rap because of the message not how it is presented. Making a consious song with a video made for thugs only mixes the message for all involved. Its a bold leap... but one in which I dont agree at all with. If you wanna pimp the system you have to agree 1st that you are the system's B$&^%. And No real Thug will ever truly admit to that and change.
That said.. I have to say they did succeed in making me think. I only hope that all others see it the same and think "before" they react.. but honestly I dont think this video will create that type of forethought.

Mike I understand what you are saying but I must disagree. Just about 10-20 years ago NWA was saying the same thing. Snoop, Ice Cube, and all them was talkin about the same thing.

Poverty doesnt lead people to Jihad's and flying airplanes into buildings. Poverty leads to Riots and street violence. Such as what happend in Newark and LA.

The fact is these demographics of people are still there but they have a chance to get out of the ghetto. I dont think its a fact of no one hearing their voice. Dead prez have a "good song" but with so much violence today this video will not be accepted well.

And this is strictly in response to the Video.

Now I know there are people that actually break into cars because I live 20 min away from Newark NJ. Not to stereotype Newark but you cant deny this fact when you park your car to go to church on a sunday and walk out to find your radio missing.

The video itself is disturbing. It's distrubing because the victims of their crimes would normally be other black or brown people. Throw a black family in that minivan I think reaction would be different.

Going after whites specifically is off limits in this country, but committing the same crimes against one another is barely on the radar. Regardless of the race of the individauls assaulted, this vid goes beyond any of the works of previous so-called "conscious" hip hop. PE wouldn't be this irresponsible. Then again, these are different times and getting heard out here in the era of crunk and cotton candy rap is nearly impossible without really turning the amp on your issue to 15.

As far as them pimping the system, their methods are straight criminal. There are more legitimate ways to do so. I wrote about this about a week back. This idea of welfare equalling reparations is a slap in the face to our ancestors. Commiting violent acts against anyone without so much as any real clear agenda, for the purpose of selling a few records, is irresponsible.

PREACH!

I'm not sure if someone already mentioned this above, but one of the problems with the politics of the song is that it collides race and class grievances together willy-nilly. I mean, last time I checked, pizza deliveries dudes were not the kind of folks that you go all Robin Hood off of - they're pretty much part of the working class/service exploited, i.e. the kind of people that a true, "revolutionary" movement would seek to include, not rip-off. Understandably, it's probably easier to jack the pizza guy than it is to rip off The Fed, but it's hard to see how you're going to get the revolution started by fucking over the population of people who might actually be down with you.

I have more to say on RPG but can I just state that politics aside, i'm into how consistent the album sounds. The beats teeter right on the edge of redundancy but I liked that the album tends to ride out on that low end, minimalist sound.

i am white and i found LGF to be full of well expressed ideas and good beats, two very important things when trying to make a good hip-hop disc. that is what attracted me to DP in the first place, a potent social message - like RATM. but RBG has me wondering... what the hell? LGF is more thought out... RBG is just all over the map full of contradictions and offensive racist rhetoric... i shouldn't have to justify to great lengths why i like something... or try and decipher a song... and make excuses... the new disc is bad save for WLAW & Down... that only shine because of great production. these guys preach about being a revolutionary... and a new black panther... they are so off, what they do accomplish on this disc is something akin to a 80's skinhead album... that advocates killing communists (akin to their anti capitalism rants), jews & blacks... get a clue guys. white people aren't evil, our government segregates via a class system predicated on monetary wealth, they pit different people against each other because the GOVERNMENT (THE SYSTEM) is evil (they love the supposed division of the “races”, because it draws attention away from all of the problems the government has created!), and comprised of mostly white men... that doesn't mean that white people aren't outraged and want revolution as well! for 30% of my check i see no reward! VOTE BUSH OUT! we DO live in oppression, and it varies!

and don’t think I am an uneducated white kid, I know fully well that the US was built upon stolen land! AND built via slave labor, totaling 3 trillion dollars!

educate.

I love Dead Prez, i picked up all of their albums except the last one RBG and i doubt i will get it as much as i like these guys, i'm not going to get the album becuase i don't think it is hardcore enough and i'm not really feeling it. let get free, turn off the radio was some hot shit, revolutionary, conscious, sometimes gangsta, poetic. I think they are dope MC and need to get more love and shine. I like the song Hell Yeah and i don't really have such a big problem with the video even though i do understand that it can help with the stereotypes and make white people scared of young black men more then they already are, like the first scene carjacking the white family. It is really just funny, it shouldn't be taken fully seriously, i just hope that at the end of the video when STicman wakes up and speaks another language, i just hope he is actually speaking another language correctly and not just saying anything like racist stereotypes of hollywood that have people mumbling chinese or arabic, that is the problem i have, if he was just mumbling anything passing it off as a true language.

I wish they would make a song about the Palestinian people struggle, they are fighting for the same reason the South Africans fought for. I don't want dead prez to think that Arabs are their enemy because a few Arab guy own some deli's in the black community and exploit the black community, they should make links with the Palestinian and Iraqi people because they are the ones really fighting Uncle Sam and US imperialism, they are the real revolutionaries and the real gangstas who fight their enemy.

Overall, don't hate on dead prez, they are very talented and can still come out with dope material, i like the new album but not enough to buy it, i don't think they are hypocrites but if they were to be serious all the time, people will call them preachy and boring, if they joke around sometimes, people say they are selling out or becoming mainstream, not all of the songs have to be revolutionary, they can switch it up sometimes, even though personally i like the revolutionary anti-capitalist rhymes but i won't hate if they mix it up, Hell Yeah is a hot song but it can offend a lot of white people, who get offended over a lot of dumb petty shit, if that car was a black family being jacked (which is more likely to have happened than a white family) no one would really complain about it as much, black on black crime is accepted, but black on white crime, it is so horrible. Please, leave these brothers alone, there aren't that many good consicous rappers out there, let them experiment and reach their conclusion. Arab/African/Asian Unity, RBG.

I saw the "Hell Yeah" video just now...btw for those who haven't you can watch it on Yahoo...and I thought it was one of the best videos I've seen in a long time. It portrays the effects this so-called "democratic" system has on minorities in this country. It represents the struggle that many people of color go through every single day. To say that you can't relate to what Dead Prez raps about is complete BS. What affects a group of people, in this case people of color, affects the entire population Yes even if you're not a person of color! This type of music and visuals are to open EVERYONE's eyes to the types of horrific situations this government imposes on it's own people. So for those of you strongly opposing these types of messages all I can say is give it a chance. Stic and M1 are two of the most conscious rappers out there right now...if it wasn't for them all we'd be able to listen to at the moment would be songs concentrated on pimps, hoes, and money...most of the mainstream artists out right now have forgotten where they come from and all they went through to get to where they currently are. Money is what they want to obtain, and in accomplishing their goal, they choose to be unaware of what is affecting the very audiences that listen to them.

i don't think this song sets out to endorse this lifestyle, nor is it a parody of reality tv, but a representation, first person look at survival in a system that leaves you hopeless and jobless (where the only person you're playing is yourself.)

the end is interesting - he wakes up from a dream of "streetlife" to a golden paradise. he still fantasies about the street even though he lives in a dreamworld. this could be a jab at the exotification of ghetto life - what our culture capitalizes on.

We can talk about politics all day, but this is really an aesthetic failure - the video just doesn't get its point across.

The problem is that it's unclear whether they're a) trying to represent the harsh reality of the struggle, or b) trying to parody over-the-top gangsta scenarios. If they're trying to represent reality, well, I think it's safe to say they screwed that pooch by making the tone of most of the video so unapolagetic and celebratory (see "Run" for some paranoid, dark, scary contrast). An ending that 'retracts' the rest of the video is a lame tactic and doesn't reverse the tone of the rest of the content.

Parodying gangstas, on the other hand, isn't necessarily all that topical these days, since most rappers, though they drop rhymes about pulling gats, have personas that have more to do with getting crazy paid and flashing big fat rolls of cash. I would love to see DP do a video that took a page from "Whiteboyz," which they appeared in, and do some totally over the top shit, in gold suits and ice grilling the camera. They could appeal to everyone if they made it funny, while still getting a message across about how silly things can get. Just get Danny Hoch to direct, and you'd be golden - the prison scene with Snoop in Whiteboyz is a real classic instance of debunking gangsta mythology. Of course to do that, they'd have to lighten up considerably.

I'm all for being fishers of men, but I think that we're at a moment in hip hop (thanks mostly to Hov, Kanye, and Dave Chapelle) when we have a better chance than anytime since 1992 to have artists really address these issues head on. It's a shame that DP chose the moment to, in my opinion, lose the plot.

The problem is that it's unclear whether they're a) trying to represent the harsh reality of the struggle, or b) trying to parody over-the-top gangsta scenarios. If they're trying to represent reality, well, I think it's safe to say they screwed that pooch by making the tone of most of the video so unapolagetic and celebratory (see "Run" for some paranoid, dark, scary contrast). An ending that 'retracts' the rest of the video is a lame tactic and doesn't reverse the tone of the rest of the content.

Yep, that's pretty much what I was getting at.

i did not see the video. when and what channel does it come on? i don't understand their whole colabaration with jayz

simply put, dead prez's politics have always been faulty. there's no way you can change the system by "pimping" it. if they were revolutionsary AND gangsta then i'd take them a little more seriously.

uh... reading all the replies to the DPZ stance i feel like it s a slap in the face to the push for self-determination. I have no idea where people are from up in here but where i m from what they are talkin bout in "hell yeah" makes a lot of sense. i have homies that have jacked delivery boys who were white in white neighborhoods cuz they were hungry and they didnt wanna jack their own kind (by their own kind i mean poor muthafuckas that r brown and black and not just some white college kid who works as a delivery boy on the westside of town to make a little extra money for A&F shirts and matchin flip flops). My homies have committed credit card fraud to buy their newborn babies a crib cuz their minimum wage jobs dont give them enough to pay the rent, bills and for necessities for a newborn... i know this way of life... fuck that shit... A nigga cant shine off 6.55 like Kanye said.
As far as the violent rhetoric... so what? the world is a violent place. u wanna go out and protest and rally, thats cool, i m out there my damn self for the anti-occupation rallys and shit like that, but if the pigs is comin at me with clubs and tazers imma fight back... imma stay ready... U know, times aint changed, we livin in a war. DPZ are callin out to the niggas like me from the hood. if a muthafucka like me can actually take their message break it down and spread it to the rest of my hood then they have accomplished something... Lets vote Bush out... for what??? so we can have Kerry in??? a man who comes from one of the wealthiest families in New England??? yeah, that muthafucka is gonna change shit for poor brown and black folk in the ghettos. i m sure he s gonna give a fuck. and what s the alternative? exactly. Nader??? muthafucken white "liberal" politicians that dont ever wanna get into race politics... but neways, i m digressin...

U know, DPZ is doin what they gotta do...

I love the video personally. To me the video showed what some people who are very desperate have to do to survive. I didn't take it as an endorsement to do unjust crime.

I agree with FreedomNow. How you gonna win a war peacfully with devils that rape and pilage with impunity? The fuck ya'll smokin? That non violent bullshit was just a stratagy not some shit you live your entire life by. Ya'll peacenik We Are The Worlders kill me with that bullshit. I say Pimp The System any way you can if "your particular situation calls for that".

dead prez, dude. they're still operating within the same schematic that failed in the 60s and 70s. if you pimp the system you're still keeping someone else who needs to get up and out down. and if you cheat on your woman with the next black queen you're keeping the family structure down.

how is gettin welfare when u broke keepin the next person down??? yall seem to forget that welfare still dont mean u livin right, i lived off food stamps and shit like that and my parents still worked. they hustled the system and what? so they could feed, clothe and provide shelter for me... thats pimpin the system. i agree that cheatin on ur partner is wrong and that shit needs to be killed cuz we cant win w/o both womyn and men uniting to build families and consequently communities...

yo Freedom Now...I hear ya about Kerry. but even if it's gonna be a long ass time before race politics come up on a presidential level, people gotta vote democrat to keep shit from getting worse than it already is.

the further left you go, the more support you get for things like civilian oversight boards for police, which probe brutality. more support for public education. better schooling. more support for fair wages and healthcare.

not to mention you might find your ass drafted and getting shot the fuck up in Iraq...the wheels are already in motion.

It amazes me on how so many people are ready to critise Dead Prez. They shouldn't have signed to this company.they are changing their image. well, let me tell you, Dead prez are capable of making their own decisions. If you listen to their first album, you would know that m1 and sticman are really intelligent people, intelligent not only for themselves but black people who have not got the intelligence. Their audience: Black people in the struggle. However when I listen to revolutionary but gangsta it is obvious the core audience has obviously changed. Does it appeal to me? Well I’m a person who doesn't condomn violence unless it's necessary. There are also aspects I find unnecessary. Firstly I recall on the first album a song on the first album called 'be healthy' "I don't eat no meat, no dairy, no sweet." and from what I remember pizza consist of cheese, which is a dairy product. Am i sensing a dose of contradiction? Maybe. On RBG, dead prez talk about robbing a white guy of his pizzas. Let me tell you though with the album RBG the core audience has changed. So therefore lyrics need to be adjusted as well. Can you change the thinking of an individual by saying something he can’t relate to? I don’t think so. By talking about robbing a guy for a pizza makes the lyric more universal. Imagine Dead Prez saying something like “we robbed apples from the apple stores, we stole pears by the pair.” Personally I think all you people should forgot about dead prez’s lyrics and thoughts and concentrate on your own.

Life’s too short.

S.dot

anybody wants to download the video? nonstreaming version

http://www.nyonyo.com/contents/DeadPrez_HellYeah_VidFull_300.wmv

Damn if I don't post this will be gone. I know them personally and they are good brothers and very inteligent as well. I am an artist as well and I find it difficult to put revolutionary ideas into music. It is not an easy thing to do. I think they do a good job of it.

I love their art even when I disagree with their politics. I disagree with the thrust of the song, because I don't think that pimping the system is the correct analysis. That is just a way of getting over, which could and very often does land us in prison.

The system is one which doesn't work in the best interest of working-class people of any 'race' and therefore needs to be desrtroyed, not pimped. I do think they are trying harder to get in tune with the thug audience by making certain concessions, but they are serious revolutionaries, and they are not just rapping to be rapping. They have a plan. Doing what they do, and what I am in the process of doing is not easy at all.

When you rap about drugs and jewelry its easy because everyone understands that and most people want it. It is simple to describe a mentality that is common. It is far more difficult to try to explain that a ruling class exists, which starts wars over oil, builds prisons, and divides the working class using racism and nationalism. This is not something easily accomplished in a song to the average person.

Keep that in mind. I have more to say but I am sleepy. One. Check me out at
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1km1x/

first things first, I'm a revolutionary - in the same sense of the word the DP claims to be. I also happen to be white, though I prefer to identify as a Celt - along ethnic lines rather than racial lines because I see the entire concept of race as oppressive. Celts, Slavs, Jews, Italians, etc. were all considered non-white at various points in this country, and are only considered "white" now because it benefits the (Anglo-Saxon) ruling classes to make the rest of us think we have something in common with them; when the reality is most "white" people have a hell of a lot more in common with black and latino folks then we do with the people who run this country.

And that, frankly, is also my biggest problem with Dead Prez, and this video in particular. Up until this point I could rationalize their lyrics about jacking "crackas" as being a metaphor for opposition to the ruling classes, rather then something to be interpreted litrally. The fact that 9/10'ths of their analysis of the system made sense to me was enough to excuse it.

But you can't have solidarity with someone who would shoot you over your skin color, and that's just how it is. the broke-ass pizza guy making minimum wage is NOT the "oppressor." For the average DP-fan, the odds are he's your neighbor and has most of the same issues with the system you do.

I've lived my whole life as "the white kid" in black and brown neighborhoods. What that means is that when the neighborhood was redlined because the banks are racist, my parents got stuck paying the same inflated interest rates as everyone else, and when PG&E put a power sub-plant a block from the house where I grew up, my family was just as hurt by the pollution as anyone else, I went to the same fucked up leaky-roofed school and studied out of the same outdated texbooks as everyone else; and on down the line. I could keep listing for days. Lacking melanin didn't mean that I was magically transported to a private school or somehow had more money then anyone else.

remember, just 'cuz Condoliza Rice and Colin Powel are nominally black doesn't mean they represent the interests of the majority of black people; and just 'cuz Bush is anglo-saxon doesn't mean he represents the majority of "white" people.

Faking like thugs won't make DP's message relevant to the folks they're trying to reach, and neither will talking shit about white people. They'll be relevant when they cut the bullshit and offer solutions.

money bleaches, but poverty stains / poor black white and brown all wear the same chains/ it's the rich worldwide, holding the reins / and they stay networked together like a massive mainframe / I'm finna pull the plug, build an army out of thugs / run up on 'em in the night and blow this shit up / the great are only great, cuz we're on our knees / and when we stand the fuck up, the whole world'll freeze...
- from "Empires Fall," off "the Black Dog EP."
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COME ON NOW PEOPLE...

The key word to unlocking the mystery of this video is SATIRE.

By no means are they suggesting black people "pimp" the system! They're trying to show how shitty the current Africa-American culture is by highlighting the miserable things a black man or woman must do to break even. Don't believe me? Look at the very end of the video where he wakes up in "paradise" and thinks back to just how fucked up the world he was "dreaming" about really was. Understand what they're trying to do and you'll realize DP never sold out...they're too smart for that.

as long as what any persons has to say or rap or protest is truth, fact, and empowerment.i,m for a stonge future and thats in the youth and god sent baby,s.people we need a solution.do somthing.

Seems very similar to the satire of pink floyd. A very true to life tale though , this happens everywhere , just to break even.

I am a diehard Dead Prez fan and this new album "Revolutionary but Gangsta" is definitley
FORWARD EVER BACKWARDS NEVER!!!!

To actually sit back and read some of the comments left by some of these visitors...disturbs me. I find it very necessary to point out that "Hell Yeah" is one song out of twelve, don't assume you know the direction of the
album simply because you don't get the message from the first release....

HELL YEAH is one of those songs that allows you to VENT all frustrations and REBEL against the system...if you just checking for the production and not checking for the lyrical content your going to be lost..and that's not to say DEAD PREZ isn't bringing it with the production as well, but you really have to pay attention to these brothers they're dropping jewels in every song!

so GO COP the album and learn something!

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Them dudes are racist. I copped their latest, but I'm not ignorant enough to allow myself to be brainwashed without actually meditating on their lyrics. They have some hot joints, but I don't agree with a lot of their views. They sound pretty ignorant to me. You can't fight fire with fire. You don't need to be militant to be organized. You don't need to scare people into accepting your views. They point out a lot of the problems with Amerikkka, but offer very little in the way of solutions. How is this revolutionary? Encouraging kids to not go to school, provoking racial seperation, getting arrested for dumb shxt...Again, how is this revolutionary?

If there IS a message here, it shouldn't be so convoluted.

Oh and to hear how dumb these cats behave during an actual interview, when they aren't given time to really think hard, check out SOHH.com

The Beat 94.5 FM (http://www.thebeat.com/) commercial radio in Vancouver, Canada played the DP'z 'Hell Yeah' original. Might see the 'Hell Yeah' vid on Muchmusic...maybe...but doubt it. A system don't allow itself to self destruct.

NEVA
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^^^Thats from Tupac BTW. A lot of what DP'z is doing comes from Tupac. Tupac was like Malcolm X and DP'z is like Huey Newton and Bobby Seale.

I like T.H.U.G. L.I.F.E. the best though...

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Much love to RBG'z everywhere!

You lot should remmeber that you get poor white people too who are just as oppressed as blacks or browns. By bangin on poor white people all that does is divide the working classes more so that they fight eachother instead of the real enemy: the upper class.

Thats why the US overnment allows groups like the KKK or the 5%ers to exist, so that racial tensions increase and blacks and white kill eachother instead of uniting to FIGHT THE POWER.

If you are poor and oppresed it doesn't matter what colour you are.

DP should remember that there are poor white people AS WELL and they are just as desperate for a revolution as any poor black or brown guy.

www.classwar.com is a link for some english organization about all this. It is everyone, no matter what colour religion or nationality UNITING to fight, not killing eachother which DP seem to be promoting now.

Oh and the video? I believe that is a bit of a parody and obviously catting Gang Tapes. made me laugh and think though. The tracks dope too. It shows gangsta life how it really is. the only problem is that people will misunderstand this video.

they should clear the shit up soon.

Sorry the best class war link is http://www.londonclasswar.org/

UNITE to FIGHT

First things first...good song. Controversial much like Eminem when first landed.
Also very hardhitting video, unnerved me greatly.DP going against real revolutionaries...too much dividing of WC peeps and not enough rhetoric of uniting the oppressed!
The Red Flag! Not the black, not the white, not the brown...RED!

Peace. I first heard the song a few months back in company of the artist. It was the JAY Z version (also the slower/original version) Upon hearing the first verse? i was really into it.
however, i know two people doing 25 to life for murder of a pizza delivery man in East new york brooklyn. one (female) is doing 15, another (fem) is doing 10 (cuz she snitched).
So at the same time i was heartbroken. I KNOW that struggle. I KNOW those actions. I KNOW the consequences. Some of ya'll hardly even know the third verse (stealing from the register)

Me being familiar, I STILL dont advocate it. I Love the video, the female atthe very end? her name is Olly Taal and she is a fabulous sister, whom i respect a lot.I respect her the most out of ANY woman. The white family,,they should have asked for directions. The car jacking was tragic. Cause I dont advocate theft. I see stealing as devilishment. I rather hustle than steal. (we all have a quirk in our morals)
I just hope that folk dont think now that it is revolutionary to rob and steal. If we gonna bang on the system,,then we gonna bang on the system. The only thing that make a bang is a gun,,not a cash register etc. Those brothers wanna Pimp the system. I wish i knew how, but pimps are not made, they are born. I would pimp up some freedom for my fallen (and there are alot).
But dont let dead prez surprise you: they never told you they were different than the average person. They just have unity with certai nprinciples of anti oppression. like stic said ; Half NWA and P.E. HALF of each. NOT ALL. HALF. There's only ONE public enemy. But i can ASSURE you that DP has done more than P.E. (non musically) and on the other tip..NWA? they arent even real. Go support that album.
Paris, and the Coup ar very respected ,but i dotn own they albums cuz i think the beats and flow arent up to par.
Peace
Victorious

ya people got a promblem,this DP video is not telling u to do the same thing cuz it´s says it all in the end.speking walof, a languge spoken in Gambia and senegal.but the video is just showing what a hungry person will do just to end.they don´t have to be pizza eaters to rob a pizza guy.

I'm going to get RBG today, by listening to the new single it shows that contradiction is neccasry and change is good.Music is about expressing how you feel not just what you think people want to hear.This is just an example of being human everyone sometimes have mixed emotions and may feel that another route has to be taken to get a point across.

I belive that deadprez is one of the most righteous groups out here. I'm a black, latino, indian that is strongly against sleeping with our enemies and dead prez is the only group out that represent my views and what I'm
sayin.So until Tupac comes back their best out

who remembers that track called "erase racism" by kool g rap, biz and i think kane??

I think that the "Hell Yeah" concept is one of Dead Prez's best because it looks like its just too real. It pretty much shows what life for poor, young black men can be like if the system shits on them. I'm not saying that you should rob and carjack for the fun of it, but sometimes, a man must do whatever it takes to survive or feed his family. Black men in particular, should watch this video. It will show us that we need to pimp the system ourselves just like the system has been trying to pimp us for 400 years. Not in a viloent way, but in a way that will have a good effect on our families and our communities.

i hope that i am not the only white person offended by the video. y'all need to get your shit straight stop hatin' on dead prez. where's that white pizza boy when the police are terrorizing black people? has he ever lifted a finger to help somebody else. not likely. and you shouldn't get too caught up calling it racism. racism has to do with power and oppression. beating up a pizza boy or not allowing a white kid to play pick up stands in stark contrast to cooperating with a racialized caste system that brutalizes those who are not 'white'. worried about racism? leave dpz alone and worry about the police and the ruling class they protect. when white people begin to do that instead of sitting at home judging dead prez. bang on the goddamn system- face some repression, smell some tear gas, fight cops. then we can begin to talk about solidarity.. believe me i am sick of white people see racism only when white people are the 'victim'. get real. get radical. love to dpz.

sorry ... that first sentence should read NOT OFFENDED.
thx

@riteousblackg. Whos the ememy?... white people?. Theres a difference between fighting against "white America" and just fighting against "any white person". If they wanted to show they were taking astand against the oppression of white people then they should have had a scene where they run up in a record company and hi jack the rich white guys in suits who are pimping black people (such as themselves.... dont be fooled, I doubt Sony/columbia see there "vision")....rather than jacking a white pizza boy that works for minimum wage.

Yo Left Off Che I'm with you dog.
I'm a white Frenchman and that video did not offend me. I aint that stupid.
But y'all a bunch of simplistic class-conscious shit-heads though, or just plain racists. And you'll think your geniuses. Very funny.
White workers are oppressed, sure, but it aint nothin like racial oppression. I aint tryin to tell who's the luckier but how many Whites get beaten up or killed by Black cops ? How many Blacks got killed in Rwanda ? Who gave a care ? One white dude is killed and they all go "Oh my god"... See how African countries mimick white democracy ? Who's exploitin them ? Look at how much class-solidarity French workers showed to Jewish union members in 1940 ? Working-class my fuckin ass. Is that what you gonna say when you get mugged ? "Please I'm a worker too. Go kill an executive!" ? "Lets unite and be equal and help the third-world but dont change my way of life!" Thats all BS.
Songs like "Hell Yeah" is just a way to shout at all that shit, then get peace of mind and think straight. Get that right-thinkin shit out of your eyes and look at the video. You'll see they smilin. Wake up. The pizza-guy aint really dead. He probably had lunch with the crew after the video. Reminded me of black kids so easily scarin the shit out of prejudiced frightened white grandmas. For fun. This is provocation. And all you right-thinkin white fools reacted like you were expected to. Who cares what Bill Reilly my ass thinks. What you sayin ? That if DPZ kiss his ass, he gonna change his views and help the black community. Fuck him. The real Stic and M1 is the ones that sang "Mind Sex", "Fucked Up", "Look Around", read Orwell's "Animal Farm" and made a song of it. Songs like "Happiness" or "Fucked Up" sure dont fit the format but they did them still.
Look on "Get Free Or Die Tryin" what they have to say to all wannabe down people: "Demand reparations for the stolen wealth and freedom of the Black, Red and Brown people". Its easy to bang out for freedom when you got nothin to lose or raise a fist at a concert and shout "Power to the people". Providin real support when you got a cosy situation goin is another thing.
As for the fool who called dpz "terrible rappers"... get some fuckin ears asshole.
I know I'm just sermonizin. So all you haters just shut up and go listen to some RnB. Fuck you.
Much love to dead prez and People Army.
And when y'all comin back to Paris ?

Dead Prez Is Right. If you're young, black, and have a job you work hard at then your a sucker. Start stealing stuff and ripping the store off. That should teach them for hiring a black man.

For revolutionaries Dead Prez sure have a lot of stupid stereotypes in this song. Yeah I agree that the system is completely fucked up, but this song just seems like a step backwards. I really hope that they're being ironic. And yes I saw the end of the video.

To jsmooth995,
Wake up man, this video represented what happens in everyday America.Do you realy think they did not use artistic perspectives to shoot this video.You may feel like it's a massage to kids who are " wanna be ganstas" but all in all it's white boys who try be what they are not all the time. Take a hard look at rock and punk music, they send massages of neo-nazism and white supremecy all the time and do you see all of america standing up in arms about?NO!! so before you point the finger at a black artist for his or her vision of what the system is doing look at all the white boys getting away with murder and they call it free speach.

The sad thing about a lot of the negative responses to this video is, nobody on here has done anything other than re-hash the same arguments I've heard 1000 times. "They're hypocrites because they're on a major label, They're just reinforcing negative black images," etc.

First of all, fuck negative black images. Don't forget where they come from in the first place. Don't forget that they're bullshit, either. Check this quote from an article by Tim Wise:

"According to the Centers for Disease Control, and Department of Health and Human Services, it is your children, and not those of the urban ghetto, who are most likely to use drugs. That's right: white high school students are seven times more likely than blacks to have used cocaine; eight times more likely to have smoked crack; ten times more likely to have used LSD and seven times more likely to have used heroin. In fact, there are more white high school students who have used crystal methamphetamine (the most addictive drug on the streets) than there are black students who smoke cigarettes.

What's more, white youth ages 12-17 are more likely to sell drugs: 34% more likely, in fact than their black counterparts. And it is white youth who are twice as likely to binge drink, and nearly twice as likely as blacks to drive drunk. And white males are twice as likely to bring a weapon to school as are black males.

And yet I would bet a valued body part that there aren't 100 white people in Santee, California, or most any other "nice" community who have ever heard a single one of the statistics above. Even though they were collected by government agencies using these folks' tax money for the purpose. Because the media doesn't report on white dysfunction."

As for signing with major labels... man, you people gotta understand, capitalism is a swamp, and you can't just snap your fingers and break out of it. All of you people saying that they're hypocrites, what gives you the moral authority to say that? What superior ground are you standing on? I highly recommend that everyone go read the lyrics to the Tool song "Hooker with a Penis," right here:

http://www.allthelyrics.com/lyrics/tool/aenima/hooker_with_a_penis/

DP wants to get their message out to as many people as possible, otherwise they wouldn't be making albums. They're saying inflammatory things that need to be said, to get some of these diamond-chain-wearing motherf***ers to wake up and realize who the real bad guy is. And frankly, the real bad guy is white people. The privileged elite. Anyone who wants to read about the utter hegemony that whites have on our culture, and how pervasive racism is, can go here:

http://www.zmag.org/bios/homepage.cfm?authorID=96

This is a multimedia society. If you want to fight a culture war, if you want to bring about real change, you need powerful images. You need the black fist, the gun, the rage. All major societal upheavals--and here I'm talking about land reform and redistribution of resources, not the enactment of affirmative action laws--have cost lives and pain. Violence is a reality of revolution. In most hip hop music and videos, violence and the braggadocio that surrounds it are directed at other blacks. *That* is the real sickness of hip-hop: self-destruction.

However, in this video, all instances of violent and conflict are directed at white people. That in and of itself is profound, and pretty courageous in our modern political climate. With this kind of imagery, DP is showing that you do have that power to fight back, you do have that power to do something, but it has to be directed toward a cause. You have to have a goal in mind.

"Hustling" is something that's familiar to and black person from the street, and this video uses the images of hustling and robbing in a context of reacting against oppression. This is *not* pointless rebellion, it's a complete subversion of the values that we've been indoctrinated with as a culture at large. These are images that provoke fear in a lot of people--not just whites--and we need to collectively look at why that fear is there, and what the privileged groups in this country have to lose.

The end of the video is particularly brilliant, because it's basically saying that *none of this would have ever happened if it wasn't for slavery.* Slavery is directly responsible for the abuse, the cultural robbery, and the legacy of poverty and violence that plague black people--not only in America but around the world.

That means everything--from the hustling to the stealing to the violence--is because of white european imperialism and the inevitable abuse of humanity that occurs at the apex of capitalism. *They are the ones who put us in this position.* This is a fact that must be thoroughly understood before ANY other discussion can be had, and before ANY judgements can be cast.

I'm not totally overlooking personal responsibility. But the fact is, history has stacked the deck against us. Not only that, but the majority of dialogue regarding "racial uplift" in this country has been framed in the language of personal responsibility, and frankly I'm sick of it. We don't gotta take responbility for shit until we've forced the elite and privileged of this country to stand and face what they have done, are doing, and will do to millions of Afrikan descendants.

For a more scholarly look at the oppression of blacks, and the effect that cultural robbery can have on a people, I highly recommend the book "The Debt: What America Owes to Blacks" by Randall Robinson.

For a great deal of essays on the oppressiveness of the state and capitalism in general, I recommend the follwing website:

http://question-everything.mahost.org/

If you read the following article from that site, on Ideological Hegemony, you'll be light years ahead of most political science and communications studies majors:

http://question-everything.mahost.org/Socio-Politics/thoughtcontrol.html

I'm probably not going to come back here to read responses, so anyone that wants to respond can hit me up at matt@evolutionary-systems.com.

No matter what you think, just keep one thing in mind: if you're for the cause, don't lose your purpose in the steps you take to get there. Keep the big picture in mind, and don't let anyone stop you on your way toward improving it in whatever way you can.

Peace is what I want. Violence is what I can bring.

Peace.

DEAD PREZ IS GROUP I LOVE A LOT BECAUSE THEY BRING THE TRUTH IN HIP HOP AND TO THE WORLD, A TRUTH I WAS WAITING FOR TO WAKE ME UP FROM THE BRAINWASHING, AND I LOVE THEIR NEW VIDEO

I like dead prez`s music and i like their latest album. But after watching their video , it wasnt really what i thought they were about. I agree with the above.

i think dead prez are wicked because they arn't all about love and parting. They have talent to bring out reality and even though their video isn't that amazing it has feeling to it. Dead Prez and Shystie are the only people getting there point across all the others do it for fame.

all i can say is BIG UP DEAD PREZ, thanks for given An Aboriginal bro hope n strength.
Black power worldwide, the struggle is all over the world

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We're not saying we shouldn't be working the hard labor jobs (cause somebody's gotta do it). We just feel that the person who builds the house, is worthy enough to live in it, so let us in, mothafuckaz!!

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I was blown away by the Dead Prez video- the brilliance of the audacity. The overweight white people and the banality of their existence contrasts with the situation of the characters DP play in the video. This is a metaphor for AMERICA. Upper middle class white people are sick and bored and boring and overfed off the misery they create in the ever growing ghettoes. I am female and white but I am not really offended by the video at all because I think it's more important to reveal the world for what it is than to create the illusion that it's the way we wish it could be. I also love/hate the ending. I love it because it reminds us of slavery and it's funny and complex (a total mind fuck when he says "Hell Yeah" in English at the end!! Who is he- an African dreaming of America or an American dreaming of Africa? Or is it both?) . But it bothers me as well because...it's too easy in a way as an answer to the plight of Black people in America. I've tried to understand the "well if you'd never taken us out of Africa we'd still be there" story but it never quite makes sense to me. My parents met because of HItler but it doesn't make me glad that he was alive. I'm not sure I am making sense, but...for better or for worse we are all here together now and we have to make a change. The thing that frustrates me is that I don't know how. I do think that the people who are doing something are Dead Prez- because they are raising awareness, and I do think that is something. The problem with Americans is that they are ignorant and naive. They see poor black people and can't think of the things that Dead Prez tells about the real reason so many black people are living in such bad situations. But as groups such as Dead Prez become more popular people like me start thinking.

I am a filmmaker and lately Ive been making some hip hop videos with strong documentary elements which have been doing really well on the film festival circuit. (Anyone out in LA can see my Urban Rhapsody video at the New York Independent Film and Video festival this weekend.) I am dying to do something along the lines of Hell Yeah- any hip hop artists interested can contact me at

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My dream would be to make a video for Dead Prez, though I'll probably have to wait another millenium for them to be ready to have a white chick do their video. I could do something really great for them. Do they have a video for W-4 yet? But if anyone who reads this has a contact....LET ME KNOW- I'll send my reel. I know it's a dream, but...

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first of all do any of these people even know dead prez? They aint saying kill all white people. Thats exactly what media wants you to think. I mean they said Malocolm X was a racist, and by the looks of it half these cats that posted a message up here would have probably agreed. Its 2004 yall, slavery still exists, it hasn't even been 200 years since they "Abolished" it. I think these guys are very necessary today in hiphop. Fuck the police, the judge, and whoever tries to protect the system that has us in a police state. Also Fuck peoples feelings we need truth in order for a revolution to happen.

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I see nothing inherently contraditory in Dead Prez's music or video.

With regards to them being signed to a capitalist white record label, so do you not see the bigger picture? They can reach more people by being signed to one, even if their CDs are being bought by middle class college boys, then the revenue made from sales which would be bigger than an independent release can be used to build their own big truly independent labels to put out thier stuff.

Please check out the mix- tapes by DPZ that were a result of this forward thinking. Capitalise on trendy wannabes and do something revolutinary with the proceeds. That's what I call "pimping the system" on a bigger level.

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