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February 1, 2005UPDATED: Rick Delgado and Todd Lynn Fired, Others Suspended Two Weeks2/2/05 UPDATE: More details on yesterday's firings in NY Newsday, the Daily News, Billboard Today at 1:30 Councilman John Liu will hold a press conference, where he is expected to demand that Emmis give $10 million to Tsunami aid rather than $1 million.
---------- The rumors that Todd Lynn was fired tonight have apparently been confirmed by the activist group Asian Media Watchdog, who report: At about 9 PM on Monday, Lynn called Asian Media Watchdog from his home in Brooklyn saying, "You got your wish man. I'm fired. I'm gone." More details on whether anyone else was fired are expected soon. Based on how the wind is blowing, I'm betting they fired Todd Lynn and Rick Delgado, and let Miss Jones off the hook. Which I would find outrageous, personally. I'll post further details as they come in. Posted by jsmooth995 at February 1, 2005 3:21 PM | TrackBackComments
Good news. Miss Jones and her "Chinknoply" is a BIGOT...She needs to be fired as well. Maybe they need her to to keep the ratings up while she attacks more asians. Posted by: dj respect at January 31, 2005 10:40 PM Tell Miss Jones to go see a dentist. Rascist. Posted by: JayCee at January 31, 2005 10:43 PM I wonder why HOT97 is protecting Miss Jones. Posted by: Ming at January 31, 2005 11:00 PM asian didnt diss ya nigga when ya when krasy n shot up D.C. so why ya dissin' on our families Posted by: 701 ballerz at January 31, 2005 11:11 PM Now, im having a good day. Very good indeed. Don't let up my brothers. Lets keep on the pressure. Don't let anyone get away with this. Posted by: Black Guy from Chicago at January 31, 2005 11:19 PM That's great that they fired Todd Lynn but Miss Jones should have been first!!! We gotta keep putting pressure on them to get rid of her.. Why would they keep her ignorant/racist ass on the radio??? Posted by: ang at January 31, 2005 11:22 PM One small step.... so many more to go... Posted by: Amy at January 31, 2005 11:22 PM now we're getting somewhere!! Posted by: finally at January 31, 2005 11:26 PM i agree. miss jones should be the first to get her ass fire. i bet shes the one that started this whole bullshit in the first place. dont just cut the bad flowers, they needa pull out the bad seed. Posted by: kays at January 31, 2005 11:27 PM Jay, Is it possible to post this on the main page? Thanks! My t-shirt co made some T-Shirts about the Hot 97/Tsunami issue, buy your shirt today! 100% of the profits goes to the UNICEF Tsunami Relief Fund. Please spread the word so we can raise as much money as possible and turn a negative into a positive. Although we are fighting the struggle against HOT 97, we can't forget about the people on the otherside of the world that are fighting a struggle on some whole other next shit. Jin's website has just posted info about the shirts also. The shirts are at: www.MuckItTees.com We have had a great start raising money through these shirts. So thanks to everyone who has supported the cause and donated to the people who really need it. If you cant buy one, tell a friend about the shirts or please make a donation to www.unicefusa.org. Posted by: Mike at January 31, 2005 11:27 PM Can someone post all the Hot 97 email addresses again? We gotta keep emailing them until they fire EVERYONE involved! Posted by: ang at January 31, 2005 11:30 PM miss jones must carry some significant weight at the station (no pun intended)...either that or she's sleeping w. one of the head guys which is of course a possibility Posted by: loretta at January 31, 2005 11:34 PM Do you suppose they are firing him just to see if this will shut us up? Posted by: fubabee at January 31, 2005 11:35 PM Shit Todd, yo wanna talk bout starting shooting asians? If u want me, come n get me! I got 8 shot like my cuz Chia Vang n ill be glad to empty da whole click in yo face! Posted by: Cuz of Chia Vang at January 31, 2005 11:38 PM fubabee, thats why we should keep doing what we've been doing until they fire the people involved with the song. they aren't off the hook until there are more shakeups. keep the letters coming. hit the sponsors. hit them in the pocket. i'm sure emmis is worried shitless about their stocks. Posted by: Aaron at January 31, 2005 11:40 PM What will we do if we hear Miss Jones on air again? Posted by: kiko at January 31, 2005 11:54 PM here ya go... email all of the Emmis top executives and ask them why the hell did they not fire ms. jones? the one who encouraged her listeners to make a game called "chinkopoly." she needs to go... she should have been the first to go! E-mail all of Emmis corp. executives: jsmulyan@emmis.com (ceo) Posted by: kelly at January 31, 2005 11:54 PM FIRE MISS JONES! AND THIS DOESN'T STOP AT HOT 97 EITHER... LET THIS MADNESS BEGIN... TO TAKE OVER THE AIRWAVES... AND BRING IT BACK TO THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE... Posted by: Kuttin Kandi at January 31, 2005 11:55 PM I'm bettin they keeping ms jones cuz they can't find talent to replace the morning show. Bring back Dr Dre and Ed lover! And get rid of the crap that's called ms jones and the morning show. That's why I've moved to Power 105 longtime. Posted by: Jim Browski at February 1, 2005 12:02 AM Thanks for posting those email addresses... I just emailed all of them.. Let's keep the pressure on them to fire Miss Jones! Posted by: ang at February 1, 2005 12:06 AM why is todd lynn the only one to be fired? At least he made an attempt at reconciliation and tried to apologize (a pathetic one). That fat ass bitch jones won't talk to anybody..probably too busy eating. Once she comes back on the air i'm sure she'll get back to trying to start another race war btwn asians and blacks. Fucking nasty ass bitch needs to go down Posted by: why only todd at February 1, 2005 12:07 AM that's why we can't stop now! they fired him in hopes that everyone will back off... we all know that's not good enough! Posted by: ang at February 1, 2005 12:15 AM Help us compile an official list of demands against Hot 97 and Emmis with the #1 demand being: FIRE MISS JONES! If you're in support of this demand, please e-mail Sarabeth at strujillo@asianmediawatchdog.com!! Posted by: loretta at February 1, 2005 12:20 AM good look out. i'm glad that there is some people out there thats on the ball. i've been looking around and no one seems to update you on whats going on. Posted by: henry li at February 1, 2005 12:27 AM Why don't all you f'n hipocrits shut the f' up. I swear I have never seen so much stupidity in all my life. By following your moronic posts "NO ONE IN THE WORLD SHOULD EVER MAKE A JOKE OR LAUGH AT A JOKE IF THAT JOKE MAKES ANY REFERENCE TO RACE, COLOR, RELIGION OR DISABILITY" That means every person who has ever laughed at a fat joke, a retard joke, a black joke, an asian joke or ANY JOKE should lose there job, livelihood and life. Well, I hope if ANY of you ever laugh at a joke at another persons expense (alive or dead) I hope you get cancer, lose your jobs, have no way of making a living and hope you suffer thru a long and painful death. Posted by: Ted at February 1, 2005 12:28 AM Ted- Why did you even bother posting that? It's not about a simple joke that was misunderstood.. Yes, you're right about fat/ retard/ asian jokes... People laugh at those.. The problem is that their joke was about thousands and thousands of people that died and child slavery... Stop wasting your time if you don't agree with what's going on here! Posted by: ang at February 1, 2005 12:31 AM why is todd the only one fired? miss jones is way worse than todd. Posted by: richard at February 1, 2005 12:38 AM Ted- Really ... don't be a fool. You know full well what this outrage is about so please keep quiet if you have nothing intelligent to say. Posted by: BigD at February 1, 2005 12:43 AM A fat joke and a song about the death of thousands of poverty-stricken people. That's totally the same. Miss Jones has a history of hateful comments about Asians. And, racism aside, she's never been funny. She always seemed like a hostile woman. And now she definitely isn't drawing in listeners nor is she getting sponsors. They can keep trying to make it look as if she had nothing to do with the song, but the way she was defending her right to like it to Miss Info ON THE AIR, plus her "superior" comment, plus the "chinkopoly" history she's got... Protesters aren't just going to get tired one day and tune to Miss Jones again. Posted by: Det at February 1, 2005 12:49 AM While firing Todd Lynn is a good start, it will not placate us. They must clean house of everyone involved on the air AND off. Furthermore, we must make sure that this bulls!#t racism they've been foisting on the public does not return to their airwaves. The Star and Buc should be the next focus. Their sad bigoted attempts at humor are no more worthy of the airwaves than the crap we've been hearing on Hot97. New York has to stand up once and for all and let these radio stations know racism and bigotry are not funny. Just play the music and shut the f#!k up! Posted by: Mark Jerome at February 1, 2005 12:56 AM maybe he wasnt fired but was just saying that to get people to stop protesting Posted by: Hmm at February 1, 2005 1:47 AM ted you're an idiot. there's a difference between racial humor and racism. the reason people are angry at hot 97 is not because of poor humor. it's because of racism. don't get me wrong, i frickin' LOVE racial humor. it can be the funniest type of humor if done non maliciously. dave chappelle and south park are examples of good racial humor. how do u make sure your humor isn't malicious? 2) attack everyone. this is how south park and dave chappelle do their thing. equal opportunity racial humor. 3) have it so blatant that it's obviously satire. ie blackpeopleloveus.com. even then some people didn't catch the satire. What was on hot 97 was not racial humor. it was racism. todd lynn being fired is only the first step. todd lynn, miss jones, and the producers that gave the tsunami song their blessing needs to go. someone higher up either sanctioned this or gave it his/her/their blessings. they're equally as responsible. these firings WILL NOT fix racism, but it's a step in the right direction. it will set a precedent and hopefully media outlets will be more careful about spreading racism to the public. note i do NOT want to see racial humor taken out of the picture completely, but usually it's pretty obvious what constitutes racial humor and what constitutes racism. an easy way to tell is to replace the questionable racism with your own race and circumstances. if it offends you, then it's probably racism. Posted by: bc at February 1, 2005 2:11 AM You people are all missing the point. 150,000 slanty-eyed people IS FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!! Posted by: Mike at February 1, 2005 2:15 AM BC, well said. agree. Posted by: Bruce at February 1, 2005 2:19 AM Mike, now that is some funny shit I didn't get. What's so funny about slanty-eyed? There are alotta black girls with slanty eyes too. How are they funny. Can u post a picture of you so i can judge by the way you look? Posted by: Bruce at February 1, 2005 2:21 AM You ignorant pricks seriously should lay off this crap. What's the point in riling up the rest of us who are honestly offended by the song? Why are you taking the time to piss us off? Would you be laughing if you'd had a cousin who'd been in the area? Wouldn't you have felt the same fear that a lot of us felt about our loved ones' well-being? May God forgive you for being a waste of our air. Posted by: Jason Wu at February 1, 2005 2:49 AM it is precisely to set a precedent. in chinese there's a saying that translates "kill one to warn a hundred" which seems absolutely necessary if anything like this is to be prevented in the future. since Lynn put himself in that position, he fucked up and now has to face the consequences. executing a scapegoat restores peace to a society.. and let's not forget what Lynn said on the show. Posted by: Jason at February 1, 2005 2:50 AM Todd Lynn was probably first to get fired cause he spoke out, where as Miss Jones is still keeping her big mouth shut --- if only she learned to do that in the first place, she would have saved herself a whole lotta trouble. And to the people who think this shit if funny, or to Ted, this isn't a joke. Would the death of your family and having your whole life destroyed be funny? If you do, then you got greater issues then this Tsunami song. You need to get a reality check before you can tell us "f'n hipocrits shut the f' up". PS. You spelled HYPOCRITES incorrectly. Maybe you should learn to spell before you call people out for "moronic posts". Posted by: jenblaze at February 1, 2005 3:30 AM The Bigot Jones's gotta go!! Letting Lynn go was a positive step, but Jones was the host of the show at the time and its contect was her responsibility. But she had the gut to play it four times... and she said she didn't know? What about her history of racist comments? It's a wonder that HOT97 tolerated her that long! I think anyone funny and not noisy mena will be so much easier on the ears every morning. Posted by: mark at February 1, 2005 3:59 AM it's fitting how such an adamant miss jones supporter should sound so ignorant, superficial, and unintelligent. i genuinely hope the rest of her supporters are like that too... it appears that for every one politically active and socially conscience person, there are at least ten ignorant people trying to marginalize what equal rights activists have done from the start... but please keep in mind that responding to hate with hate only keeps the cycle going. there's nothing wrong with callin people out for what they are, but don't allow anger to lower yourself down to a level that requires the same petty insults they throw at you. eventually, we should hope to understand why they are that way so we can educate them in a way they'll understand. now That's progress... Posted by: feelin.it at February 1, 2005 4:35 AM Todd Lynn was fired because he spoke out about it and actually tried to tell people what was going on. The station is playing games thinking we'll settle. Posted by: defyenRTE at February 1, 2005 8:45 AM this is excellent news about todd lynn getting fired. he is also represented by steinberg agency. contact them and make sure this racist idiot never works again. now we just gotta keep the pressure on. write to hot 97 and thank them for getting rid of lynn--but they must not stop there. keep up the pressure. all, we are getting somewhere. Posted by: pissedoffindian at February 1, 2005 8:47 AM If they don't let Miss Jones go now they will live to regret it. She has already proven to have a deep rooted hatred towards Asians. Between the "Chinkopoly" incident at her last position, now this, she is going to be gunning for Asians. I used to listen to her when she was on with Star and Buc and trust me, she does not know how to control her temper. Posted by: Chris at February 1, 2005 9:04 AM not being funny, but to all them pricks who are taking the piss outa something so tragic, you really do need to think about how u would feel if this shit was said and something ad happened to a relative of urs or something, jason is well right, to all u c*nts who are even so much as finkin of posting in another racist comment, think about why ur doing it, and ull realise that its just bcoz ur a racist, cold hearted, waste of life c*nt, how would u like it if ur cousin was found or feared dead? to all them people whose been supporting the tsunami chairties and all, i gotta say thanks as i feel that everyone should help out on this one Posted by: col boi at February 1, 2005 9:05 AM yo, i think this news is awesome. but i think it sucks how many people want to trash someone for being racist... by using their gender. oppressions are linked. there's a shit-ton of sexism in this thread about racism. racism is a huge problem that affects all of us (and yes, there's no such thing as a 'racial' joke -- 'race' as a concept is inherently tied to oppression). but sexism is also a huge problem that affects all of us. let's just not shoot ourselves in the feet like that. Posted by: embryo at February 1, 2005 9:49 AM Let me ask the question that I hope all of you are asking BEFORE your posting.. Are you going after Todd Lynn and Miss Jones for being racist or for having the gall to mock thousands of people who died in a natural accident? I ask this because if your focus is on racial issues, your fight is too vauge and will be forgotten. Besides which a poster here pointed out a very real thing... everyone has laughed at a joke that wasn't PC and if it comes from someone that is treating it as equal oppurtunity is even better. Are you telling me that the only way im going to have humour in the am is to laugh at lil kids doing silly things (until they start clamoring for equal rights too). Star and Buc are equal oppurtunity even though they take it a bit too far at times. But to crusade against such a target is senseless. Im not saying don'tgo after everyone involved but at some point you have got to focus on those that are the worst of the lot. Posted by: Belve at February 1, 2005 9:59 AM maybe Belve didnt listen to the song.. since when is it ok to have derogatory comments about a race on public airwaves ok? i dont hear anybody on tv or radio saying the word n*gger... Posted by: paul at February 1, 2005 10:06 AM miss jones should just die. the end Posted by: Ny at February 1, 2005 10:36 AM There is no way they can let miss jones go when STAR and BUC are back on the airwaves over at Power 105.1. That is the reason the Tsunami skit went as far as it did. Star and Buc pose a serious threat to the stations ratings. Wendy Williams already made it neccessary for angie martinez to shift her show so she could keep some of her crowd. I'm sure she isn't happy about the "Gangsta Hour" Wendy has added in the last couple of weeks. My bet is that miss jones will be back and if she does return tune into Star and Buc. The show still has it's edge but it is a lot more thought provoking then miss jones will ever be. If you've listened to her show you know she isn't very bright The continuous airing of the skit at her request proves it.
CHICKEN! Posted by: diggz at February 1, 2005 10:49 AM What Jason Wu said earlier is poignant: it's not just a case of racism. The fact at all that Hot97 chose to make a tragedy into farce is disturbing to say the least. Has entertainment devolved into such a bread and circuses act that they have to stoop to the lowest common denominator just to get ratings? And I think what Belve is saying is that you need to focus on the worst of the lot. Ms. Jones and anyone else invoved have to go, period. But Lynn's already been fired; there's no reason to ostracize him further (as one person has already suggested). Target those who need to be fired and send the message to Hot97 that this sort of behavior will not be tolerated, but let it end there or else this may turn into a witch hunt...and as anyone who has followed history knows, witch hunts never work and have a nasty way of backfiring. Posted by: Sanskrit at February 1, 2005 10:51 AM You're going to point out a typo on a hip hop website.....jenblaze...ARE YOU THAT IGNANT! (I spelled it that way on purpose so you could read it) If I listen to what you idiots say here in posts following mine then let me surmise this for you.... Richard Pryor : Racist (made fun of white people) Oh and let me include all the Jewish jokes (millions exterminated in Nazi Germany) all the African jokes (miilions being exterminated right now) every black joke (millions killed) and lets not forget the Cathloic jokes (priests loves f'n those kids). In Comedy EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING is FAIR GAME! You think just because something hits close to home to you its off limits....sorry...wrong! My family has black and puerto ricans as well as irish and mexican and I laugh at all the jokes. My aunt belongs in a mental institution and guess what....crazy lunatic people jokes are funny. I have fat people in my family and guess what...fat jokes are funny. What needs to STOP is all this political correctness shit! Todd said he was going to "start shootin' asians"...well guess what....I've heard him say he was goin' shoot rappers, blacks, anyone who came after him but it was said in the context of what they were talking about and NOBODY took it seriously.....why??? Because this is an ENTERTAINMENT SHOW. It is the Asian Media Watch and other special interests groups like this you people all complain about but they are the first ones you call when it serves you. I heard the N*gga word on that station all the time...from hosts, guests, artists and in the music. And if the "N" word is okay then "ALL SLANG WORDS SHOULD BE OKAY"! I've heard the words Spic, Cracker, Coon, Jew, Roundeye, Gook (said repeatedly by Miss Info in describing herself) Retard, Bitch and I'm sure countless others on this station and others.....all derogatory but not done with malicous hate and that is the BIG DIFFERENCE! During the Miss Jones/Miss Info fight AT NO TIME DID I HEAR MALICOUS HATE....just an honest argument about how someone felt about someone else. All I heard was HONESTY.....something maybe you people on this board should look into. Posted by: Ted at February 1, 2005 11:00 AM Wouldn't it make sense to replace jones w. someone larger than star & buc ?? Posted by: LS at February 1, 2005 11:04 AM To all the supports, why bother arguing with these idiots on here? We know why we do what we do, they can't sway us with their moronic post. Don't let them get to you. For some odd reason there are people out there who think that their blantly racist comments will deter us from our cause. I've let them get to me enough, I just scroll past their stupidity. IGNORE THEM and they will go away. Posted by: Ming at February 1, 2005 11:10 AM Agreed with Ming, Why fight the little poeple here, when there are so many more bigger issues to deal with?? Posted by: Amy at February 1, 2005 11:26 AM all you heard was honesty?..damn TED you dumber than i thought after your intial posts which is pretty fucking hard to believe. It was honesty up until the point she brought race into the whole mix w/that dumbass comment about Miss Info acting superiorbecause she's asian. I guarantee you if Miss Info said some shit like call her a monkey or something even related to a stereotype like go drink a 40 or eat some chicken wings, you know her asian ass would be fired and crucified. EVERYTHING IS FAIR GAME??..9/11 was fair game? Be real when you say anything is fair game. You mean whatever tragedy doesn't happen to or in America. Everybody but blacks are fair game when it comes to racial insensitivies. We're not talking about just jokes here Ted, I'm talking about the straight up racism that Miss Jones displayed. Were we making jokes when that little preschool black kid shot that white girl a couple years back or other extremely tragic incidents such as that? Now go write another lame ass attempt of a comeback to this post and make yourself seem more ignorant than you already are. Posted by: Ted Blows at February 1, 2005 11:35 AM Shouldn't they fire Miss Jones because of the argument she was having with Info. She's good at saying what she wants to say, but horrible at making sense. Not a very good radio personality. Just my 2 cents. She got mad at Info for not participating and now she's paying for participating. She should definitely be fired if Todd Lynn did because they both had the same roles. Posted by: ceelo at February 1, 2005 11:36 AM You are absolutely right Ceelo in saying if Todd has been fired so should miss jones. Who she really is came out when she had that "discussion" with ms. info. And she is a terrible HOst. Posted by: diggz at February 1, 2005 11:47 AM thanks Ted someone with commom sense. I guess lets fire everyone for making jokes. how about we ban jokes no more jokes!! becauses asains are too sensitive. people get a life losers. Posted by: get over it at February 1, 2005 11:53 AM That's right "ted blows" EVERYTHING IS FAIR GAME! You're probably a dumb twat....and so if anyone has a dumb twat joke I'd love to hear it. And Ceelo, if you argue with someone at work should you be fired? According to your thought process yes. Btw: considering it is Miss Jones' show (called Miss Jones in the Morning) I find it refreshing that she was confident and HONEST enough to have this fight on the air as opposed to just waiting till after the show and firing Miss Info...which IMO should have been done long ago. Posted by: Ted at February 1, 2005 11:53 AM I personally think its ridiculous how "Ted" tries to back up "Miss Jones and her morning show" by giving us examples of comedians. Eddie Murphy who poked fun at Elvis Presley? How long ago did Presley die? This hurts 200,000 times more. People are still seaching for their loved ones. I don't see anything funny in that. If your ancestors were alive, they'd kick you in the ass for thinking child slavery was funny, something they've been fighting agaisnt for so damn long. If everything is so humorous to you, maybe you should just close down this browser and surf elsewhere. We're all speaking our mind, its seems your mind got issues. Posted by: Lynn at February 1, 2005 11:58 AM If they agreed to fire todd, then that means they have admitted that they are guilty. Just remember, recently a professor from Denver was forced to resign because he called the wtc victims nazi's. The tsunami trajedy is on a bigger magnitude than wtc. (200,000 death vs. 5,000 deaths). Posted by: ted is a dumba$$ at February 1, 2005 11:59 AM why would he actually call to say he was fired? is this update real? seems too good to be true. Posted by: slickz at February 1, 2005 12:01 PM If Miss Jones had made a song about the 9/11 tragedy, she would have been fired before her show ended for the day... Why is it that she knew not to touch that one, but the tsunami disaster was okay? This is not "just an Asian thing..." This is about people who continually make racist comments (yes they are racist, it does not matter that they make fun of everyone). Posted by: ang at February 1, 2005 12:04 PM Does anybody know any dumbass twat jokes? Haha..you a fucking nerd Ted. Now go back and think of another one. Posted by: Ted Blows at February 1, 2005 12:10 PM +200K losing their lives is fair game? youre a joke Ted. i hope somebody makes a song about your dead parents or family members so you realize how fucked up the tsunami song was. you have as much cred as jones, NONE AT ALL. Posted by: Aaron at February 1, 2005 12:13 PM paul... Yes I did listen to the song {thanx only to Jay.. since I stopped listening to Hot97 aways back. That is something that the sponsers can justify as comedy.. is it wrong? yes but then again as ted points out (ted dont get happy cause most of your statements are idiotic) other comedic artist have always used race issues without much fuss. I say stay on this group AND be focused on the best way to get them out. If you go after anything else you will soon run into the great and wonderful worlf of "comedic license" side note: I can't spell very well so hold off on using that tactic to attack my POV. Posted by: Belve at February 1, 2005 12:14 PM I gotta say you guys did a great job in the east. Posted by: Moto at February 1, 2005 12:18 PM I don't see why they won't fire her...she's dumb...tarshit jones... Posted by: hana at February 1, 2005 12:27 PM Are you telling me you haven't heard the word ni**er or its good cousin ni**a on the radio or on TV. Shame on you for not listening. The thing that has caused the real impetus for action is the comments about the tsunami vitcims. people here are mainly targeting how they attacked the tsunami tragedy more than the racial slurs used. people are just taking the opportunity to kill 2 birds with one stone. and why not? as for the nigger or nigga word, i've always had a problem with it. its ignorant how some black people think its okay to use it (only by blacks of course). Posted by: Aaron at February 1, 2005 12:28 PM Miss Jones seeks to hide behind the structure of Peace and blessings to Jay Smooth,Kuttin Kandi, Posted by: Deewarjohn at February 1, 2005 12:44 PM Ted, why don't we meet up, so I can call you stupid in person. Then tell you it's a joke. After that, I'll bust your ass. Then tell you it was entertaining. To each their own. We don't find the incident funny. To all you talk shit asian haters... NYC LES, Ctown... Bring it! I'll go Malcolm X on you. Posted by: Ted and his dumbass supporters need to wake up at February 1, 2005 12:53 PM Ted, There is a difference between an ethnic/racial joke and a racist joke. Please tell me you understand what the difference is. There is also a matter of respect, human decency and diginity that we as people must show for the 200,000+ deaths in the Tsunami tragedy and its aftermath. Please tell me you understand this. Let me ask you, do you fell it's "fair game" to joke about 9/11 and the people who perished? If you do, then there's no longer a need to have this discussion with you any further since you are clearly disturbed. Belve, I agree with you for the most part, but I feel this case goes beyond just making fun of an ethnic group. It's true the words ni**er and ni**a are loosely thrown around today, but one needs to understand the context also. Like who is calling whom a ni**a or any other racist slur. I hear black people calling another black person ni**a all the time. Or one Chinese calling another a chink. Is that racist? It's not just the word itself, but how it's used. Another clear example of this is Dave Chappelle's sketch on The Blind White Supremacist (who happens to be black). The "N" word (and "chink")is used all over the place, but the brilliance is that the group that is mocked is the KKK itself. Sadly, the Tsunami song IS racist, but I agree that the bigger picture that we need to concentrate on is the lack of compassion and human decency shown by Hot97 for those that perished and the survivors that loved them. Posted by: AngryLittleAsianMan at February 1, 2005 12:56 PM Getting the world to be aware of what went on behind all of this was great. It got a lot of people moving into action and raised awareness in others. Kudos to all! But don't ruin it by trying to completely destroy everyone involved. For what they did, they need to face the consequences and the stiffest punishment of losing their jobs. Yes. But for this infraction, it doesn't call making sure that someone never earn a livelihood so that they can't contribute positively to the world. They need to straighten out their own karma, and we don't need to taint our own by asking each other to act destructively. Awareness and enlightenment is constructive. Continuing the hate isn't. Posted by: Focus at February 1, 2005 1:00 PM Jay, Is it possible to post this on the main page? Thanks! My t-shirt co made some T-Shirts about the Hot 97/Tsunami issue, buy your shirt today! 100% of the profits goes to the UNICEF Tsunami Relief Fund. Please spread the word so we can raise as much money as possible and turn a negative into a positive. Although we are fighting the struggle against HOT 97, we can't forget about the people on the otherside of the world that are fighting a struggle on some whole other next shit. Jin's website has just posted info about the shirts also. The shirts are at: www.MuckItTees.com We have had a great start raising money through these shirts. So thanks to everyone who has supported the cause and donated to the people who really need it. If you cant buy one, tell a friend about the shirts or please make a donation to www.unicefusa.org. Posted by: Mike at February 1, 2005 1:00 PM I think we can all filter out those that are here to make a change as opposed to those who are just causing a ruckus. Everyone has their own opinions on this matter. Personally speaking, I can't understand why people think it's okay to use racial slurs, even if they think it's okay towards their own race or that it's "accepted slang". I think most of us here know the enormity of this task and are willing to fight for human dignity. So for all the supports out there, keep focused and stay strong. Posted by: fubabee at February 1, 2005 1:13 PM isn't it obvious that ted is really miss jones trying to rally suport for herself? lol Posted by: vg at February 1, 2005 1:48 PM It's not about the racism, TED, it's about the violence that these words instigate and provoke. Children listen to Hot 97, and when radio personalities say it is okay to "start shooting Asians," they are sending negative messages to the audience, thus perpetuates HATE and VIOLENCE. You want to keep seeing young kids killing each other in the streets???? Posted by: Cathy at February 1, 2005 2:03 PM Ted, obviously I'm not as ignorant as you. I'm pointing out a spelling mistake (I highly doubt that was a typo), to someone calling out others for stupid posts. If you’re going to call other people stupid, at least make sure you run your shit through spell check. You call us stupid for voicing out our opinions and outrage ... then aren't you stupid for doing the same in response to our comments? Maybe the real hypocrite in this situation is you. The point is that they not only made racist 'jokes', but they mocked the thousands of people who died. That just isn't funny ... no matter what race, religion, or culture you're from. Posted by: jenblaze at February 1, 2005 2:16 PM It seems like Todd Lynn was the pansy. He had no heart and just followed orders and kissed alot of ass! So being that he is nobody special, he was the first choice of getting fired. Miss Jones as much as she is hated right now, still has a reputation and a industry following in the hop hop community. It seems it would be a tough choice for HOT 97 to let her go. I have to admit that as much as what she did was disgusting and unforgivable and as much as I think she is a bad radio hostess, I still was a fan of her music back in 95. Cmon yall the Ron G produced Posted by: JimmyFinguz at February 1, 2005 2:49 PM By your reasoning Cathy, then most hip hop songs which perpetuate violence, hate and degrade women should be included. See, what you idiots fail to understand is that you can't have it one way without going all the way. That means everyone on this board and others like it should be held to the same level of accountability. I've read many hateful postings asking for the death of the people involved but no one seems to have a problem with that. I have also had the pleasure of reading posts from other people on this board saying they wanted to inflict injury on me because I was exercising MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH....and to those I say..."get cancer and die". Btw....Last i checked there are no child guards on this website to keep them from reading the hateful and violent view points expressed here. I would think that 1 death would be enough but obviously according to you people it needs to be a certain amount for it to be called racist. And I feel the need to point this out too....words don't kill people.....stupid people kill people. this is Ted signing off for now....Blow Ted! Posted by: Ted at February 1, 2005 2:51 PM According to the owner of the NY Radio Message Board a few minutes ago: "I'm hearing Rick Delgado has been fired from Hot 97 (along with Todd Lynn). Apparently there is a meeting today at Emmis with Rick Cummings and Jeff Smulyan with the remainder of the morning show staff. It doesn't appear that anyone else is being fired... but as of the time I'm posting this, the meeting hasn't yet taken place." http://musicradio.computer.net/wwwboard/messages/252143.html Posted by: Jubilee at February 1, 2005 2:59 PM For those of you who think it's a "racist joke"... Explain how it's funny using the word "chink" in that situation? Is it irony because they used a racial slur for a race who wasn't actually involved in said tsunami? That's giving them too much credit. The racial humor Dave Chappelle and South Park uses usually makes fun of stereotypes and intolerance. Randomly adding racial slurs into an offensive songs when that race isn't even involved in the matter sounds like racism to me. Like if I'm talking about suicide bombers isn't kind of dumb to be like "look at that terrorist blow himself up and take out 40 n*ggers! god laughs at those coons!" People would be like "WTF? the majority of the people that died are israelis, us soliders and iraqis!" Posted by: BC at February 1, 2005 3:05 PM Hey, TED... How'z about I make fun of the people jumping off the world trade center, before it collapsed? Maybe I should sing a song about them, to the tune of "We Are The World". Perhaps, for added fun, I should imply throughout the lyrics that not only were their deaths funny, but appropriate and "good". According to Miss Jones' song, God laughs at the people who died in the tsunami, after all, so it must follow that God must have been cackling with glee during 9/11/01, right? Posted by: B.E.Verins at February 1, 2005 4:46 PM Emmis just confirmed that Rick Delgado and Toddy Lynn have been fired. Posted by: CC at February 1, 2005 4:58 PM I just go this message: Asian Media Watch Posted by: Black Guy from chicago at February 1, 2005 5:02 PM A sacrifice meant to get us off the scent. No dice, Emmis, we want Miss Jones off the air. Since there's plenty to do in Indonesia, she can find a job there. I hope she gets used to the hard labor, she might shed a few of those pounds. Posted by: b.e.verins at February 1, 2005 5:04 PM I recieved an email by the FCC after I complained to them about this incident. Its a PDF file fact sheet. Basically, it explains the rules the FFC follow and what critial must be included when making a complaint. This file didn't address the issue of Tsunami Song which I included in my email. Did anyone else got this email by the FCC too? Posted by: From Canada at February 1, 2005 5:13 PM I recieved an email by the FCC after I complained to them about this incident. Its a PDF file fact sheet. Basically, it explains the rules the FFC follow and what critial must be included when making a complaint. This file didn't address the issue of Tsunami Song which I included in my email. Did anyone else got this email by the FCC too? Posted by: From Canada at February 1, 2005 5:14 PM WE WILL NOT REST UNTIL MISS JONES IS FIRED AND THAT IS FINAL!!!!!!!! THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!!! Posted by: T at February 1, 2005 5:16 PM From Canada, Yes I got the same reply from the FCC. What bothers me is if you search their website for "profanity" it gives you a definition and says that like indecency, profanity is prohibited by the law. But they like to ignore that regulation apparently. The only thing they care about is "wardrobe malfunctions". Sad. Posted by: Ming at February 1, 2005 5:20 PM I really don't know if those were Jones's vocals on that but why in that argument with Info did Jones say to Info that I don't see them knocking down your door asking for your vocals now I am guessing that they did ask for Jones's vocals or else she wouldn't be trying to throwing that in Info's face. I just think that they are trying to deny that it was Jones vocals on the song so that we will be more forgiving. Forgiving or not Justice has to prevail and she has to pay yeah with her JOB!! Posted by: T at February 1, 2005 5:25 PM This is good news, obviously, but I'm also a little more concerned about Miss Jones leaving. But you know, the thing is. Humor is humor, right? But don't you use humor to laugh? Isn't it supposed to be funny? That song, to me, was in no way funny. I was galled, indignated, and angry. I'm still angry about it. My anger comes because they joked about a tragedy that affected people around the world; a disaster that led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands. What's funny about that? It's not humorous, at all. And Ted, you used your family as an example as if everyone should be like you. What's the point of bringing in your own personal insensitivity? Not everyone is like you. Your attempt at justification was a little lame. It's like me saying, "I never use the word n*gger, ch*nk, or b*tch, so you shouldn't either!" Posted by: S.Y.C. at February 1, 2005 5:30 PM Emmis Radio and HOT 97 will not tolerate such derogatory and racially insensitive content. This incident in no way reflects the spirit of HOT 97. The station has a long-time and well-known reputation for community involvement and support. That was taken straight from Hot 97's website. If that's true, why wouldn't they fire Miss Jones? She makes derogatory and racially insensitive comments every morning.. In fact, that's what she's known for. That's bullshit that they're keeping her own. Posted by: ang at February 1, 2005 5:37 PM I cannot believe that they are still keeping Miss Jones. She is so unprofessional in her actions and the way she addresses Miss Info. Not to mention that as the leader of the show she could of said that i disagree with the song and shut it down but she did not. She has been rude to Miss info since she started Posted by: mike at February 1, 2005 5:37 PM Jay, Is it possible to post this on the main page? Thanks! My t-shirt co made some T-Shirts about the Hot 97/Tsunami issue, buy your shirt today! 100% of the profits goes to the UNICEF Tsunami Relief Fund. Please spread the word so we can raise as much money as possible and turn a negative into a positive. Although we are fighting the struggle against HOT 97, we can't forget about the people on the otherside of the world that are fighting a struggle on some whole other next shit. Jin's website has just posted info about the shirts also. The shirts are at: www.MuckItTees.com We have had a great start raising money through these shirts. So thanks to everyone who has supported the cause and donated to the people who really need it. If you cant buy one, tell a friend about the shirts or please make a donation to www.unicefusa.org. Posted by: Mike at February 1, 2005 5:37 PM not cool. i'd be more satisfied if Miss Jones was fired.. Posted by: Mia at February 1, 2005 5:40 PM About time someone got fired. I still think miss jones should be fired just as well. She can keep her rude comments to herself because no one wants to hear that type of trash on air. Even if she doesn't quit, she's going to get heated phone calls from a lot of people, so why not just quit now to save yourself some embarrassment and humility from listeners? That's what they get. Posted by: Stacey at February 1, 2005 5:40 PM Sorry I haven't posted your t shirt info, this other stuff has been knocking it out of the way. i'll get it up in one of my next updates. Posted by: Jay Smooth at February 1, 2005 5:49 PM we have to keep fighting until jones gets the boot! Posted by: stillPO at February 1, 2005 5:51 PM I sometimes wish people would be as passionate and outspoken about finding ways to alleviate the suffering caused by the tsunami as they have been about trying to get the Hot97 Morning Show crew fired. Posted by: blacktop at February 1, 2005 6:02 PM For Immediate Release Posted by: Jubilee at February 1, 2005 6:13 PM keep the letters coming people. the others need to be fired also. a million dollars is chump change to them. the fact they gained retarded viewers compensates for it. miss jones and djenvy NEEDS TO BE FIRED. Posted by: Aaron at February 1, 2005 6:21 PM http://www.fmqb.com/article.asp?id=65208 "Delgado was terminated for his role in writing, producing and airing "The Tsunami Song," the highly insensitive parody of the 1985 single "We Are the World." Lynn was let go for making offensive, racially insensitive comments while on the air." Did they not investigate hard enough to hear Miss Jones also made offensive, racially insensitive comments while on the air. Posted by: richard at February 1, 2005 6:33 PM miss jones should be fired.. why is todd lynn the only one fired when BOTH of them added the racist comments? keep the emails going~ Posted by: keliz at February 1, 2005 6:46 PM "Our decision to terminate Mr. Del Gado and Mr. Lynn while suspending the other members of the morning crew sends a message that this type of insensitivity is utterly unacceptable.” What a load of bull. If it's so utterly unacceptable to them, Miss Jones would be fired too. But of course she's not, because they care more about ratings than they do about moral integrity. Posted by: Sarah at February 1, 2005 6:46 PM Bittersweet. At least we've made some progress. But why are they protecting Miss Jones? Unless they're really having a hard time trying to find a replacement for her... Posted by: fubabee at February 1, 2005 6:54 PM I sometimes wish people would be as passionate and outspoken about finding ways to alleviate the suffering caused by the tsunami as they have been about trying to get the Hot97 Morning Show crew fired. posted by: Blacktop i was just thinking the same thing and i couldn't agree more. while i am for justice in this situation and i applaud all of you in your efforts, i look through these comments, and many of them are like 'f* this' and 'f* that', but what is being lost in the mix is the tragedy itself. i'm not trying to discredit any of the efforts that you all have been making, but if you're really passionate about the cause, turn around and donate some money to relief funds, because every little bit will help. Posted by: Josh at February 1, 2005 7:16 PM I'm trying to understand why they would not fire Miss Jones... Then I got to thinking through corporate's eyes... Everyone would be wondering what Miss Jones will say or how she would react on her first day back... I have to admit that I'm curious too. The ratings will go through the roof. Now what to do with Miss Info after this whole ordeal? Obviously the two don't get along and should even more so that she did not get in trouble. How interesting would it be to see Miss Jones and Miss Info as co-hosts? Posted by: Arnold at February 1, 2005 7:22 PM MONEY CANT BUY YOUR WAY OUT!!!! SHAME ON THE PIGS!!!!! Posted by: SHUTDOWN EMMIS & HOT97!! at February 1, 2005 7:56 PM So not good enough: after what Ms. Jones did to Ms. Info, she deserves to be fired as well. And what about Mr. Cummmins and the program manager: they are as irresponsible as Messrs. Delgado and Lynn. Ms. Jones should be out of work for at least a year out of this fiasco. There are plenty of honest, good people looking for work. Posted by: ny white at February 1, 2005 8:04 PM THE HECK!! WHY IS MISS JONES STILL THERE? WHAT ABOUT HER CONSTANT PLAYING OF THE SONG EVEN AFTER THERE WERE COMPLAINTS BY CALLERS? MISS JONES IS A BIGOT!!!! FIRE MISS JONES! DO NOT LISTEN TO HOT 97 ANYMORE TURN YOUR RADIOS OFF. Posted by: DJ RESPECT at February 1, 2005 8:06 PM I highly encourage people to call in to Hot97 if and when Miss Jones comes back on air. Disguise yourself as a listener for Miss Jones return so your call won't be turned away and when you finally get to Miss Jones herself...really let her know what you think. Let's see her get riled up again and see what she will say or do based on the same situation that arised before. Posted by: Mandy at February 1, 2005 8:13 PM Rick & Todd get the brown end of the stick while the station managers get away with it! Airing the parody once was bad enough, but who is responsible for letting it go on for 4 days? Why is it that Miss Jones and the station managers get away without any punishment (do you really think that she won't get her huge salary during her suspension?) while the supporting players take the rap? There is no way that the parody would have gone on the air if Miss Jones was against it. The million dollars Emmis is giving to Tsunami relief efforts is just a payoff to deflect anyone searching for the real criminals. Posted by: Danny at February 1, 2005 8:37 PM WTF Mis Jones need to get her ass fired with the rest of her crew except Miss Info...two week suspension is not enough... Posted by: austin at February 1, 2005 8:50 PM Ted wrote: Clearly you didn't read well enough, or didn't care enough to read the many posts. There have been several calls asking folks to keep their cool and not perpetuate the hate. But it looks like you only read what you want(ed) to read. Anyway, it seems coca-cola is back to sponsoring hot97 again: http://www.hot97.com/contests/kingpin.aspx. Must've got something to do with the statement from Emmis. Seems like business as usual over at hot97. Posted by: erwin at February 1, 2005 8:51 PM In regards to Erwin's comment about Coco-Cola that's actually an ongoing community "service " event. I believe in Coca-Cola's response to complaints they said they would temporarily put out advertisement but would continue to work with Hot 97 on events that would help the community and youth (which is understandable). Posted by: LP at February 1, 2005 8:58 PM Ms. Info should fire Ms. Jones on the air on her first day back, because she's the new program manager. Posted by: ny at February 1, 2005 9:34 PM why is the statement from HOT 97 disappear from the web site? And how come it didnt announce the terminatin of Rich & Todd? Posted by: HHH at February 1, 2005 9:45 PM Suspended?! That racist SHOULD be fired. We are going to protest outside the radio station until that racist is fired. Go here to see more details. The racist should learn a lesson. -_- Posted by: FilipinoCommunity at February 1, 2005 9:45 PM Mike can you stop frickin' posting about the t-shirts? At this point I'm starting to think you're actually making a profit on them or something because you can't stop reposting the same message over and over again. It's not fair for Miss Jones to get off. She deserves to be fired just like Todd. In fact, Todd can probably argue that his racism comes from just playing off of Miss Jones. Miss Jones does NOT deserve to be let off of responsibility. I mean this is her second "incident" at least with Asians. But the first that I know of, The Chinkopoly thing... I can understand. Ghettopoly was created by an Asian person and Miss Jones felt that it was derogatory towards blacks. The fact that she lashed out the way she did was wrong though. I mean the game is GHETTOPOLY, not "N*ggeropoly". It's about ghettolife making fun of blacks, whites, hispanics AND asians. It's not making fun of blacks, it's making fun of the poor. (Look at some of the cards - I see all races portrayed on it, and none of them in a good way). You can argue that since a lot of blacks are poor, there's blacks suffer worse. She had a reason for busting out "Chinkopoly" even though it didn't make it right at least I can understand where she was coming from. But the tsunami? What is this in rebuttal towards? What triggered her playing of this song multiple times? What caused her to lash out at Miss Info specifically targeting her race? It's kinda funny. A lot of people here feel the tsunami mocking is the biggest deal. I actually feel it isn't. Because the tsunami mocking is obviously a bad ploy to get controversy and it CAN be classified as "bad humor" (a completely disresepectful, unfunny, and lousy song). I didn't mind the tsunami song as much purely because deep down inside I don't think they truly believed that the song was funny. I think they knew the song wasn't funny. Where as deep down I think they truly do have a racial bias against Asians. Just my opinion. Posted by: BC at February 1, 2005 10:04 PM KEEP THE FIGHT! DONT LET THE MONEY change the subject! everyone at the so call HOT 97, EMMIS family should be fired! what a shame... Keep on the fight... Posted by: DONT LET THE MONEY change the subject! at February 1, 2005 10:14 PM When is the next protest/rally? Posted by: PissedOff@hot97.com at February 1, 2005 11:20 PM Do you really think u will shut down emmis? Cmon be realistic..hot might suffer for a bit but i think they went thru the worst of the worst..a lot of reparation and restoration is probably going to happen..but here is a tidbit for those of who you A.Dont live in NY Posted by: lmfao at February 1, 2005 11:34 PM FIRE mis joNes!!!!!! Posted by: shameCold97 at February 1, 2005 11:40 PM This isn't over until Miss Jones is on the unemployment line....believe me. Posted by: r. smith at February 2, 2005 12:06 AM It doesn't matter if she wasn't involved in the recording of the song. She was involved in the distribution of the song which can be considered worse than writing it in the first place. If it doesn't get distributed no one hears it. She not only distributed it, she vocally supported it. Why is this necessary? Because it tells DJs that they won't get away with racism on the air. These DJs will stand up to their producers now if the producers tell them "Hey do this. You'll get backlash but we WILL NOT fire you! It's a win-win situation for both of us." The DJ will now say "Whoa man. Did you see what happened to Miss Jones and her crew? They got SCREWED. Hell no." Posted by: BC at February 2, 2005 12:06 AM I cannot believe that that ugly Miss Jones is coming back on the air. Whose baby has she had? Must be screwing someone really high up to keep her job. Racist bitch: you know why Asians are superior? They know who their baby's daddy is. And their baby's dady sticks around. Skank. Posted by: Whose million dollars? at February 2, 2005 12:07 AM i want miss fat azz jone out !!! f her fat ass i hate her fat ass i wanna stomp her fat azz in da face .. i just wanna put the in a choke hold.. sorry i pump on ufc ... ahhhhhhhh fat azz.jone Posted by: kamzushi at February 2, 2005 12:12 AM i bet DR. JEFF is home reading all this and realizing how stupid he had sounded on the show. "I would love to hear the tsunami song. i would!" hahaa.. fucking idiot. yes, YOU, DR. JEFF! don't YOU feel stupid now. and you're not even part of the show, whoever the fuck you are, i KNOW you gotta be feeling STUPID as fuck. Posted by: Jason at February 2, 2005 12:22 AM Blacktop and Josh, I think there has been alot of effort to raise relief funds for Tsunami victims. But the reason why you don't hear about it so much is people tend to listen for bad news more than good news. That's why this stunt by HOT97 seems like it has tons of people clamoring at the doors. I bet you more people are involved with raising relief efforts than are involved with standing against HOT97. You just don't hear about it. Posted by: Ming at February 2, 2005 12:33 AM Let's start a new petition, requiring all those racist hip-hip ignorants to go through SENSITIVITY TRAINING and some EDUCATION--though the retarded monkeys that they are, that won't be much use. ANYWAY, REQUIRE THOSE RACISTS TO: Posted by: start NEW PETITION at February 2, 2005 12:47 AM Guys, keep up the fight. I applaud all of you who stood up and unite to fight and be outspoken on this racial issue by COLD 97. Keep it together and don't let them make this an asian vs black issue. That's what the brains behind emmis is trying to eventually protray. Let's do it in a civil manner and teach them how it should be done. Voices will be heard when people unite. And Mike, please stop the posting of your tshirt sale. Also, i'm one of those in NYC who just got laid off and I donated a good some to the Tsunami recovery effort. So there are a lot of ppl out there who did donate their time or Money to this tragedy. The COLD97 mockery hit a nerve that why so many ppl are protesting against Fat Jones and COLD97. Remember sex/violence/gangsta sells. That's mainly what COLD97 is trying to do. Posted by: Bruce at February 2, 2005 12:52 AM ASIAN DJ SAYS TO BLACK DJ, "YOU THINK YOU'RE BETTER THAN ME BECAUSE YOU'RE BLACK" AND REPEATEDLY PLAYS THE "WHITE PEOPLE SAY THAT AIDS ORIGINATED IN AFRICA SONG" AND KEEPS HER JOB. Posted by: DOUBLE STANDARD at February 2, 2005 12:54 AM To: Start New Petition Please don't get over your head. As an asian myself..what you just wrote was some racist shit and it's offensive. Alot of it is true but u shouldn't compare it with being chinese. It just brings more fire.. Chill out man. Posted by: bruce at February 2, 2005 12:55 AM That was so not necessary what BC said about Mike and his T-shirt posts. come on, the guy's making an effort to help.. sure beats your long ass post on absolutely nothing new OR useful.. now you can stand in the corner with Dr. Jeff and do some reflecting of your own.. feel stupid? morons.. Posted by: Jason at February 2, 2005 12:59 AM That miss jones bitch isn't being fire, WTF! Now this is really pissing me off! People, keep the pressure on Hot97! Posted by: Scott at February 2, 2005 1:00 AM Dude! all u had to do was post A msg. Was all that spam necessary? Speak less and get your point across. Posted by: Bruce at February 2, 2005 1:22 AM Yo, im going to donate a lot of my funds to the tsunami effort. This is probably my last time reading these lame repsonses. Its funny, Ms. Jones and Todd are two racists that broadcasted their racism to the ENTIRE country on a racist radio station. Yet, on this matter where all races should be sticking together... There has been many asians broadcasting their racist views to the ENTIRE world on the internet. I am beginning to wonder how I can tell the difference between who wants peace and who wants to just have a reason to shout racial slurs. WOW, ha ha ha ha, your so great. That sounds like the phrase everyone wants to hear. There I said it.. I don't mean it... But, lets at least TRY to be better than Jones and Todd... As an African American, I am not going to stoop to such rediculous levels. Stop calling me nigger. I am not going to shout racial slurs back. Anyways, I am done with comments on this issue that has made people more racist than Todd and Jones. My girlfriend is asian. I have a lot of friends that are asian. Still, I love and respect all people. Stop juggling and throwing the bull sh*t. Seriously.... Posted by: Black Guy From Chicago at February 2, 2005 1:30 AM ming, i appreciate your feedback and i agree with you wholeheartedly, and black guy from chicago, that is exactly what i was thinking. i am asian myself, and i don't want to come across as one of those people that come on here just to talk trash to the supporters, but some of you are getting way out of hand with your own racial slurs here as well. let's be bigger people than those that have done wrong and obstain from that kind of language. it doesn't do much good to cry racism, and then turn around and start calling miss jones and todd lynn names and racial slurs as well. like i said before, if you want to help and haven't done so already, please volunteer for or donate to any relief fund, even $5 will help somebody over there. trust me, down the road, you'll feel MUCH better about contributing than about finding reasons to cuss and yell about a dj whose reputation has gone down the drain already. Posted by: Josh at February 2, 2005 1:56 AM Oh yeah, There are some people that are rationalizing this whole issue. There is not much to rationalize. 200,000+ people die. They made a song about it. They are dealing with the consequences of their actions. Only the most ignorant would say that their actions were ok. They deserve what they are getting. Anyways, take it easy. Posted by: Black guy from Chicago at February 2, 2005 1:59 AM THIS IS F*CKING RIDICULOUS!!!!!! IF ANYTHING, MISS JONES SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE FIRST ONE TO GET FIRED!!!!! PLEASE keep writing those emails and keep this fight going strong. This is an extreme injustice that "WE", as humanity have to rectify. Racisim, ignorance and the blatent disregard for human life of this calibre should not been tolerated. I am digusted with Emmis's course of action. Posted by: Brian from Canada at February 2, 2005 2:19 AM Ted, With that in mind, you guys can return the favors too. By respecting my freedom of speech. The little fact, somebody probably going to lose their job shouldn't matter. You have your freedom of speech and I have mine. We're all happy, right?! Posted by: Rob Haupt at February 2, 2005 3:22 AM JONES SHOULD GET FIRED ALSO! Posted by: steve at February 2, 2005 4:13 AM This insistence on Free Speech is in this case too simplistic, i think. It's my guess that most of the human beings that were mocked at and made fun of in that horrendous song do NOT, and probably never will, enjoy that same privillege that we ALL seem to enjoy here. We must give the 1000s of orphans and torn families, whose voices will never be heard, a VOICE! For me that's reason enough to support action against hot97. hot97 no more music by the suckers! Posted by: erwin at February 2, 2005 4:37 AM please keep in mind that responding to hate with hate only keeps the cycle going. there's nothing wrong with callin people out for what they are, but don't allow anger to lower yourself down to a level that requires the same petty insults they throw at you. eventually, we should hope to understand why they are that way so we can educate them in a way they'll understand... so in an effort to educate... if you're going to talk about the FREEDOM OF SPEECH, then you have to take into account that it's only ONE COMPONENT of the 1st amendment which has a larger emphasis on protecting those who held opposing religious views as well as protection from intervention from the GOVERNMENT as it was during the time of its establishment. NOWHERE does it explicity protect the use of incidiary racist comments and IN FACT The Supreme Court has also recognized that the government may prohibit some speech that may cause a breach of the peace or cause violence. It does not afford members of the media any special rights or privileges not afforded to citizens in general. WHICH IS WHY this can be and is such a big deal, just look at how many people, not to mention political leaders, are involved now. i say the more people the better because there are so many aspects to this issue and we need people to fight hate at every single level- on this board, at HOT 97, big corporations, the government... cause if we don't do it then WHO will? to ME hiphop has a lot to do with EMPOWERMENT and EDUCATION (this IS still a hiphop site right?) so mad props to (almost) EVERYBODY, especially jay smooth. keep doin what you're doin yall... Posted by: feelin.it at February 2, 2005 5:30 AM Hey BLACK GUY FROM CHICAGO: I like your attitude and the fact that you seem to be without racial biases. But seriously though, dude, if you have an Asian girlfriend, you must get more racist shit from black women (who HATE Asian women, and especially Asian women who are with Black men). Look at the racial slurs Wayne Brady's Asian wife has to suffer from black women. Listen, I have had more racial slurs hurled at me from black men and women than from any other race. I live in a hispanic neighbourhood and I work with white people. I have been treated wonderfully and like an equal by whites. Only when I come across a black cashier or a black attendant in the subway or something do I face racism in this country. Deal with it, Black Guy, your people are serious racists. They are nasty to my Asian friends. I have met only two black people in my years in this country who have been nice. Blacks are okay with whites and hispanics, but boy do they hate the Asians. Also, do you hear that? That's the silence from the black community in response to this Miss Jones incident. Where's Al Sharpton? Or Jesse James? You think there would be this silence from them if a black had been so viciously insulted? Only thing i have to say is this: Blacks have picked on South East Asians (that means Chinese, Vietnamese and Korean, for you ignorant ghetto-scum), and they have kept relatively quiet because culturally they are a quiet race of people. But now blacks are picking on Indian Asians (and I am one of them)--and they don't know what they are messing with. We Indians don't take things laying down, trust me. We kicked the British off our lands. We have fought three wars over Kashmir. We deal with the Taliban as out neighbours, okay. We don't take shit. We kick ass. Miss Jones and others better realise that there is a new sheriff in town. You fuck with Indian Asians, you will know why Indian culture is the oldest civilization in the world. We don't have 30,000 years of culture so that we can get shit talked about us by some ignorant, uneducated, fugly, pond-scum, with culture that goes back to, what, 1980? Hip-hop. That's all the culture you got? Come to India, Miss Jones, and I will show you culture. My hats off to you Black Guy From Chicago--maybe you can work on educating your race and teaching them some tolerance. Posted by: Asian from West Coast at February 2, 2005 6:56 AM Asian from West Coast, Posted by: erwin at February 2, 2005 7:20 AM India is still part of the British Commonwealth, so you haven't distanced yourself from your "oppressors" at all. Indian culture is not the oldest in the world, get your fact right. Stick to the topic, which is about racism not your racist views Posted by: Leon at February 2, 2005 8:07 AM I hope everyone uses as much passion to write those letters to the sponsors and FCC..... All these posts are great !! It lets us voice our opinions to be heard. To say the least, this war is not over by far. The termination of Delgado and Lynn is nice. The million dollar donation is lovely, but also not a punishment on any level. HATE97 has to take responsibilty by paying a FINE that is NOT tax deductible. HATE 97 has to lose Jones who played the song repeatedly, and has AGAIN made an asian racial slur. Does she NOT learn? Obviously NOT with people like HATE 97 to back her up. I opt NOT to listen to that station when she comes back on air, in fact I have not even gone to their webiste or even tuned in since this incident. Why support the act?? Keep up the HEAT on the posnsors and FCC.... we have to get it through to them this this bone was just not BIG enough.... Posted by: Amy at February 2, 2005 8:21 AM I think people should boycott Sprint, who sponsored the segment where Miss Info went at Miss Jones. I think you are missing the boat on one aspect though. Yes, I want to see Miss Jones off the air, but let's think. Why isn't she? Probably because she still has a steady fan base in New York. What does that tell us? That this is not merely the problem of a few individuals. It is a cultural problem. Asian Pacific Islanders and Middle Easterners to a certain extent are not "respected" under the umbrella of political correctness. Many people are misinformed about our cultures and continue to use derogatory adjectives and names such as Chinaman, oriental, etc. I just heard Tommy Heinsohn during a Celtics broadcast (Houston at Boston) the other day (Asian Awareness night of course) say about an Asian fan at the Fleet Center, "give that fan an egg roll." Would you say to an African-American fan, "give that fan a slice of watermelon!" There is even a cheese steak joint in Philly named, Chink's Steaks. Yet, if anyone is to blame for the disrespect of Asian-Americans, it is Asian-Americans. Many of our ancestors came here with the "gold mountain" mindset and some still plan to "move back" someday and have not vigorously built a political foundation in America. If Asian Americans are to be respected, it starts with ourselves. We can not expect others to educate themselves about our culture and people. Asian Americans must make their voices heard. Also, Asian from West Coast, chill out, man. I know you're frustrated, but take a look at your post. You fell victim to 1)stereotyping 2)hate motivation 3) logical fallacies and 4)incorrect historical representation. If any culture is the oldest, it is AFRICAN culture. Peep the Out of Africa theory when you get a chance. It is the undisputed heavy weight champion of evolutionary theory. Comparing which ethnic groups is more racist does nothing, but spur the creation of more hate, which leads to more dead people of all colors. When you stop to think that chimpanzees and humans have 94.6% to 99.4% of the same genetic material, it reminds us how silly it is to argue over our level of tan. I am not trying to say I am innocent either. I told a really shitty tsunami joke a few weeks back at blockbuster because I just didn't think before I spoke. Everyone says dumb shit, but it doesn't mean we can't try to learn from our mistakes and start accepting other people culturally. By the way, I just came across this site the other day Jay Smooth and it's the shit. Posted by: ironchef24 at February 2, 2005 8:26 AM all the people gettin offended by this are the racists, if you cant laugh at sh8t like this then you got the problem, it was pretty fukin funny leave the man alone. You cant really bleieve he wants to kill all asians do you! your the one trying to make a name off of his mistake Posted by: stopit at February 2, 2005 8:41 AM KEEP THE EMAILS, PHONE CALLS & LETTERS GOING! HOT 97 & EMMISS COMM. Let's get Miss Jones off the air as needed...... Posted by: s at February 2, 2005 8:47 AM Miss Jones is as guilty of being a racist as anyone else on the show and must be fired also. Posted by: Frank at February 2, 2005 8:57 AM another thing Asian guy from the West coast......China is not a Southeastern Asian country; nor are Korea, China, Vietnam, etc "one race" as you claimed.......Chinese people aren't even one race.....there are thousands of ethnic groups within China.......not tryin to pick a fight with you, but you should look at yourself before antagonizing African-Americans as a group and spreading inaccurate information about people and making broad generalizations.... Posted by: ironchef24 at February 2, 2005 9:18 AM Great Job here of Chronicling this embarassing disaster of a morning show. Please keep up the good work, you have earned the respect of many. Posted by: vreal at February 2, 2005 9:19 AM Please note that Freedom of Speech as guaranteed in our constitution protects us from criminal prosecution for expressing our views. The 1st amendment does NOT protect us from suffering negative consequences for this expression. I am a nurse. If I cursed out one of my patients, I would not go to jail. However, the minute my supervisor heard of my "expression" I would be fired. Claiming free speech would change nothing. The same goes for Miss Jones or any other employee of any other entity. The first amendment does not protect you from being fired, it does not protect you from public or private censure, and it is not absolute. Slander, libel, threats, and other "incendiary" statements (yelling "fire" in a crowded theater for a laugh), are not protected free speech. Free speech is something we cherish, but it can and often does come with a price. We need to accept the responsibility that comes with this privelege as well as the benefits of it. We are all personally accountable for our words. Freedom of speech does not mean anything goes. Posted by: SMB at February 2, 2005 9:31 AM I said I was done answering these comments. However, I will address somethings. After this, I am just going to focus on donating money and keeping up with the headlines. This is feeling more and more like a battle to place shame. Hey, Asian from west coast, I would like to respond to some of the stuff that you said. For starters, I don't think racism is something that I shouldn't feel guilty for. I have learned that all races have racists. Due to my dating preferences, I have experienced racism from several different races. (Even, asian) A lot of people are afraid that I will destroy some blood line or crap like that. I feel sorry for Wayne Brady and his wife. Some people don't like successful people. In fact, people love to take jabs at the rich. The let their jealousy turn to hatred and racism. Then, there are others that are plain racists. All of that is wrong. However, I have also been shown a lot of love as well. In fact, I have been lucky to have friends in every race that I am very cool with. So, I don't have some set notion that a "race" of people are mostly racist. I am sorry that you were mistreated by some idiots. However, saying that I should "face it" and "my people are serious racists" does not help nor prove anything. I don't believe in the term "my people." I don't wake up in the morning for "my people." I don't get dressed for "my people." I don't eat, sleep, drink and think for "my people." Most of all, they are not "my people." They are not in my possession. I don't own anyone. You say it like I belong to some organization of conspiracy. Why can't white, latino, asian... be my people also? To be honest, I don't see myself stuck with a certain race or class. I love all people equally. I like the fact that I can go and chill with anyone of any color. I can say this, I am not the only african american that is not a racist. In fact, my cousins are not racists and their cousins are not racist. I could go on forever. As for Jesse Jackson and other political people... All im going to say is, I am not a big fan of politics. I am not going to attack politics, but im not a big fan. Politicians have so much dirt under the table that it isn't funny. The systems of this country have become vile. Everything is corporate and about money. Hot 97 is proof of that. Yet, don't hate on a race because, some politician doesn't speak out. Personally, the real voice belongs to the people. By fighting together, we have proved that. For the record, I have respect for all races, especially Idian Asians. Still, I think people should be civilized about this whole matter. Putting down another race is wrong man. America used to be a country where minorities used to fight an entire NATION instead of ignorant show hosts. Now, times have changed. The whole nation is not comprised of one set EVIL RACE. We have to learn to respect each other not on behalf of "our people", but for the pursual(sp) of the right thing. Honestly, if you are not hate filled, I got love for you. I will probably take a bullet for you too. Why can't others be like this? Don't let negative treatment in the past give you a negative prejudice for certain group of people. Anyways, im done. I am not going to comment on this issue anymore. I am going to work hard so I can donate funds. Peace out brothers. Posted by: Black Guy from Chicago at February 2, 2005 9:33 AM who cares if they fired todd and this delgado guy? i mean, thats like giving me half a steak. give me the whole thing and get rid of them all. Posted by: munni at February 2, 2005 9:51 AM should^ Posted by: Black Guy from Chicago at February 2, 2005 9:58 AM Very well spoken Black Guy from Chicago. Thanks! Posted by: erwin at February 2, 2005 10:08 AM BGfC. Good words. Posted by: White Guy from Detroit at February 2, 2005 10:11 AM when are they gonna fire this idiot miss jones. her argument over the air with miss info was typical "niggers arguing in public again" stuff. this whole staff was stupid and there is no excuse any of them can say. please give me a break, and that im conversation with todd lynn, maybe its a good thing he got fired, judging by the way he spells and sounds maybe this is a good time for him to go back to school and learn how to read and write....And since he said I think you all were a bunch of dumbass niggers!!! Posted by: rick at February 2, 2005 10:21 AM Emmis is obviously keeping Miss Jones on the air for financial/ratings reasons. Miss Jones IS the show. How would they replace her? This is the easy way out for them. They won't have to create, produce, promote a new show. They know the Miss Jone's show generates ratings and revenue. The publicity they recieved over the last few weeks will help the Miss Jones Show. The only way to prevent Emmis from benefiting from this fiasco is to fire Miss Jones and force them to come up with a new morning show. I urge everyone to keep up the fight until she's gone. Don't let them get off this easy. Posted by: scaremongering at February 2, 2005 10:58 AM That was Ms. Jones singing anyone who has heard her music or voice knows its her, this Asst. is taking the heat for singing not Ms. Jones, think about it why not fire the asst? It's a smoke sceen, Emmis FEARS Star and Buc wild so much that their present actions to keep Ms. Jones are obvious, which says its about the ratings and money. I take my hat off to the Asian people for being relentless in their pursuit. If anyone has John Liu's address please post it Posted by: sierra at February 2, 2005 11:05 AM Jay, Is it possible to post this on the main page? Thanks! My t-shirt co made some T-Shirts about the Hot 97/Tsunami issue, buy your shirt today! 100% of the profits goes to the UNICEF Tsunami Relief Fund. Please spread the word so we can raise as much money as possible and turn a negative into a positive. Although we are fighting the struggle against HOT 97, we can't forget about the people on the otherside of the world that are fighting a struggle on some whole other next shit. Jin's website has just posted info about the shirts also. The shirts are at: www.MuckItTees.com We have had a great start raising money through these shirts. So thanks to everyone who has supported the cause and donated to the people who really need it. If you cant buy one, tell a friend about the shirts or please make a donation to www.unicefusa.org. Posted by: Mike at February 2, 2005 11:28 AM Sierra, Do you mean John Liu's postal address? Are you in the NYC area? E-mail me at sun5beam7@yahoo.com if you are. Thanks! Posted by: LS at February 2, 2005 11:34 AM Black Guy from Chicago. I give you props. Please no more hatin. Posted by: Asian Gal from Dallas at February 2, 2005 11:40 AM Although Im disappointed that the radio station didnt take more severe action with Miss Jones, I'm glad that Emmis took a more contributive effort by donating 1 mill to the tsunami relief. I know that money cant buy everything, especially racism, but I feel at least something good came out of it. Thats 1 mill more to help rebuilding the economy there. Its going to take a few years before those countries can stand on their own again. The red cross estimates about 400mill to handle short term and long term issues. Reading these posts, we're bickering with each other more. Nothing good will come out of it. Just to menton,I'm really proud that we all came together during this time. We voice our opinions- and they were heard. Keep it up! Posted by: D at February 2, 2005 11:45 AM "We Indians don't take things laying down, trust me." Which is why: - Star & Bucwild have gone on to a BETTER and more lucrative radio deal since the "rat eater" comments. LMAO AfWC there is an influx of educated South Asians in America sure (and I do think that's a good thing), but "your people" have minimal representation in the social sciences. How are you gonna represent for yourselves when nobody seeks to understand the issues? Oh I get it you fight back by boasting that your son's gonna be a doctor when he's only 5 yrs old. Ghandi and Mother Theresa are rolling in their graves. BGfC you should pity this guy he speaks British English even though he's so proud his people kicked out the oppressor. He hates your race because he associates darker skin with being lower on the "caste system." This is the result of the rich history that he claims. Posted by: E at February 2, 2005 11:48 AM oops, its Gandhi right. Sorry. Posted by: E at February 2, 2005 11:50 AM Miss jones must be pissed off her salary was sent to Asia, for I'm sure she didn't want to help, she was glad people died. Posted by: kaf at February 2, 2005 11:53 AM I'm hoping that Emmis is only going to keep Miss Jones until they find a replacement, since they've posted that job listing on their website for a new "Morning show host". Hopefully.. Posted by: Ming at February 2, 2005 11:59 AM get over it Hot 97 blazining Hip hop and r&b son! Posted by: asiancrybabies at February 2, 2005 12:28 PM Ming, That job post has been off the Emmis corporate web site. And I read this on Emmis's corp. web site which makes me wanna puke...
Posted by: HHH at February 2, 2005 1:07 PM "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." - MLK Jr. How sadly ironic that this skit first aired the day after MLK Day. It is truly sad how out-of-touch the hip-hop generation has now become from their Civil Rights Era forefathers. I guess they think they've "made it" now? Well, this has been the most vile, despicable act of public racism I have ever heard in over 3 decades on this planet. I am truly shocked at how anyone could find this even remotely acceptable enough to play on a top radio station with 10 million listeners - most of them our young & impressionable FUTURE! This is the last straw on the camel's back. When you insult a group so deeply, you leave them no choice but to protest if they have even the slightest shread of self-respect. So, OFF WITH THEIR HEADS, axe 'em and let them get rehired by the KKK! H*ll, even the KKK probably don't want 'em. FVCK YOU Miss TARSHA NICOLE JONES, Todd Lynn & Rick Delgado!!! You fvck with Asians, you fvck yourselves! STOP THE HATE, NOW! Posted by: Dzay at February 2, 2005 1:16 PM Karma is a mutha! Todd Lynn should have thought about it before making fun of the mentally retarded kid that was found dead up in Harlem at the bottom of a laundry chute. Now everybody is laughing at him. I told you yesterday that miss jones wasn't going anywhere. It took not97 years to replace Star and Bucwild and all they came up with was miss jones. You reap what you sow! I suppose all publicity isn't good, huh? Posted by: diggz at February 2, 2005 1:33 PM Mis Jones has gots to go!! The sh!t that she said to miss info was just as bad as the song itself. There's no room for her ignorance and misconceptions of Asians makes me wanna puke.. Posted by: Ray at February 2, 2005 1:43 PM Miss. Jones never said she was sorry about what she said to Miss. Info. She has only apologized (sort of) for her "poor judgement" for playing the song. For that she should get fired! Posted by: HHH at February 2, 2005 1:48 PM Thanks for all of the updates! I still feel that the firings of Todd Lynn and Rick Delgado are not enough! A two week suspension for Miss Jones is NOTHING compared to the damage she has done. She has a history of promoting Hate (Chinkopoly) and should be FIRED!! Please continue to write to Emmis Corp! They're waiting for all the excitement to die down, but let's be vigilant in our demands! Posted by: Kelly at February 2, 2005 2:03 PM I hope when all this dies down, that many of you will have taken the time to LEARN about things that you previously had not. As Americans, we take so many things for granted, and we expect so much of others when we can't even lift ourselves up out of our own ignorance. We take our freedom of speech for granted. We don't appreciate the privilege that it is to be living in an open and free society. It is February. It is Black History Month. It is the Chinese New Year. We should be celebrating our differences, our achievements and APPRECIATING the fact that we're offered so many opportunities for our voices to be heard. How many of you register to vote? How many of you donated your hard earned money to relief agencies? How many of you volunteer time to mentor children in underprivileged neighborhoods? Yet here (some of) you are, trying to promote hatred instead of finding a solution to how we can ALL BETTER OURSELVES FROM THIS. How we can LEARN FROM THIS. Should we not try to come to some solution? Is it that hard for this so-called educated society to find some sort of common ground so that we can move beyond this? I ask ALL OF YOU to stop with the mud-slinging and FOCUS on HOW we can move forward from here. We still live in a civilized society don't we? Thanks. Posted by: fubabee at February 2, 2005 2:14 PM HOT 97 WILL NOT FIRE MISS JONES BECAUSE STAR AND BUCWILD ARE BACK IN TOWN. THEY WOULD RATHER LOSE RESPECT AND MONEY THAN LOSE RATINGS TO THEM. Posted by: Latin1 at February 2, 2005 2:22 PM um...you mean $10 million and not $10 right Jay? Posted by: Joe at February 2, 2005 2:29 PM God...shut up FUBABEE, people aren't gonna stop talking shit to each other just on account that you asked them to. Stop living in a fantasy world where you think people will just bow down to your every command. Let the people post what they want. That's why it's called an open forum. I see every other post you have made is pleading with the people to stop hating. By the way i'm against all of this nonsense that HOT97 has put out, but just because you post something doesn't mean it's going to change the way people felt from the getgo about the whole thing. Posted by: stop CRYING FUBABEE at February 2, 2005 2:32 PM I don't see what the point is in shooting down someone for saying the right thing. Look into a mirror before you call someone else out. No need to address this to anyone in particular, if you fit the bill then you'll know who I'm addressing this to. Posted by: Ming at February 2, 2005 2:46 PM the morning show resumes next week...starring Miss jones! Miss Info go to VH1 Posted by: hot97fan at February 2, 2005 3:05 PM "Today at 1:30 Councilman John Liu will hold a press conference, where he is expected to demand that Emmis give $10 to Tsunami aid rather than $1 million." Jay, is that right - ten dollars? or is it meant to be $10 mill? Posted by: peter mac at February 2, 2005 3:12 PM I don't think it's right to demand donation. No matter what happened or what they did. People donate out of their kindness. I'm sure Tsunami relief can use the money however, but it shouldn't matter how much anyone donates, though the more the better. I want something else to be done. Like fire Miss Jones. I want the whole station to shut down. Posted by: kaf at February 2, 2005 3:51 PM You all who criticized me have your heads in the sand. You think this incident is only a unique case of racism from Todd Lynn and Miss Jones? You don't think that the majority of HOT 97 audience and management are racists? They composed, played, and replayed the song. The audience enjoyed it. No black person protested the song until WE started making a fuss. Open your eyes, Asians. What do you think the main audience base of Hot 97 think? When Philly 99FM was criticised for calling an Indian a "rat-eater," the spokesperson said that she didn't think the complaints were legitimate because they were coming from people who don't even listen to hip hop. On tv and media, there are virtually no representations of Asians, and if there are, they are all rude, psycho, or terrorists. How many of you have watched "King of the Hill"? Do you see how the asian father is represented? How many of you watched show about picking comics on NBC? Did you see the racism Dat Phan faced? Racial slurs flew from that black bitch, Tess's, mouth regularly. No one spoke up then. Black racism is rampant. And don't teach me about Asia. I have been there throughout the region---and yeah, throughout China--which is more than I can say about you assimilated Asian-Americans. I work hard in this country and I am proud of my heritage. And by the way, Indian civilzation is the oldest civilzation--the Indus Valley is the cradle of civilzation. Hinduism is the oldest religion there. Even if there is dispute, I KNOW that Africa is not the cradle of civlization--if anything, it is the Middle East. Regardless, African-Americans do not have any rights to AFRICAN civilization. Most of those uneducated idiots couldn't even pinpoint Kenya on the map or Nigeria. Give me a break. Most of them don't even know that Africa is a continent. They're too busy shooting each other in the 'hood and dropping out of sixth grade to have babies. Wake up people! Especially you Asians (whites are useless, they are so castrated and feel so guilty about slavery, they will let blacks do anything). Open your eyes, Asians. My Japanese friend, only the other day, was treated so badly by a black ass obese cashier, and when we were leaving, the black-ass bitch loudly said about my friend, "damn asian, can't speak english." My friend was VISITING me from japan. I know that she speaks better English than those "We was goin' to smoke crack" English spoken by blacks. Learn verb conjugation. It is "We were" not "We was." Listen, i have more international and gloabl friends than all of you. I KNOW that Miss Jones and Todd Lynn are not exceptional cases of racists. I know that they come from communities who have taught them to behave this way, to think this way. We can get Todd Lynn fired, but what are we doing to stop all those Todd Lynns who treat us all like shit? Remember L.A.? Asian stores were looted. That was a whole community. Get blacks to apologize for LA looting of Asian stores. Koreans, speak up, dammit. Posted by: Asian from West Coast at February 2, 2005 4:06 PM The racism in the 'tsunami song' is about the racial slurs, and stereotypes. In and of themselves, slurs are empty labels. They are a lot more harmful when coupled with the context in which they're uttered; when combined with obviously degrading and extreme stereotypes; when used with clear intent, to let the target of the slurs know in no uncertain terms how they're thought of. The slurs for the Chinese are noteworthy because of the fact that the disaster occurred in the Indian Ocean, and the great majority of the victims are not Chinese. Yes, the song was insensitive to the victims and friends and family. The song was, at the same time, racist, because it specifically called out the Chinese, who are not exactly intimately connected to the tsunami, except in the minds of those who don't know any different. Ignorance of the facts about a certain race or ethnicity of people leads to...racism. And that underscores the phenomenon that, to a large part of the world, Asians are still not understood. What exactly does it mean to be Asian? Many ethnicities fall under the category. Unfortunately, the stereotype is "they all look alike and you can't tell them apart" even when it's the most diverse race in the world. I know 'racism' commonly conjures up KKK or black civil rights, and we can be very reluctant to use that word unless the circumstances are familiar - such as the N word because there's been so much history known to the general public. But, that 'general public' is changing. The makeup of America isn't just white and black, and in 30 years it'll be a hugely different picture. Asians do not yet have the clout and representation in media now. In the 'beginning' there will be a lot of debate about what is racist and what isn't, just because it's not an established concept. Posted by: Chris at February 2, 2005 4:09 PM Oh, and other thing. Even my college friends, one from Ethiopia, another from Zimbabwe, and another from Nigeria, agree that BLACK-AMERICANS are racists. Even they don't want to associate with Black-americans. Posted by: Asian from West Coast at February 2, 2005 4:15 PM Well, I wrote again to the FCC and complain why they still haven't address this problem and this is what response I got:
Neither the FCC nor any other government agency can direct broadcasters to present or refrain from presenting specific programs, or tell them * There is no federal law that bars broadcasting the discussion of any subject. www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/radiocallin.html Thank You
Specifics of the FCC's Rules Governing Obscene and Indescent Programming. Congress has given the FCC the responsibility for administratively enforcing the law that governs obscene and indecent programming. The Commission may revoke a station license, impose a monetary forfeiture, or issue a warning for the broadcast of obscene or indecent material. Obscene speech is not protected by the First Amendment and cannot be broadcast at any time. To be considered obscene, material must meet a three-prong test:
The material must depict or describe, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by applicable law; and The material, taken as a whole, must lack serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. Indecency is defined as "language or material that, in context, depicts or describes, in terms patently offensive as measured by contemporary community standards for the broadcast medium, sexual or excretory organs or activities." Indecent programming contains patently offensive sexual or excretory references that do not rise to the level of obscenity. The courts have held that indecent material is protected by the First Amendment and cannot be banned entirely. It may, however, be restricted in order to avoid its broadcast during times of the day when there is reasonable risk that children may be in the audience. Consistent with a federal statute and federal court decisions interpreting the indecency statute, the FCC adopted a rule pursuant to which broadcasts - both on television and radio - that fit within the indecency definition and that are aired between 6:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. are subject to indecency enforcement action. ------------------------------------------------ Does that mean thay can't do a damn thing due to the free speech act? They don't consider this incident "obscene" of "indescent!?! How can they just do nothing when they know this is stright-up wrong. Even with the audio evidence and the countless emails complaining to them? If it was about some jock making fun of the 9-11, I seriously believe they would do something about this. I'm not a lawyer so can someone explain to me if its true that the FCC can't legally punish those involve with the Tsunami song? Posted by: From Canada at February 2, 2005 4:29 PM Oh, another thing. I am senior at Standford. My father worked in a 7-11 for 20 years to get me to college. My sister is going to medical school. That's called PARENTING. We were dirt poor, but we knew about values. We had nothing. No welfare. No federal aid. No affirmative action. I know that getting just Todd Lynn and Miss jones fired isn't the solution. The problem goes deep. Talk to my father who got harrassed by you ignorant welfare-sucking assholes. None of you can hold a candle to my father. HE IS THE ASIAN SPRIIT. Posted by: Asian from West Coast at February 2, 2005 4:31 PM Asian from West Coast, shut up already. No one wants to hear your life story. Instead of complaining here about it, why don't you do something about it? Guess what? You are also a racist, so you are no better than Miss Jones and Todd Lynn. Posted by: Asian from East Coast at February 2, 2005 4:59 PM "Talk to my father who got harrassed by you ignorant welfare-sucking assholes." "Most of those uneducated idiots couldn't even pinpoint Kenya on the map or Nigeria." "have been there throughout the region---and yeah, throughout China--which is more than I can say about you assimilated Asian-Americans." So, let me guess... Making front of African Americans is not enough. You have to attack "assimilated Asian-Americans." For starters, you don't live our lives so stop pretending you do. Secondly, wow... Stanford. I guess you must feel great |