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March 14, 2005Breaking Down Dr. Dre's Formulaslate.com takes a stab at breaking down Dre's hitmaking formula, though they miss a few basic questions: Why he has such a looong list of projects that dried up like a raisin in the sun (Eve, Last Emp, King Tee, Rakim, Detox, his beats for the Black Album..), and how much of the music that has his name on it was actually made by Dre himself.. Why Dr. Dre's protégés always top the charts.Posted by jsmooth995 at March 14, 2005 1:12 AM | TrackBack Comments
I was about to email you this slate link. Posted by: Jeremy at March 14, 2005 2:46 AM I would say the cover why some of his projects don't pan out (they mention Rakim specifically) and the reasoning being that he doesn't work well with established artists. He wants to control and mold artists. His beats and song structure are king and he's an extreme perfectionist in that regard. I would agree with that and that it shows in his work. All of the albums that he exec produces sound leaps and bounds better than the vast majority of hip hop albums in release. He mixes until it is perfect. It also takes him (and his team) an awful long time to finish tracks because of this. For an artist impatient to get out, that ain't gonna cut it. Posted by: Jason at March 14, 2005 7:34 AM Outside of 'Chronic' I really don't see the genius. He can't hold a candle to Primo, Pete Rock or RZA. Posted by: AG at March 14, 2005 12:06 PM Like Jason said, they do explain why the projects with other artists didn't pan out. He likes to be in control, favoring new artists and is fine not putting out many projects. Also, the question of who actually created the beats is something only people in hip-hop ask. Did Quincy Jones make the beats on Thriller? No. Is he still a super-producer? Yes. So is Dre. The point that the writer didnt make is that Dre chooses artists with great backstories to sell. I write more about that here: Dr Dre's Media Savvy Posted by: Hashim at March 14, 2005 12:37 PM damn i'd love to hear rakim/dre collabo. rakim, where you at? Posted by: the crossfader at March 14, 2005 3:17 PM That preference for new artists thing doesn't really answer my question, since Eve and Last Emperor were just as new as Em or 50.. Posted by: Jay Smooth at March 14, 2005 5:42 PM I just think it isn't so cookie cutter. There could have been other factors with Eve and Lord Emp. Maybe Eve couldn't see Dre's vision over a full album. Maybe she needed to be in more control. It seemed to work for her and neither has a problem still working with each other on solo tracks rather than whole albums. I'm sure it takes a lot of patience to work with the diggy diggy doctor. Posted by: Jason at March 15, 2005 2:27 AM How can ya'll forget "DoggyStyle" LP?!?!? Dr. Dre is to Funk Sampling what Q-Tip & Ali were to Jazz sampling (before the DITC and Premier started diggin'). I guess the proof is in the pudding in regards to new vs. established artists. Posted by: Cheddi at March 16, 2005 9:25 AM Whew this article has some ehhh moments, like calling his years with NWA "formative" (World Class Wrecking Cru anyone?) and the impression he gets of No Limit is in contrast to how I'd view No Limit's ridiculous success (populist rise despite critical hate - unfair critical hate, I might add). But there are some good points too. Posted by: David at March 17, 2005 2:00 AM Dre is good, but he cannot compare to the RZA.... Posted by: mark strickland at March 17, 2005 8:26 PM Yeah RZA's really banging out hits these days. You guys are crazy. I heart Pete Rock and as great as "Appreciate" is there's a reason so few people copped that record. Posted by: David at March 18, 2005 12:17 AM A large majority o primo's shit now is to dirty, (not grimy, but sonically greezy), and outdated. Pete Rock is a has been. Rza does scores for major moveies, nuff said. Dre does his thing. Well, Dre's ghost producers, keyboardist, and team of muscicians all do their thing. lotta nice dudes out now though... Kanye's a cornball, but can't deny talent, Just, HI-Tek, Red Spyda, Scott Storch, Thayod, shit, Timbo for that matter... Dre's a marketing genious, he's like a west coast puff with more credit. Posted by: BamBam at March 19, 2005 1:56 AM > damn i'd love to hear rakim/dre collabo. Via Spine: http://spinemagazine.com/music/mar/rakim/welcometothehood.mp3 Posted by: ian at March 21, 2005 10:33 AM And as much as I love Primo, RZA and Pete Rock, David and BamBam above pretty much hit it on the head. Posted by: ian at March 21, 2005 10:36 AM dr. dre is amazing - when he introduced sample based g-funk, he had spawned a whole league of imitators and disciples (dat nigga daz, battlecat, fredwreck). When he switched up his style w/ Aftermath, creating bass-heavy, often cinematic productions (think Poppin Them Thangs, Been There Done That), he spawned another generation of imitators and disciples - most importantly Scott Storch and Eminem. Accusing Dr. Dre of stealing beats is a ridiculous rumor propagated by half-disses in The Source. Listen to all of Dre's productions, there's a consistency. Most hip-hop heads can pick out a Dre beat instantly. Furthermore, Dre gives a shitload of credit where credit is due - look at the album inserts for 2001, etc. If he's stealing people's beats, why credit them? As for the whole rhymin issue, it's not really "ghostwriting" when you fuccin write in the album insert that another person wrote it. Posted by: Jon at March 24, 2005 5:02 PM i think the author of the article hit the nail on the head on the isue of "the law of supply and demand" . Dre makes you wait a while between albums. like on Em's projects, He always makes u wait like 2 years for another Em Album. and ppl been waitin for Detox for like 5 yrs now. just like it was 6 yrs between the chronic and the chronic 2001 Posted by: dnny at March 25, 2005 11:31 PM great blog. Posted by: christina aguilera nude at March 31, 2005 2:31 PM Dr.Dre comes up with the most funky beats. He uses old school funk beats like from the isley brothers. Claifornia Love came from the song Westcoast Poplock. He did the sme with express your self from N.W.A. He takes old school hits and makes them into something new and better with still that old school feel. His 2001 chronic album is more new school but still he uses thoses riffs that make the songs funky like from Nuthin' but a G-thang and f- wit dre day. He became so great that he created his own sections of music like westcoast rap (which is diffrent from rap) and G-funk. Dr.Dre's old days when he had deathrow records are coming back with his new album. The new album has the best beats from Dre and rhymes. This new album is going to turn the whole rap styles from the dirty sout(2002-2004) back to the westcoast. the albums from the westcoast have been making hits and still for 2 decades but these years to come are going to shock people like when N.W.A. came out with F- tha police. Which got they a leeter from the F.B.I. and put them on the F.B.I.'s most wanted list.Also started goverment to try and band gangsta rap. bringing those good days back and new beats will make this new ablum to do the same. Now that he has new artist to aftermath plus the fight at the vibe awards, he had to hold back the detox to add new hardcore tracks. In 2001 he said the old dre will be coming back and he is coming back with those rhymes from COMPTON. Posted by: Patrick at March 31, 2005 9:51 PM Fuck all you fags who think Pete cock and RZgay and that homo primo-bullshit is Better than Dre. Posted by: Roy at April 11, 2005 1:46 PM Roy never heard of PRIMO,... WOW?!?! Posted by: dude at April 19, 2005 11:34 PM Dude, barely ANYONE has heard of Primo - except for dedicated hip-hop heads. primo sucks dick compared to Dr. Dre. Posted by: Joe at May 6, 2005 11:00 AM
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