Stop Lying About the Mashups

It is a great point...but you link to a Wiki...

Go change it...it is public information that you can add to if you believe valuable information is missing...

That is the beauty of wikipedia....

Make it happen my man....

Yes I am aware of the wikiness, hence my question "Can anyone volunteer to edit that?" :)

Editing that wiki would be like yelling at a bad driver. Sure it might make you feel better, but you're not going to change their driving.

Yeah, that wiki article is pretty bunk.

I would volunteer to do it but I'm a West Coast cat, and therefore I only know of Ron G through the numerous references in East Coast rap group lyrics. I've heard maybe one Ron G mix in my whole life, from someone visiting from NYC. I can't front like I know, but it seems to me that you are more than qualified to fill in that space. If you don't, someone else will... or maybe no one will.

Plus: there's always this mainstream media need to rationalize rap. Like when people say Bob Dylan was the first rapper-- it's amusing and interesting, but it's not accurate. Just calling it "Bastard Pop" demonstrates a compulsion to rob hip-hop of its cultural roots, saying that there were precedents elsewhere. No one wants to give rap the credit it deserves: despite the sampling and homage-paying, it is a truly original musical form, pioneered by African-American culture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastard_pop#Remixes

"Technically, all bastard pop songs are remixes."

Nuff said.

Before there was a Ron G, Kid Capri innovated that whole blend/mashup style of R&B acapellas over hip hop instrumental tracks.

it also ignores a little country known as jamaica...the concept of the remix was launched there, and without that flex it's hard to say where any of this would be.

jay, i'm with you. the so-called mashup phenomenon is a humongous music journalism ripoff. but my experience as a dj tells me that the majority of americans are ridiculously ignant about what it is that djs do...most of the time you'd have better luck explaining string theory than beat matching, and when it comes to blends, they're much more willing to accept "that guy did something genius on his computer" than "that guy did something far more precise with two turntables." computers, after all, are magical technology, and it's usually assumed that anything as clunky as two techs and a mixer can't be used for much besides dropping and scratching.

As an older d.j. I really don't like the whole mashup culture that's part of the mainstream club scene. Seems like so many classics have been dragged through the mud and many of the mashups are not elegant combinations, but come off as contrived and forced.

Music today is so derivative as it is and some of these cuts make a snide joke out of songs. While a remix can be clever, some of these are targeted at the same audience as the corny "Kill Whitey" crowd. I find most of them lame. D.j.s like myself used to take acappellas and flip them over different instrumentals to create live, street remixes during parties - which later got to be known as 'blends'.

Something about most 'mashups' just annoys me. Maybe it has to do with the fact that they mix in 80's music with rock and Hip Hop. Is it that combining Hip Hop with a well known 80's or rock song makes it more digestible to mainstream audiences? Something under the surface doesn't sit well with me.

word up ya! stop frontin my dude.

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