For God's Sake, Start Snitching

As Mr Irreverent pointed out, Freaky Zeaky already "snitched" when it came time to testify against the guys who shot him and killed his friend.

Peep here

Okay, I don't want to be a hardcore conspiracy theorist, but I keep wondering if Cam played some role in staging this whole thing, which would be one reason why he wouldn't be cooperating. If that is true, it would also making sense that he is using the word snitch (It would fit with your definition above right??) Anyways, I have no idea. If he staged something like that, that even "more stupider" than not telling police who did it.

I am totally and completely anti-snitching. There are exceptions, but they are rare. \\\ Murder is crime -- but so is the prison system. So is a situation where black men are routinely destroyed by prisons and whole communities are effectively locked down. \\\ The police are enforcers for the biggest gangsters on earth. They are not here to help us or people like us. They are not our protectors, as any woman whose ever been stalked can tell you. \\\ It might not be a difficult choice for you jsmooth, but maybe people in the public eye feel the need to make a deeper point. Justice gets done in all kinds of ways -- but just about never in the Criminally Unjust System. \\\ A good friend of mine was almost murdered several years ago on a beef related to a club fight he broke up working as a bouncer. Months later two guys came at him with straight-razors and almost killed him. \\\ He thought about different options and ended up just letting it go. He didn't strike back, he didn't turn them in -- he broke the cycle. I'm proud of him for that, as was his family and many friends. Others thought he was crazy and should have hit them back -- but literally nobody said he should go to the police. \\\ My local precinct rapes men in the ass with their nightsticks. There's not justice to be had. I've been beaten by the police worse than anyone else in my life -- who am I supposed to call about that?

I've always been against snitching -- which I define as being a informant to the government of any kind -- for more practical reasons than moralistic ones. Yeah, the penal system is disgusting and I'd feel extremely guilty if I were responsible for putting someone behind bar. But, more than that, I know that the police and the court system don't have my interests in mind as much as they have the government's interest in mind. So any alliance with them is risky. The short-term gain might make such an alliance seem worthwhile but the long-term loss should be considered. Simply: snitching puts the snitch at risk as well as the snitchee.
I imagine that's probably part of the basis of Cam'ron's refusal to work with police. Cam wanted people to believe that he was the victim of a random "botched car-jacking." That's clearly not what happened. Of course, if Cam points out who shot him, there will be an investigation to determine precisely why they shot him. The dispute might well have resulted from illegal activities.

If we are to recognize thug life in its most glamorous and hollywood-est form than I think we should argue that Cam realizes "snitching" doesn't necessarily mean the shooter will get caught and/or convicted and Cam would probably prefer to settle things himself and Cam probably wouldn't want to get investigated/implicated if something unfortunate were to happen to the shooter. Or, maybe he's just scared? Or, maybe the shooting wasn't just a carjacking but was prompted by more complex and unknown circumstances. Or, then again, maybe we don't have enough information about the subject to draw too many conclusions. One conclusion we might be able to draw is that Santana is conscious and protective of his image.

The problem with guns and drugs is that a few people can take over an entire neighborhood. The only way to take it back is to hope they all die in a gang war, or work with the police to bust them. My landlady watched somebody get shot (execution style) in front of our house. Damn right she told the police. And now our street is safe and kids don't have to worry about getting shot because crazy crack dealing neighbors are gone.

I'm not pro-prison, but what's the alternative... shoot back?

Hey, I can't argue with Cam'ron. Remember kids "snitches end up in ditches" Don't say a word. Karma will get the guy who shot him.

Criminals harm the community. Get them off the streets. Why protect these scum who distroy our lives.

Maybe the Lil Kim sentence has him a bit leary!?!?
Snitching is helping the cops with something which does not have anything to do with you.

Furthermore...while the jails are horrible and set up and created to serve as an industry...we should not allow our youth to think we dont want them punished for crimes they commit, that is totally IGNORANT.

to "the burningman", like Large Pro said, "GET OFF THAT BULLSHIT!!"

yeah, prison is a bad place. the prison industrial complex is fucked up. so that means that innocent people should feel guilty about sending scumbags to prison if they are attacked, robbed or raped?!?!?!??!?!?!?

f--k this "code of the streets" bull.

i'm real glad that your friend "stopped the cycle". i guess he wasn't worried about the "cycle" of violence that will continue because two young punks thinks its OK to prove their manhood by ganging up and using razors on an unarmed people?

i dont love the cops (peep j-live's "not satisfied" for a nice summary of my views on nypd) but to tell people that its not OK to go the cops? what's next? its not cool to go to school (oh wait...)

Thank you, Jay.

Talking to cops = snitching.

You cant trust this system to bring you safety. This injustice system creates criminals. People hardly have a choice, your poor and have dark skin your considered a criminal.

We must stick together. Snicthes get stiches.

Cops lie and you'll pay if you talk to the cops in one way or another.

In our communities we must learn to deal with are own problems. Relaying on this system for justice and safety is like asking an arsonist to help fight fires.

Why haven't the killers of Tupac and Biggie been arrested?

Because of this "no snitching" bullshit, that's why.

I hate you stupid, ignorant idiots who back up this "no snitching" claim, then proceed go on and on about what's wrong with "the system".

What's wrong with "the system"? I'll tell you what's wrong-- people keeping their mouths shut because they are too chicken to say anything.

No justice for B.I.G., no justice for Pac. As long as you busters keep your lips zipped, don't even come up in my face with that Biggie/2Pac martyr shit, because it's yellow-bellies like YOU who keep his killers free.

Suge Knight said he wouldn't say who killed 'Pac even if he knew. Why? Because he's afraid of being seen as a snitch. Shows you how much power he actually has-- if Suge was really running the show, 'Pac's killer would in jail right now. But no, Suge's afraid of mean ol' David Kenner, who was the REAL muscle behind Death Row... one day y'all will catch up with me on that one.

One last thing: as a man whose uncle has been in jail for half of his life, all I can say is this: the man who pulled the trigger is already out of jail, while my uncle (the accomplice) rots in a cel. Wanna know why? Because he didn't snitch... but the trigger man talked.

So all you "no snitching" morons, just remember: in a real-life situation, your boys will rat you out in a second while you keep your mouth shut and take the fall for them. Yeah, that's real street, that's real thug...

btw: I bet none of you anti-snitch motherfuckers have ever been ina real jam anyway...

I just thought of something else...

Didn't Eddie Griffin do a comedy bit years ago about how it's an oxymoron to be a "gangsta rapper" in the first place?

"Real gangstas don't rap... If you're a rapper, you talk too goddamn much..."

The code of the streets is: don't snitch. That means ANY MC WHO EVER RHYMED ABOUT A CRIME IS AUTOMATICALLY A SNITCH...

So why won't Cam'ron talk, if he's already been proven to be a snitch, just like the rest of these phony gangsta rappers? Oh, I know why-- because he's a POSEUR, just like all of you "no snitching" supporters.

Grow up already-- junior high is over with. This is the Real World, fool. Your local crack block is not the whole wide world. Take a trip outisde of your 'hood sometime and open your eyes, idiots.

The Italian Mafia had a code which forbid anyone to speak to the cops about anything. This was called OMERTA. Anyone who talked anyway commited an infamita and probably would be killed.

But that was because the government and the cops were all corrupt and did nothing for the people but suppress them. The mafia started out as protectors of the people and thats why they didnt snitch. But I think everybody misinterpreted the true meaning. The government in the US isnt THAT bad now, is it? I dont know cause im from Holland. I think the blacks just copied things from the real mob just to look and sound tough. And this all led to young dudes following the whole no-snitching campaign.
Just wanted to drop some knowledge. 1

So what I'm hearing from a lot of people is that the system isn't perfect so we should just give up. We will never be able to participate in any meaningful positive way so we should set up a shadow nation. Sounds like a bunch of cowards who are afraid to fail to me.

Snitches get stiches - thats so pussy. And Cam'ron planning the shooting? bullshit. This aint the movies you idiots. My brother was shot twice at point blank; once in the arm and once in the leg. It hurts him too much to walk long distances, and has limited use of his right arm because the muscles were torn to shreds. Guns aint a game, and although the legal system sucks, so does being crippled for life. Breaking the cycle isn't keeping quiet, that fuels the cycle.

Indeed, this notion that failing to report a violent crime constitutes "breaking the cycle" does not make a lick of sense to me. This is far more likely to perpetuate the cycle.

And in general these politically motivated anti-"snitching" arguments are based on simplistic generalizations and rhetoric about "the system" that just doesn't add up for me.

Attempting to work with a system that is well-intentioned but severely flawed is a far better choice than doing nothing. A no-brainer. There's a chance the former may do more harm than good, but the latter is guaranteed to do so.

I've been seeing those STOP SNITCHIN t-shirts around lately and honestly they are just another way for somebody to make some money of ignorant people bottom line. Eveybody is down with the wrong movement and will jump on the bandwagon to feel apart of SOMETHING.

Is "Snitchin" really the biggest problem in the Ghetto? NO!

Negative is the new positive these days and people have confused ignorance with street knowledge. If I wore a shirt saying "Heal the Hood" I would be labeled as a "Sucka" or a "Square" but really if the hood was doing good, cats wouldn't worry about snitches... we would all be legit.

Its all misconstrued knowledge and understanding of the mafia laws and culture. If you feed information of the family to any government bodies, you are considered a rat/snitch.

The problem we have here is that dudes coming up today have the same mentality in a completely developed environment.

I wouldn't speculate why Cam isn't helping the police with their investigation and without knowing more facts, I wouldn't make comparisons to Freaky's case.

Cam'ron has an album coming out in Feb right? One thing i will speculate is that this situation goes alot deeper than "Not Snitching"..

that is fucked snitches should be shot

growin up in the inner cities i know a lot of these street cats feel like they can take the law into their own hands instead of getting help from the cops if u know wat i mean. Though snitchin now days can mean other things such as... tattle telling u dig? it's slang now kids use that word like how the term pimp progressed to other meanings but i think the majority of law biding folks in cam's situation would snitch. but dude has that gangsta image he must portray communicating with the cops would tarnish his rep and rappers these days seem like they want to get shot so they can seem more real like they got stripes for surviving shots or doing prison time or watever

Plus in the streets word gets around fast if u get caught snitchin to the cops u'll be a target so u understand why a lot of folks in the hood refuse to talk. If it aint none of my bidness then i aint see shit

I have been around the streets all of my life. I have been associated with the streets since I was 14. One thing was made clear to me early: snitching is wrong. However, if u are not apart of the street lifestyle, then u don't have to abide by our code of ethics. I don't fault old ladies for telling cops about crimes they saw. But if u are in the streets ten u do have to abide by the code, and that code is don't snitch

PS: if u are from the street and have snitched, whether anyone knows it or not, u have to look at yourself in the mirror knowing u broke the code u chose to live by bitch!!!

CAM AINT GONNA SNITCH! 50 AINT EVEN SNITCH AND CUZ IS A MARKED MAN. COME ON NOW

According to the constitution of the United States of America. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT. The best thing to do is to use them. Let your lawyer do ALL OF THE TALKING.

YO JIM JONES GOT RUN OUTTA CHEMISTRY CLUB (PITTSBURG)AND HE SUPPOSEDLY ASKED HELP FROM THE
C.O.P.S !!!!!!!!!!! I HEARD THEY GOT THEIR ASS BEAT.

a lotta cats talk that no snitchin nonsense until they realize they're going to jail for 10, 20 ,30+ years. Then they'll tell on damn near anyone to get a reduced sentence. Even the mafia dudes.

The most fucked up aspect of the hood is that the cycle will not stop as long as the people trying to educate themselves and get ahead are harassed, while the local drug dealing menace is glorified. Fuckin cowards.

there really is no reason ever to talk to the cops! thats it period! eye for an eye....if you can idnetfy someone you can handel it yourself!if your scared get a dog or stay home most of the time when sht pops off you know you dont belong there and its none of yopur bizness

I'm so glad no one I know is stupid enough to wear these shirts. What an idiotic concept.

Hey... where can I find a "start snitching" t-shirt?

FUCKING SNITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jay Smooth thinks "the system is well-intentioned but flawed?"

For real?

I don't think systems are about intentions. They are about power and control. The Criminal Justice System is many things, not least the TOTAL control of Black people.

I'm sorry. I've been on trial and its ALL bullshit. Everybody lies: prosecutors, defense, cops and robbers.

So while the biggest thieves RUN THE GOVERNMENT, like Dick Cheney and George Bush -- and they are above the so-called law, the idea that the police/prisons are some nuetral referee is naive at best.

I don't run with criminals or respect parasites or bullies. But I know who the real thieves are -- and they don't come in through the window. They own the building.

Who am I gonna call about that?

This, to me, is the type of broad-stroke hypergeneralized rhetoric that makes for a rousing speech, but rings hollow when applied to the real-life situations we are discussing.

Nobody here has claimed that the justice system operates purely as a "neutral referee." But to assume that the system is pure unadulterated evil, and can never be used to a citizen's advantage, is no less naive than assuming it is pure unadulterated virtue. It is equally naive, and equally detrimental to our community's well-being.

Crown Stone: suggest you READ the Constitution and see what it REALLY says, since you didnt quote anything but something called a Miranda Right...and its NOT in the Constitution.

Do they have proof with Videos of Police Officers Raping Men with KnightSticks in their Asshole.

STOP SNITCHING.

POLICE PEOPLE KILL MINORITY YOUNG MEN EVERYDAY FOR NO REASON.

Plus we need to get this money

SNITCHEN IS FOR SUCKERS,REAL DUDES DONT SNITCH,POLICE GET CHECKS FOR FINDING THERE MAN WHY SHOULD WE HELP THEM GET RICH? CAM STAY G"D UP DO WHAT YOU DO MY DUDE?

I WANT TO BE A SNITCH TOOOOOOOO!!!!!
SOOOOO MANAME IS NELSON THE RAT!!!!

you can really just shut up about all this snitching stuff...no one cares what you think! If someone don't want to snitch then I don't see what's wrong with that. I don't snitch I think if you snitch your stupid just like you think if you don't snitch than your stupid. So you can really just shut up

FUCK SNITCHING!!!!!

Oh my fuckin god. To all you retards who think everything is a fuckin conspiracy i Say PROUDLY FUCK YOU!!! You all are some overdramatic sons of bitches. Sayin "oh the police are so corrupt im not gonna snitch" thats complete and utter bullshit. Please all you stop snitchin ppl, just cut your wrists. Plz start snitchin. if u see a crime CALL THE FUCKIN POLICE!!! thats what they are there for!

yeah! get shot, beated, robbed or raped then keep your mouth shut, kill the perp. repeat.

I'm not "pro-snitching," I'm pro-responsibility. People who push this "stop snitching" nonsense refuse to grow up and take responsibility for themselves.

I completly understand.I wouldn't snith on someone unless I really had to.In this case I think that he just didn't want the police involed.He wanted to handle it his own way.

am i really hearing this? are people really not willing to talk to law enforcement even if their friends and family are in danger? i guess that's why the ghetto changes so slowly if at all. how can i help those who need help if nobody will talk and inform me. honestly i think you guys are over thinking it. i am a cop in the ghetto in maybe one of the most violent cities in the country and most people DO want to assist the police and most people DO want to see these criminals go to jail. maybe it is me and how i work in my area. i TALK to the residents and i try to help them work out their problems. i think it is these fancy rappers wanting to be in the limelight. if they are so 'hood' then why do they need big budget body guards? juelz santana would never walkaround with his diamonds and bling without a security team. atleast not where i work. he would get his skinny ass rocked. and if someone stole it he wouldn't need to snitch cause his insurance would pay for it. as far as snitchin goes i can't tell you how often i get a call from an 80yr. old who is tired of the gangsters and hustlers on her block. is she snitchin? because she sure can't fend for herself. listen, we, the police, can't help the ghetto if the residents don't help us. and i wanted to end on a positive note, but i have to say these last three things and the first two may seem semi aggressive, but i assure you that i am a very fair and approachable officer. one: i snitch, on criminals AND crooked police, so if you think snitches get stiches then come on and try to give me a stich, i swear that you'll be in cuffs or have a swollen jaw before you throw a punch. two: if you break the law you will be arrested, PERIOD. three: most of us, the police and judicial system want to help, but we need your help. sorry for the long message, but i had a lot on my chest after reading some of the previous posts, by people who have prob. never even seen a ghetto and can barely even put together a full and complete sentence i.e.

"If someone don't want to snitch then I don't see what's wrong with that...I don't snitch I think if you snitch your stupid just like you think if you don't snitch than your stupid."
Posted by: Amanda at June 3, 2006 10:10 AM

Sorry amanda, but learn english before you worry about society's ills, "if someone DOESN'T want to snitch" and if you snitch YOU'RE supid just like you think if you don't snitch THEN YOU'RE stupid. AMANDA SHOULD HAVE STAYED IN SCHOOL!!!

Well, I can string together complete sentences and am actually very educated. I also have spent quite a few years running in the ghettos of Baltimore city. The bottom line is, prohibitionist laws as they are create 90% of the "crime" we have today. Prohibition didn't work in the 1930's, so what makes people think it will work today??? I absolutely refuse to assist the government or police in enforcing laws that I find contrary to the principals of freedom to persue happiness, and which piss all over my 4th amendment rights among others. Yes, I am referring to non-violent drug crimes, dealing and otherwise. That's why I don't snitch or talk to cops, at least when it comes to drug investigations. I don't defend armed robbers or rapists, and would certainly call the cops if my family was in danger (even though I doubt it would do much good.) What I will not do is help enforce and perpetuate unjust laws in an unjust system that actually create more crime, violence and problems than they prevent. The drug war needs to stop, and until it does, I will not trust, nor will I help the police in any way......and neither should anyone else. You want to help your community??? Then try getting the disgusting prohibitionist drug laws changed, because that's the ONLY way things will ever get better. You would think after 35 years of this crap we would have a clue.

Well, I can string together complete sentences and am actually very educated. I also have spent quite a few years running in the ghettos of Baltimore city. The bottom line is, prohibitionist laws as they are create 90% of the "crime" we have today. Prohibition didn't work in the 1930's, so what makes people think it will work today??? I absolutely refuse to assist the government or police in enforcing laws that I find contrary to the principals of freedom to persue happiness, and which piss all over my 4th amendment rights among others. Yes, I am referring to non-violent drug crimes, dealing and otherwise. That's why I don't snitch or talk to cops, at least when it comes to drug investigations. I don't defend armed robbers or rapists, and would certainly call the cops if my family was in danger (even though I doubt it would do much good.) What I will not do is help enforce and perpetuate unjust laws in an unjust system that actually create more crime, violence and problems than they prevent. The drug war needs to stop, and until it does, I will not trust, nor will I help the police in any way......and neither should anyone else. You want to help your community??? Then try getting the disgusting prohibitionist drug laws changed, because that's the ONLY way things will ever get better. You would think after 35 years of this crap we would have a clue.

Well, I can string together complete sentences and am actually very educated. I also have spent quite a few years running in the ghettos of Baltimore city. The bottom line is, prohibitionist laws as they are create 90% of the "crime" we have today. Prohibition didn't work in the 1930's, so what makes people think it will work today??? I absolutely refuse to assist the government or police in enforcing laws that I find contrary to the principals of freedom to persue happiness, and which piss all over my 4th amendment rights among others. Yes, I am referring to non-violent drug crimes, dealing and otherwise. That's why I don't snitch or talk to cops, at least when it comes to drug investigations. I don't defend armed robbers or rapists, and would certainly call the cops if my family was in danger (even though I doubt it would do much good.) What I will not do is help enforce and perpetuate unjust laws in an unjust system that actually create more crime, violence and problems than they prevent. The drug war needs to stop, and until it does, I will not trust, nor will I help the police in any way......and neither should anyone else. You want to help your community??? Then try getting the disgusting prohibitionist drug laws changed, because that's the ONLY way things will ever get better. You would think after 35 years of this crap we would have a clue.

How can someone who is so educated have no clue? What you fail to realize, legalizefreedom, is that responsibility comes with all of the rights that the constitution promises us. We are guaranteed the right to pursue happiness, but that doen't mean we can do whatever the hell we want. We are guaranteed freedom of speech, but that doesn't mean we can say whatever we want. Responsibility comes with all rights. Prohibition, in reference to alcohol was a stupid law, that's why it was amended way back when. What makes you think that there are any non-violent drug crimes anyway? How can you possibly know where that weed, coke, crack or heroin came from? Some family coud very well have been slaughtered in a country down south by the cartels that made and smuggled it. I know this blog is about snitching, but legalizefreedom raised some very arguable points. Think about this legalize freedom. A man does heroin for the first time and over a period of time becomes addicted. His own life to piss away right? Then when he decides to quit, he can't afford any kind of clinical treatment because he pissed away all of his money chasing dope, so he goes to an already overpopulated free clinic. Who picks up the bill for that? Our tax dollars, mine and yours. So I say to you that he is pissing allover my freedom and everyone elses. I understand the argument that the legalize it movement has when it come to marijuana. I can accept that it probably should be legal. But cocaine, heroin, E, and the rest should not be legal due to the dependency and devastating effects it can have on a person's body and entire communities as a whole. Just look at Baltimore's communities before the crack epidemic. West and east Balto are nearly entirely empty now, when before it had very affulent neighborhoods rich with proud home-owners of both whites and blacks. It looks like HELL now. Next time you are running around West Balto take a look at it. Some blocks are 90% vacant. Rats everywhere and some people who look like zombies. And it isn't just the black neighborhoods either. Go down S. Monroe St. and take a look at SW balto. in pigtown, dope affects every race legalize it. The war on drugs may not be the answer, but legalizing all of it DEFINATELY isn't the answer. Keep talking good people, we're listening.

I am pro snitching. Why? Because I trust the police and care more about them than some common criminal. I don't care what the police officer's motives are as long as he or she puts the criminal behind bars. Sounds simple really, why are these street gangsters so afraid of the police?

Fuck snitching and snitches police fucking lock my ass up fucking beat me down man fuck i dont care if you is black white or mexican we all need to get together and fuck these police up man xiv northside

first of all denntenxiv14 is clearly a FUCKING IDIOT! learn the english language and then try to debate the issue at hand and anytime you feel like you are bad enough, go ahead and try to fuck me up. i pleade to the moderators of this board, keep the FUCKING RETARDS like denntenxiv14 off of this debate so we can discuss it intelligently, like adults. what a DUMBASS, next time you post, try to put together a complete sentence because you are setting your people and hiphop back a hundred years with every key you push.

I'll snitch. Damn right. You may want to live by some code of thinking it isn't cool to snitch, but I care more about my soul and peace of mind knowing another person who did nothing but waste his life and mind is behind bars because he's nothing more than a criminal. Let's think about it: save a criminal who could very well have me next on his list to rob, steal from, or kill.. OR.. help the police put said worthless criminal behind bars so everyone's a little bit safer out in the world. DEFINITELY going with the latter. Ya'll punks and cowards can have the former.

man fuck da polize, swat, fbi, n all da otha law enforcement shit...... SNITCHES GET STICHES.......
SNITCHES GET FOUND IN DITCHES...... anyone who advocates snitchin CLEARLY doeznt know watz gon happen 2 dey ass..... wen u snitch ur only makin things worse..... dis aint elementary school where ppl follow punishments n shit lyke dat.... deez muthafuckaz want revenge n dey get it 2 no matta wat da cost

man fuck da polize, swat, fbi, n all da otha law enforcement shit...... SNITCHES GET STICHES.......
SNITCHES GET FOUND IN DITCHES...... anyone who advocates snitchin CLEARLY doeznt know watz gon happen 2 dey ass..... wen u snitch ur only makin things worse..... dis aint elementary school where ppl follow punishments n shit lyke dat.... deez muthafuckaz want revenge n dey get it 2 no matta wat da cost

Snitch-vb 1. to inform, tattle (the dictionary deffinition)

Ok personally i don't really trust the police either, even though my dad is cop. However i know that not all police are quote un-quote uncareing or trying to frame people. i know a few other cops that are cool and have helped out people introuble. but this stop snitching thing is dumb.

come on if i was shot, or raped hell yea i'd want that bastard locked up. There is a time and place when it is ok to talk to the police, when you are a victim, is one of them and when the victim can not speak for themself is the another.

think of it this way if you knew a little kid who got raped, and they would not speak to the cops cause they were scared, and you knew about it and who did it would you tell? or would you let that sicko walk around to mess with more kids? is that snitching? NO

my cousin was murder in 2001 and everyone knows who did it and no one will come up and say anything, that's not cool...so my aunt and her family have to live knowing this guy who shot my cousin is walking down the street who they may see everyday and noone will say anything.

snitching is not talkin to the police period it's when you tell on another person who you commited a crime with to get your self a lesser charge.

wow, you don't know the first thing about grammar do you? idiot. go back to school.

NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING, will change or get better in the ghetto if people who live there keep fighting the ONLY criminal justice system they have. (by abiding to the stop-snitching idealism) Sure, the criminal justice system has a lot of flaws. But understand, it's all we have to help combat crime. No one can honestly say the police never and compleately dont do anything about every single instance of crime that happens out there. Do the math- 1,000,000 people in a city and 1,000 officers. Probably 3% of that are detectives who investigate violent crime. Therefore these things take time to solve and they ABSOLUTELY need the public's cooperation when investigating them. The reciprocating violence precipitated by "stop snitching" is clearly evident by the lack of change that is occuring in the ghetto. People are not robots. They have a choice to get revenge on someone or not. If you dont, and report it to the police, you break the cycle. There are plenty of drawbacks by doing this, but honestly, how can you bitch about something that is wrong if you CLEARLY are part of the problem? These are the same people who bitch about the police and government. Bottom line, taking things into your own hands DOES NOT and never will solve anything. This is evident to the amount of the never ending crime in the ghetto.

Dont like the way things are? It can be changed. It ALL starts with personal decisions about how you handle cards that are dealt to you. PERIOD.

By the way, the current plan isnt working.

Not snitching is a crime. If you see a crime and you do not report it then you are exactly what Michael Richards called you.