Phil Jackson's Anti-Hip-Hop Rants

F*ck Phil. I could go on about him but there's only so many hours in a day and he just ain't worth it.

LOVE the part about "the camel's thoracic and lumbar vertebra just went into trauma." ROTFLMAO! Prove positive that you ARE hip hop, no question.

"The "attention span" thing is especially random and stupid. If anything hip-hoppers should be ahead of the game, since we have to memorize 3 times as many lyrics for each song, compared to any other pop music."

Once again, excellent point.

he's just a basketball coach.

i was just discussing this a lil while ago. sorry but ive never been a fan of phil. my dislike for him
has always been basketball related, but this is really takin it to another level. he should just stick to basketball and keep his big mouth shut. "Sacred Ignorance" is an appropriate title...

This is just another example of the older white generation limiting Hip Hop music. Instead of trying to interpet some of the many variatons that this artform has to offer, he rather label it has hate, naracism, and thuggery.

Big Chief Triangle is often in his own world

What is up Jay Smooth!

Phil's objective views on attention span etc etc are his and we can't knock anyone for their views.

The one remark he makes which I can dig is the "prison-garb & thuggery" points. I expect most who even tune into WBAI to at least understand the classism which holds this country together. IMO this classism is so covert that it isnt even black & white it is socio-economic. The imagery has taken over the music. The streets used to impact the music now since the video the music impacts the streets. I love and grew up on Hip Hop but this look that Phil is commenting on is not the look of my generation or any generation after me. This look has been taken from a negative situation and turned into entertainment. TRUST..the big record execs will not allow their daughters to bring home a young fella looking like 50 into his home...he would not even allow 50 in his home.

We dont see anymore PYT, KRS, King Sun, YZ..etc etc because these types of rappers may teach you something about yourself and this society driven by consumerism. As a people we lashed out at Bill Cosby yet his points still ring out.

Rant coming to an end....how cool is it for the "MAN" that the little money people make they spend it right back on the newest "prison garb" wear instead of practicing the virtuous lifestyles our kids and family deserve.

The only rebellion is a hostile takeover. Dressing the way you want is irrelevant.

OUT

Phil is a total jackass... AND ANYTHING BUT A COACH. Gimme Jordan, Pippin, Rodman, Shaq, and even pussy-ass, european-wannabe Kobe and.... guess what... I'd be a superstar "coach" too!

Phil, I take it, does not listen to rap music beyond what he might catch on the radio while turning the dials. He doesn't sound like a bigot or racist or even small-minded-- he sounds exactly like an older person who thinks rap is all about Lil' Jon and 50 cent because that's all they are exposed to.

Maybe some of his players on his teams could do to him what he does to them: give them a present. But instead of the books he is famous for prescribing to his players, they should give him CDs of The Coup, or Common, or Immortal technique, or Ras kaas, or KRS-ONE, or Dead Prez, or even PE's latest. THEN, if Phil still doesn't have anything good to say about rap, we'll at least know that it's just his taste.

And please, no hating on Phil Jackson: "Jordan, Pippin, Rodman, Shaq, and even pussy-ass, european-wannabe Kobe" all share one thing in common: the Championship rings stopped coming after Phil left their respective teams...

Phil is only one of millions who look at what they hear on the radio, and assume that the bullshit they hear is hip hop. Come to think of it, who can blame him?
Who can blame the person who flips through his channel and hears laffy taffy a dozen times a day. Phil Jackson doesn't hear KRS 1 or Talib Kweli, he hears laffy taffy because thats all that's played on the radio these days. Lets face it, the bullshit that's in hip hop is so dominant in the media, that the average consumer doesn't know about the art. The people who really rap about things that are relevant are never played on the radio, so its the hip hop business that's to blame for Phil Jackson's remarks, because songs like Laffy Taffy have 10 times the audience than anything uplifting, positive, or just plain skillful. Thanks a lot.

i think that phil jackson is an amizaneing coach and am glad he is back in the nab to contribute

I hear ya about Phil racking up some rings, but I don't think it's ONLY b/c he was the coach--Look at the Lakers. Couldn't beat Detroit 2 yrs ago w/ Shaq and Kobe --and really, *shouldn't* have been able to beat the Spurs. Fortunately for them I guess, the Spurs beat themselves.

Seriously tho-- Phil, thought you were a good guy, but don't think so anymore. Don't think your a great coach (box zone and a couple of elementary school plays--that should not be impossible to defeand/beat...unless u have the tallent), but he's a successful one--and that matters.

I personally think he made a deal with el diablo to get all those ballaz.... and while I'm at it--GO SPURS!

I am offended by Phil's comments, though not because of what he said. I am offended by his ignorance. I am not a basketball fan so I cannot discuss his coaching skills or what he should have won or not. On the same hand, he is not a rap/hip-hop fan so he shouldn't feel so free about throwing his opinions around. This is America and we do have freedom of speech, but we also have the ability and presence of mind to respect others and not say whatever comes to mind.

Phil's absolutely right.

Wake up, you fools.

It saddens me that you so-called die hard hip hop fans are in such denial as to the fact that Phil speaks the truth.

Though hip hop (and I mean mainstream hip hop, because it's the one doing the most damage to blacks) cannot be blamed for the pathetic progress blacks have made since the 60s, it can be larlgely blamed for the lack of MOTIVATION blacks have to progress. These rappers out here with their sexy women and jewelry are implating a message into the skulls of young black males that they need to have those, and they need to get them as quick as possible. Combine that with poor living conditions that may black youths suffer in, and you've got a black-dominated criminal population.

Now, I'm saying, if you remove the stimulus (materalistic hip hop), you'll alter the response (desire to acheive legitimate goals through illegitimate means). You'll still have people out there, in the poor living conditions, who will commit crimes, and that's expected, given the circumstances. You're not going to be able to tell someone who is making money off sellling drugs that he should go to school, because in his mind, he's already got a high paying job, which is what an education promises to give, without going to school. However, I believe that if you remove the materialistic hip hop, there's a lessened sense of urgency, because now you've removed the reinforcement that is constantly telling an individual that he is doing the right thing and keeping "real".

KRS-1 is not going to come out of his studio apartment and save hip hop, it's up to us, the people who recognize its flaws, to not let the materialistic version dominate the media. The conceptual and artistic version which lingers in the underground needs to be the type of hip hop which is heard by the masses.

It saddens me that you so-called die hard hip hop fans are in such denial as to the fact that Phil speaks the truth.

"The "attention span" thing is especially random and stupid. If anything hip-hoppers should be ahead of the game, since we have to memorize 3 times as many lyrics for each song, compared to any other pop music." - WHAT!? It doesn't matter if a rapper can memorize extra lines if his set of lyrics 1) do not match with the song's concept (if it even has one) or hook or 2) flat out SUCK.

Though hip hop (and I mean mainstream hip hop, because it's the one doing the most damage to blacks) cannot be blamed for the pathetic progress blacks have made since the 60s, it can be larlgely blamed for the lack of MOTIVATION blacks have to progress. These rappers out here with their sexy women and jewelry are implating a message into the skulls of young black males that they need to have those, and they need to get them as quick as possible. Combine that with poor living conditions that may black youths suffer in, and you've got a black-dominated criminal population.

Now, I'm saying, if you remove the stimulus (materalistic hip hop), you'll alter the response (desire to acheive legitimate goals through illegitimate means). You'll still have people out there, in the poor living conditions, who will commit crimes, and that's expected, given the circumstances. You're not going to be able to tell someone who is making money off sellling drugs that he should go to school, because in his mind, he's already got a high paying job, which is what an education promises to give, without going to school. However, I believe that if you remove the materialistic hip hop, there's a lessened sense of urgency, because now you've removed the reinforcement that is constantly telling an individual that he is doing the right thing and keeping "real".

KRS-1 is not going to come out of his studio apartment and save hip hop, it's up to us, the people who recognize its flaws, to not let the materialistic version dominate the media. The conceptual and artistic version which lingers in the underground needs to be the type of hip hop which is heard by the masses.

"The "attention span" thing is especially random and stupid. If anything hip-hoppers should be ahead of the game, since we have to memorize 3 times as many lyrics for each song, compared to any other pop music." -WHAT!? It doesn't matter if a rapper can memorize more lines if a.) the lyrics don't even match with the song's concept (if it has one) or 2.) flat out SUCK.

Although Phil Jackson makes a poor practioner of Zen Budhism. He's right about the ugliness of professional basketball players aligning themselves with the the aspect hip-hop culture that idolizes and symbolizes anti-social and illegal behavior. This is the garbage of hip-hip and no professional, artist, or craftsman should become bedfellows with this. The thugs, per se, of hip-shop and those that encourage and support "thuggery" should do us a progressive favor and put the proverbial barrel in their professing mouths.
A trigger shouldn't be a hard thing to pull, if your good at pulling the wool over the audience's eyes.