October 17, 2006

Jay-Z "Show Me What You Got" Video




(10/17 - Updated with new link to video from bolt.com.. is it even worth linking up to youtube anymore? all their videos self-destruct in 5 seconds now.)

Jay-Z and F Gary Gray team up for the "Show Me What You Got" video, which is fine I suppose, but basically yet another episode of "Hooray, I'm rich! Watch me do rich people things!" I've said this before and i'll say it again: Jay is smart enough to deliver more than that. I wish he'd challenge himself, and challenge the "if skills sold, truth be told" orthodoxy more than he does.

(via the mighty eskay)

Posted by jsmooth995 at October 17, 2006 1:48 PM
Comments

We all wish for so much more from Jay-Z than I think he'll ever give us. And it's his loss as much as ours.

Posted by: Clyde Smith at October 16, 2006 9:21 PM

This video has me excited about the song, which was hard because the song is boring.

I don't think Jay has done a rich person video in a while, which makes this one ok.

Posted by: Hashim at October 17, 2006 9:10 AM

how bad is this song? well, diddy has the same beat on his album, and sounds better over it than jay does. that's how bad this song is.

Posted by: hardCore at October 17, 2006 10:56 AM

Jay debuted his video on Monday Night Football. His vide prominently features NASCAR's Dale Earnhardt Jr. and Danica Patrick. If that's not an indication of who he's trying to cater his new product to, I don't know what is. Thanks but I'll pass on this one. Meanwhile Nas, who was supposed to be Daf Jam's and Jay's priority, is now an after thought...

Posted by: Bruce at October 17, 2006 12:23 PM

awful.

jay is apparently so starved for ideas he's cannibalizing past videos [check the 'money ain't a thang' vid].

video - wack
lyrics - wack
production - lame. i liked that horn lead better 15 years ago when teddy riley was zooma-zoom-zoom-zooming to it...

Posted by: Konijn at October 17, 2006 2:46 PM

You bamas will never get this video!! Jay is one of the clearest example of the American Dream meanwhile people like you all can't understand change. What is he supposed to rap about booty clapping, dealing drugs, robbing folks all the time. If you want that I suggest you stick to snap music. This is for the GROWN and sexy!! Jay's day one fans are grown up now like me and started listening to him when they were between 13 and 18 in 1996. That was close to 11 years ago. Man I'm almost 26 now!! Its time to grow up and make "Grown A-- Man Moves".

Posted by: BJ at October 17, 2006 3:43 PM

After boycotting Cristal due to comments made by Frederic Rouzaud (managing director of Louis Roederer, the company that produces it), Jay Z is now drinking a new brand called Armand De Brignac (http://www.armanddebrignac.com/). "Gold Bottles with the Ace of Spades" as Jay Z puts it in the video.

Posted by: MJ at October 17, 2006 4:24 PM

He called 'em "bamas".

That was funny as shit! I ain't heard that in a while.

You must be from D.C. Are you, BJ?

I was born in NW D.C.

-Black People

Posted by: Black People at October 17, 2006 6:46 PM

i personally think its one of the best things out now once you compare it to all the shit that atl is putting out now a days.

Posted by: trusouth at October 17, 2006 7:40 PM

Its time to wake up and start realizing who Jay-Z is. Nobody, I mean nobody presents a song like ya boy hovy does. From the video to the lyrics is so grown man, its like a movie. Hovs back n*g*as! Realize he here to take over. Peace

Posted by: Young Z at October 18, 2006 5:58 PM

Eh Bruce...You out your mind homie!

Posted by: Young Z at October 18, 2006 5:59 PM

I love everything he make! thats what it is it may not be all tha tbut i bet he got some better shit on the album don hate do u hov

Posted by: violecia carter at October 18, 2006 10:58 PM

I love everything he make! thats what it is it may not be all tha tbut i bet he got some better shit on the album don hate do u hov

Posted by: violecia carter at October 18, 2006 10:58 PM

pandering at its finest.

the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he was the greatest rapper alive.

Posted by: mr. blonde at October 18, 2006 11:41 PM

Its not that I dont like the video because I like the idea of what he is trying to do but man wasnt he retired. Why retire to comeback. Just dont make an album for a while and then make your comeback, but dont retire and then comeback. That is so done and over with! Just ask Too Short!

Posted by: Stephany at October 19, 2006 1:23 AM

BJ you pretty much said it. I'm stunned that cats are not feeling this. Classy, stylish, cold ass diss on Cristal Banging live ass drums. It's Hov and I enjoy it as such, cause I accept him for who he is. If others and Jay himself would stop expecting him to be (Rakim, Chuck D, Tupac, Biggie or Nas) see Blueprint or Balck album. They would realize Jay's wit, wordplay, intros to fashion, cars, literature (yeah I said it check his catalog)and the "High Life" has created a more savvy and sophisticated culture for those who would not have been exposed in this world and not just in America. Some would feel I'm saying alot but who is more influential than Jay (only Oprah)? Jay has Lupe Fiasco to reveal his other side. We all know that Jay could do some other "deeper" stuff, but it depends on how you are looking or more importantly listening to understand that he is already Barry White-ing his ass off (deeper end deeper for those who don't get it and never will. Jay has been ahead of his time (UGK, Too Short, Lenny Karavitz-check samples like Alana Davis for years most aren't versed enough to handle the deep verses he is dropping. Take a breath exhale and relax yourselves. It should be realized that in the cannon of rappers that Jay beyond a shadow of a doubt is one of the illest ever. The boy has staying power, hits, and can make you realize new things with a listen to an old song any day (double entendre ass negro), I dare anyone to listen to Reasonable Doubt and not come across a damn that's what he meant or that can be interpreted another way line. I hear ya Konijin, I thought the same thing with the "money ain't a thing" but he did that in Atlanta (I live in the A just moved from DC) he did this in Monaco!

Posted by: darren at October 19, 2006 3:58 AM

what da hell iz wrong wit y'all. dis iz one of Jiggaz hottest joints. Hova's Back

Posted by: Roach Simmons at October 19, 2006 9:36 AM

Sick video. I found the company that makes the metal case. itz called mezzi or somethign like that

Posted by: ReelNorth at October 19, 2006 10:43 AM

I am with BJ. Do you expect someone who has moved up and moved on to still say the same things he did 10+ years ago?

The man when to Monaco to do a video. People, come on it's MONACO! This is about taking his talent to the masses. Age/race/location means nothing to him and I appreciate it.

I am one who is older than most if not all here but please understand that with age comes wisdom. Though I am not a fan of today's rap (too-much-the-same-cookie-cutter-slice-what-is-selling-drop-some-in-mine-and-give-me-a-cigar-and-a-payday-stuff leaves me tired). Jay-Z has discovered the same. Time to put on the grown up gear...

I think that Jay-Z has a hit and I hope that other artists understand the value of maturation and actualization.

Peace and love all!

Posted by: A-Yo! at October 19, 2006 4:32 PM

this song sucks ass. And so do all of you Jay-Z apologists for making excuses for it. Lyrically it sucks, concpetually its dead, artistically.....well, this isn't what I would consider art. This song sounds like a bad commercial.

Is this what you all consider 'growth' or 'grown man music'? Wow. We are really at a new low, I can't believe we haven't hit the bottom yet.

Posted by: K at October 20, 2006 2:34 PM

this is definately jay showing the progression that we all should show. He is catering to his fan base of people that are 25+ who been listening to him for all 10 summers he held it down. If he was still rappin about drugs and hoes then he would be the same...most people who dont like this dont like change...and thats why they will always stay in the same place in life.

Posted by: Lets Get It at October 20, 2006 8:05 PM

REAL TALK REAL TALK REAL TALK REAL TALK

Posted by: BlackSpade at October 20, 2006 10:02 PM

THERE IS NO OTHER LIKE JAY-Z I SEE MYSELF IN THAT GUY,STOP HATTTTTINNNN ON JAY- GET MONEY LIKE H.O.V.A,THAT WHAT I DO ALWAYS WE LOVE YOU JIGGA SEE ME ON SOUTH BEACH ON THAT BANANA YELLOW ROVER SPORT PEACE FROM THE HAITI KID..GET MONEY

Posted by: YELLOW RANGE ROVER DRIVER IN MIAMI at October 21, 2006 12:19 PM

ei ya'll truff b told diz tune iz nyc but da hook iz gabbage... he iz stil da 1 of da best dat eva did it n stil doin it...

enuf sed

peace ...One...

Posted by: Served at October 21, 2006 3:05 PM

This song is garbage. I would have thought with all his money he didnt need to comeback with this awful self mytholizing crap anymore. Like Jay Smooth said he should challenge himself he is clearly a smart cat this is just the laziest shit ever he should be ashamed of hmself. "kingdome Come" sounds a bit better but he better have a surprise on that album otherwise this comeback is worse that Ray Leonard vs Camacho.

Posted by: Eat My Shorts at October 21, 2006 5:07 PM

Ok, you guys are killing me. What you seem to miss is the underlying move happening here. Lets me honest Jay’s job is to make money. You do it at yours he does it at his, enough said. Now here is what you missed, the new audience and more importantly the connection to Budweiser. In one move he developed a new video, attracted a new audience of NASCAR fans and hooked up a sick deal with Budweiser. You should be so creative! Then the crossover, he advertises his album and snap shots of his video in a Budweiser commercial during the World Series. Not to mention every have money guy in the world will try to figure out what is and how can they get a Zonda ($350,000- Only 30 made yearly). Finally, live music yeah we saw that on coming with the roots but I will bet you Jay pull an MTV unplugged on tour, live ban and all. Give the guy a break he has cracked open the game and showed you its guts (money).

Posted by: Drew at October 25, 2006 9:01 AM

So this video cost $1.8 Budweiser kicked in $700,000. One of the reasons it was sooo exspensive, was because 50 cent pissed off Prince Albert of Monaco so he added extra video taxes for rappers coming in to 'floss'.

The sad fact is that Jay-Z could have made many videos for acts on his label and given new life to DefJam and made way more money from the success of his artists... guess he's not that smart.

Posted by: Figures at October 25, 2006 11:06 AM

Stop hating....everywhere i turn there is always a hater. The song is hot. The live music in the back the easy flow. Jay has skills; he is a real mc. He shows you how versatile he can be. The man goes on retirement, comes back with a a suttle banger. Thats whats up. The clubs in N.Y. ARE GOING BANNAS RIGHT NOW. SO DON'T HATE.

Posted by: Bugzynite rep. Queens Connex at October 25, 2006 1:27 PM

Yea Jay-Z main man HOVA's back bringing integrity back to the game.He does music the right way all these other cats out here just doing it.Forget all that snap music and the same old topics show growth talk about other things so if you ready to step your game up a knotch and get your Grown attire on and leave that kiddie snap music alone go no further cuz HOOOOOO'S BACK HAHA AHHHHH

Posted by: Nate at October 25, 2006 2:00 PM

I heard this song the first tym, was disappointed, heard it agen was still disappointed...maybe i expected too much from him tho..

Posted by: JSS at October 26, 2006 6:43 AM

Well,
everybody expected something different from jay, i guess more gangsta rap. That's what the people want and that's why people think he fell off. In my opinion it's OK, not all that. Dont even really got nething else to say...

Posted by: NYCKING at October 27, 2006 9:54 AM

Yo, all you haters are fuckin GAYYYY (Especially Konjin, and Clyde Smith)!!! This is one of Jay's , not to mention the rap game's finest works in a while. People are mad because the beat is a little more grown up, and uses real instruments instead of pro tools. So "snap ya fingers" and "shoulda lean" exhibit better lyricism?!!! NO. When was the last time Dale Earnhardt Jr. and Danica Patrick wanted to appear in a rap video?!!!Brush your shoulders off Jay!!!

Posted by: Young ONe at October 27, 2006 12:17 PM

Man this vid was awsome. its tight that Jay decided to incorporate other cultures into this (danica patrick and earnhardt Jr.) I think the songs beat is excellent and the way the lyrics are goin were good too, but it just sounded like he ran out of material. maybe he should have spent more time on the 2 and 3 verses. just a thought, but otherwise this is one of the best vids i have seen in awhile, plus the Pagani Zonda is in it. keep 'em comin Jay

Posted by: NYankee at October 27, 2006 2:47 PM

Man this vid was awsome. its tight that Jay decided to incorporate other cultures into this (danica patrick and earnhardt Jr.) I think the songs beat is excellent and the way the lyrics are goin were good too, but it just sounded like he ran out of material. maybe he should have spent more time on the 2 and 3 verses. just a thought, but otherwise this is one of the best vids i have seen in awhile, plus the Pagani Zonda is in it. keep 'em comin Jay

Posted by: NYankee at October 27, 2006 2:48 PM

wow. yes, "young ONe," i'm "fuckin gayyy" 'cause i didn't like this rote, paint-by-numbers track. actually, the fact that a clueless gimp disagrees with me is actually reassuring...

reading some of these responses, i wonder if we inhabit the same universe. i'm sure no one who criticized this track expects jay to go back to rapping about coke in the trunk or thinks "snap" music is a better alternative.

we just hate seeing jay on autopilot.

we just want jay to step it up and not waste his talent. that's the difference between this track and a track like "dirt off your shoulder."

if you can't see the difference between the two then this 'discussion' is moot.

Posted by: Konijn at October 27, 2006 4:49 PM

actually i still have to say dead presidents part one was still his best work.

Posted by: trusouth at October 27, 2006 5:43 PM

even so that time has past. you cant expect the man to STILL be talking about hustlin . come on! he is the president of defjam. it just wouldnt be believable anymore and jay realised that and went another way with this album. in a way jay set the bar so high that its hard for him to top it sometimes. hopefully the rest of the album will be better though.

Posted by: trusouth at October 27, 2006 5:51 PM

This song is the sh*t, you can't get a more upbeat exciting sound anywhere. Jay-Z is on the front lines of new sounds all the time. This is such a hit it's unbelievable.

Posted by: Scardy at October 27, 2006 9:09 PM

Fuck u niggas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I fuckin put your nuts on the dresser and bang them shits with a spiked bat, like "nigga, BOWWWW!!!!!"

Posted by: Young ONe at October 27, 2006 10:02 PM

I like this song- the Wrex n' Effect sample as well as the video- & I think that it's great that he's trying to be more racially diverse in his videos- and not just by having Rick Rubin in "99 Problems", because for all I know, Rick Rubin is Black- hehe. But yeah, I like it. Good job, Jay!

Posted by: Sarah at October 28, 2006 11:24 AM

I agree with trusouth. Rappers are obligated to change their style, and evolve throughout the years. Its not feasible for record-selling, and its childish to do the same thing you've always been doing. Rappers have an obligation to mature. The dude trusouth is right. He doesn't sell coke anymore, so why lie about it like the other 99.9 % of the rap game?!!! Maybe you just wanna hold the rap game back. Maybe you never wanna see it talk about anything more positive, and always be criticized for being about "bitches, hoes, money and drugs". If so, you're a disgrace, and calling yourself a true hip hop fan is blasphemy!

Posted by: Young ONe at October 28, 2006 3:11 PM

BTW, Konjin, if you think Jay's on autopilot, then maybe you should listen to "Kindgom Come." Everyone else has something good to say about what Jay's done. Maybe it's not Jay, maybe it's just you hatin.
To trusouth - We'll always respect what Jay did in the past, and we'll always honor Reasonable Doubt as his finest work. But like you said those days are over, and he's trying to experiment with different things, to see what else works for him. He's mastered the street shit, now he's seeing if he can master other things...

Posted by: Young ONe at October 28, 2006 3:17 PM

jiggaman hahahaha BAD....

Posted by: Hova at October 30, 2006 4:58 PM

The song is wack!!! He could have made something much better. He has been all over the world, met so many different people, experienced many different things and this is all he can give. You people accept this stuff and call it "Grown & Sexy" music. You all are nothing but followers of the mainstream. If the song does not produce anything fruitful, it is wack. He is not the "God" he claims to be and I find it disrespectful that he even says that, giving us crap like that. No one is saying that to keep it real you must talk about money and hoes. If some new rapper came out with crap like this you all would be sh*tt*n on him. Do you all listen to the lyrics? They mean nothing. You all talking about how grown he is, but I don't hear that maturity in his music. He is saying the same stuff that all these other rappers are talking about: money and sex. Case closed!!!

Posted by: Chi-City at October 31, 2006 9:50 PM

I don't understand what people are hating about this record so much. ITS HIS FIRST SINGLE OFF THE ALBUM. It's the "Change Clothes," the "H to the Izzo," or the "03 Bonnie and Clyde" of the album. It is supposed to be marketed at the general public America audience. What, did you guys expect an underground smash for a first single? You can't expect another Reasonable Doubt from this man. Its 10 years later, and he's a worldwide known celebrity. He's not gonna be talking about the same stuff as that album. (Although I have heard rumors of a "Dead Presidents III" w/ Nas, not sure if that is true though. Regardless he will have a track with Nas.)And from hearing a few other tracks of the album, it sounds like its going to be a solid Jay-Z CD, and I can't wait for this shit to drop.

Posted by: Suj at November 1, 2006 9:36 AM

The video is hot i'll admit that. you will never come across another reasonable doubt or any of a rappers greatest hits especially when there so far in the game. However, the song is just bad. I'm not a fan of the booty clapping, or disrespectful kill another man shake yo money maker bull; but Jay could've rapped about something else. Again I love the Video I especially love the music but the lyrics... that why he got out of the game cause he couldn't think of anything else. People rap about what there going through Jay is rich now all he has to talk about or show to people is how rich he is, how is that going to reach people. "When I come back like Jordan wearing the 45 it ain't to play games with you, it's aim at you, probably maim you, if i owe you i'm blowing you to smithereens" who is he blowing away with this(rap not video) and what happened to jordan?

Posted by: Malcom at November 1, 2006 11:01 AM

stop hatin on j-z cuz u r mad u cant do it like he does. i luv the fact that the women are not half naked, doin nothing but shakin ass. he is shown that women can do it 2, just as good as any man.

Posted by: jessica at November 2, 2006 2:01 PM

I understand that times and things change but it is to the point where the music is no longer real. It's all commercial. No felling or message or expression just hum drum bs you get tired of hearing after a week. not that to be real you have to rap about drugs or the ghetto or "hoes" All I'm saying is wrap about something. And with the video I mean I just get a sell out feel. Like I'ma just ride shotgun and rap while these two white folks enjoy my music and drive expensive cars. Like he wasn't even the star of his own video. And he's by himself cause he done played all the Roc label out. To me he looks lonely where is dame or free or some dam body. Like it just drew. Simply put he's catering to a new audience and it ain't me so fuck it.

Posted by: mia at November 2, 2006 5:29 PM

your right Jay is catering to a new audience and it isn't me either so like him if he still reaches you but it isn't reaching me so i just can't feel it anymore

Posted by: malcom at November 3, 2006 11:13 AM

Yo, I couldn't resist.

Let me keep it brief.

Fam, Jay is a god. The stuff that he makes now is like a promo or a catalyst for the other artists.

This may seem a little wild to y'all but in a way what he is doing is sorta Hayzeus-like.

He's kinda sacrificing himself or putting himself on the line for the other brothers on his label.

I'm sittin' back and I'm watching this unfold and thinkin that is is very admirable.

Cuz check it: say 2million people cop the Jay album and the pop the cd insert open and
and on the last page there's a picture of an album cover set in a graveyard with tombstones that read "dope beats" "fly lyrics" "beatboxing" "scratching" and a shrouded figure in a sweatsuit with a yankees fitted on kneeling laying black roses on the graves. A heading that reads "HipHop is Dead...The N" -- NAS.
That's a major promo from Jay.

Think of this project/single as an event or a promo for the label and artists that he is responsible.

Very smart.
Peace to the god.

Another thing, some people haven't caught on yet, but the message that Dame and Jay have been selling is success.

People are attracted to success.

If you've never flown in a G4 but you got the CD of the guy who has, then it's the next best thing.
Some (most) dudes live their lives like that.
Hence the fan base.

But look at this as promo for DefJam and a lightbulb will flash and you'll instantly get it.

It's beautiful when think of Jay puttin' himself out there on the frontlines first so that Nas, Ghost or some other brothers on DefJam can blow after him simply through association.


-Black People

Posted by: Black People at November 3, 2006 2:22 PM

great video. can't wait for his new album

Posted by: ian manning at November 4, 2006 11:45 AM

hey black people is that really you i thought you said jay-z is killin hip hop . what gives? people its just the first single . wait and then pass judgement .

Posted by: trusouth at November 4, 2006 9:34 PM

Yeah it's me.

Trusouth, quote me.

Show me which part I was talking about.

-Black People

Posted by: Black People at November 5, 2006 1:04 AM

and i quote "all of our people prior to the two seans would make music that was creative and provide some sort of social commentary." the 2 seans are p.diddy and jay right? diddy is garbage i agree but calling jay uncreative ... damn. it kind of sounds like you were blameing jay for the down fall of hip hop. thats all . but its what ever, every one has their own opinion and i respect them.

Posted by: trusouth at November 5, 2006 10:41 PM

H.O.V...

The King Is Back...

He came back wearing the 45...

I'm excited my favorite rapper is truthfully back...

The Jordan of rap...

I truly belive if jay ever made an album without swearing he still would be on top...

Just the way he can flow to about any beat you give him...

I mean he holds just about 30 rymes in his head...

He freestyles his raps...

What more can you ask for...

He can speak to the streets...

He can rap about deep stuff...

He can go commercial...

Rap spiritually...

Most rappers mention his name on tv and radio...

He sold Madison Square completely out...

He is a genius...

He has creatively and in a unique fashion found a way to express himself through music...

I just pray that jay uses this gift from God to lift his people and unite them all over the world, Blacks, Natives, Latinos,and Asians; we are all black going through the same struggle...

I pray that jay sees its time to wake our people up to the times we are living in...

I pray that jay some how finds a closer relationship to God and begins to rap more about what's taking place in the world today and raps more on a spiritual level...

Jay is my brother and I support him...

May God Bless him and his family...

Posted by: Jamaal at November 6, 2006 11:52 PM

I almost forgot the song was well put together...

I enjoyed the music...

I know what a great beat sounds like and that was great...

I can tell Jay in his lifetime listened to Jazz...

I enjoy jazz, smooth jazz that is...

Jay of course, his flow was in harmony with the music...

To rap it all in a nut shell...

Jay was "Born To Rap"...

Posted by: Jamaal at November 7, 2006 12:13 AM

Jay-Z's too talented in everything he does..anything the man touches turns to gold..
This is such a classic, it's unbelievable..he not only flosses the type of life he obviously worked to have today, but he also makes the effort of uniting people from all different careers..i mean he has danica patrick and dale on his video, which have nothin to do with rap, and it's just beautiful, the man's a genius..he brings together people from different points in life and races..i seriously admire jay-z..he is really a life changing person..One.

Posted by: Jason at November 7, 2006 4:16 AM

"I just pray that jay uses this gift from God to lift his people and unite them all over the world, Blacks, Natives, Latinos,and Asians; we are all black going through the same struggle..."

This is word is bond, Jamaal!

I see it happening. Cuz before he retired he did a song with the Dead Presidents.

And he deaded that separation bullshit by unifying with the god, Nas.

-Black People

Posted by: Black People at November 7, 2006 2:47 PM

maybe this isnt his best song, but the video is hot and you got to give him an "A" for the Arrogance factor.

CANT KNOCK THE HUSTLE!

Posted by: Ray at November 8, 2006 3:31 PM

Trusouth,
Are you still in here? I'll explain.

-Blitnack Pitneople

Posted by: Black People at November 10, 2006 6:02 PM

yeah im still here. what up pimpin?

Posted by: trusouth at November 10, 2006 9:25 PM

What up, Trusouth?

You were right, you caught me.

I don't know if I'm alone in this. But in the early Versace days, I always wanted Jay to really set it on some Lyrics of Fury shit. You know, like how on the end of that "So Ghetto" single when he was like "iller than O-Dog in Menace, I'm ill start to finish, I rip apart contenders..." then he start laughing and never finished the verse.

I was like damn.

But taking his career in that direction wasn't part of the grand scheme of things.

But sometimes some dudes gotta sacrifice.

Right now he's in a position to do history-changing things.

And he is.

See it hurt when I heard about him saying that he would dumb his lyrics down to double his dollars.

But in that process, he's extracted a small portion of the disposable income from a more than disposable fanbase.

And now that he has more than quaddrupled his dollars, he's in a position with some leverage.

Leverage which he is using.

Holmes appears to be good people.

But I couldn't see this before. I was all caught up in the small stuff. Like the music. But his movement is bigger than music.

Like the water campaign for 3rd world countries.

And unifying with the God Nas. He straight demonstrated an example of solidarity for Black people.

I mean, does he really need or have to make another album? No.

But he's keeping his light shining so that others can come in.

That's beautiful.

Can I dig this entertainment product that he's releasing now? Honestly?

Naw.

But do I admire, understand and love the long-term work that he is puttin' in to uplift his fam?

Fuckin' real.
Damn straight, I do.

That's what's goin down. And that's what I see when I see him resurfacing.

Overall, barring the entertainment product, it's a good thing.

It may or may not tarnish hiphop (probably not. because he's taking the stance of "I'll go and do my urban pop thing -- I'll take the heat for that. But Nas, Ghost and Jeezy, y'all keep it gutter." And he knows he don't need anything commercial as far as his career is concerned, but he looked out and put the song that everyone is waiting on [Nas&Jay on a track] featuring himself on Nas' album not his), but in the long run it will fare well for people of color.

That's what I meant, bruh.

Sometimes shit is complex.

But that's the beauty of life.

No complexity=boredom.

-Black People

Posted by: Black People at November 11, 2006 12:42 PM

thats deep ...
but isnt everyone dumbing down their lyrics ( at least in the main stream ) look at nas's new album , from the leaked tracks i heard it didnt sound like his best work. then again nas always has leaked shit and it usually never gets on the album.

Posted by: trusouth at November 11, 2006 5:39 PM

I know. You're right. Everyone's dumbing their product down.

That's the downside to this.

Dudes is dickriding Jay-Z.

He can't hold their hands.

They're trying to be like him instead of exploiting the opportunity laid before them.

So his plan and sacrifice is kinda failing.
That's why I'm trying to put it out there so dudes will catch on.

-Black People

Posted by: Black People at November 11, 2006 11:46 PM

yeah that is a shame . biggie did it differently though. he would rap at a level that if other emcee's wanted to sell they would have to step there game up. but in this day and age i dont think even if jay raised his game that would even matter. they found a way around haveing any actual skill on a mic by being gimmic rappers every last one of em! they make a dumb ass dance and then dare to call it hiphop !

Posted by: trusouth at November 12, 2006 3:59 PM

Damn.

That's a low blow bringin' Biggie up.

What the fuck is wrong with me?

How could I forget? I'm slippin.

My man told me a few years ago that it would be no Jay-Z if Biggie was alive.

And now that you point out that Biggie did it differently, I remember...

Cuz no matter what kinda pop radio shit Biggie would do, he would always have a cut on his album for hiphop heads and MCs who wanted to asses his skills.

Like "Unbelievable" and "Kick in the Door".

So that was like a message that said yeah, do your radio shit but you still gotta have some skills.

Jay-Z don't drop songs like that.

Damn.

Very good fucking point, TruSouth.

-Black People

Posted by: Black People at November 13, 2006 3:45 AM

TruSouth I believe you are the only person on these posts that really makes sense. It is an atrocitity the garnish the thought that some of the individuals on this post are simple minded, thinking that what they are saying is "politically correct" or its that deep. Jay has elevated his game. He's not just a rapper "He's a Business Man!" I saw the interview and read an article about his efforts to resolve the water issues in countries with no means to provide for themselves, I read about his efforts to assist those after Hurricane Katrina. Its not that he "dumbing" down his lyrics, he continuing a movement that even bigger than he! Its a responsibility we all have, but don't have the means to do it on such a grand scale. Look the "white folks" love em' and don't mind their kids listening and he recognizes that, so why not stay in the lime-light a little longer, because he was never really retired and retool his marketing plan! To all stay up and be easy! God Bless.

Posted by: dman at November 13, 2006 6:33 PM

thanks pimpin...
the point im trying to make though is that people like jay are good for hip hop but that he cant save hiphop.
i remember watching bet and the announcer guy was asking this dude from harlem who he thought was the greatest hiphop group of the last five years and he said franchise boys without thinking twice about it! when the music has been watered down people forget what REAL hiphop is.and they keep asking for that repetative garbage not careing what it is as long as it comes wit a gimmic

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