October 26, 2006

VH1 [Dis]Honors?

Some of our forefathers are not so happy with VH1:

VH1 Honors, Disrespecting the Pioneers? hiphopgame
"...They took it kind of Hollywood this year," agrees Jazzy Jay.

Pioneer DJ Disco Wiz is not as diplomatic. "Don't start off one year honoring four pioneers, then three and then one," he says. "The only thing you're telling me is that you're phasing us out."

VH1 may not just be phasing out Hip-Hop's pioneers on stage. This has not been the first time pioneers have had problems with getting into the event, but this year may have reached the tipping point. "We're all standing outside with our fingers up our asses waiting to get in. We shouldn't have to go through this," Joe Conzo says. "If they're doing something in the true essence of Hip-Hop, the first people you should take care of besides the honorees are the pioneers."

Apparently not all pioneers got the memo that they weren't welcome anymore. "This year was real crazy," begins Jazzy Jay. "They told DXT, 'We know who you are. The reason you didn't get any passes is because you weren't invited. How are you going to have a Hip-Hop Honors and not invite us? The first couple of years they were begging all of the pioneers to be there and be in place so it could add credibility to their function. This year you had people like Kurtis Blow, who should not have a problem at all, outside waiting to get in. Then you're watching somebody's intern from the office walk in with a laminate like they're being honored and they have clout. I thought that was an atrocity to see that happen. I had to leave people outside and tell them (VH1), 'You have people outside. You need to take care of them.' They said, 'We're trying.' I said, 'Don't try. Get these brothers and sisters in.' Sometimes the security goes overboard but it is what it is. It's like they're at this higher level now and they don't need us..."

Posted by jsmooth995 at October 26, 2006 11:44 AM

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It's fucked up, but I'd be lying if I said I was outraged. That would imply I expected better. Sadly, VH1's Hip Hop Honors only confirmed what I'd suspected all along.

Before the awards show, they were airing an episode of "Flava of Love." That alone was enough to make me flip the channel and not come back. I always been skeptical about VH1 anyway, didn't they first start out as the "adult contemporary alternative" to MTV? Please.

VH1 is nothing more than a suburban yuppie going thru a midlife crisis desperately trying to reclaim youth. The Hip Hop Honors just another botched facelift.

Posted by: kami at October 26, 2006 12:41 PM

I can't wait for 15 years from now when they honor the hiphop bloggers, so I can stand outside complaining as Tara henley accepts her award.

Posted by: Hashim at October 26, 2006 9:55 PM

Lmao at the article. The show is always starts out interesting but ultimately is a dud when you look back. Shame about the disrespect.

But Kami, dont hate on Flavor Of Love. Thats a good show.

Posted by: Eat My Shorts at October 27, 2006 4:36 AM

>>dont hate on Flavor Of Love. Thats a good show

you can't be serious

Posted by: eskay at October 27, 2006 12:30 PM

It used to be the VH1 Rock Honors until they had problems getting legends to attend. I wonder if this is the reason.

Posted by: Janine at October 27, 2006 2:20 PM

I'm going to side with "Eat My Shorts" on this. I'm pretty sick of this whole 1950s/1960s every Black person is an ambassador to the White community so be on your best behavior thing.

I find it offensive as provides implicit consent to any prejudiced person who wants to use one person to sterotype an entire group. It implies that its a reasonable conclusion to draw that black people are like that. Meanwhile, no one implies that it's reasonable to think that all white people are like Janice Dickinson, Tawny Kitaen, or Danny Bonaduce (three other vh1 reality train wrecks).

Racists are racists and a barrel full of Poitiers isn't going to change that. So I'm refusing to reverse shuck and jive (juck and shive?) as if a racist would change their mind if we all just worked hard enough.

Posted by: janine at October 27, 2006 5:38 PM

Janine,
I don't think anyone's concerned about "being on your best behavior for the whitefolks," I just genuinely don't like the show. Having to watch Black (and one or two "wannabe Black" white) women scratch each others' eyes out for the benefit of an on-again off-again crackhead and deadbeat dad is just not fun for me, and the fact that I'd have to sit through that shit in order to catch a red-carpet interview with one of the Hip Hop Honorees before the actual show is exploitative and unfair. I'm sure a lot of people would be similarly pissed if they had to sit through "So I Married a Brady Axe-Murderer With Children" or whatever the fuck before the Acadamy Awards.

Posted by: kami at October 28, 2006 5:45 PM

I hear you, but the VH1 Honors isn't quite the Academy Awards and Joan and Melissa Rivers are on for two hours, scaring the children before the Oscars.

Posted by: janine at October 31, 2006 9:30 AM

^ROTFLMAO! Good point.

Maybe I just have a problem with all these stupid awards shows. Phife said it best, "Don't need to let a statue tell me how nice I am."

Posted by: kami at October 31, 2006 9:55 AM


October 26, 2006 VH1 [Dis]Honors? Some of our forefathers are not so happy with VH1: VH1 Honors, Disrespecting the Pioneers? hiphopgame "...They took it kind of Hollywood this year," agrees Jazzy Jay. Pioneer DJ Disco Wiz is not as diplomatic. "Don't start off one year honoring four pioneers, then three and then one," he says. "The only thing you're telling me is that you're phasing us out." VH1 may not just be phasing out Hip-Hop's pioneers on stage. This has not been the first time pioneers have had problems with getting into the event, but this year may have reached the tipping point. "We're all standing outside with our fingers up our asses waiting to get in. We shouldn't have to go through this," Joe Conzo says. "If they're doing something in the true essence of Hip-Hop, the first people you should take care of besides the honorees are the pioneers." Apparently not all pioneers got the memo that they weren't welcome anymore. "This year was real crazy," begins Jazzy Jay. "They told DXT, 'We know who you are. The reason you didn't get any passes is because you weren't invited. How are you going to have a Hip-Hop Honors and not invite us? The first couple of years they were begging all of the pioneers to be there and be in place so it could add credibility to their function. This year you had people like Kurtis Blow, who should not have a problem at all, outside waiting to get in. Then you're watching somebody's intern from the office walk in with a laminate like they're being honored and they have clout. I thought that was an atrocity to see that happen. I had to leave people outside and tell them (VH1), 'You have people outside. You need to take care of them.' They said, 'We're trying.' I said, 'Don't try. Get these brothers and sisters in.' Sometimes the security goes overboard but it is what it is. It's like they're at this higher level now and they don't need us..." Posted by jsmooth995 at October 26, 2006 11:44 AM Comments It's fucked up, but I'd be lying if I said I was outraged. That would imply I expected better. Sadly, VH1's Hip Hop Honors only confirmed what I'd suspected all along. Before the awards show, they were airing an episode of "Flava of Love." That alone was enough to make me flip the channel and not come back. I always been skeptical about VH1 anyway, didn't they first start out as the "adult contemporary alternative" to MTV? Please. VH1 is nothing more than a suburban yuppie going thru a midlife crisis desperately trying to reclaim youth. The Hip Hop Honors just another botched facelift. Posted by: kami at October 26, 2006 12:41 PM I can't wait for 15 years from now when they honor the hiphop bloggers, so I can stand outside complaining as Tara henley accepts her award. Posted by: Hashim at October 26, 2006 9:55 PM Lmao at the article. The show is always starts out interesting but ultimately is a dud when you look back. Shame about the disrespect. But Kami, dont hate on Flavor Of Love. Thats a good show. Posted by: Eat My Shorts at October 27, 2006 4:36 AM >>dont hate on Flavor Of Love. Thats a good show you can't be serious Posted by: eskay at October 27, 2006 12:30 PM It used to be the VH1 Rock Honors until they had problems getting legends to attend. I wonder if this is the reason. Posted by: Janine at October 27, 2006 2:20 PM I'm going to side with "Eat My Shorts" on this. I'm pretty sick of this whole 1950s/1960s every Black person is an ambassador to the White community so be on your best behavior thing. I find it offensive as provides implicit consent to any prejudiced person who wants to use one person to sterotype an entire group. It implies that its a reasonable conclusion to draw that black people are like that. Meanwhile, no one implies that it's reasonable to think that all white people are like Janice Dickinson, Tawny Kitaen, or Danny Bonaduce (three other vh1 reality train wrecks). Racists are racists and a barrel full of Poitiers isn't going to change that. So I'm refusing to reverse shuck and jive (juck and shive?) as if a racist would change their mind if we all just worked hard enough. Posted by: janine at October 27, 2006 5:38 PM Janine, I don't think anyone's concerned about "being on your best behavior for the whitefolks," I just genuinely don't like the show. Having to watch Black (and one or two "wannabe Black" white) women scratch each others' eyes out for the benefit of an on-again off-again crackhead and deadbeat dad is just not fun for me, and the fact that I'd have to sit through that shit in order to catch a red-carpet interview with one of the Hip Hop Honorees before the actual show is exploitative and unfair. I'm sure a lot of people would be similarly pissed if they had to sit through "So I Married a Brady Axe-Murderer With Children" or whatever the fuck before the Acadamy Awards. Posted by: kami at October 28, 2006 5:45 PM I hear you, but the VH1 Honors isn't quite the Academy Awards and Joan and Melissa Rivers are on for two hours, scaring the children before the Oscars. Posted by: janine at October 31, 2006 9:30 AM ^ROTFLMAO! Good point. Maybe I just have a problem with all these stupid awards shows. Phife said it best, "Don't need to let a statue tell me how nice I am." 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