December 21, 2006

Race and the Knicks/Nuggets Fight


Our friend Dave Zirin with different take on the big throwdown:


Brawl in the Garden

In hockey, brawling has become so essential to the sport that it spawned the joke of a thousand lounge acts: "I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out." In football, Tennessee Titan Albert Haynesworth stomped his cleat on the head of Cowboys center Andre Gurode last October, and the condemnation in the court of public opinion fell solely on Haynesworth's sorry shoulders. In baseball, when Chicago Cubs catcher Michael Barrett punched A.J. Pierzynski in the mouth this summer, the benches cleared, but it merited barely a mention in the media, more punch line than punch-out.

But in basketball, a fight gets decidedly different treatment. It's debated and discussed like the 1992 Los Angeles riots--with an overcaffeinated mix of condemnation and concern. The NBA has become the spittoon for every racial anxiety aslosh in Sportsworld...

Posted by jsmooth995 at December 21, 2006 12:14 AM
Comments

Gee whiz -- it can't possibly be because it happened while memories of the Detroit-Indy fight are still so fresh, could it?

Is Zirin aware that there have been other fights in the NBA this season, which *didn't* get extensive coverage?

Posted by: Joe Grossberg at December 21, 2006 8:38 AM

I agree with your observation.

Posted by: Conscious at December 21, 2006 10:53 AM

On 880 AM I heard commentators straight up call the Knicks and Nuggets cavemen. If that aint some racist sh*t I dont know what is...

Posted by: kazembe at December 21, 2006 6:18 PM

It's funny how they need to pretend that the Garden fans were outraged, those bitches made more noise during that fight then any game since Pat Ewing stopped icing his knees. Carmelos' image was irreperably damaged, for fighting? That's some bullshit, if he said he was gay, then he might suffer some irreperable image damage but are we really pretending kids don't like fighters. Carlton Fisk punch a guy in the head and the lumpen suppposed to throw a parade like it's may day. It's gotten where a man can't even enjoy a good brawl anymore without thinking about how endlessly he's gonna have to hear bitches editorialize about it. For a nation fighting wars on like six different fronts we sure gotta hear a lot of pussy shit.

Posted by: JohnnyUnitus at December 21, 2006 8:08 PM

yeah zirin was on point .. his book is sraight too .. but yeah these folks are comparing it to the det-ind joint which was much more severe .. also knicks have had bigger brawls in the past ( remember van gundy hangin off of zo's legs lol ) .. this "brawl" only had one punch landing lol and its a brawl

Posted by: dolo at December 21, 2006 8:55 PM

There's NO DOUBT that racism STILL plays a prominent role in ANYTHING that happens in the NBA. Since the league is about 70% BLACK these days, the "people in charge" (including commissioner David Stern) would love to do anything that amounted to "keeping us all in our places".

In other words, we're paid to just be seen (to produce for the league) and not heard (don't ever speak out against anything unjust).

I'm sure that if Carmelo Anthony, J.R. Smith, and Nate Robinson (who all got suspensions of 10-15 games each) were white, their "unpaid banishments" would've been less severe.

Posted by: Dar'ryx-Jaheim at December 22, 2006 6:24 AM

There's NO DOUBT that racism STILL plays a prominent role in ANYTHING that happens in the NBA. Since the league is about 70% BLACK these days, the "people in charge" (including commissioner David Stern) would love to do anything that amounted to "keeping us all in our places".

In other words, we're paid to just be seen (to produce for the league) and not heard (don't ever speak out against anything unjust).

I'm sure that if Carmelo Anthony, J.R. Smith, and Nate Robinson (who all got suspensions of 10-15 games each) were white, their "unpaid banishments" would've been less severe.

Posted by: Dar'ryx-Jaheim at December 22, 2006 6:25 AM

im sick of this ! ! its fucking basketball people not boxing! usually i can see why people think its raceist ... but this is just stupid ! you dont hit people in basketball with sucker punches!
and to all those jesse jackson niggas out there thats not black on black violence thats just some over paid sore losers that cant win a game if their life depended on it.

Posted by: trusouth at December 22, 2006 2:25 PM

Somebody tell the NBA that with the score tied with 20 seconds left dribbling the ball at the top of the key and throwing up a 30 foot jumper with 2 seconds left is not a play. Stop wasting timeouts just to come up with some dumb shit and call it a play. NBA promotes stupid, but the coaches all wear suits and fold their hands like Pat RIley so it seems smart.
Big Up Pat Riley.
Free Ron Artest.

Posted by: JohnnyUnitus at December 23, 2006 11:09 PM

We have just lost The Godfather.

R.I.P. JB

Love you forever.

-Black People

Posted by: Black People at December 25, 2006 3:32 AM

[comment edited. please stop spamming.]

Posted by: "THAT MEANS IT'S BAD FOR YOU!!!" at December 25, 2006 5:23 PM

No offense THAT MEANS.. but if I wanted to read your blog I would have gone to your page. Also, and this is rather inportant, your smug attitude of knowing it all suggest that you think yourself a member of a "favored" race. i would think that "the gods" would want you to make the world a better place and that since you have not made any true sugguests towards fixing the problem short of pointing and saying what it wrong. It's more than likely you that is out of favor because YOUR HERE WITH US.

Posted by: Belve at December 26, 2006 4:05 AM

Don't encourage, Belve.

(I feel a shitstorm brewing)

-Black People

Posted by: Black People at December 26, 2006 11:51 AM

Did I miss the part about how the God's felt about the Nuggets susepnsion?

Posted by: JohnnyUnitus at December 26, 2006 4:36 PM

has anyone else noticed that all these discussions end with race recently? i mean this one IS about race but still.

Posted by: trusouth at December 26, 2006 6:43 PM

There's NO DOUBT that racism STILL plays a prominent role in ANYTHING that happens in the NBA. Since the league is about 70% BLACK these days, the "people in charge" (including commissioner David Stern) would love to do anything that amounted to "keeping us all in our places".

Posted by: John at December 27, 2006 7:34 PM

Well, I'd just like to disagree with that comment about keeping people in their place, the National Basketball Association has a certain image, it's teams, it's players and it's various franchises would like to project. When you see that the Lakers and the Heat get prime time viewing on Christmas Day, when the whole free world is gathered together watching the American Broadcasting Company owned by the Walt Disney company on the day of Jesus' birth there's a certain image the NBA would like to project...The only people the NBA is trying to keep in their places is the fans, that's why they break out those ridiculous reading commercials with Shaquille O'Neal reading The Locomotive that didn't sell out. No hard rock gangster kid's going to read about The Locomotive that didn't sell out, and the NBA knows that, the NBA equates books with adolescent mental adventurism instead of saying, Bam, here's Clausewitz on war, Bam here's how you fix your sink and the washing machine in the basement, Bam, get things done. Talk about double standard, look at the NFL, consider how head coaches get treated after they dump their offensive coordinators in front of the press compared to how T.O. gets treated. What do the Gods have to say about that?

Posted by: David Stern at December 29, 2006 4:50 AM

I understood nothing the above David Stern had to say short of the fact that the NBA has an image it wants to protect.

Umm Ok.

The NBA gets more attention, this is my opinion, not so much because of race but more so because how the league is marketed with the players being more of the focus than the teams that they are playing on at the time.

p.s. Jay next time I lose it and comment on lunacy, feel free to delete my comments also.

Posted by: Belve at December 29, 2006 7:36 AM

hasnt been anything new on here for a while....

Posted by: trusouth at January 9, 2007 6:55 PM

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