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June 27, 2007Rap & Country: More Alike Than I'm Willing To Admit...![]() Kelefa Sanneh’s article ‘It Takes a Tough Man to Tell a Bad Joke’ contrasts the serious attitudes of most rock stars with country singers who are more than willing to joke around: “While rock stars often try their best to make audiences forget they are professional entertainers, country singers have often been happy to celebrate the fact.” (23). Sanneh invokes Brad Paisley’s love-song ‘Ticks’ (“I’d like to check you for ticks”) and Toby Keith’s ‘High Maintenance Woman’ containing the chorus “A high-maintenance woman don’t want no high-maintenance man” (1). I know, I know… this isn’t www.war-mongeringcrackermusic.com, it’s www.hiphopmusic.com but bear with me… First, the article is relevant to rap in that continues Sanneh’s assault against rockism. Second, although Sanneh never “goes there”, the attitudes and description of country music’s “freedom to mix the sublime and the ridiculous, in the interests of putting on a good show” could easily be said of hip-hop (23). Although hardly the article’s intention, it moved me to arrive at an ugly truth I’m not totally sure I can confront: rap and country music have a lot in common. I’ll begin with Sanneh’s focus: humor. Rap, like country music, has a tendency to never take itself entirely seriously. Be it “the chicken tastes like wood”, Slick Rick, the serious-goofiness of the Native Tongues, or Wu Tang’s “torture skits”; even the over-the-top conspicuous consumption of the Bad Boy era contains an ironic, knowing quality. To outsiders and even many insiders as of late, ‘Party Like a Rock Star,’ hyphy, or whatever, is evidence to stop (or never begin) taking hip-hop seriously, however, it is the lifeblood of the genre to never get too serious; to always work within contradiction and conflict. Rock music from its “inception”, was indeed, fun and rowdy but it was rarely as out-there as rap or country music's origins. Again, Sanneh: "...Johnny Cash carefully cultivated his man-in-black image, but he was also an incorrigible ham; the famous ‘Johnny Cash at Folsom Prison’ album includes not only ‘Folsom Prison Blues’ and ‘I Still Miss Someone’ but also novelty songs like ‘Flushed From the Bathroom of Your Heart’ and ‘Dirty Old Egg-Sucking Dog.’ In an odd way singing a funny song can be a way of projecting both confidence (because you’re not afraid to sound like a lightweight) and humility (because you’re not too proud to do it)." (23) So, the guy who sang “I shot a man just to watch him die” about as rap-nihilistic as you can get, the guy who wore black to be in-constant memoriam for the incarcerated, also made poop jokes! This kind of persona, always in-flux, never stable, could be applied to a rapper like Ghostface or Devin the Dude and even, to the MTV-popular personas of Kanye West and Ludacris. Country and rap music occupy a similarly odd place in popular culture. They are the two most digested forms of popular music, yet they have not entirely (entirely!) lost their edge or impenetrability. A few months ago, Rich Boy had one of the biggest singles in the country, but outside of certain demographics, he probably could not be named or identified. I’ve heard the names Brad Paisley and Keith Urban but I certainly couldn't pick them out of a line-up. I only know Toby Keith because his pro-war anthems are so egregious and his persona of “white-trash with money” is so bizarre, but if you think about it, not that much more bizarre than a hit song, based on a Switch sample, about the minor-victory of getting rims, containing the line “every freak should have a picture of my dick on their wall”! Both genres have found a way to enter the mainstream without being entirely watered-down and compromised. I know ‘Throw Some Ds’ isn’t ‘Fight the Power’ but still, isn’t it a little odd to think of this stuff as being incredibly popular? Both genres are still, despite their insane popularity, oddly ostracized. It still isn’t exactly “cool” to be a big fan of country or rap music. If you’re a huge country music fan, you get the same looks as if you’re really into pro-wrestling. Occasionally, I still fall into a situation where someone I don’t know well, gets into my car, and rap is playing and I get that scrunched-up face that cuntily conveys “I didn’t know YOU listen to RAP”… When its party time, many choose to “get crunk” to 50 Cent and they might sip a Corona and listen to Alan Jackson but when they need music that speaks to their hearts they will reach for ever-dependable rock n’roll. Rap and country are novelty to most. The two genres most associated with disenfranchised groups are also the genres that have not been fully embraced, almost in spite of their popularity. Rap and country continue to be the butt of jokes just about everywhere. The semi-marginalization of rap and country gives them a strange connection to corporate interests, as they are both encouraged and damaged by the relationship. The major labels use and abuse the genres for profit, never allowing the genre its proper respectability. At the same time, this precarious balance keeps the music alive because it is constantly occupying some weird middle-ground between above-ground respectability and underground appeal, never sure where it truly lies. Only in the world of country music could such radically conservative views be espoused and only in rap music would an artist as big as Young Jeezy talk explicitly about drug-dealing (for better or worse...). Despite my utopian ideas of the disparate genres being so closely connected, there are some significant differences. Perhaps you’ve seen the video for Toby Keith’s ‘A Little Too Late’? I bring this up because it highlights the differences between the humor and attitudes of rap and country music. In the video, as he sings to an old flame, Toby builds a brick wall around the flame, vindictively trapping her in a dark basement. Toby Keith has a certain, ‘Rap-A-Lot’-esque stance towards misogyny, throwing in a healthy dose of humor, honesty, and irony when it comes to well, mistreating women, but in the end, he cops-out in a way that Scarface rarely will. Tobes covers his ass by pulling the ol’ switcheroo, making the joke on him: he accidentally built the brick wall around himself! Hilarious? In numerous rap songs, the joke is “I’m saying some outrageous but honest shit”. Keith chooses to make that joke (“I’m trapping a woman in my basement!”) and then go-back on it, ostensibly getting-away with the joke without accepting its full implications. Country music, even when it is radical, ultimately goes back to maintaining the status-quo. Although the music tries to maintain the status quo on one’s own terms (if that’s even possible) it is maintained nonetheless. Rap, even at its most mainstream, instills a sense of anger or pride or righteous indignation in its listeners; country music ultimately brews complacency and mediocrity. My rap-bias may be getting in the way here. Many would rightfully argue that rap, significantly more than country, breeds complacency in its ever-constant quest for riches and bitches. That other ever-present critique of rap, the half-true cliché that most rappers’ “street cred” is questionable, also applies to recent country singers further bounding the genres together. When Brad Paisley invokes the action of lovingly removing ticks from his significant other, he’s invoking a hillbilly gesture I doubt he’s ever directly experienced. Paisley’s uh, farm cred (?) seems equally questionable as rappers street cred. Furthermore, it seems like even more of a manipulation of his audience. Yeah, you have wealthy kids of all races acting hard and glamorizing the life of the streets but you have 40-year olds that define themselves by the attitudes of country music. Professionals drive S.U.Vs with “white trash” bumper-stickers; the comedians of the ‘Blue Collar Comedy Tour’ are not blue-collar. Most people relating to Gretchen Wilson’s ‘Redneck Woman’ are not redneck women but they are damn sure to invoke or attempt to invoke their redneck-ness when convenient. Very few people laugh these people off or mock them the way the “inauthentic” rap fan or musician is mocked. The primary reason for the lack of criticism towards country music relates to this advertising of complacency. Even the dumbest of rap songs invoke or attempt to invoke ideas of expression and personal freedom. Country music is not a threat because it ultimately, despite its rebel-yell theatrics, tells its audience to attain to mediocrity. As I type this, I immediately think of crack-rap which too asserts complacency but that still feels rooted in, however questionable, a dissatisfaction with the normal, ‘Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue’? Not so much… -Sanneh, Kelefa. “It Takes a Tough Man To Tell a Bad Joke.” ‘New York Times’ 24 Jun. 2007: AR 1+. Comments
nice one. you could also bring in the interest in authenticity; the tendency towards leftist or right-wing politics (rock being pretty straightforwardly liberal); the foregrounding of religion; the murder ballads.... they're both from folk traditions, rather than from middle class white teens in their parents' garages, after all. Posted by: Ass Hat at June 27, 2007 5:46 PM huh .... in depth Posted by: trusouth at June 28, 2007 1:20 AM >but hip hop was born as a culture that had music involved with it If anything, country takes the throne on this one - country "culture" dates back more than a century, and what we now know as country music dates back to the '30s. We talk about hip hop as a lifestyle or a culture, but being a dirt farmer in Appalachia is way more of a lifestyle than wearing a malcolm X hat and working at Applebees. Not to say that there aren't plenty of style biters on both sides.
It's all relative, but Willie Nelson is pretty buckwild politically. His label made him take a pot leaf off an album of reggae covers, etc. Posted by: sleepnotwork at June 28, 2007 2:31 PM In about five minutes, the beef in here is about to be on. And I'm staying out of it. -Black People (besides, he mentioned country vs. rap. and he cited a lot of the suckas that's current right now. he ain't say country vs. HipHop) Posted by: Black People at June 28, 2007 3:11 PM In about five minutes, the beef in here is about to be on. And I'm staying out of it. -Black People (besides, he mentioned country vs. rap. and he cited a lot of the suckas that's current right now. he ain't say country vs. HipHop) Posted by: Black People at June 28, 2007 3:18 PM Go in, BP, go in! Posted by: Jay Smooth at June 28, 2007 6:39 PM Go in, BP, go in! Posted by: Jay Smooth at June 28, 2007 6:56 PM having an informed opinion on this topic would require that I actually listen to country music. which i don't. that said, i do appreciate the analytical approach here. Posted by: eric at June 28, 2007 7:20 PM Isn't 'country' music just code for white people, with guitars, but then you have that new style, guy with a shirt tucked in and a cowboy hat with an electronic beat. So, it seems, country music is just code for white people. Rock is code for co opted white people music, writing like these terms have any real meaning without going musician by musician is like writing an essay comparing and contrasting the different aisles in the drug store Posted by: JohnnyUnitus at June 28, 2007 9:18 PM Isn't 'country' music just code for white people, with guitars, but then you have that new style, guy with a shirt tucked in and a cowboy hat with an electronic beat. So, it seems, country music is just code for white people. Rock is code for co opted white people music, writing like these terms have any real meaning without going musician by musician is like writing an essay comparing and contrasting the different aisles in the drug store Posted by: JohnnyUnitus at June 28, 2007 9:18 PM Isn't 'country' music just code for white people, with guitars, but then you have that new style, guy with a shirt tucked in and a cowboy hat with an electronic beat. So, it seems, country music is just code for white people. Rock is code for co opted white people music, writing like these terms have any real meaning without going musician by musician is like writing an essay comparing and contrasting the different aisles in the drug store Posted by: JohnnyUnitus at June 28, 2007 9:19 PM Sorry. Posted by: JohnnyUnitus at June 28, 2007 9:24 PM At Smooth's instigation... I'll do more tomorrow but for now sometimes when I listen to country music it does hit me like a white soul music of sorts (not like the righteous brothers. that is soul. just happens to be sung by white guys). but this column is comparing country music to the more current shock content of urban pop that has been made within the last ten years when sean's number 1 and 2 made fools out of their people. in this same time because the music of black people has become less militant and conscious (sp?) and more party oriented and irresponsible, some white folks have decided to suddenly do us a a "favor" and lend us an ear. how nice. Now whereas back in the day, the creative dudes and artists from the hood became the hiphop recording artists, we now have the hustlers from around the way that have become the hiphop "artists". and they'll say anything to turn a buck. before it was taboo to say wild shit on the mic in heavy doses. If you don't remeber when NWA (Niggaz With Attitudes) first came out, that name along with those songs were a little shocking to the hiphop head. nobody was makin songs that were that explicit at that time. Cuz like Ahearn noted in the audio clip, hiphop music was kinda like an escape coupled with a message about hope and awareness (NWA still repped just a little more vulgar though). Black music was also cool. Like everything people of color invented or had something to do with. Sorta like Mike Tyson before they trapped him. The music that this article is referencing is not Melle Mel' The Message or KRS' My Philosphy so technically -- Don't get me started, Smoove. When I come in I come in. -Black People Posted by: Black People at June 28, 2007 10:20 PM sooo.... willy nelson and p.e. are kinda the same? Posted by: trusouth at June 29, 2007 12:41 AM but then again hip hop always seems to contradict itself somehow. Posted by: trusouth at June 29, 2007 12:49 AM Hello, thanks for all of the responses; its encouraging for my first article here at hiphopmusic.com. My main comparison was between the current, mainstream form of country and rap both of which are, in many ways, bastardized versions of the genre from eras gone by. Still, I found some relevant and interesting things to address. Primarily the way the genres aren't as political or progressive as they once were but still are doing something weird/different from corporate rock n' roll. If rap has suffered a fall recently, try your best to imagine being a country historian. Country music has gone from being essentially classic liberal-democrat music of the 50s and 60s to the right-wing, war-mongering it is today. It went incredibly corporate in the 70s and except for a brief spot in the 90s, has for the most part, been on a decline. I tried to suggest that the shift has something to do with corporate interest which has chosen to push country music singers that push complacency. Dunno who its even by, but there's a country song that my white-trash cousin is always singing, "I'm alright, you're okay/I'm gonna live for another day." To release this song in the past few years, with the Republican manipulation of so-called "Red States" is downright horrifying. The song is implicitly telling its country fans, most of whom are working-class, "don't worry about high gas prices, don't worry about no tax breaks...you'll be okay, you'll keep living..." Wow. Rap has its own complacency-pushing through crack-rap, money-making, and girl-getting but I guess what I was moving towards was, somehow, for me there's still a subtle difference between Toby Keith and Rich Boy; what that is exactly, I'm not sure... Posted by: brandonsoderberg at June 29, 2007 1:54 PM Brandon, welcome. I ain't really tryin fuck wif you or stir anything up. But Smoove started it. I was just tryin' to chill in the cut. You know what I'm sayin'? So again, welcome. -Blitnack Pitneople Posted by: Black People at June 29, 2007 2:05 PM Toby Keith’s ‘High Maintenance Woman’ containing the chorus “A high-maintenance woman don’t want no high-maintenance man”
Posted by: Janice at July 26, 2007 8:58 AM
I love this dudes grind! and hes from Indiana, im callin it now, his run is here and its gonna be crazy. I was in Atlanta for one of his shows and he killed it, best show ive seen in years. finally the game can breath! go 2 his myspace and see 4 yourself. www.myspace.com/jaeellis and no im not getting paid 2 do this... just a fan of real rap. later Posted by: eric at August 3, 2007 12:37 AM “I shot a man just to watch him die” its not that is "i shot a man in reno just to watch him die" if youre gonna quote something quote it right. Posted by: bdo at August 23, 2007 10:42 AM |
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