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October 27, 2007Nicky Barnes Speaks on Camron and SnitchingThe whole New York mag interview with Frank Lucas and Nicky Barnes is a must-read, but I enjoyed this passage especially: ...I saw this show on CNN, with Anderson Cooper. Cats were talking about “Don’t snitch, no matter what happens.” Well, I can’t see how a guy can be considered strong if he lets a bunch of assholes walk all over him and he doesn’t respond, just because of some code that a bunch of idiots have cooked up. Anderson Cooper asked this rapper, “Suppose a child was molested and you knew who this molester was. Would you tell the police?” He said, “No.” So that’s what I’m sayin’—the street guidelines are just moron bullshit.Posted by jsmooth995 at October 27, 2007 6:24 PM Comments
Just read the article...it's good to see some real talk on this issue... Posted by: Akin at October 28, 2007 12:53 AM Jay: You forgot the best part! MJ: Did you ever think there’d be this whole hip-hop thing? You guys are both mentioned in a million rap songs. FL: Call them songs? When I came along, we had singing. They might make up songs about me, but I don’t have to like them. MJ: What about you, Nick? You’re like a hip-hop folk hero. NB: I never thought anything like this would happen. When hip-hop first started, everybody—I mean the music entrepreneurs—predicted that hip-hop would be dead in five years. They said, “Those motherfuckers ain’t gonna make no money.” But hip-hop rolled along, and look what they’re doing now. They got Jay-Z, Damon Dash, Kanye West, 50 Cent. These guys are doing something legitimate. FL: At least Nick knows the names. I don’t know none of them. I know Puffy Combs, because of his father. NB: Oh, Melvin! Melvin Combs. FL: Melvin used to be at my house a couple of times a week. I’m proud to see Melvin’s son like that. (Wwwwwow!) Posted by: Daniel at October 28, 2007 10:34 AM Puffy is a made man. Posted by: Eat My Shorts at October 29, 2007 4:39 AM Nicky Barnes: When I realized they left me on the battlefield to die, I said, “Fuck it!” … I said, “I’ll pull those motherfuckers in, let them see what it’s like.” I would rather be out here in the witness program than to be in jail with them. Why would I wanna be in there with them kinda niggers? I don’t regret it. I saw this show on CNN, with Anderson Cooper. Cats were talking about “Don’t snitch, no matter what happens.” Well, I can’t see how a guy can be considered strong if he lets a bunch of assholes walk all over him and he doesn’t respond, just because of some code that a bunch of idiots have cooked up. Anderson Cooper asked this rapper, “Suppose a child was molested and you knew who this molester was. Would you tell the police?” He said, “No.” So that’s what I’m sayin’—the street guidelines are just moron bullshit. Posted by: Hi, I'm Rags at October 29, 2007 2:03 PM Camron is an idiot, but Nicky Barnes and Frank Lucas are far from the characters to talk. You had real black og's like Lil Melvin from B-More that stood by his word. Real men don't shit on their word merely because they are betrayed. On top of the fact that people like Nicky Barnes did not even believe in the life he was leading enough to stay true to it. So what if everyone left you hanging? You are supposed to be the boss. "Mr. Untouchable" right? They brought him down like a dumb regular old nigger. Frank Lucas was sharp on the streets but he was dumb as well. He could have easily bought land in Puerto Rico somewhere grew acres of good dope and supplied the entire United States through his Mafia connections. Instead he ended up thinking like a regular old Harlem Nigger, wanted to be hands on with everything, stayed there, and got busted there. What is there to idolize about them as they wax poetically? They put these movies out on purpose. Spike had to draw blood to do the Malcolm X movie. We still don't have a movie on Marcus Garvey, or the Black Panther Party. But white directors love to get an old snitching ass "Black Gangster" to do a movie on. I don't like those racist Italians either but you don't think John Gotti could have rolled on everyone even after Sammy the Bull snitched on him? Yeah the street guidelines are a joke because when you have so-called bosses and kingpins singing it completely undermines whatever so-called organizations they represented. If you order hits, kill millions of black people through dope, are we supposed to applaud you now for saying "the street guidelines are moronic?" The problem is the kids are naive these days. Nicky Barnes and Frank Lucas are just trying to justify being snitches. If you are going to talk about Black Gangsters, there are plenty of real black gangsters that will go unnoticed because they didn't live in New York Streetweyz SaylesPosted by: Streetweyez Sayles at November 1, 2007 11:27 PM nicky barnes is a coward snitch. i believe in the street code and if there was a rapist or serial killer in my hood i wouldnt call the police either instead a real street coded gangsta would have him missing and never found like a bitch ass snitch such as nicky barnes Posted by: hoodlover at November 3, 2007 3:39 PM AMEN hoodlover. Posted by: stopfrontinmovement at November 4, 2007 10:10 PM AMEN hoodlover. Posted by: stopfrontinmovement at November 4, 2007 10:11 PM they made a black panther movie. Posted by: asdasd at November 7, 2007 10:01 AM they made a black panther movie. Posted by: asdasd at November 7, 2007 10:03 AM they made a black panther movie. Posted by: asdasd at November 7, 2007 10:03 AM It's hard for me to believe that the same people who dedicate their lived to an idea of ghetto vengeance sit around posting comments about it on blogs! This is my real problem with this idea - that it's a fantasy, and an unhealthy one. Posted by: Hi, I'm Rags at November 8, 2007 11:36 PM I seen both the movie American Gangster and the documentary Mr. Untouchable and I enjoyed them both. However these men during their time contributed to the distruction of their own people for temporary riches that either no longer have. Now they are known as glorified snitches! My personal view point on this subject matter is that their are no code of ethics on the streets. Thus that "stop snitching" slogan is powerless; because these men motives were always self centered. Neither man ever cared about the people the hurt with that poison or the people they've told on, it was all about their well being. Posted by: mark at November 17, 2007 8:47 PM The 'American Gangster' movie was cool although it was laced with lies...Nicky wasn't Superfly but a cool dude who wasn't to be messed with I was out of Noel crew whom he had his tongue cut out because he spoke his mind he was from 116th Street and Manhattan ave but also knew Frank Lucas through my uncle 'Bumpy' and 'JJ' my dad was New York Raggs as he was called and hung with Zack Robinson and Pete McDoggle who owned Smalls Paradise back then...Frank was just country and his biggest thing was paying for everyones drinks or food as long as he was in a bar or resturant. Posted by: Tony Champayne at November 29, 2007 10:57 PM Who was this rapper guy in the Anderson Cooper interview who said that he would not tell the police if he know someone molested a child? Posted by: nuggets at December 4, 2007 11:04 PM nicky barnes is right, 1 because the nigga types turned on hin first, and 2 it's every man for himself when shit gets tight. he put them niggas on, and they crossed him, and he did what he wanted, them niggas lucky he was not onthe streets to handle that,because they would be dead instead of in jail. when u in the street game most niggas are dead broke, and when someone like nicky comes along and turn suckas on to some real change thats what happens. hey nicky, "fuck them niggas", and live ur life with your head up. Posted by: thousands at December 14, 2007 12:38 PM these two dumb, greedy bastards killed more blacks than the KKK. yet black folk treat them like heroes! now you know why whites don't want to hire, or live with you,ll. honest black folk caught in the middle by you jerks, and suffer yet because of your avarice. God have mercy, especially on the innocent victims! Posted by: mark9257 at January 2, 2008 1:36 AM Hey check this out some niggas look to these men as legends because they achevied the ultimate hood dream of being a self-made man. No boundaries I dont know about you killers but the thought of being able to do what I want at any given moment is just amazing they were idealist who took a product and made it do what it do; bad thing is this product has ruined lives; Well depends on how one looks at the situation another different product has destroyed lives maybe just as much as dope TOBBACCO. Now what makes this product different from the other simple enough the goverment makes money on it the contributions to campaigns the fuel of the REPUBLICAN PARTY is PHILLIP MORRIS I mean come on have ever wondered where the goverment gets their bud from for supposely medical reasons you think its the old dank from drug seizures now if u believe that than you're truly square and deserve to be shot I Don't mean to sound like I'm rambling but my point is this world was built on the hustle the fact someone had an idea an acted opon legal or not last I checked smoking dope, ciggarettes, and what ever else one craves is the true act of choice these people say Frank and Nicky were wrong probably because they lost someone to the game I too lost someone I didn't blame the game or the dealer I blamed the user...;)HOOD NIGGA Posted by: M. SPEED at January 23, 2008 3:26 PM Hey check this out some niggas look to these men as legends because they achevied the ultimate hood dream of being a self-made man. No boundaries I dont know about you killers but the thought of being able to do what I want at any given moment is just amazing they were idealist who took a product and made it do what it do; bad thing is this product has ruined lives; Well depends on how one looks at the situation another different product has destroyed lives maybe just as much as dope TOBBACCO. Now what makes this product different from the other simple enough the goverment makes money on it the contributions to campaigns the fuel of the REPUBLICAN PARTY is PHILLIP MORRIS I mean come on have ever wondered where the goverment gets their bud from for supposely medical reasons you think its the old dank from drug seizures now if u believe that than you're truly square and deserve to be shot I Don't mean to sound like I'm rambling but my point is this world was built on the hustle the fact someone had an idea an acted opon legal or not last I checked smoking dope, ciggarettes, and what ever else one craves is the true act of choice these people say Frank and Nicky were wrong probably because they lost someone to the game I too lost someone I didn't blame the game or the dealer I blamed the user...;)HOOD NIGGA Posted by: M. SPEED at January 23, 2008 3:26 PM Hey check this out some niggas look to these men as legends because they achevied the ultimate hood dream of being a self-made man. No boundaries I dont know about you killers but the thought of being able to do what I want at any given moment is just amazing they were idealist who took a product and made it do what it do; bad thing is this product has ruined lives; Well depends on how one looks at the situation another different product has destroyed lives maybe just as much as dope TOBBACCO. Now what makes this product different from the other simple enough the goverment makes money on it the contributions to campaigns the fuel of the REPUBLICAN PARTY is PHILLIP MORRIS I mean come on have ever wondered where the goverment gets their bud from for supposely medical reasons you think its the old dank from drug seizures now if u believe that than you're truly square and deserve to be shot I Don't mean to sound like I'm rambling but my point is this world was built on the hustle the fact someone had an idea an acted opon legal or not last I checked smoking dope, ciggarettes, and what ever else one craves is the true act of choice these people say Frank and Nicky were wrong probably because they lost someone to the game I too lost someone I didn't blame the game or the dealer I blamed the user...;)HOOD NIGGA Posted by: M. SPEED at January 23, 2008 3:29 PM Hey check this out some niggas look to these men as legends because they achevied the ultimate hood dream of being a self-made man. No boundaries I dont know about you killers but the thought of being able to do what I want at any given moment is just amazing they were idealist who took a product and made it do what it do; bad thing is this product has ruined lives; Well depends on how one looks at the situation another different product has destroyed lives maybe just as much as dope TOBBACCO. Now what makes this product different from the other simple enough the goverment makes money on it the contributions to campaigns the fuel of the REPUBLICAN PARTY is PHILLIP MORRIS I mean come on have ever wondered where the goverment gets their bud from for supposely medical reasons you think its the old dank from drug seizures now if u believe that than you're truly square and deserve to be shot I Don't mean to sound like I'm rambling but my point is this world was built on the hustle the fact someone had an idea an acted opon legal or not last I checked smoking dope, ciggarettes, and what ever else one craves is the true act of choice these people say Frank and Nicky were wrong probably because they lost someone to the game I too lost someone I didn't blame the game or the dealer I blamed the user...;)HOOD NIGGA Posted by: M. SPEED at January 23, 2008 3:30 PM |
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