May 09, 2003

Suge Knight's Selective Thuggery

Here is a letter I sent in response to this piece in today's Orange County Register:

From: Jay Smooth To: 'bwener@ocregister.com' Subject: Snoop and Suge Knight

I enjoyed your piece today about the Biggie and Tupac documentary. But how could you say that Snoop is "terrified" of Suge Knight? He has been by far the most courageous member of the hip-hop community in publicly standing up to Suge and calling him out for the disgrace that he is. Take these lyrics from "Pimp Slapp'd", the track devoted to Suge on his latest album:

>Your only gain is to try to get me to fall down to your level
>Man you worser than them devils
>A lotta niggas should've said it, f**k em
>But I'ma say it for em, stop it, pop it, rewind and play it for em
>This nigga's a bitch like his wife
>Suge Knight's a bitch, and that's on my life
>And I'ma let the whole world see
>Cos you f**ked up the industry, and that's on me

These hardly strike me as the words of a terrified man. I liked your piece otherwise, but I think Snoop deserves more credit than you gave him.

Especially since he's far more likely to face retribution than Nick Broomfield. Suge has usually shown an awareness that he's more likely to get away with his thuggery if he keeps it within the Hip-Hop community. As documented in Ronin Ro's book "Have Gun Will Travel", when conflict started in Death Row's offices, the intended victim would often try to escape by fleeing to "the white section" of Interscope's office, where Suge's crew was reluctant to get their thug on.

One of the few times they did cross that line was their assault on Steven Cantrock, of the accounting firm Coopers & Lybrand. Cantrock and his associates then showed Death Row the difference between chess and checkers, when they went to federal agents with details of Suge's financial dealings, and helped bring about his downfall.

-Jay Smooth, WBAI

Posted by jsmooth995 at May 9, 2003 04:26 PM
Comments

Good letter. Though before "Pimp Slap" I really thought Snoop was punking out too. And by the way...have ya'll heard the first diss song he made called "F##k Suge Knight"?

Posted by: Madison at May 9, 2003 05:30 PM

Only reason snoops talkin shit is cuz suge's locked, if suge didn't catch a case it'd be a different story. remember without suge there wouldn't be a snoop, he'd be servin life gettin it doggystyle for real. let's keep it real suge would whoop snoops ass like the bitch he is.

Posted by: bigmel at September 10, 2003 02:08 AM

Suge knows wat he did..crooked LA Police know wat they did.. "THE SETUP", give it few more years you'll have your hit men.

Rip Pac n Big

Posted by: dgdsgsd at February 7, 2004 12:17 AM

how can i meet suge knight sexy ass

Posted by: kim at April 23, 2004 02:24 PM

Let me explain something to everybody here. Suge is the Don or the Boss or the top Dog period. and no mater what, or how many years or who died or who got locked up or who is even on another label(big shout to the outlawz nuttin but love)aint no way Death Row or Tha Row can be faded. They started this gangsta stuff and they better get all the thanks that they deserve. cuz I'M A RIDER FOR REAL AND IM LIKE RADIO RAHEEM IN THE MOVIE DO THE RIGHT THING WHEN BUGGIN OUT ASKED HIM WHY HE DIDNT LISTEN TO ANY THING BESIDES PUBLIC ENEMY AND HE SAID CAUSE I DONT LIKE NOTHIN ELSE. WELL I'M LIKE THAT TOO I RIDE WITH DRE AND SNOOP BECAUSE THEY STARTED WITH DEATHROW AND THEY STILL GOT THE DEATHROW SOUND BUT IF IT AINT KURUPT OR MY NIGGA EASTWOOD OR CROOKED OR BIG SUGE AFFILIATED I DONT LIKE NOTHIN ELSE. G'S UP HOES DOWN 4-LIFE.

Posted by: norv- ice at May 12, 2004 12:40 PM

Come on. Even if Suge is locked up. Snoop punked his ass.
And suge probly wont do Shit. Because snopp can hand Suge his fat ass any day. Snoop may look small but that man can Fight. And even if snopp is locked up that dont matter Snoop still chumped him. Aint nuttin anyone can say.The man chumped him. BAD

Posted by: Haha at June 22, 2004 01:48 AM

in response to "Come on. Even if Suge is locked up. Snoop punked his ass.
And suge probly wont do Shit. Because snopp can hand Suge his fat ass any day. Snoop may look small but that man can Fight. And even if snopp is locked up that dont matter Snoop still chumped him. Aint nuttin anyone can say.The man chumped him. BAD" from "haha"

stop smokin CRACK! playa, snoop might win if he bust shoots on suge but if they scrappin it ain't gone happin! keep it real. love'em or hate'em!

Posted by: G at July 6, 2004 08:46 PM

suge and snoop are both THE men no one of them are punks the real punk is dre w/ his lipstick wearin ass

Posted by: tiki at July 8, 2004 08:31 PM

can i meet marion knight

Posted by: kim at August 25, 2004 10:05 PM

Suge Knight is a murdering bastard and if you want to meet him you have problems!!!! If he didn't kill 2pac, then he knows who did. Either way, he's an asshole.

Posted by: shannon at August 28, 2004 02:03 PM

do any one know how i can me my sexy big man suge

Posted by: kim at September 7, 2004 01:40 PM

suge is the sh#$, if this wasnt so publicized, you could bet your life that snoop would be dead, suges a real thug, if he was in front of you right now you wouldnt say shit you know it, i know it, snoop knows it

Posted by: k man at September 17, 2004 02:16 AM

suge is the sh#$, if this wasnt so publicized, you could bet your life that snoop would be dead, suges a real thug, if he was in front of you right now you wouldnt say shit you know it, i know it, snoop knows it

Posted by: k man at September 17, 2004 02:16 AM

Suge Sucks ass

Posted by: Nick at September 27, 2004 05:29 PM

2pac4life ppl suge killed him n now he thinks that hes makin money off 2pac's music. rofl

Posted by: Nick at September 27, 2004 05:30 PM

ALL I CAN SAY IS FUK THESE BITCH ASS CONFLICTS U WANT BEEF THEN U WILL GET BEEF BY REAL NIGGERS REAL PEOPLE WHO MAKE SHIT HAPPEN FUK SUGE THE FAT FUCK HE AIN'T SHIT AND FUK SNOOP THE FAKE BITCH ASS NIGGER WE WILL SEE WHO IS A REALIST NIGGER WEN 1 OF THESE FAKE FUKS KILL EACH OTHER BIG UP TALIBAN FUK U ALL IF U DON'T GET ME PEACE OUT NIGARETES FUK U 2

Posted by: bad yas f u 2 at October 18, 2004 12:42 PM

Thug life.......still rollin.......westside.......

Posted by: Aksel at October 19, 2004 02:55 PM

how yall gonna think suge killed 2pac when 1 yall aint got no proof n 2 hella bytch ass mutha fukaz hated on pac just cuz he was a threat in the rap game it couldve been any1 itz hella funny how diddy neva really getz asked if he was eva involved with pac death?? thin about it yall prolly big didnt have nuin 2 do wit pacz death maybe diddy payed sum moth fukka to put on a white suit in roll up in a expenive car n shoot 2pac maybe it was all planned!!! think about it...biggy prolly didnt agree wit diddy n fought wit him about it so diddy had 2 take hiz own boy down 2 IT WAS ALL PLANNED ..aint it weird dat when 2pac got shot in last vegas it was the night of a mike tyson fight...WATCH diddyz bad boy 4 life video..it all makes sence 2 me!!!!!every1 in it taht bakstabbed tupac hated tupac...errybody dat seemed to hate on tupac are hella good frinds wit diddy all the sudden these dayz..LLcoolJ,wyclef jean, J-Z,Snoop,Dr.Dre DIDDYZ RICH ASS PAYED SUM1 iyunno how!!! But he had sum shyt 2 do wit the murder of both biggy bay areaz legend 2PAC SHAKUR RIP NIGGA FROM US REAL NIGGAZ WHO KEPT IT REAL 4 U!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: BaD Boy KiLLA at October 29, 2004 01:55 AM

ALL I CAN SAY IS ALL THESE MOTHER FUKIN SHIT BOUT BEEF FUK IT LET THEM 2 GET ON WIT IT ACTIN LIKE FAKE NIGGERZZZ ITZ ALL BOUT TALIBAN REAL PAKIZ DO REAL TINGZ WE PAKIZ AIN'T SCARED 2 DIE FUK DEATH WHILE REST OF U MOTHER FUKERZ HIDE BEHIND UR MUMZ FUK SNOOP THE LANKY MOTHER FUKER ACTIN LIKE HEZ SUM PIMP TRYIN START BEEF ALSO FUK SUGE KNIGHT THE FAT MOTHER FUKER FUK ALL U FAKE NIGGERZ ITZ ALL BOUT REALIST NIGGERZ FUK U ALL IF U DON'T FEEL ME CUM 2 BROOKLYN IF ANY U MOTHER FUKERZ WANT BEEF FUK U ALL U SON OF A BITCHES ITZ ALL BOUT 2 PAC REST IN PEACE NIGGER WHERE MY REAL PAKIZ AT FUKA LL U FAKE BITCH ASS NIGGERZ FUK U ALL I TOLD U MOTHER FUKERZ LOCK UP UR DAUGHTERZ LOL PEACE OUT BAD PAKI A.K.A TALIBAN CREW

Posted by: bad paki at November 5, 2004 11:00 AM

TALIBAN

Posted by: sue-gay AKA sakoia at November 15, 2004 05:12 AM

F@uck shuge Fat ass. He need to go to jail. He aint nuttin but a hater. What goes aroung comes around and what he did in the past is catchinng up to him now. You see he aint making no money now. he dont treat people right. YOu cant nust go around and try and act thuggish all the time when your in this business. Thats why bad boy and all the other comapanies are doing something now. He aint neva gonna make it.

Posted by: kron at November 16, 2004 02:47 AM

i want to meet suge knight to kill him for what he didn't/did do 4 pac

Posted by: mixmastermike at November 17, 2004 03:05 PM

I WILL TO MEET MARION KNIGHT IF YOU READ HIT ME UP WE CAN BRING BACK 96-95 WITHOUT DRE - DOGPOUND

Posted by: kim at November 18, 2004 01:27 AM

Suge is a piece of shit with a cigar - fat boy will go down, mark my words.

Posted by: Ras at November 19, 2004 08:24 PM

Does it matter??????
Let's keep it real, instead of trying 2 c who is best! And who can beat down the next b an example for those little thugs and thugettes coming up in this generation.

Posted by: KJ at January 15, 2005 10:20 AM

People, please, there is too much hate circulating out there and we all know where it will end (another one gets his brains blown out)
and then all the crying and mourning and the endless why? why? why???????? did this have to happen? Suge,Diddy,Snoop,Dre,JZ,LL, and many others all have one positive thing in common. They are all successful black entrepreneurs. They are all putting major bread on their tables and none of us would hate them if they were family members. Well guess what? They are all members of the black family living here in America. May I remind you also, that it is a very racist, "keep the niggers in their place" America. These guys had to overcome racism like any other black person in America.

You don't see Ringo Starr and his fans talking about killing Paul McCartney or vise versa. You don't see Eminem talking about killing Justin Timberlake. Why do black folks have to be perpetual crabs in a barrel? Live and let live! Live and prosper! Learn from the success of others or at least be encouraged by it! And please, take some time out to learn to read and write English. If you wish to get your message across, people should be able to at least understand what you are saying. Just look at the mess of comments on this site. You don't have to go back to school, so don't give yourself an excuse to be ignorant. Just pick up a dictionary and start from right where you are! Learn words and use them to get your message across. There is no future in Ebonics! Ebonics was a stillbirth! Thank God for that! Hate eventually destroys the hater people. Don't criticise a man (or woman) until you have walked a mile in his shoes and never judge a man until you have walked the pathways of life in his shoes. And last, but certainly not least: pick up that book!

Posted by: Black Apache at February 6, 2005 03:04 PM

yo tupac aint dead he liven in cuba nd yo i m tupac da realest nigga owt dare all of these ppl are fake azz eastcoast rappers dat dnt know shyt yo i will fuk suge up nd dre knows it nd so does snoop snoop is wit me rite nowim gunna go up 2 suge nd b lyk yo y u set me up nd den im gunna put a bullet in his face den u will c who iz da realest nigga owt dare peace owt all ma niggaz owt dare repin da westsyde nd thuglife 4 life

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