Ha, ha, I love your review. (And Harold Perrineau, mmmMmmMm.)

I'm going to go see it again tonight (as was my original plan)...the middle of the film is excellent. From the moment they meet up with the Oracle until the end of the highway chase, it's very good filmmaking.

I need to see it again to pay more attention to the very slow plot points (and those slow plot points are what made me love Empire Strikes Back more and more in later viewings).

Roy Jones Jr. and Cornel West is fun casting and I think that Persephone, The the Merovingian, and the key maker probably deserved more screen time as they were the most vibrant of the characters.

And they got a little too happy with the hugo weaving effect.

But more concrete discussion after a 2nd viewing.

Just seen The Matrix Reloaded (thought was just clever hollywood gimmick title but has real depth when the plot is revealed.... more on this later)...only my first viewing so forgive me if some things I point out may be incorrect...

so, what's bad? the "action"...which for majority was flat and felt "dead"...why? my opinion is way too much CGI (and when you can tell it's CGI, that's bad CGI) and too little "real world" wire-fu which made the first one so stand out. Compare for instance ANY fight scene in Matrix (eg Dojo, Wetwall fight, Subway) and it way outshines any in Reloaded (only the brief, possibly pointless, fight between Neo and Seraph as well as Trinity's fight with the Agents remotely resembles the raw essense of first film).

The so-called rave scene is not as bad as people make it out to be...it serves to demonstrate people struggling against the odds and have such faith to "party on" despite impending doom (coz the "One" will save them?)ok, Morpheus speech was corny but kinda necessary as he gave one of realism filled with hope (vs what the Commander whom would have prefered to hide the worst)..

what's good? as it turns out, plenty! Just when I thought, "Groan, is it going to be one after another CGI action sequences?" the W Brothers goes and proves to us why they are one of the premier filmakers around (granted they have to date only 3 films to their name ;P)...The sheer scale of the story towards the end...was..breath-taking...so much so I came out stunned....I must admit it took me next few hours to think things through plus help of discussions to realise where this story was going...which of course blew me away even more (and yes, making it an instant must-see-again)

SPOILERS ahead: it's been well discussed in this forum so I will try not to repeat everything pointed out..

My "conclusion" from this movie is the "real world" is not really but only exists as a sub (or parallel) programme to the Matrix...SO Zion was created to cater for the 1% of population whom would reject The Matrix otherwise, resulting in excessive "crop loss" which would have made the Computers try to salvage them..Thus these people continue to "live on" in Zion believing themselves to be free but in reality they are all still attached to the same system and utilised as batteries too. (this also explains why Smith could transport himself into the "real world" since it's only another programme anyway)

However, in creating this system, an anomaly (ie bug) has arisen which the Architect (ie programmer) tries as he does cannot get rid of....this anomaly is Neo....instead he realizes the way to rid of it is to set up this elaborate "destiny" for him to run its cycle and bring it back to The Source where his programme is recycled back in (ie bug fixed) and the entire programme ( I believe this includes both The Matrix and Zion....how else do you explain how they maintain The Matrix in the late 90's/00's despite all this apparently taking place hundreds of years in future? ) is reloaded (hence the clever title). So to help this along, programmes like The Oracle (yes she is "one of the bad guys" so to speak) and Keymaker are created...all to bring Neo to the Architect seemingly oon his own free will but (as Merovingon pointed out) it is not of course...What he did do different this time is instead of going into the Source Door and save humanity (the alleged 21 survivors of Zion to rebuild again but in reality a reload), he chose the Matrix Door in order to save Humanity and thus dooming all mankind since this anomaly will wreck the entire programme (inc Zion programme presumably) in time and destroy every last human....

BUT! the catch is in performing this new, unexpected action the anomaly ie Neo is now changed as a result and for the first time is able to perceive Zion as also being a programme (eg disabling the Sentinels)...for the first time possibly the Computers are truly scared (since they were obviously not at end of first movie since this is all going according to plan and has already happenened 5 previous times...) of what he could do..

Many theories abound of many things.....which of course can only be resolved in Revolutions...but we can always speculate ;)

Since it is all a programme...how do we know what the real world is like at all??? Maybe there is no real world left? Maybe it is still a paradise? It could easily be Aliens are controlling the Matrix etc...However this would be a cop-out and I believe the W Brothers will not do that to us....

how to end this movie? a happy Hollywood ending with humans all being awaken by Neo and defeating the machines? a sad cynical we are all still and will be forever stuck in the Matrix/Zion/programme? A Happyish ending is most probable BUT as has been pointed out, one of main 3 will probably die...or rather the one theory I favour the most is Neo is NOT human and as such will realise he is only a programme himself set up by the Architect to deal with the anomaly to enable reloading the system and ironically though designed (like the Oracle) to help enslave humans, ends up (due to love for Trinity) saving them and in doing so, making himself as a programme obsolete...

One probable outcome is one that Machines are not as “evil” as made out to be and in fact a solution requiring cooperation is the answer....thus the speech with Council leader regarding Machines and Man requiring each other....and as hinted in the Animatrix episode, the Machines did try to make it up with Man...

What is Agent Smith’s role in all this? Just to provide a nemesis for Neo? or much more integral to the plot? Some suggest he is a previous One though I don’t find this argument that compelling...(more likely is Merovingon is a previous One..as maybe Seraph, Oracle’s protector)

A mention is made of “The Mother of the Matrix” by the Architect in which Neo asks, “The Oracle?” in which the former is bemused and laughs (since The Oracle is only a lesser programme designed by him anyway). Others feel Trinity is more then she seems and may in fact be this “Mother”...again, I don’t know why people feel so...another suggestion is she is the real “The One” since it is by her that humanity will be saved....(remembering of course all this The One hokey pokey is made up by the machines anyway)

Conclusion? Make sure you book your tickets to see The Matrix Revolutions (more hints in this title?) One thing is for sure, the W Brothers will succeed in making a truly deep and clever film with a killer trilogy twist disguised as “an action film”...

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