Well here's my reaction

Artists as well as athletes, actors etc could never be leaders, how can one place so much faith in someone who's only claim to fame is their riding a beat. The moral and political direction lies in the hands of parents, teachers and so on. If I ran around the house talkin about bitches and hoes one or both of my parents would have smacked me. Sadly alot of people grew up without willing or capable parents, this is a much greater problem (and another blog entry)

He made an excellent point with the Michael Jackson Jew refernces. Though I should point out that if we're the ones shouting nigga etc then it's seems ok. Which is why you have non black kids around the world (and white ones in this country who should know better) shouting nigga.

I sort of agreed with the idea that a positive image of black people won't sell. But this is
the case across the board in the entertainment industry.
Britney Spears plays the role of slut in every other magazine and her fan base is pre to early
teenage girls (and 40 year old men). Nobody's pressurin her to lead the children. Trash sells. In the case of hip-hop, the mainstream has typecast us as jewelled, dancing, grinning clowns. Because that's what sells. What if we like other things as well. And that's the point I agreed with 100% we can't get the other shit played.

Which is why I agree that we need our own distribution, if you want something done right you have to do it yourself. I'm sure we've all come into contact with someone tryong to get a record deal, they've recorded a demo, spent time and money jumping through hoops, all so the can impress some A&R (mountain climbing gear and electric guitar in tow), who tells them to sound more like everything else on the radio, so they can then get about $0.03 per record sold. All that time spent they could have put something out themselves.

can someone help me? up until last week i've been able to play rm files with realone player. now for some reason they won't play. i keep getting an error message saying that file type isn't supported by realone player. what went wrong? my ra files play without any problems. i was really looking foward to listening to spinna's set from the rare radio show last week.

Farrakhan has only a marginal grasp of the situation. He insists on seeing everything in Black and White. He is a retrograde throwback to the 1960s. And his ability to make headlines is a testament to the crisis in Black America. I wish Angela Davis would kick his ass.

If Farrakhan were a REAL leader, he would be addressing the future Malcolm X's and not future 50 Cents. But let's be realistic... the last thing Farrakhan wants is to lose the spotlight, and therefore he will ALWAYS choose to fight the losing battle. To fight the "winning" battle -- building coalitions with those outside the black community -- would threaten his power. As well, he is ill-equipped to lead such a coalition, as shown by his divisive remarks and willingness to alienate a key ally: Jews.

And about this Jew comment in the interview. Farrakhan is simply bitter that Jews are more powerful and better organized than his measely NOI. Michael Jackson didn't have to remove those retarded lines "jew me, sue me" or "kick me, kike me". He probably sold more records BECAUSE of the controversy, not in spite of it. Those two deserve each other. I just wish Michael would dangle Farrakhan off a balcony, instead of that poor baby.

Bring it on!!!

What divisive marks did Farakhan say about Jews?
If I can remember he said that State of Israel was using Judiaism as a shield to justify their occupatio of Palestine. He called the religion they practiced a gutter a religion. This is absolutely true. How can you regute this eric. Farakhan is the truth, One of the last that doesnt care to be politcally correct and speaks form the heart honestly

To your question of How I can refute this?

...very easily.

In the Koran, Moses is called “the Apostle of the Lord of the Universe.”(7:105, 43:47). Moses is the founder and principal architect of Judaism.

Quite the contrary of Farrakhan's assertion, it is actually the NOI which is a "gutter religion," due to its bastardization of traditional Islamic beliefs (in particular, breaking the Seventh Seal and claiming Fard as a prophet) and the fact that the NOI was first developed in poor neighborhoods of Detroit.

Thanks for bringing this to everyone's attention. But I was actually referring to Farrakhan's comments about Michael Jackson's self-censorship, not the merits of the NOI... which are very few.

That said, I have always had respect for the NOI's emphasis on critical thinking and self-empowerment. But the theological foundation is quite shaky and Farrakhan is a self-serving leader who is more interested in power than true enlightenment. Just ask Malcolm X.

If you have anything else you would like me to refute... let me know.

I work for Lebanese Muslims everyday. For the past 5 years in fact. One of the younger ones is a true hip-hop head. What do they (REAL MUSLIMS) have to say about Farakhan? FRAUD!!!!! The NOI? BULLSHIT!!!!
FaraFRAUD claims that this Elijah Muhamed was a prophet, when the Koran says that the LAST prophet was Mohamed. From about 1600 years ago!
The NOI preys on the ignorance of Amerikkkas black youth. Out there selling newspapers in the streets, while FaraFRAUD sits in his mansion complaining about JEWS.....
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think it was W.D. Fard, aka...

Wali Fard
Wali Fard Muhammad
Farad Muhammad
Master Farad Muhammad
Wallace D. Fard
Wallace Fard Muhammad
W. D. Farad
W. D. Farrad
Wali Farad
Wallace Delaney Fard
Wallace Dodd Fard
F. Mohammed Ali

...who presented himself as a prophet, and was later canonized by by Elijah Muhammad as a "living god". Elijah Muhammad somehow took over the position of resident prophet.

Just another tidbit:

"The NOI theology holds that a mad black scientist named Yakub created white people 6000 years ago as a curse and test for the superior black people."

In this case, fiction is truly funnier than truth.

Eric you are going on tangents or maybe I didnt make myself clear. I was talking about your point on his divisiveness with Jews. I was asking you to refute the fact that The State of Israeil is practicing a gutter religion in regards to its occupation of Palenstine. I am not defending The NOI' religous practices in regards to being a real Muslim. I think some of you facts are a little off you need to do some more research. I feel that tne nations practice of Islam in its inception wasnt traditional, this is due to ignorance rather than deception. Vek One you are absolutely wrong Farakhan does not refer to Elijah Muhhamad as prophet. Refers to him as the Messenger. Presently the NOI has aligned their practices with the traditional Islamic faith.

I dont think you would find to many others that speak with the wisdom of Farakhan. One who is bold enough to challenge the present day status quo and tell it like it is. Please dont give me any 1960 stuff, a man is allowed to grow.

tineen...

OK... so you are right?... PROVE IT!

State the facts... and back it up with some evidence. I want to see names and page numbers. Otherwise, everything you say is bullshiz.

1. "Gutter religion"... please provide the name of original source, quote, and explain what this means.

2. What are WD Fard and Elijah Poole's theological status in the NOI? Is this derived from the Koran, or from separate NOI scriptures?

3. Does the NOI have non-Koranic doctrines/scriptures? If so... please provide their names and publishers.

4. How does the occupation of Palestine = a gutter religion? Isn't this a bit off-topic? Please provide the quotes to which you are responding in the audio.

5. Which of my "facts" are wrong. Please provide contrary evidence (aka quotes).

If you don't answer these basic questions, you will have no credibility and we will be forced to disregard everything you say. This is serious stuff and I hope you will accept the challenge.

I think we can all learn a lot here. I am happy to respond in kind if you have questions for me. I have the benefit of having studied the Nation of Islam over the past 12 years in high school and college. Therefore I am happy to provide names, quotes, page numbers, and publishers.

Ohhhhh....
So NOW the NOI is alligning themselves with traditional practices. Let's see what else they do when more of their bullshit is exposed in THOUGHTFUL discussions such as this.
Fuck FaraFraud and the NOI.
Fucking hate mongering in the name of GOD?
Okay.....
Maybe we should all give respect to the honorable Osama next?

Eric, I wasnt really responding to the audio when you called Farrakhan Antisemtic I assumed you were talking about the speech that caused controversy. The speech was taken out of context to me. It was covered extensivly on the Phil Donahue show when Farrakhan was guest. If you extensivly researched the NOI you would know. I doubt you have this much experience because you would know about this speech. Just by the simple statement you made that Farakhan should be addressing the future Malcolm X's not the 50cents'.This statement lets me know you are totally ignorant to the NOI, The 50 cents are the future Malcolm X's Read the Autobiography of Malcolm X by Alex Haley. The NOI dont have the separate religious doctrine than the Koran. Basically as a Religous group they have books that ty to interpret the Islamic and Christian doctrine. You can Check out Message to the Blackman by Elijah Muhhamad. Second the present NOI is not the Original NOI the original NOI is now headed by Ward F Muhhamad Elijah's son and they have since chaged their name to I think the American Muslim Mission. Here are two books you should read. The Prophet of Rage this one is about Farakhan the other is the Rise and Fall of Elijah Muhhamad. Both of these books were written by white Jews so that should make you comfortable. I really dont want to get into religous interpretation because it all gets weird to me and we will be here for days. But really this is going on to much. I think Farrakhan is a good person and speaks on a number of political issues very well and has done more good than bad. Who really cares what you all think you guys just another opinion thats it no more.

Just as a little side note, in Jeffrey Eugenides' novel "Middlesex," he uses the mysterious W.D. Fard as a character, representing him as a travelling huckster, charlatan, and white man. Of course, this is just fiction (and excellent fiction), but the interesting part is that, for all we know about Fard, it's plausible.

I did read the Autobiography of Malcolm X and also As They Knew Him. I didn't say I studied this shit by watching Donahue (at least you gave me the source of your information!). Malcolm X was very critical of the NOI after he went to Mecca and realized the Afrocentrism of the NOI was bullshit.

Tineen... you don't make a very strong case for the NOI when you state that the organization has significantly over the years. Yes, they have changed, but the basic messages and attitudes (the NOI is mostly about attitude) are the same: empowering Black people and bastardizing Islamic beliefs.

It's funny that you attack me when a) you didn't listen to the audio b) you didn't answer any of my questions c) you insist on attacking my "credibility" when it is you who have no credibility (remember... I offered to give you names and page numbers of my sources).

Ask yourself why you are so compelled to defend the Nation Of Islam? What has the NOI done for you? Even Elijah Muhammad's own son split from the NOI and started a traditional sect.

Eric get a life. You made the point that Farrakhan should not talk to 50 cent he should talk the future Malcolm X's. If you read the Autobiography of Malcolm X you would have known Malcolm's lifestyle before he joined the NOI.

I gave the Donahue show because they higlighted the speech their. Farrakhan Gives so many speaches im not digging through them for you.

Here is The sources for your
http://www.noi.org/history_of_noi.htm?history=&Nation+of+Islam=&noi=
The nation of Islam http://www.noi.org/press-events/press02-27-99.html

The NOI is responsible for my conception. My parents met in the original NOI. So why you half studied it I lived it.

Second if your talking about Elijah son Wallace who split from the Nation you are wrong. Elijah left the Organization to Wallace, after his death Wallace then took the Nation in another direction which was the original intention of Elijah. But of course you know this because you studied right?

Eric what is your facination with the NOI?
What has the NOI done to you?

You spend alot of time on them to me you are a little bitch who has nothing better to do.

Farrakhan gets alot of flak from alot of Jewish groups because his denouncement of the State of Israel. Which on this point I think he is correct. I think it is evil what they have done and have used the name of religion to justify the colinization of Palenstine(Zionism) May you should have studied that in school.

Elijah, Farrakhan , Malcolm are all men, who all have selfish itentions, are not perfect and make mistakes I not here to justify or condone any of them. What I do know they are people I respect and I feel they are some of the greatest men this country has produced.

Stop passing yourself off as some knowledegeable because you are not you are a FRAUD.

dude... chill. why do you have to keep attacking me and trying to shoot me down. why not keep things friendly and have a civil discussion?

The NOI is a fascinating organization and just one of the many things I am still learning about in this big world of ours. But if you choose to only see the world one way... i guess it means we won't get along. I never said I am right and you are wrong. In fact, if you follow my comments... I am asking for you to correct me and answer questions. Right?

Peace...

tineen... you know what... on second thought, I think we should just lay-off the arguing. In all sincerity, I was thining maybe it would be more pleasant for all of us -- and interesting -- if you might share some of your own stories about the NOI. It's just an idea. I know you probably aren't down for that, since there's all these people up here attacking you. But I am honestly interested and I have not interest in further arguing.

In spite of all my attacks and criticism of the NOI, I do have a lot of respect for the organization. Otherwise, I wouldn't have bothered to read about the NOI and I wouldn't be here discussing it. Hopefully you can see that I do have a sincere interest, in spite of my many criticisms (I'm critical about all organized religion). And I'm not trying to pull some sort of bait-and-switch maneuver. I am honestly interested. Besides, wouldn't it be nice to end this on a positive note... instead of a bitter one? It's your call. But regardless... nuff respect for sticking your neck out and I will definitely follow up on the things you talked about and suggested I read. Peace....

As Salaam Alaikum to all
Let's begin all things with Allahs' Illustrious Name.

To Eric,
I read your post and decided to give you what I posted on another topic which was "Micheal Jackson joining the Nation of Islam" I certainly do not wish to engage in an ignorant exchange of post but to discuss this thing like intelligent Human beings. I would love to overstand what you believe in. After reading my post, please tell me the points you consider to be false and not scriptural;

As Salaam Alaikum to All,
Why are there so many false concepts concerning the teachings of the Most Honored Elijah Muhammad.
First, the Shahada in Islam states " There is No God but Allah, Muhammad is his Messenger" in the Holy Quran there is made a difference between a "Nabi" and a "Rasool"; a "Nabi" is a Prophet/messenger who receives scripture and a Messenger is just that; a messenger who delivers devine revelation. The shahada says "Muhammad Rasool Allah" it does not say "Muhammad ibn Abdulla is Rasool Allah" We the followers of Elijah Muhammad bear witness that Muhammad ibn Abdulla is the last "Nabi" but certainly not the last "Rasool". The Holy Quraan says that Allah sent (past participle) a Messenger to every nation and raises a messenger from among the people he desires to warn, guide, etc... The western Hemisphere has not been givin a messenger until Allah raised up the Honorable Elijah Muhammad from among the so-called Negro of America. The Holy Quraan says that Adam was created of "BLACK MUD" fashioned into shape, the very word "HUMAN" comes from a Latin word Humanus which means man of the "Humus" and Humus is defined as the vegetation of the earth or that which makes the soil "BLACK". If we did not live in a world that denigrated BLACKNESS and uplifted WHITENESS and treated people w/contempt because of the color of their skin, namely BLACK skin there would be no reason to declare that the BLACK man is the Original Man and reveal the Truth of how races came into existence. The Holy Quran does not mention computers but we know that computers are a reality, the Quraan does not mention atomic and nuclear bombs but that doesn't mean they are not real and do exist so just because the Quraan doesn't say outright that the Blackman is the Original Man and White people came into existence through a system of birthing called "Grafting" doesn't mean that it isn't truth or that it did not happen. The honorable Elijah Muhammad also taught us that every individual has the right to Freedom, Justice, and Equality regardless to race, religious belief, or being Muslim or non-Muslim. Just as the Sun shines freely on the righteous and un-righteous so do We the Muslims treat everyone w/respect. That is the behavior of the righteous, only speaking what we know and verifying what we read or hear to ascertain the truth. It is a very foolish practice of the Eastern Muslim world to decide who is a Muslim and who practices Islam. I always wonder would they consider Abraham a Muslim considering the fact that he and his son Ishmael built the Kaba and named us Muslims, he certainly bore witness that there is no god but Allah but he couldn't say Muhammad is his messenger because there was no Muhammad then. The Holy Quraan says every Prophet of Allah taught Islam(Submission of one's will to ALLah's WIll) Jesus taught a different Islam than Muhammad ibn Abdulla but Islam nontheless so why are we begrudged of Islam simple because we don't follow the Scholarship of a Muslim world that is off the "Right Path". Why don't the Sunni's or Shi'its disband their "sect" since Muhammad ibn Abdulla established THE "NATION OF ISLAM" having no sects or divisions, he himself was just a "Muslim", not sunni or shi'it or any other "sect". Abraham did not pray in the manner that is prescribed in the Quraan but he Prayed nevertheless, neither did Jesus pray in the manner that is in the Quraan but he was always in prayer. The Muslim world should be on their feet in praise to Allah for turning our Faces toward the Kaba, and throwing off of ourselves many of the vices that western world is filled with. We observe many Muslims that migrate hear and amalgamate with Western culture's practices like cigarett smoking, drinking liquors, selling pork and treating non-arabs and black people w/a superior type of attitude typical of a White supremacy indoctrination which the Prophet Muhammad warned his community before he departed. We are so thankful to Allah for coming to us in The Person of Master FARD Muhammad to Be our MADHI to the straight path of ALLAH that we be successful in the house of the Infidel where once Islam was outlawed. The 22nd Sura 54th Verse states that Allah will be the "GUIDE" to those who believe to the straight path. We are grateful to Allah that he did not leave our guidance to a Muslim World that is in submission to the Western World's military power. The prime minister of Malaysia Mohamed Mathir's speech at the World Islamic Conference summed up the state of affairs of the Muslim World with extreme accuracy which does not reflect a world with a right understanding of Allah's Message via the Holy Quraan. Keep watching this budding Nation in the West called "Nation of Islam" for Allah has many wonders to perform, he intends to bring all of Humanity into submission(Islam) to his Active Will which is FREEDOM, JUSTICE, EQUALITY, and PEACE. I do apologize for such a long post but the spirit carried me away.
I leave you as I greeted you "AS Salaam Alaikum"
Posted by Sarfarrazz El-Shabazz at December 26, 2003 01:34 PM

As Salaam Alaikum to All
I see that my post got a few individuals upset, I also see that as usual Truth was the first casualty. We the so-called american Negros who have accepted our nature which is Islam and have attempted to be ourselves which is a righteous Muslim have a very unique history here in the Western Hemisphere since we have been completely cut off from our historical identity, nevertheless as divine providence would have it we had to go through what we went through in order to render the mighty service Allah would have us render to Humanity. Islam is the most beautiful community that has existed for the past 14 centuries and the Quraan is the most excellent Book one could ever read, it also is a book wherein there is NO DOUBT in it. It is Mathematically perfect and it's composition deals with every human condition and every human motive which causes people to think and act as they do. We the followers of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad are patient in going over facts and truth over and over again, we will continue to grow in our ability to explain the truth with as much detail as is available. The end of race consciousness and nationality cannot be removed from one's thoughts except there be Truth spoken in regards to race and nationality. Again I'll say; If we did not live in a world of racism and White Supremacy Indoctrination there would be no reason to discuss race or the origins of race. To discuss how races came into existence is not racism. To state that all races came from Black people is not racism, it is truth! Just because that is stated does not imply superiority of black but it certainly lifts them from an inferiority complex because of there black identity. Racism is all over the World some acknowledge it but most don't. We the follower's of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad do not teach racism which is the teachings that we are a victim of but we do teach racial respect and love of black self since we have endured centuries of being fed a hatred of blackness which inturn have caused many problems within our own culture, this is something that may be difficult for those who have not experienced it to fully understand but that's okay becuase everything is not for you to understand. It just saddens me that everytime you hear Eastern Muslims' attack on the NOI it is always based on half-truths and outright falsehoods, it it always based on a teaching that is taking out of context and it is not dealt with facts and truth. The cry is always "they're not practicing Real Islam"; what is "REAL ISLAM" and "TRUE ISLAM" please tell me where REAL ISLAM is practiced so that I may observe their Submission to ALLAH's Will. I've read much literature from so-called Scholars on the religion of Islam as well as the Quraan itself, also some hadith supposely the words spoken by the Prophet himself and there doesn't seem to be a complete consensus within the scholarship of Islam, if there were there wouldn't be "sects" i.e., Sunni, shii'a. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad followed the Sunna of the Prophet if you truly studied his Sunna and not get caught up in the differences in time frame such as brushing your teeth with a mishwak to the toothbrush of today or riding a camel and riding in a car today. The honorable Elijah Muhammad's methodology in bringing us Islam followed in the tradition of how Islam was introduced to the Arabs 14 centuries earlier along with dealing with the realities of the time w/truth but since the Muslim world is so far off the Right path as Prophet Muhammad predicted that it would be it's no wonder the Right Path seems like it's not "True Islam". You know it is unfortunate that we are even engaging in something so trivial since Islam is a religion of Unity and Respect for Humanity (all of Humanity)just as all of Humanity lives in the Universe and benefit from the Greatest signs of Islam; The SUN, MOON, and STARS. All benefit from Rain and that which the earth produces. In oder to reach that which Islam advocates and demonstrates during Hajj Truth must be spoken to the obstacles in the way of such a reality. The Truth cannot omit anything no matter how unpleasant it may sound to the ear, if it's truth- DEAL with IT!
May Allah bless each of us with Patience and Understanding. I leave you as I greeted you
As Salaam Alaikum
Posted by Sarfarrazz El-Shabazz at December 29, 2003 01:32 PM

As Salaam Alaikum to you all
Beloved brother Mercy, I first would like to begin w/your last Question "what do I believe"
I believe that "there is NO god but ALLAH, and Muhammad is his Messenger" okay, but what does that mean. to believe in a messenger of Allah is to believe in Allah. you can't disbelive in the Messenger and believe in Allah for the messenger relays Allah's message which contains revelation(that which we knew not and guidance) Allah's messenger also bring w/him knowledge of the time which dictates which actions are in accord w/Allah's will for the period of time the messenger is raised in, this is Divine Mercy from Allah that he raises up a Messenger to deliver his message especially if the people have deviated from Messages prevoiusly givin. If the Muslim world had stayed firm on the DEEN that The Prophet put them on the world that we presently know would not have been able to come into existence. Slavery, colonialization, Nationalism, Sexism, Materialism subjugation of Women would not have been able to blossom had the Muslim World stayed firm on that path, However that is not the case. We the so-called american Negro did not come into Islam to follow the understanding that is prevailing but to submit our will to do the will of Allah which is to obey the messenger who brings the message that will bring us back to the Right Path, the path of those whom Allah has bestowed his blessings. The messenger teaches us what Allah demands of us in the time that we are in so that we can see through the obscurity of falsehoods and half-truths. I do not think that American Muslims think that they are better than Eastern muslims, majority of them come from the East. I do think that Eastern muslims sometimes erroneously think that they have a monopoloy on Islam and how to practice Islam which is very insulting. When the prophet began his work of bringing Islam back to that region it looked alot different than the final outcome. When the Honorable Elijah Muhammad first began teaching Islam in America it grew and alot of things that was prcticed then is not practiced now, so let us continue to grow in our understanding of what Allah revealed to us for the benefit of Humanity, The Holy Quran teaches that Allah sent his messenger w/the True Religion that he may make it prevail over all other religions so I believe that process of Prevailing began w/a MAN named Fard Muhammad the GUIDE, who raised up the Honorable Elijah Muhammad;the first begotten of the so-called Negro(DEAD) to expose the Son of perdition, the man of Sin and to make a straight path in a very crooked world. Someimes brother when the world has been on a false course for so long when truth emerges it to looks like falsehood until it's light illumines so brightly that there is no denying it. Everyday as more and more information becomes available it confirms the teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad as teaching Truth and nothing but the Truth, some aspects of that truth we are still trying to understand and grasp but time will help us with that. The transformation of lives that his teaching has caused among the so-called incorrible is in itself a testimony to the truth that he asserts. I also wanted to comment on the statement you made concerning shi'its and their disbelief in the Prophet, I have never heard people say they are not muslims, or practicing "Real Islam", but we who struggle to bring our active will in accord w/ALLAH's will have to endure our brothers in the Faith saying we are not TRUE MUSLIMS. Please stop these unwanting critizisms and accept your brothers as brothers who Believe in Allah, his prophets, the scriptures that they brought, the Unseen reality that moves the seen reality, Prayer(contact w/ALLAH), who pay the poor rate, and of the Here-After we are Sure. We are certain that after the fall and removel of this world of Evil Here will be just like you see during HAJJ.
May Allah bless us all with the light of Understanding.
Posted by Sarfarrazz El-Shabazz at December 29, 2003 06:30 PM

As Salaam Alaikum to you All
I just wanted to respond to Wamiq, I know brother there is so much mis-understanding concerning just what the Honorable Elijah Muhammad taught concerning "the Blue Eyed-Devils", that is a statement in the Holy Quraan; that Allah would gather the guilty blue-eyes. That may have allegorical meaning in the Arabic etymology, I'll study that! Concerning Malcolm X, he did not discover White Muslims when he made his pilgrimage, He always knew there were white Muslims. Something to ponder: Malcolm X was Elijah Muhammad's spokesman for 11 years, and he was out of the Nation for 11 months. The greatness of that Man was as a result of the 11 years teaching the teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. Now, he never taught that ONLY Blacks can be Muslims, He did teach that the Black Nation are Muslims by Nature, Islam is the Nature in which Allah created him but you can see that he can be other than himself and submit his will to do Satan's will which brings out of himself Devil. On the other end White people were brought into existence through a type of birth control system called grafting, during this grafting process Lying and Murdering was the method that brought them into being, Please listen; this is not racism! It's revelation; let me try to explain it this way, In biology you learn about dominant and recessive genes and how individuals obtain Blue eyes and Green eyes. These are recessive traits that can only be manifested if a recessive gene matches a recessive gene. This is not theory like the ape thoery taught in schools, White people are the manifest truth of this. The original White person is Blonde hair, Blue eyes and any White person that has black hair or brown eyes etc. have at one time in their history been tainted w/black or men of color's blood. The meaning of nature is how a thing comes into existence, that is what determines it's nature. Now Elijah Muhammad taught us that the Man who initiated that work of grafting and the group of individuals he lead were all Black people. He (the Man) was a brilliant scientist who saw white in Black and desired to extract him out and give him a purpose which was to bring into reality a world contrary to the Righteousness that we knew. To create a World of disobedience where Lying, Murdering, Deceiving is the order of the day. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad never said White people cannot be Muslims, he said they are not Muslims by nature but by their choice there are some Muslims that are White and are more careful in thier duty to Allah than some Blacks or any other race which is highly commendable. They are and should be treated as a brother in the faith. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad did make pilgrimage in 1959 and he saw the Universality of Islam, and the beauty in the Mosaic of Humanity all serving one ALLAH, but that is a sign of the HereAfter, however when they go back to their countries of origin ofttimes they go back to business as usual. If we attempt to make the reality of Hajj real all over the world then you'll find yourself coming up against an Ideology that is non-conducive to Unity and Peace. We the so-called Negroes were reared in the House of the Infidels and we have witnessed much of the tactics that are being practiced on Muslims and non-Muslim, Blacks in particular but all races in general to keep division among them and keep them under the yoke of deception. To see how effective Satan's methodolgy is and has been you might need to put on the glasses of the Teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad and see an open Enemy who wispers (by innuendo) into the hearts of men and caused them to doubt,fear, distrust the motives of their brothers and allies in order to prevent Unity of the Righteous which would bring to a Halt all evil doings and establish real peace. They cast suggestions in firm resolutions, and they frame mischief in a Law. Howbeit all races have an End and the end is back to the beginning. Allah says in his Quraan that to Him is the eventual return. All races' end is in Allah where there is no racism only Equality, Freedom, Justice and Peace. This is the Universal Flag that Allah gave to us in the West;The SUN, MOON, and STAR symbolizing Freedom, Justice and Equality which results in Peace! We the Muslims in the West have a Duty to Allah by re-establishing The Nation of Islam which would naturally cause us to admonish those that are weak in thier faith that only ALLAH is in a state of Worthyness to be obeyed, not Military Power, Political Power or Money. To call Humanity back to the way of thy Lord not by strapping bombs to our bodies, nor picking up the Gun which will not even avail those that manufacture them for the Quraan teaches us that every Nation has a term and when their term is up they cannot delay it or precipitate it. Allah respited Satan till the day they (the Dead) are raised(into the knowledge of his reality) and cause those that are raised to work to organize against the work of deceiving that he was permitted to do for the past 4000 years especially the last 449 years, thats a long time to shape consciousness. The Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) halted that for nearly a thousand years until this Hemisphere was conquered and subdued and developed into a force to be reckoned with. The Snake has indeed become a Dragon that spews fire(lies, Deception, evil) out of it's mouth. Disturbing the peace all over the earth. Maybe our focus is different, but I pray to Allah every day that the Righteous will Unify and whatever differences that we have we should resolve to settle them on the other side of this world, perhaps when we get on the other side we might learn that all of our methods led to one place- Allah's Bosom.
Love to All as I leave you as I greeted you;
As Salaam Alaikum!
Posted by Sarfarrazz El-Shabazz at December 30, 2003 01:08 PM

As Salaam Alaikum to all!
First, Let's begin all things with Allahs' Illustrious name!!
Okay MUSLIMS, lets not turn this beautiful topic into an insulting exchange of words which does not solve issues. Alot of what I'm reading from the participants in this dialog says to me that alot of you are not reading well what others are saying and trying to say. Whenever one reads the beautiful message of the Quran they should then take a good look at how things are in the present moment of reality and really try hard to correct erroneous thinking first within themselves then outside of themselves, The Holy Quran says that "had we wish to take a pasttime from among ourselves we would have, nay We(the Righteous) hurl Truth at falsehood til it knocks out it's brains" Hurling Truth at falsehood is what we try to do, but Truth is "Living" and it must be discovered from moment to moment, Truth is never the same but each time you discover it, it is the same. Some truths that were true yesturday can prove untrue today, so we must always seek truth if we are truly the "righteous". We the Muslims know that Islam is for everyone regardless of color, class, sex, station in life, have or have not, etc.... We the Muslims know that in Islam all are "Equally" before the LAW, but the Quran also teaches that Allah has exalted some above others and HE has chosen Some to excel in excellence over others, He also states in His Quran that whenever HE exalts you or raise you up in degrees over others it serves as a trail for you and others and if you stay firm and perserver under trial you will have your reward from Him. But if you fall back, Allah says He is Self-Sufficient having no need of you so He can chose other than you for his Glory. As I stated before and I'll state again, If it had not been for White-Supremacy Idealogy or Euro-centric Domination or Colonialism or Slavery or the Exaltation of the color "WHITE" and the demonization of "BLACK" in the world that we presently know, especially here in America, there never would have been a "NEED" to state "ACTUAL FACTS" concerning the origin of Color and Races. It is truly amazing that while the educational system was feeding people of color a distorted and false view of history about themselves their never was such a furor coming from the muslim world about "Islam not recognizing race differences and theres no color issues in Islam". Had the Muslim world did what they were commanded to do perhaps Colonialism and Slavery would not have happened, a case in point about Slavery; the kind of Slavery that I am referring to is the kind that strips one from their Humanity, robing them of the Nature that Allah created them in, causing them to hate themselves and hate what Allah created them to be, the kind of Slavery that forces one who's enslaved to set up rivals to Allah by looking at thier owners as Lord and Master. The Holy Quran says setting up rivals to ALLAH is the greatest sin and Allah says he forgives everything other than that. So how angry must ALLAH be that we The so-called American Negro were forced to call the White Slave makers "Master" and were forced to Hate our color and nation which was based on Lies and Falsehoods. We had to endure that onslaught for four centuries and continue to endure the result of such lies. Now that we are setting the record straight by the Grace of ALLah we must endure the resistance of a mind corrupted by racism; another case in point; racism is when to subdue another race in order to uplift your own usally based on lies and pre-judgements(perjudices) The Honorable Elijah Muhammad told the truth about White people and the origin of races not to denigrate or subdue the White race or any other race but to break-up that mind set built on falsehood. There are some Black folks that are so happy to here the truth about races that they run out there and make fun and insult other races which is not the right thing to do but hey, when you've been injesting a false doctrine for so many centuries and when truth comes and that truth is in your favor it can make you proud and if your not careful arrogant, but the balancing force of Islam if they practice it will cause them to grow beyond color conscience and racial importance into ALLAH where all are ONE. When the Nation of Islam hosted the Islamic Conference the Muslims who traveled here learnt that. In the teachings of Paul in the Bible(NEW Testament) he says in Christ there is no Male, no Female, no Bond, no Free, ALL are One in CHRIST. Oneness doesn't mean that you don't recongize the differences in the Human Family or that you don't see Color, it means you recognize that all are One in ALLAH that to HIM is the Return. Slavery as we know it today and Colonilism was not a reality in Muhammad ibn Abdullah's time, Africa was not subdued and conquered and the West was not founded by Europeans and Aficans were not chattel in his time. Racism among the Arabs was just beginning to show it's ugly head but certainly we did not have a whole world created as a result of White dominance and Supremacy. Please lets discuss this with truth and be amicable towards each other and Please lets deal with what a person in writing; many of you are in such a rush to respond from emotion that you go off the issue that is being discussed and this makes the dialog appear like foolish talk among fools and I do not want to engage in that kind of a fools game. The Great Light of Islam is to capture the hearts and minds of the Western Hemisphere by the Muslims unity and the "WORK" that they do from their Unity. But I must hasten to tell you that ALLAH has chosen and raised the DEAD(NEGRO) to life that we may lead the Righteouse back to the straight path of ALLAH and restore all things unto HIM. We would like the Help of the Muslims who migrated here and the Muslim World to accomplish our goal, we are are also soliciting the Help of all the Righteous regardless to what they call themselves to accomplish this great endeavor, but if no one helps us due to envy or believing what our open enemy says or does remember ALLAH is sufficient for ALL our needs. But why shouldn't the Muslims help us since ALLAH brought them out of great Ignorance and Polytheism and Idolatry into a Great Nation that advanced Mathematics, Science, Medicine, Astronomy, Acedemics, and so many other advances. The Western world with all it's techonology is detroying the world and raping the planet of is life in the face of a mighty nation that was suppose to Guard against evil and enjoin Good. Evil prospers so long as Good does nothing. Let this be a Year 2004 when we the Righteous show our resolve for ALLAh's Good Pleasure and stop this unnecessary critizism over an Ideology that is necessary in this time period we are living in.
May ALLah bless each one you to "Hear" the words that you read in this post and not go off on some tangent taking it somewhere else! I leave you as I greeted you "As Salaam Alaikum"
Posted by Sarfarrazz El-Shabazz at January 12, 2004 11:42 AM

As Salaam Alaikum to All,
Please forgive the mis-spellings in my post as they may add to the mis-understandings. Re-read it slowly so that you may correct the spellings as you read. Again, may Allah bless each of us to Hear the words in our post to one another.
Peace to All, Salaam Alaikum!
Posted by Sarfarrazz El-Shabazz at January 12, 2004 11:53 PM

As Salaam Alaikum to All,
Let's Begin All things with Allahs' Illustrious Name.
To Mr. Brad,
Please tell me or illustrate to me the lies that the Nation of Islam teaches. Also, Please illustrate to me how the Nation of Islam's teaching causes individuals to Cover themselves w/sheets and terrorize Whites, or any other race. In the 74 year History of the Nation of Islam can you find any history of provocation to violence or to harm anyone based on their skin color. When you make assertions you should back them up w/truthful facts. We can illustrate the violence perpetuated by the KKK against Blacks and Jews and the error in thier thinking which causes them to HATE non-whites, thier thinking is the thinking of IBLIS who thought himself better(Superior) because of some physical characteristic. That is based on falsehood. You say the essence of the scriptures is on worshipping God and living a dignified life. Have you observed the FOI or the MGT-GCC or any of the Conventions of the Nation of Islam, surely you'll observe Men and Women who are dignified, clean externally and internally. The great Transformation of Human life wrought by the Teachings of Islam as taught by the Honorable Elijah Muhammad and his Ministers is so well documented that it shocks me that anyone in this modern age of the internet where information is so readily available to anyone seeking truth could fall victim to deceit and lies.
Let's go step by step over the Teachings that you believe are lies and evil.if you read the Bible and Understand the Coming of the Son of Man you'll have to bear witness that the Book of Isaiah says that He comes with a Government on his shoulders, this implies Politics which is the supplying of the needs of the people, The Holy Quran also is a Book instructing how to conduct a Nation which also is Political. Just because the way that the Devil conducts Politics is Evil doesn't mean Politics in and of itself is Evil, if you have righteous individuals conducting the affairs of a Nation you will have righteous Politics. Jesus also taught that Thy Kingdom come on EARTH as it is in HEAVEN. Go to the dictionary and study the word HEAVEN, read specifically the Christian Science definition where it states that HEAVEN is where Divine Mind is manifest. That means that if Human beings will allow themselves to be purified and transform thier minds and align thier Mind w/ALLAHs' good pleasures you will see Heaven on Earth. This has always been the Teaching of the Nation of Islam,the core teachings and it's Ultimate goal and pursuit. The only area of controversy and misunderstanding is the Teaching on the origin of Races and how White people came into existence and why they were brought into existence and how that purpose has come to an end and the Time and what must be done, Also on the Nature of God and his relationship to MAN(Wo-MAN), also on the Wheel, its function and reality. Also, on the Messengership of Elijah Muhammad and if he actually Met with God face to face as he claims. We who are his students believe that what he taught is Truth and nothing but the Truth and it is incumbent upon us to defend the Truth that he taught with what you have with you namely the Bible, Quran, Dictionary, the very Cells in your body, Mathematics, Science, Chemistry, Biology, Theology, the Very material of Matter. Even archeology, anthropology, Astronomy and Testimonies of individuals who have gone out to verify these truths. If you believe these teachings to be false what are you going by? Extract some of the teachings and lets disect them to expose whether or not they are rooted in truth or falsehood. We are Lovers of Truth and we are eager to understand it better so we can bring ourselves in line with it.
Anxiously awaiting your response,
May Allah Bless us to arrive at Over-standing instead of under-standing, and please lets keep this dialog focused on what we're discussing.
I leave you as I greeted you,Salaam Alaikum!
Posted by Sarfarrazz El-Shabazz at January 13, 2004 12:10 PM

As Salaam Alaikum to All, Let's begin with Allahs'
Illustrious Name.
To Ms. Windy,
First I was moved by your story and sincerely desire that you did not have to experience what you experienced. Rape and torture is evil and the person committing such is sick and depraved. In Islam a person is put to death for committing an act of Rape as they should be. The womb of any Woman is sacred, to violate that which is sacred not only offends man but it is a great offense to Allah. There are so many individual instances similar to yours and there are so many individual people like those who you have encountered that display compassion and maturity, for it is compassion and maturity that enables one to look beyond a person's race and nationality to deal with them for who they are as an individual. Most of the times when I write about races and White supremacy I certainly am not speaking about every individual who is White, that would be silly for I don't know every White person in the world, I am speaking collectively. Now I wanted to get to your last paragraph where you stated that you were under the assumption that races where the result of an ability within Eve to produce races and this was God's doing and to give Satan credit would be to rob God of his power to create. I would say that if you believe that Eve in the book of Genesis is the First Women in creation then perhaps this is where the first error lies, truly. Please understand that the Book of Genesis is the First Book of Moses who was here on Earth approximately 4000 years ago which would be 2000 BC, now it should be understood that Moses is speaking to a people about thier origin and purpose. He is not giving you the geneologies of Humanity for that would have to be put into Volumes and Volumes of Books considering that Humanity has been on Earth for billions even trillions of years, he is dealing with the making of a new Man and Woman who where just brought into existence 4000 BC. Now the ability to produce races indeed was in the Black Woman from the very beginning but since the dominate germ will always dominate, the recessive germ never was able to manifest until a Black scientist was given the Idea to bring this recessive germ into existence and this is the beginning of how races can to be and certainly if he overcame all oppositon to his idea then Almighty Allah was with him to bring this about; He must of had a divine purpose overall. To bring about races and expose what was in the Black Nation gives us a better overstanding of the reality of the Oneness of Allah for in the Absolute realm all exist as it is, there is no such concepts of right and wrong, good or bad, evil or good, up or down, right or left all exist as it is, but since the material existence is in the relative we can now define up and down, etc. The Black scientist who's idea it was to bring into existence this dormant gene and give it a wisdom to enable it to dominate and subdue the earth had to be a wisdom the earth did not know for prior to White peoples advent all that the people knew was what we consider to be righteousness and peace. They did not know guilt as a result of wrongdoing nor did they know sin(transgression from Law) so since Allah is a Master Mathemitician and Scientist he is always looking to perfect his creation, this is what allowed the Black scientist to overcome his contemporaries to bring about his will, ALLAH was with him, this is what the Name ISRAEL means: He prevailed with God, not in righteousness but in that which is now known as un-righteousness. Lying, Murdering, Deceiving all those things that takes us away from the state of peace and harmony and balance. But since we are at the end of that purpose we now can choose those things which are conducive to peace, harmony, love, freedom, justice, equality since we have been givin a thorough course in that which brings chaos, confusion, dis-harmony, hatred, bondage, oppression, un-justice and un-equality. If we can rise above our emotion of hurt and pain to see Allahs' overall plan to bring about perfection we would outgrow race and nationality to embrace our Cosmic and Galactic identity as the most supreme conduit to express and Manifest ALLAH. The very word Religion comes from a latin word Ligaree which means to bind or join and the prefix re means again, thereore religions purpose are methods to bring Man(Wo-man) back into the state of Oneness from whence they came, to bind them again. This also means that at one point they were that, until something happend to sever the ties that binded them; they transgressed or sin entered into the world and death by sin. But we are in the day of Life through Obedience to the WILL of ALLAH.
May Allah bless us with Overstanding as I leave you as I greeted you "AS Salaam Alaikum"
Posted by Sarfarrazz El-Shabazz at January 18, 2004 06:28 PM

I did not respond to the erroneous statement made about Minister Farrakhan calling Judaism a gutter religion, no matter how much truth is shed on that it still is stated as though it is fact, so it is clear that truth is not what is sought after only besmerching his Name and reputation. Just the same goes for Anti-Semitism after giving the meaning of Semite it seems ridiculous to call him anti-semitic. What has you research yeilded you?

I leave you as I greeted you "Salaam Alaikum"

As Salaam Alaikum to All,

I just wanted to discuss with those who are on this post something I've been studying: The calendrical systems of the world is a very fascinating aspect of history that can reveal alot of wisdom. When you study the Jewish Calendar they are in the year 5764 or something like that, they say they get that date from adding the ages throughout the scriptures to the beginning of Adam. I've stated before that Adam in the Book of Genesis is not referring to the beginning of Humanity but the beginning of a New Man(Wo-man), Jewish people are not Hebrews, they speak Hebrew and follow the traditions of the Hebrews not because they are Hebrews but because Moses was a Hebrew who taught them and civilized them and put them onto the road of conquering the Earth. He gave them Ten Commandments and Rituals to follow so that they would not forget the TIME. They went in among the Hebrews and learnt all about them. As I was studying their Calendar they gave a chronology of events in their history and when it came to thier time in Egypt it only gave 161 or so years and I pondered over when did they spend 400 years in bondage there, when did they lose their language, culture, knowledge of themselves. They still speak Hebrew and they still can trace their history back to the Hills and Cavesides of Europe. So when did they lose their Identity. Jewish people are indeed organized and thier endeavors are well funded and they have held power for the past 4000 years, Jewish people hold power over Media; print and visual, they control CBS, NBC, ABC, IPS. They control the Federal Reserve System and the Iternational Monetary Fund. I hope that stating these things will not cause individuals to start attacking me as a conspiracy theorist, but those who are in college or those who are researchers please study Congressman Mcfadden's statement concerning the Federal Reserve System and Study the Banks that make up the FRS. Study how Money is created and what backs up the Treasury Bonds and who holds those Treasury Bonds and how that is connected to the Internal Revenue System and the Social Security Administration and the Postal Code and the then study the Founding Fathers revolution and how they saw Banking Institutions and the issuance of Money and credit. Study the State of Isreal and the meaning of Isreal as I gave it in my previous post. Is this exposing truth or is this an attack on Jewish people because of envy. I certainly do not envy anyone especially Jewish people, I would not want to be in their shoes for nothing in this world. I do hope that the good among them will align themselves with the rest of the Righteous to bring an end to a world that was build on deception and lies. Isreal is NOT a GOOD name, it means Supplanter, Deceiver, one who stole his brothers birthright, and since the Jewish people have had the scriptures in thier possession for 4000 years I can not trust that what we have is truth completely considering the name Isreal and his history.

I leave you as I greeted you As Salaam Alaikum.

dear farrakhan,
sallam alaykum,
i wish to talk islam with farrakhan with pictorial effidencies of what i want to discuss with him.we need him to sponsor some of our printing matters for the JAMATU YA LATEEF UNITED FRONT OF NIGERIA.of which i am the founder/imam of the front.we need your picture,postal address and email address to mail the sample to your honour.like hijrah calender prayer pamphlet and stickers which will have your picture and other personalties in u.s.thanks looking forward to hearing from you.
t.sheikhdeen.
the missioner of the front.

Hmmm... None of you know me, but I'm 23 and I was just browsing online, looking for some info. Someone told me that Louis Farrakhan had ties to the Institute for Historical Review (an accusation I had not heard before, and one I sought to investigate). Does anyone here know if this is true? Anyway, I just came across this forum after doing a google search on Farrakhan's name.

You guys might do well to have a young Jewish voice in the midst of your debates. You have nobody here to address the (often cheap) accusations you throw in the direction of Jewish people as a whole. I think it would be a waste of my time to try and refute ALL of the cheapshots that pepper the above postings, but I will mention just two for now.

Tineen, for one, writes that Judaism is a "gutter religion," and suggests to Eric that this is so irrefutable as to be self-evident.
>>"He called the religion they practiced a gutter a religion. This is absolutely true. How can you regute this eric." (Punctuation & spelling not mine.)
Tineen, I am NOT writing your quote here because I instinctively take all criticism of Israel to be anti-Semitic, anti-Jewish, etc. That is simply untrue, and I welcome all healthy, relevant debate. You might consider, however, that if any politician from the Western world (esp. one who was white) called Islam a "gutter religion" due to the many inquities perpetrated on behalf of the Muslim faith, you would probably be the first to label this person a racist and a hate-monger. Am I wrong here?
P.S. I am not politically correct, in any way, shape, or form, so don't bother using the weak justification that Farrakhan was just cutting through the bullshit with his statements.

Sarfarrazz El-Shabazz, on the other hand, writes:
"Isreal is NOT a GOOD name, it means Supplanter, Deceiver, one who stole his brothers birthright[.]" Elsewhere, he claims that Moses civilized the Jews "and put them onto the road of conquering[!!!] the Earth."

My friend, I have read your rather weak justifications for the above comments, and whether you admit to it or not (and I am quite sure that you won't) the things that you write are plainly racist. Sarfarrazz, I think your conception of Jewish history and ancestry borders on retarded. You are unconvincing when you state that Moses was a Hebrew and the Jews weren't, or when you state for no reason that many Jews can trace their families back to the "hills and cavesides" of Europe. So what? These folks are descendants of the Middle Eastern Jews just the same. If you are so naive as to wonder why the Jews have set up profitable establishments wherever they go, and that they network so well amongst eachother, you might consider the fact that all the Jews were dispersed from highly-developed societies in the Middle East of antiquity, into areas which had not yet begun to thrive (like Eastern and Central Europe). By this point, most Jews had already developed a strong survival instinct )(their had been numerous attempts at their slaughter already), and they had been reading for millennia, while their host nations (which weren't even nations, often) still wouldn't reach that point for many, many years.

While occasionally you cite your facts well, the underlying thread of your comments is one of hatred and intolerance. People don't have to know they are racist in order to act (or write emails) in a racist manner. You write about Jews like they are some sort of strange alien force in the Middle East, rather than the immediate cousins of the Arabs. Jews are 12 tribes of people- black and white- who have been living in this area, if exiled for a while, for the last 4000 years.

Unless I know first that the members of this forum will welcome an unexpected voice to challenge what I see as some pretty dangerous invective, I won't continue with any further posts. I sincerely hope that all of you are mature enough to welcome criticism of these comments which you so casually toss each and every way. If not, that indicates more than enough about the beliefs you hold dear. Any belief that can't be defended without losing one's composure is worthless.

Sincerely,

Mark

A Treatise Concerning Minister Louis
FARRAKHAN, the Third Anti-Christ

Farrago, n. a disordered mixture. Far, adj. remote: more distant of two. Farrow n. a litter of pigs. Far-fetched, far-out, far cry, far from… Farce, n. comedy of extravagant humour, buffoonery, and improbability: ridiculous or empty show…
Khan, n. (in Persia) a governor.
Farrakhan, n. a False Ruler: “One who will create mischief and cause the shedding of blood…”

Satan – knowing that it would be amongst the Black people of the United States of America that the Messiah would make his appearance – has chosen one among that people to be his “Son”. The Anti-Christ is not (as is commonly intuited) some demonic, one-eyed Aryan eunuch seated before a bank of computer screens and controlling the Planet Earth through his “Mark of the Beast, 666/WWW” Information System. Rather he is a peculiar individual, endowed with an acute understanding of the strategic place that America’s Black people occupy within the divine tapestry of International Geopolitics and Biblical Prophecy (“And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs…” Gen. 15:13) and the point in time at which to install himself among that people in a manner that will deceive them into believing that he is their (and the World’s) long-awaited Deliverer.

In order to effectively and convincingly impersonate or counterfeit the Coming Messiah – a Black Messiah – Satan will have to possess the soul of a Black Man. Black people – as the people who will give the World the Christ/Saviour – will also give it the Great Impostor-Saviour, the Counterfeit Messiah, the Anti-Christ. This Anti-Christ will, of necessity, have to be a Black Man in order to pose as the expected Messiah. He will “shadow” the True Messiah and attempt to configure his own nature and works according to those expected of the Messiah. He, too, has identified America’s Black people as the Biblical “Lost Sheep” and has come among them “as a thief in the night”, dressed in their “clothing”. He has shrewdly worked out that America is the “Babylon” of the Book of Revelations and the setting in which the Christ is to make his appearance. That diabolically ingenious Black Man, that “Son of Satan”, is none other than the U.S. Nation of Islam leader, Minister Louis Haleem Abdul Farrakhan. Indeed, the very name ‘Louis Farrakhan’ is one of the names of Satan. Phonetically coded in the name ‘Louis Farrakhan’ lurks the ancient name of the devil – Lucifer. The name ‘Luci-fer’ was prophetically and phonetically derived or extrapolated from “Louis-Farr”, the moniker of a Future Deceiver. This future “Man of Sin” would have his title and role contained in his very name i.e. Khan. The letter ‘L’ (for ‘Louis’) is the 12th letter of the alphabet and the letter ‘F’ (for ‘Farrakhan’) is its 6th letter. 12 plus 6 is 18 – as is 6 plus 6 plus 6. The letters ‘L, F’ are the numbers ‘12,6’. 6 times 6 times 6 is 216 – the “Numbers of the Name”. Additionally, 1 plus 2 plus 6 is 9 – the exact number of letters in the name ‘F.A.R.R.A.K.H.A.N’. He was born on May 11, 1933 – the same year that the Second Anti-Christ, Adolf Hitler, became Chancellor of Germany. By further deciphering the Akashic Script we find that the last two letters of Anti-Christ II’s first name, ‘ADOLF’, happen to be the initials of his successor, Anti-Christ III – Louis Farrakhan, (as well as the first and fifth letters in the name ‘Lucifer’). And 1 plus 5 makes 6 – the Number of the Beast. The Third Anti-Christ further complements His Predecessor by borrowing the initials of his middle names, ‘Abdul’ and ‘Haleem’, from those of the Nazi leader, Adolf Hitler, and perfects the symmetry by ensuring that the number of letters in those respective names match each other exactly – 5 letters in Adolf/Abdul & 6 letters in Hitler/Haleem (with the matching letters in either pair of names – A, D, L & H, L, E – totalling 6). The letters A, D and L also happen to form the acronym of both Adolf Hitler and Louis Farrakhan’s eternal nemesis, the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith. As for the name ‘Farrakhan’, consider its phonetic structure: FAR-RAK-HAN. The letter ‘A’ (for ‘Antichrist’) appears three times throughout the name at precise intervals and mirrors the triune signature of the Beast, ‘666’. The balance of the letters (F, R, R, K, H and N) are 6 in number. The title of the Second Anti-Christ, “Fuhrer”, also has phonetic features in common with the name of his successor, ‘Farrakhan’. The letters F, H, R, R are found lurking in both “titles” and have the same abrasive effect as they roll off the tongue. It is no coincidence that Islam is said to have been the only religious doctrine that Adolf Hitler admired (suggesting some foreknowledge that the continuum of his own counter-Jewish revolution lay in the Islamic World and that his likely “Successor Anti-Christ” would be a “Mohammedan”), that the Fascist movements led by Anti-Christ’s II & III (National Socialism & Nation of Islam) have an eerily similar phonetic configuration: “NationalSocialism”/“NationofIslam”, that the Nazi ideology (National Socialism) contains two of the names of its successor doctrine (“Nation” and “Islam”) and that Farrakhan came to prominence as the direct result of complimentary remarks he made about his “Predecessor Anti-Christ”, Adolf Hitler (when, in 1984, he described the Nazi leader as “a very great man”). Finally, Louis Farrakhan is the highest profile international figure who has come to be defined by what he opposes. His beliefs are universally affixed with the “Anti-” prefix (anti-White, anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic, anti-government, etc.) such that the very name ‘Farrakhan’ and the “Anti-” prefix have become virtually synonymous and provide a clue as to his Ultimate Identity: the Anti-Christ himself.

The Reader may well pose the question, “What crime has Minister Louis Farrakhan (or Lucifer Khan) committed which would warrant so extreme a characterisation of him as “the Devil’s Son”? Has he murdered as many people as Hitler did? Has he oppressed as many souls as the Western nations have? Has he robbed, raped and pillaged as the Jews and Mongols are known to have done? So why call Farrakhan the Devil’s representative?” The greatest crime that anyone can commit – far surpassing in iniquity even genocide of the entire Human Population – is to knowingly and fraudulently IMPERSONATE the Son of Man or Christ. To deceive mankind into believing that one is the Messiah when one is not is to afflict mankind with a fate worse than death. It is to deceive not just the present generation but future generations and, by so doing, sentence them to death at God’s hand. This is the monumental crime of which Louis Farrakhan – and his soon-to-return “spiritual father”, Elijah Muhammad – is guilty.

Farrakhan, regrettably, is correct in his claims that Elijah Muhammad is still physically alive and set to make an earth-shattering Return. This 9/11-like event is going to astound the World and establish a temporary global dictatorship under the reign of Muhammad and Farrakhan. Their Satanic Regime will govern Planet Earth sometime between now and the Cataclysm of December 2012. During this period Master W.D. Fard and his true apprentice, El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz, will also make a physical return and bring an end to that reign of Spiritual Terror. The wicked Muhammad-Farrakhan (or “Muhammakhan”) Administration is going to establish a planetary theocracy during whose tenure the unprecedented persecution of all of its opponents will occur, finally culminating in a Manichean showdown between Muhammakhan and Shabazz-Fard.

A number of criminally irresponsible American politicians and personalities have been quietly paving the way for the coming into being of the neo-Islamic Muhammakhan regime. The most active proponent of this development is one Jude Wanniski. One of the few Whites who regularly appears on the dais at Farrakhan’s rallies, Wanniski has cajoled and pressured a number of leading White American journalists, politicians and opinion-makers to embark upon a “reassessment” of Elijah Muhammad’s demonic apprentice, Louis Farrakhan. In delivering White American Republican and Democrat politicians to Farrakhan Wanniski seeks to eternally endear himself to the N.O.I. leader and position himself as the future Grand Vizier and Eminence Grise behind the Muhammakhan throne, playing the Jane Seymour role of ‘Solitaire’ to Farrakhan’s ‘Mr Big’ (as seen in the “blaxploitation” James Bond movie, ‘Live and Let Die’). This coterie of Political Gangsters have sought to exploit the September 11, 2001 Terror Attacks/Operation Iraqi Freedom campaign (and their global fallout) as the catalyst for the inauguration of the Muhammakhan Theocracy. The aftermath of these events has been quietly used to consolidate the “legitimisation” of Lucifer Khan (Farrakhan) as the new “Pat Robertson” of American religio-political conservatism, establish this demagogue as the principal global power broker between the West and the Islamic World and eventually enthrone him as America’s Spiritual Fuhrer.

Thereafter, and with the November 7, 2004 elections looming, the two (or more) candidates for the US Presidency will come grovelling on hands-and-knees seeking electoral favours from this most sinister of seducers, Minister Lucifer Khan. The next President of the US could find himself dangerously indebted to the N.O.I. leader and effectively presiding over a de facto Louis Farrakhan Administration – unimaginable as that may seem. Having long since convinced himself that the US Government is set to furnish the seat of the coming “Kingdom of God” (masked by commentators like Wanniski as a “Political Realignment”), Louis Farrakhan – of all people – could well find himself in a position to hand pick each appointee to the winning candidate’s cabinet. Crucially, this would place Farrakhan in a position to influence a change of leadership at the US Federal Reserve and thus make possible the realisation of Wanniski’s long-cherished goal: the radical restructuring of the global economy around the Gold Standard as the moral and fiscal foundation of the New Global Order.

There is an additional (and all too under-appreciated) danger posed by the Muhammakhan Movement and that is its obsession with Unidentified Flying Objects or UFO’s. However preposterous and far-fetched the Muhammakhan claims about these objects may strike most people it needs to be recognised that in the unlikely event that these objects turn out to be genuine there is no religio-political movement anywhere on Earth better positioned to capitalise on, and exploit, the mass planetary hysteria and panic that will attend any appearance or manifestation of authentic UFO’s (and turn itself into a Global Power for having been the most steadfast, vocal and public advocate of their existence) than Muhammakhan. Simply by having so shamelessly and publicly identified himself with the UFO phenomenon no single personality on Earth has better pre-positioned himself to vastly enhance his own global standing in the event of the confirmation of the authenticity of UFO’s (and the ensuing global delirium) than Lucifer Khan. Minister Farrakhan could, suddenly and without warning, emerge as the single most powerful figure on Earth should it turn out that, after all of the ridicule and scorn heaped on the phenomenon, UFO’s do exist and are, indeed, extra-terrestrial in origin. It is for this reason alone that the UFO phenomenon should be taken seriously. The price to a public figure’s reputation of being universally associated with what are considered “lunatic” beliefs (and scorned for so doing) pales into complete and utter insignificance when set against the enormous power and influence that would accrue to that individual (and the immeasurable potential for its abuse) should his/her supposedly absurd beliefs in, and claims about, the “Supernatural” turn out to be true. Muhammakhan long ago made a Strategic Calculation to openly identify with the UFO phenomenon (“The Wheel”) knowing that, should its gamble pay off, it will do so handsomely.

Should either of these scenarios unfurl the succeeding years will be a blur during which time America will sink into the most abject and depraved religious fanaticism as the shadowy and satanic Muhammakhan Theocracy takes hold, with millions of delirious Americans hailing F6rr6kh6n as their Messiah, and setting their seal on the Anti-Christ’s reign.

THIS IS PROPHECY AND A CLEAR WARNING TO THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA & THE WORLD

Here's some interesting facts about this pig.

He is a racist who made disparaging remarks about Christianity and Judaism.
He called Judaism a gutter religion.
He said Christianity enslaves Africans.
He claimed that he had a 'vision of being swept into a UFO that took him to a larger mothership' that told him to have the Million Man March (1995).
He charged an $11 registration fee and a $3.99 per minute 900 call (avg. 3 minutes) to participate in the march.
He owes $1,500,000 in back taxes.
He calls white people 'Devils' and black people 'Gods.'
He's conned thousands of black people out of money.
Their donations paid for his 77 acre Michigan Estate, his Lexus, Rolls Royce and Lincolns.

This guy is manipulator using my brothers and sisters for personal gain, politically as well as monitarily. We laugh at this wolf in sheeps clothing here in the Virgin Islands. While he may be a good orator that does not make him a righteous human being!! Wake up before it's too late. Mhite and Black brothers need to avoid this hater!

PEACE TO ALL ALL YOU WHITE LUVING HATERS NEED TO WAKE UP IT WAS THE WHITES AND JEWS WHO IN SLAVED OUR MINE AND BODY THE HONORABLE ELIJH MUHAMMAD GAVE US THE NO HOW TO BE A STRONG BLACK RACE IN THE NAME OF ALLAH PEACE

At some time, Ishmael (father of the Arabs) finally devised a religion to contend with Judaism and Christianity in Islam (false religion). Islam (false religion) is based on one big lie: "that Ishmael is the promise seed of Abraham". Islam has taken even more critism since it's adoption by the NOI (false religion). The NOI (false religion) is nothing more than lies on top of lies: "the black man is the original man". Since everyone knows that Issac was the promise seed of Abraham, Why even bother Eastern Islam (false religion) or American Islam (false religion).

After the fall of Israel, Essau (father of the edomites) as well devised a false religion based on one big lie: "that Essau is the promise seed of Issac", even stolen his twin brothers name, identity, land, and history.

It is Ishmael and Essau (both frauds) who are fighting over blessings (land) that belong to neither one.

It apperas that my comments have been disregarded by the "Pied Pipers' who benifit from the destruction of black Masses. This criminal hybrid has emerged to intensify the self hatred taught to us by our old masters. When dicovering the freedom from black Consiousness we are left to see that that those who promulgate such filth. Are maintiaing and benifiting from the system that has oppressed us.
Where are the "lively" Rappers they all seem to demonstrate a slave menatlity.

Oh yea,

Why bother with Farrakhan (a false prophet)?

After the fall of Israel, The Roman Catholic Church (Mother of Harlots) as well devised a false religion based on one big lie: "that the Pope is the replacement of Christ". Why bother with Catholism or even Protestants (her daughters)when both are false religions? And worst, why bother with the Pope (The Fase Prophet)?

If you want true religion just ask!

Islam favors Arabs, Judaism favors Essau (fake/white Jew), Catholism favors Italians and gentiles (whites), NOI favors blacks (african americans). Blacks appeal to the NOI (rastafarian is second)because its a race religion like the previous false religions I just named above.

If you want true religion just ask!

Since Ive spoken the truth about Ishmael (father of the Arabs), Eastern Islam (false religion), American Islam/NOI (fale religion), Farrakhan (a false prophet).

Essau (father of the edomites---fake/white Jew), Judaism (false religion).

Their (Ishmael and Essau) fight over blessings (land) which belong to neither one.

Roman Catholic Church (great whore/mother of harlots)and the Protestants (her daughters/Sunday churches), and the Pope (The False Prophet/man of perdition). His (The Pope) desire to be God.

No one has seem to respond, Im surprised at how the truth really shuts things done.

P.S.-If you want true religion just ask!

When will we discuss the truth about the sub-saharan slave trade. Where millions of africans were sold and exploited by arabs. When reviewing this historical fact we are able to see that it can not be called a "Black Mans" religon.

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Where are those who are willing to stand up and protect the innocent lives of Africans in the Sudan. Why has the Islamic community in America gone silent, have they never heard of the Sub-Saharan Slave trade. How would the patriarch Bilal look upon these developments?

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