May 11, 2004
Another View on the Demise of Rawkus
There's been much discussion lately on the rise and fall of Rawkus Records, thanks to recent pieces in XXL and the Village Voice (which some found less than satisfying). So I dug up my 2001 interview with Mr. Walt and Evil Dee of the Beatminerz, where they gave an insider's take on what went wrong within the Rawkus empire. Suffice it to say they didn't mince words:
And here's a little bonus from the same interview, where I got Evil Dee to tell the story of his secret meeting with Vanilla Ice (during a discussion of The Source's list of alltime greatest beats):
- Evil Dee on how the Boot Camp Clik wound up at Vanilla Ice's house.
(Sidenote: it's trippy for me to listen to this since it was recorded 4 days before 9/11.. crazy to think we were sitting there in the studio which is/was about 5 blocks from the World Trade Center, having no idea what was coming. I wish I had taken a minute to walk by just one more time..)
Posted by jsmooth995 at May 11, 2004 02:17 AM
Audio isn't working for me, but maybe that's just my connection.
Milo
Posted by: Milo at May 11, 2004 06:32 AM
both links are of the same segment...
this was definitely one of the most fun interviews we had ever done...those two need a comedy act or somethin...and wow i didn't realize how close that was to 9/11
Posted by: Damali at May 11, 2004 09:04 AM
"Big hats and big sodas for everyone"
brilliant.
Posted by: nagin at May 11, 2004 10:03 AM
> both links are of the same segment...
yeah they're both about going to vanilla ice's house
Posted by: ian at May 11, 2004 02:08 PM
actually the second one was going to the rawkus part, but now it is fixed..
Posted by: jay smooth at May 11, 2004 04:16 PM
Haha, man, the links are working at home - these dudes is hilarious.
Milo
Posted by: Milo at May 11, 2004 05:30 PM
Damali hit Evil Dee with the low blow(pause): "you dont even have a car".
Evil Dee shoulda took some records out Ice's studio. He probably had some mint Bowie or Queen records.
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quimby u think that just cuz thats what he sampled??
Posted by: budgie at May 12, 2004 09:06 AM
Yeah budg, real quick on the uptake there bra.
Great stuff, jay - I'm definitely going to have to get more consistent about listening to the show.
Posted by: David at May 12, 2004 09:47 AM
Jesus . . . I just went and looked at Rawkus's website. That shit is f*cking disturbing - The "Discography" section is pretty much exclusively Mos Def and Talib. It's almost like Stalin, the way they're meticulously erasing the past.
Actually, this is a long tradition with them - I remember one time picking up something from a used bin with the razor on it, but it looked strange - just a blue cover with some strange graphic of rocks on it. It didn't look like a hiphop album, and I'd never heard the name. So I checked it out, and sure enough, it was Nu Metal! I remember hearing that's how they started out, but good luck finding any indication of the fact - they probably burned all the records a month after they signed CoFlow.
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Posted by: Jay Smooth at May 24, 2004 04:54 PM
Can anyone access the Rawkus site anymore? All there is is an announacement for 'Beef' and Soundbombing 4.... scary.
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The links aren't working on my computer but someone tell me why Vanilla Ice is tryin to clown when he was a one hit wonder. That shit he put out was gay anyway. Evil Dee is the real deal. It looks like to me Ice would be askin Dee to make him some tight beatz.
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