September 02, 2004

Sage Francis on Buck 65's Comments

Someone posted my Buck 65 post on the Non Prophets message board, and some were expecting Sage Francis would come to Buck's defense in the thread. But (to his credit) Sage's comments turn out to be, umm, less than supportive:

...Buck has had his head up his arse for many years now.

I'm surprised he's going public with it.

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...Buck knows his hiphop. Yes, even Jeru. heh.

He has been into it since the early 80's, which is why I kinda cringe when I hear new jacks criticize him. He KNOWS his shit.

he just...is.....f**king up, man.

It's very difficult for me to comment on this shit knowing all the I know, so I should have just kept to myself....but those comments rubbed me so wrong. Just like him canceling the show in NYC without notifying me. And other shit too....

Hey Buckaroo....I know your manager or current hand-holder will read this to you:

get your head out of your pretentious asshole.

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...I understand what he is getting at, but he is taking the wrong steps.

It's insulting to think that he doesn't understand some people have and ARE doing what he says doesn't exist in hiphop.

before he learns and instrument he should relearn rhythm.

rappers are doing shit that can't even be transcribed in musical notation.

hiphop producers are breaking traditions and creating sub-cultures with innovation and ingenious technology.

He needs friends who aren't revolving door girlfriends. that's all.

My post has also sparked lively discussions on soulstrut.com, ILM, and the Restiform bodies message board, where the author of the Kerrang! article even popped in with his 2 cents.

Posted by jsmooth995 at September 2, 2004 05:32 PM | TrackBack
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Jay, i don't know if you caught my [other] response to Rob yesterday, but the interviewer *did* have a lot to do with that [disgraceful] rant. i wouldn't shrug any of this off, and i've been pretty clear on how i feel about his most recent work and actions, but i also show no mercy to irresponsible music journalists.

i posted a link to your post on a halifax-based board, and JoRun replied with this:

"Hello. This is Buck 65 writing in a pre-emptive attempt to address the little controversy brewing over my recent Kerrang! interview. If you haven't heard about it yet, you might soon. Basically, in the interview I said that hip hop people are ignorant, have no appreciation for other genres of music and that I'd be surprised if anyone could show me an example of a rapper that could read music. I'm apologizing for all that. I lost my cool on tape which is never good. The journalist was provoking me, calling me a sell-out and a whore. I was trying to make a point by playing devil's advocate, but I went way overboard. No hint of irony or roll-playing or intelligence came across in the story. Now I just look like an idiot. I take it back. I don't really believe any of that. I don't think being able to read music is a concern. Most of my favorite music was made by non-educated musicians. It doesn't matter. I still have heavy criticisms of most hip hop, but I really didn't make them well on this particular day. I put my foot in my mouth and I'm apologizing for that."

Posted by: Susana at September 2, 2004 08:20 PM

hold up -- my bad. that wasn't JoRun. and i just saw your note.

the internet is too instant-life for me sometimes. GEEZ.

xo

Posted by: Su at September 2, 2004 08:38 PM

Wow... all this talk about Rich is really going pretty far. I feel like im the only one out of everyone i've talked to about this that feels totally different about it.
I know rich since about 1991.. before anyone here was calling him buck. He was called DJ Critical (or Haslam) and we made beats together and went hunting for breaks. I recently produced some of the tracks on Talkin Honkey Blues as well. Everytime i see rich when he comes to halifax, we hang out and talk about library breaks and oldschool rareshit. I hardly believe he would have said any of that shit and meant it. Rich and i have been misinterpeted for a very long time in interviews. I'm shocked as to how many ppl i know personally were so quick to turn their back and say "man fuck rich for what he said"
That thought never even crossed my mind.
I knew some shit was going on behind the scenes for that to happen and there are 2 sides to every story. I'm still reading about it on websites and all and if anything, i'm appalled by how blown out of proportion this got.He lost his cool.. so what? we all do sometimes. Im hearing ppl call him a sellout for his comments on various websites and chatboards. Jesus.... why do ppl gotta make music so complicated?

leave the man alone already. he lost his cool. he apologized... get over it everyone.

Jorun

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i remember when we would listen to music without knowing everything about the artist. i don't know if that was better but its weird isn't it?

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