Buck 65 is setting a good example of how to handle such a situation. His irony was lost on people and people really seemed to assume he was being sincere.

It's too bad Defari didn't handle his own similar controversy -- when he dissed Aesop and others -- in such a diplomatic manner.

I am not a fan of Buck 65's music, but the response to his comments has been very enlightening and sometimes highly amusing. Some of those responses at SoulStrut are hilarious. People are so quick to get racial and take offense, but a few people stay above the fray like fark.

i am really impressed that the same person that made those ridiculous comments in the first place is also making a pretty humble apology. wow, most people who have the "public's" ear have a really hard time sincerely admitting the times they've been mind-numbingly stupid...

Who is Buck 65?
What does he do I guess is what am asking

I've never heard this dude before, so I can't comment on his music. 'Humble apology' it might seem, but I call bullshit. Even if he was 'provoked' by the journalist and 'lost his cool', it still doesn't excuse the extreme wackness of his comments. What he said was ridiculous. The same old, tired, ignorant idea that hip-hop isn't 'real music'. One of Jay's older posts dealt with Jack White saying the same bullshit. I definitely won't be buying any Buck 65 albums.

Not that I'm defending Rich or anything but Jesse - he's been a part of hip-hop a lot longer than most people have - no small feat condsidering that he comes from rural Canada - is it wack? you bet - and this is coming from someone who is a fan and has talked to him. He's an intelligent guy who has intelligent things to say - for the most part.

Just wanted to make it clear that Rich's bs does come from someone who had(has?) a LOT of love for the culture. Oh, and no I'm not ignoring the "ethnocentric" attitude that he's taking in fact it may be what prevents me from purchasing his albums in the future. But that's another matter.

Sandeep,
Stupidity and ignorance know no boundry, color or creed. Apparently that includes the Canadian border... I'd considered Jack White intellegent as well, and was let down by his very public ignorance. I mean, WTF?...havn't these dudes heard of a little band called The Roots? And that's just the tip of the iceburg.

Well, i dont think the apology was that surprising... it actually made sense: "Because I'm a snob and that�s what I'm looking for and what I appreciate. I'm as elitist a bastard as you could possibly find."
Does anybody smell irony? who in gods name would say that kind of thing and not be kidding? i'm just saying...

Dude, Buck 65, you are truly a man of honor. You don't see too many people actually taking full responsibilty for things they said, let alone apologize and admit to saying something stupid. Seriously, how many times have you lost your temper and said something totally lame. If you say you haven't yer a damn dirty liar. And certain people, are just bitches, and will take things personally because they want to, especially people who bathe in their own ignorance *cough*Jesse*cough* It's "whack" that someone who admits to his ignorance about an artist, then make biased remarks about his/her music. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, since you said as much, but I do listen to Buck 65, and the man loves hip hop more than most rappers out there, who I feel do it for the money, y'know, studio gangsters. But whatever, people make mistakes, and the fact that the man admitted to it and actually said he's sorry is a whole lot more than most people hardly ever do in life

Buck 65's music and many other Halifax-rooted hip-hop music is about as bearable as a bladder infection. I've read several posts in the forums on the linked sites citing Canada as a factor for why Buck 65's music is so atrocious (the "blame Canada" factor). People need to stop that shit. Know that Canada is a VERY diverse country consisting of 10 provinces and three territories and does not simply produce "rural" artists. We apologize for Ann Murray and Loverboy, but the entire country will not take responsibility for Buck 65. That's Halifax's doing.

HAHA! :)

Anybody who pays attention to his lyrics would already know that Buck's earlier comments were a bunch of tom-foolery. Lots of references to fine black music composed and performed by theory-ignorant people. The guy is too thoughtful to say such outrageous un-founded things with no real argument to back them up. I bet anyone who has listened to a fair amount of his music were like say what? nooooooooo...... Non-issue

My God, thank-you. I was so worried when I first read buck's commments. I was concerned that I would actually be forced to pistol whip one of my favorite musicians. Come to think of it, it seems so obvious now that he was joking I mean, the Roots are the obvious group that comes to mind...anyhow, long live hiphop. Peace

Buck 65 is always going to be an anticonquistador, a fucking prolific man, and should be listened too. i dont know what the song is called, probably doesnt even have a name. it starts. I wondered the fields. Anyway listen to that song, then explain to me double irony.

buck 65 is the shhhhhiz. i think he meant what he said in the fisrt interview but people took it wrong so he's forced to apologise. i agree with what he said. alot of "hip=hop" fans, haven't even heard the name coltrane or zappa or dose one. they only hear what gets commercial radio play and belive that thats the only "good" music out there. but like he said alot of them can't even read the music. a majority of them. it's a joke. i love hip hop don't ge me wrong, but where's the mozart's of hip hop???

This last comment is either sly piece of bait or the rantings of a culturally retrograde mind.

At the very least you could have asked where the new Beethoven is. Mozart?!?! You're joking, right? I'll admit... I am half laughing at the whatever-type of snotty boy irony that is.

ok ok ...... i sit here and read all this talk about who said what and why but the thing is ....... why would any of you take offense to that? you really think he was directing his apology to you ...... you better get your face out off that humble pie kids ...... i'm sure buck does not care about what a bunch of pimplefaced mountian dew drinkin kids on a message board think ....... i know i dont ..... this comment was mainly towards jesse and A LA ..... to eveybody who has never heard of buck65 listen to his shit .... he's dope ....... hes a centuar for christ sake

Well said andre (I think ha!), this is a man who knows his shit (as even Sage can attest to). I've met Richard before as well as seen him in many candid interviews. This outburst seems totally out of character for him and I'm sure it was nothing more than an ill-timed outburst to justify that he isn't among the commerical hip-hop artists. It probably seemed satisfying at the time but at least he realised the consequences. Anyone who is basing their 'musical' opinions of him on that comment without even giving his material a chance is truly missing out.

in response to eric's question of "your joking right?" i'm only using examples. i could have said stravinsky too but do you even know who that is? most "retrograde minds" we're forced to watch Amadeus in thier history class. can't you relate? rebel boy, outcast from society, finds comfort only in writing massive symphonys in thier head. all i'm saying is, buck knows exactly what he means, just cause some numb assholes didn't understand him, he has to apologise to them, so's he can still sell records. the irony really exists in abuncha people posting comments on one persons opinion. but opinions are like assholes, everyones got one, and most people think everyones else's stinks.

No, but seriously.. you are joking right now, aren't you??

There is hardly any point in posting any further on this as all the numbskulls have hopefully been put in their place - if not then they're too stupid to have noticed. Buck 65 finally brings a bit of intelligence and humanity into Hip Hop, which to originally to its underground status is a trusted and accepted form of music to many people who consider themselves to run 'against the grain' so to speak. Unfortunately, all good things generally get commercialized and turned into wallpaper, mind numbing, run of the mill, middle of the road.... etc
i have had enough of monotoned, dull voiced, huge ego's ranting on about how hard they are, or of course there is the massively popular Dre / emimen / D12 scene where each track sounds identical to the last...
I figure that in each genre there are generally only a few greats, yet we should try and be aware that POST commercialization we have to keep our eyes & ears open for the new underground acts emerging because the press will only tell you what they want you to hear - as is the nature of the media.
and the irony of Buck 65 sailed way over Americas heads... such is the nature of Americans.

Andy Fonda, thank you for exemplifying that elitist lunacy that was always the achilles heel of the anticon subculture.

Sarcasm is pretty tough to deduce from reading an interview, but in this case Buck's tone of voice point to someone frustrated with his interviewer.

If you know Buck 65's music dating way back, you know that he gives respect to the foundation of hip-hop, as he should. But his jaded views on the current status of the music are valid. Take away the likes of the Roots, Outkast, Sage Francis,MF Doom, Anticon and others and you are left with a big pile of shitty mainstream hip-hop. It's a music with a lot of potential but so far its mostly untapped. I think Buck 65 is one of the few who is taking it to a new level.

"I listen to Tom Waits, Black Sabbath, MIles Davis. Legendary hornblower, asshole, style is famous."

Yes indeed the point has passed again. Three day cooling off period? I jest of course. O.k there is a nice little label called lumenessence if you like your small elitest type of thing. Bloke called sketchie, on mummy fortuna or rain by high lantern. lovely. I had him play at my club last month and he was lovely, got a stutter, which is impressive if you hear him rap. bye from an english fuck head.

Hey Jay smooth, That achilles heel has sold more records than any talent anticon has to offer.Do your research!!!

i forgot to write about what i was supposed to write about the last two times. I new i had a point, who woulda thunk of it. The mere fact that you have to a say sorry for what is probably true is an insult to the general evolution. Don't you think? Anticon was a label i stumbled on and stuck too, because the music made me go wobbly at the turntables, not because, i thought only three other people would own it. What does it matter who you sign to, as long as the fucking music is still good, and you still like making it. Was that the point? or was it that pointy thing back there?

463 is one of the best tunes of last year. buck 65 atmosphere and sage francis, make me think of why i loved audio 2 BDP and others way back when and whatever you think his record and 'that' ras kass tune along with jedi mind tricks and outerspace etc are producing some of the best thought provoking hip hop in 2004..

Good to see an apology. Rich gaffed ranting in front of a journalist, admitted it and now the world can move forward!?
The comments by 'concerned' hiphop fans are bizarre and a little sad.
"I don't know who this BUCK 65 is, but I feel obligated to comment on something I know nothing about."

My goodness, Buck 65 is awesome and a lovely chap. I supported him in Birmingham in April in the UK and he was thoroughly pleasent chap, his music is awesome and his lyrics are mesramising.

Have you never said anything you didn't mean/want to and had to apologise??????

Hmmmm....

almost seems like a waste of time to post, but if you knew his music at all you wouldn't even question these comments. i feel this statement 'Every genre of music you can think of has more shit in it than it does gold' is pretty much true and doesn't really even need pointing out. and peoples you forgot a cardinal rule take anything from the media with a grain of salt. fuck the interviews, listen to the music.

'the most expensive indulgence is hate' weirdo magnet

I can't listen to most rap/hip hop. Before someone twists that into what it's not, this is simply a statement about my tastes, not about the music. As someone else pointed out, there's a ton of crap in all genres. As an artist/writer/poet, I find Buck 65 the genuine thing. If he wasn't making records, I'm sure he'd be writing books. Fortunately for him he isn't. Most poets live in abject poverty, or worse, have to teach university. If Dylan was arriving on the scene now he'd be doing Buck 65 stuff.

Buck 65 is correct, not many in hip hop give respect to other music genres. Sage and Buck 65 are the only two I know of. Well and myself the self proclaimed protege of sage francis...Elijah Nathanial with that Prophet past messiah future...............

Hey, what jerkface was interviewing Richard Tefry, anyway? Who the f.ck calls him a whore? And a sellout..? Is he a sellout for signing up a record deal with WB? Or because he let popular teen soap opera Degrassi use his song Sore among others and mention his name a couple times? I don't care. This interviewer sounds like s/he is just looking to piss people off for a good time.

And mad props to Rich for apologizing for all that frustration that spewed out of him.

who cares what Buck said?

who cares what kerrang says?

who cares what YOU say?

particularly, who gives a damn about sage? buddy never leaves his house anyway.

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Guess the fuck what? Bucl 65 doesn't owe you anything, no musical artist does. Or indeed, no human being does. It was god damn good of him to apologize, and even if he hadn't, so what? Does his critisism of hiphop directly affect.. well.. anyone? I don't think anybody stopped listening to rap because of what he said. I'm pretty sure nobody is losing money because of this other than mistah Turfrey himself. So let it go.
I happen to be a huge fan of Buck 65. I don't know what I'd do without his work, both old and new, and it makes me want to break something to see a brilliant man being berated for something so trivial.

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Buck 65 right, and he shouldnt have to apologize for anything. Maybe if there wasn't so much bullshit "hiphop" out there, this discussion wouldn't exist.
Many rappers aren't talented. They feed off of the industry and the idiot's who buy their pointless filth. If it isn't underground hiphop, then it is probably not that good. Rapping about hustling, sex, murder, and hate is one thing, but glamorizing it is another. It's pointless, but because there are so many $$$ signs behind it its accepted and even loved? Fuck disrespectful rappers everywhere.

God, it's so useless, all of this.

Who knows, maybe Buck really is a "brilliant" artist, or a "a fucking prolific man", or if he "finally brings a bit of intelligence and humanity into Hip Hop".

But people, the artists, their music and what they represent don't necessarily jive with their real human nature, what they really do, or really think, or how they really live. I've had several one-on-one conversations with Rich, at shows and in his hotel room. Sadly, this so-called prolific man is the most self-absorbed, flaky, inconsiderate guys I've ever come across. In fact, when he thanked me for the conversation, I had to say: "This wasn't a conversation, it was a monologue.". To listen to someone take themselves so seriously, to hear them talk for hours on end about themselves, their ambitions, their genius, their importance... Well, it's one-dimensional and honestly, just completely BORING. Not to mention the fact that he's screwed over a number of people I know personally, which I know makes him even more uninteresting and unimportant.

So folks, for better or worse, this guy is just like your damn ol' neighbour, who has the capacity to be amazing one day, but mostly lame the rest of the time. So his comments on hip hop, whether they be nasty or wonderfully nice, should be taken with a grain of salt. What he has under his belt is experience in the business and with hip hop - I'll definitely give him that. But he's as lost and fucked up as the next person, he has his good days and bad, and he doesn't know much more than the average person about most things. So as for his opinions and the way he expresses them, here's some advice: Don't be like Buck - don't take it too seriously, eh?

It looks like you really had a nice time.

It's amazing how lttle people are actually talking about the quality of this guy's music! You're all pathetic for getting involved in this soap opera melodrama. Who gives a shit. Give him a listen, and judge him on that.

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