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January 31, 2005Who Should Be Held Responsible?1/31/05 UPDATE: Todd Lynn Fired An e-mail was sent around this weekend from a supposed "informed insider" at Hot 97. This email appears to have come from someone in Miss Jones and Todd Lynn's camp, twisting the facts around hoping to deflect responsibility from them. It seems to be true, as claimed in the email, that producer Rick Delgado wrote the song and that Miss Jones did not sing on it. But the email falsely implies that Todd Lynn did not sing on the "tsunami song," which he did. Even Todd himself did not deny his presence on the song, when he spoke publicly to this site and trickology.com. It also states that Miss Jones has no control over the programming of the morning show, which is false. It is clear from what was heard on air that Miss Jones eagerly approved the airing of the song, and specifically ordered it to be played again one morning that week, after a caller complained. The e-mail claims that the staff was somehow forced "under duress" to record the song, which is laughable. What sort of "duress" was it exactly, did management put a gun to their heads? CLearly they were not threatened with losing their jobs, because Miss Info refused to participate and faced no such consequences. The e-mail also seems to hope we will forget the abusive statements made by both Jones and Lynn in defense of the song, when they were berating Miss Info for raising an objection to it. Assuming it is true, as was already reported elsewhere, that Producer Rick Delgado wrote and produced the song, clearly he should be held fully responsible for that. But does this absolve Todd Lynn of his responsibility for singing on the song, or Miss Jones' responsibility for ordering it to be aired repeatedly? Or for the further abuse and bigotry they aimed at Miss Info, after she objected to the song? Clearly the blame for this cannot fall only on these on-air personalities. But is it possible to address this properly without holding them fully accountable for their roles? And what about the management and higher-ups at Hot 97 and Emmis who allowed this to happen, where is their accountability? If you, the people, have an opinion on this you better make it known, because wheels are turning right now... Posted by jsmooth995 at January 31, 2005 10:12 AM | TrackBackComments
Jay, Is it possible to post this on the main page? Thanks! My t-shirt co made some T-Shirts about the Hot 97/Tsunami issue, buy your shirt today! 100% of the profits goes to the UNICEF Tsunami Relief Fund. Please spread the word so we can raise as much money as possible and turn a negative into a positive. Jin's website has just posted info about the shirts also. You can find them at: www.MuckItTees.com Posted by: Mike at January 31, 2005 01:11 PM Once again jsmooth is on point here. Posted by: __ at January 31, 2005 01:13 PM Greets to all from Minnesota. I'm a 42 year old white guy, who gets into rock and roll more than hip hop, but I know racists when I hear them. I have been following this incident since it was posted on Fark.com, and I wish to thank all of you for standing up for what is right. As a resident of the Twin Cities, I usually end up listening to the Morning Show on KQRS radio, which has drawn lots of criticism in the past for its perceived racial insensitivities, but this episode at Hate97 makes KQ look like choir boys. It is the worst piece of garbage I've ever heard, and that's the best a New York station can do? It's worse than amateur. P.S. The ONLY way for justice to be served here, is for EVERYONE involved in this fiasco to be FIRED, with the lone exception of Miss Info. Period. She should have her own show! Posted by: Bob S. at January 31, 2005 01:15 PM I just watched Man on Fire last night. Great movie. What does that have to do with this? Well, when he goes after the kidnappers, they have this to say: Lisa: What are you gonna do? Creasy: What I do best. I'm gonna kill 'em. Anyone that was involved. Anybody who profited from it. Anybody who opens their eyes at me. Well, I'm not suggesting violence, but we should go after EVERYONE who was involved. The producer, the writer, the higher ups who approved this garbage. Anyone who had a finger in this should be fired. They should pay for their errors, because it was not a mistake. Miss Jones and Todd Lynn should be gone. -Hong Posted by: Hong at January 31, 2005 01:16 PM Are there any other sponsors to complain too? Has anyone received a reply from popeyes in their emails? Posted by: defyenRTE at January 31, 2005 01:20 PM Hi, I've been watching this issue as it unfolded over the past couple of weeks and want to thank you and your readers for keeping the pressure on Hot 97. Just one question: any word on whether or not anyone sent a copy of the song to Quicy Jones? Considering they used "We are the World" and they just celebrated the 20th anniversary of that effort, I'm wondering what Quincy's thoughts on this would be. Keep up the good work! Ladyjax Posted by: Ladyjax at January 31, 2005 01:21 PM Keep the EMAILS, PHONE CALLS, LETTERS to all of Hot 97 & Emmiss going strong. Email multiple times per day...let the inbox flood with messages about this! Email Rick Delgado & everyone & anyone affilited with this mess. Get involved. Posted by: Skilli at January 31, 2005 01:26 PM Thanks Jay for the updates. You're doing an amazing job. I will continue to follow this until they're fired. Rick Delgado is the biggest racist. Posted by: Skooel at January 31, 2005 01:46 PM If the producer wrote and produced the song, then he should be fired as well as Miss. Jones and Todd Lynn. However, Personally, I think the producer probably should resign on his own for taking all responsibilities. Just as the ‘ex CIA director George Tenet resign after his questionable leadership over Iraq and terrorism since 911. And, Miss. Jones had no control over what’s being aired on the morning show? Come on, isn’t the show named after her? But, for the sake of the argument, lets say she has no control over the show, however, can’t Miss Jones, a person with average intelligence determine which materials to be aired, and which material not to be aired when she finds it “morally questionable”? As for Todd Lynn, You said what you said, on or off the air. Admit what you have done, and stop distorting the truth or you’ll be digging a bigger hole for yourself. For E.D. Hill on Fox News arguing over 1st Amendment. Miss Jones and Todd Lynn have no 1st Amendment rights here. They are both employees of a private company (Emmis Radio and HOT 97) and must follow company guidelines and policies. You can shout out “I am gonna kill all Asians” in Central Park and the 1st Amendment would cover your ass, but it does not prevent a private company from imposing limits. Posted by: HHH at January 31, 2005 01:54 PM i think this is gettin out of hand.i was down with the casue till i saw the protests. Do we really need that? Oh and by the way how many of the protestors there donated anything to the tsumani relif effort? It seems to me that people are just tryin to jump on the bandwagon casue its the thing to do. I think a petition, spammin the company and the sponsers was more then enough. But to have protests? Come on now. its a little extreme. They will be punished but now its gettin to the point of just sheer ridiculous. Posted by: Djhaze at January 31, 2005 01:54 PM "Rick Delgado is the biggest racist." Posted by: DCC at January 31, 2005 01:56 PM people are starting let it go now.... Posted by: Mark at January 31, 2005 02:04 PM by the way, I dare E.D. Hill to say the N-bomb, or "Ch*nks" on air...she probably would be fired by FOX the next day, as I am pretty sure FOX probably have some kind of policies against derogatory and racially insensitive comments. Posted by: HHH at January 31, 2005 02:10 PM Assuming that it is true that producer Rick Delgado wrote and produced this song, and knowing that Lynn and Miss Jones participated and WILLINGLY ALLOWED in its production and continuous airplay, does NOT absolve them of any responsibility, nor does it absolve them of the consequences of creating & airing the song, IN ADDITION TO making verbally abusive, racist, and hateful remarks on air. There is something called personal responsibility & accountability of ALL COMPLICIT PARTIES, meaning ANYONE who was aware of the racist and shameful content of this song and was aware of its production & airing, and SAID NOTHING, was and is complicit -- whether or not they claim to be "non-racist," whether or not they claim to be just "cogs in the wheel," whether or not they claim that they were "forced under duress." So, I believe that Jones and Lynn are still absoutely accountable for charges of being racist and belligerent, and should still be fired. HOWEVER, the justice in resolving this issue does not end there, and they cannot be scapegoated as the only responsible parties involved. I want to know more about Delgado and his alleged leadership in this whole fiasco. Obviously there are a lot of power dynamics bound up in this, as all media conglomerates and high power monopolies are.... SO, our targets do not end at Jones and Lynn -- though they are the faces/voices we attach to this issue, they're only minor players, ultimately. Though,again, they still need to be held completely accountable and fired. I think we need to know who else is responsible in the creation of this, and if Delgado wrote & produced this, he needs to face the same consequences. These people cannot be allowed these positions in the media! We need to go to the source, not just the obvious targets. The people who are actually creating this crap need to go. I agree with Skilli et al that we gotta keep the emails and phone calls going. But we also gotta make sure we're still hitting the right targets.... On another note, a big shoutout and love to everyone who's been fighting this fight.... Let's keep working. This is MUCH BIGGER than hot97.... so when's the next protest?? Posted by: rainer8 at January 31, 2005 02:21 PM Rainer8, Are you in the NYC area? Posted by: LS at January 31, 2005 02:29 PM yes i am. Posted by: rainer8 at January 31, 2005 02:33 PM DJ haze, Perhaps people are protesting because they are personally offended and angry...protesting is one way of publicly showing outrage, otherwise there's no way for our voice to be heard. Please do not undermine our actions as "extreme and ridiculous." Posted by: LS at January 31, 2005 02:36 PM Rainer8, Please e-mail me at sun5beam7@yahoo.com if you would like to attend a meeting that discusses the points that you brought up. Posted by: LS at January 31, 2005 02:40 PM Rainer8, Please e-mail me at sun5beam7@yahoo.com if you would like to attend a meeting that will discuss the points that you brought up. Posted by: LS at January 31, 2005 02:41 PM Miss Jones is ignorant and uneducated. The fact that she said Miss Info should not consider herself superior because she is Asian is proof that Ms. Jones HERSELF is racist. This is not surprising and is usually the case. Posted by: Maria at January 31, 2005 02:42 PM I think Miss Jones and Todd Lynn have a responsibility for playing the song, and saying the racial comments they did on the radio, for that they should be fired, but I also believe this protesting and boycott doesn't stop their, getting them off air is the only step because ofcourse there is the people that ordered it to happen, and made the song and pushed it to the hosts to play them, they all have a equal responsibility for the song being played, and they should take responsibility for it, I'm against the top people who thought of it, and put action in it to make it.. and I think it just isn't over yet.. Posted by: miwaLyric at January 31, 2005 02:43 PM is this rick delgado's site? http://www.runningmouth.com/ Posted by: anti97 at January 31, 2005 02:48 PM ls, Posted by: Djhaze at January 31, 2005 02:49 PM The cause isn't getting out of hand, that song was more than way out of hand. Posted by: sfm at January 31, 2005 02:56 PM DJ Haze, Maybe you dont find this incident offensive to you as much as to the other people. But, how far would you go to fight for your rights and what you believe? People are exercising their expression here. If we just let it go, Miss. Jones and Todd Lynn will be back on the air before you know it, and "justice" will never be served. Posted by: HHH at January 31, 2005 02:59 PM dj haze, fyi, usually things like this don't just take care of themselves after you put a little fire under somebody's ass, 'cause there are many responsible parties, a lot of politics, and it's much bigger than just people getting fired. and no one can just assume that "justice will be served" -- ever, in any cause.
Posted by: rainer8 at January 31, 2005 03:02 PM i just heard the longer version of the tsunami song and miss jones' verbal assault on miss info. -that was the most classless, over the top behavior i've heard in a long time. there's no way miss jones can skirt responsibility on this. and, even by trying, excusing racist actions on behalf of orders is the same defense the nazis gave. and, don't forget those in abu-garaib. Posted by: dj hoodwink at January 31, 2005 03:04 PM word up hoodwink. Posted by: rainer8 at January 31, 2005 03:06 PM to DJhaze: when all parties involve in this incident are fired,remove,demoted, etc... then justice is serve but as of right now they are still only suspended. It been well over a week and nothing has happen to them what make you think that Hot97 will do anything if we don't keep on pressuring them. The are probably just waiting out the storm or else all parties involve would have been fire. Posted by: nite at January 31, 2005 03:07 PM rainer8, Thank you. I am with you 100%. couldnt say it better myself. PS: suspension means nothing. If we dindnt keep the pressure on, all involved would just get a paid "vacation" until this is over. The announcement of "the salaries of the morning crew while they are on suspension will go to the Tsunami relief" came after we kept speaking out in public. Posted by: HHH at January 31, 2005 03:09 PM When a crime is committed, all involved, whether you pulled the trigger or just sat there and watched, are responsible. Even if Miss Jones and Todd Lynn were not the ones who produced the song... even if they were pressured into singing/playing it, they are still responsible. Why is the FCC mum on this? I had gotten a reply back from the FCC but it was only of a panphlet discussing what requirements need to be met in order for the FCC to take action. If anyone would like to see that pamphlet, please let me know. You'll need Adobe Acrobat to view it. Posted by: A at January 31, 2005 03:18 PM Just let us know what the next plan of action is. Even though i'm not in the tri-state area right now, I can do alot spreading the word to my friends in NJ. I say spread the word to boycott HOT 97 for 1 month. If people all do it together, it'll be a big impact. Tell as many people you can. They can't do much with low ratings. Posted by: D at January 31, 2005 03:19 PM Jay, Is it possible to post this on the main page? Thanks! My t-shirt co made some T-Shirts about the Hot 97/Tsunami issue, buy your shirt today! 100% of the profits goes to the UNICEF Tsunami Relief Fund. Please spread the word so we can raise as much money as possible and turn a negative into a positive. Although we are fighting the struggle against HOT 97, we can't forget about the people on the otherside of the world that are fighting a struggle on some whole other next shit. Jin's website has just posted info about the shirts also. The shirts are at: www.MuckItTees.com Posted by: Mike at January 31, 2005 03:22 PM "Why is the FCC mum on this?" Posted by: DCC at January 31, 2005 03:35 PM DJ Haze, That's right, we are adopting this cause-if not us, then who? Surely not people/non-supporters like yourself who are so apt to criticize just because it does not affect you or your immediate needs. There will never be enough heat against them. The fight is just beginning and you are welcome to look the other way because we're gonna keep making noise. Posted by: LS at January 31, 2005 03:36 PM In regards to this issue, everyone needs to take responsibility including Miss Jones and Todd Lynn. If you look at past precedent with "chinkology" it's obvious that Miss Jones has had her "issues" with Asians. So even if it was written and produced by Rick Delgado she executed the skit with passion and hate for Asians (and yes I used the word hate). In terms of Todd Lynn, yes as he says he might not be a racist and we all make our mistakes ,however, most of us are not radio personalities and celebrities that make impressions on the minds of thousands if not millions of listeners (many young children who don't know any better). And yes they, hot 97 and Emmis are apologetic but ONLY because we've hit them where it hurts: Through their advertisers. sponsors and corporate shareholders. We've mobilized and campaigned with a force they were not expecting. It's not the protest and letters that gets people off the air it's the advertisers pulling out because of the former. Compare the recent statement from Hot 97: New York City - Miss Jones and the HOT 97 Morning team have been Earlier this week, Miss Jones said on the air "I apologize to all who While Miss Jones has apologized on the air, in the media and on the HOT Emmis Radio and HOT 97 will not tolerate such derogatory and racially Emmis Radio President Rick Cummings said, "What happened is morally and To the first short statement they had made initially and you'll see that are attack on the advertisers is working. Let's keep moving and not back down until the whole crew is fired. Posted by: LP at January 31, 2005 03:39 PM dj smooth, i just want to thank u for the updates. its sad that mainstream televison does not care enough to even give the public updates about one of the most offensive and racist songs ever made. this incident has illustrated that as asian americans, we have to speak louder in order for this soceity to hear our voices. i only hope that we keep up with the same intensity because we will serve ourselves an injustice if we let this incident go. ps. guys- racism only breeds racism in reverse. so stop with the racist comments, it does nothing but ignitiate further hate. in addition, lets not forget about the tsunami victims- donate and help out as much as u can!!!!! Posted by: annoyed at January 31, 2005 03:40 PM seriously, i appreciate the updates, too. the media has really not covered this at all, so it's good that we have someone spearheading the effort. i think the dj's should be held 100% accountable for their end, and airing it is enough and what came out of their mouths was enough.... and i think the producer should be held 100% accountable on his end too. he wrote the song. that's enough. Posted by: jk at January 31, 2005 03:43 PM Just got this e-mail from Davey D...good points on this issue:
I feel compelled to tell what is actually going on. Ms. Jones and Todd Lynn had NOTHING to do with the writing or production of Everyone involved in the production participated under duress.>> Posted by: LP at January 31, 2005 03:50 PM For everyone here.... head on over to www.rapattacklives.com My buddy Nasty Nes has basically summed it all up for us , perfectly. These DJs will take the fall for management's desires but please be aware, it's NOT the DJ's fault entirely. It's the CULTURE and the ATTITUDE of these management types, that will continue to allow these types of things to take place. Sure, fire a few DJ's. Posted by: Jose 3030 at January 31, 2005 03:51 PM I cannot believe that people are defending Miss Jones and Todd Lynn--by putting All blame on Rick Delgado. The reality is that Miss Jones and Todd Lynn's exchange with Miss Info shows what those two are: Asian-hating RACISTS. Todd lynn's stand-up comedy is nasty. He was a racist on "Tough Crowd." ALL THREE should be fired. Posted by: Proud Asian at January 31, 2005 04:26 PM well i think everything was involved in it should be fired datz all i gotz to say Posted by: Cindy at January 31, 2005 04:31 PM you know, when this inccident first aired I was in favor of making them pay for it. But like or two of you said this is getting out of hand. IT'S RIDICULOUS ALREADY, they are been punished for what they did. This is getting more attention than the president's new term and his plans with Iraq and the Iraquee Election. It's not that fucking serious, no one died from it so put this SHIT TO REST ALREADY Posted by: MAR at January 31, 2005 04:32 PM You people are taking these too serious. the morning show will be back next week. the sponsers will be there because the fans will be there. the asian community is not that big and NOT THAT IMPORTANT!!! PERIOD. So pull your shirts up and get over it. They make fun of white, black, hispanics everyone so wipe that tear and keep it moving!!! Posted by: Ramiro at January 31, 2005 04:38 PM Regardless of who is at fault, I will never tune in to Hot97 again. The best thing we can all do is just stop listening altogether. Personally I don't think it's getting out of hand. I'm glad we are finally standing up for what's right. As someone who survived 9/11 and who had friends die in that attack, I can't even imagine what it would be like in the tsunami-affected areas. I donated to the cause and I will continue to do my part to make things right. It took MLK years to bring civil rights to the forefront. You can't expect us to throw one lone protest and have things change. Stay strong people. We're all in it for the long haul. Posted by: fubabee at January 31, 2005 04:41 PM how can you compare MLk to this? hot 97 isn't beating down asians and making them slaves..please get over it. it was a funny joke hahahaha I will never stop listining to Hot 97 even if they made fun of spanish people (which i am) who cares did they hurt you? no get a life people!! Posted by: Ramiro at January 31, 2005 04:50 PM I think it is very serious enough. If you live in NYC and some radio DJs in L.A. made jokes about all the people and the firemen died on 911, I am sure you would find that offensive. If you are African American who heard DJs kept saying the N-word on radio, I am sure you will find it offensive. If some guy one the street, took a look at you, and say "I am gonna kill your kind", you will get upset. If that ever happened to you, I am sure you wanted to find those parties who's responsible and make sure they get punished fit for their crime. The outrage was not just about the song being aired, not just to the comments made by Miss. Jones and Todd Lynn on air. Miss Jones and Todd Lynn never admited their mistakes and kept on playing the song on the radio over and over until the public outrage came out. They even defended their actions against Miss. Info on the show. Do you think if we just sit on our asses, stop protesting and pretended nothing never happened, just because no one died, the radio station would take any actions? Posted by: geeze at January 31, 2005 04:53 PM This just goes to show that there are STILL ignorant people out there who just dont get it. Ramiro, if and when a disaster strikes >200,000 people of your race and orphaned children are being put into prostitution and slavery, let me know- i'll give hot 97 a ring. Posted by: D at January 31, 2005 05:00 PM Hey Ramiro: You're just a spick and a wetback. You came into this country illegally. You drain the welfare system. Your men beat women. Who are you to come on this website. You're just a hip-hop wannabe? Go back to Mexico where you eat mice and live in shanty towns. Or, better yet, go back to mowing my lawn for 5 cents and shut up. How does that feel, Ramiro? Like it? I have more. You want to support racists? Send ME some money. Proud Asian-sick of Racist double standards. Posted by: Proud Asian at January 31, 2005 05:09 PM i don't find anything funny about using ethnic slurs and trivializing a situation where half a million people are killed. maybe it's funny to people who don't understand what it is to strive to become intelligent and responsible human beings. and for that i just have to feel sorry for the ignorant, who think using the same tired shock tactics here will work. to everyone else, stay strong and keep up the good work. don't pay attention to those who are forcing their negativity onto you. Posted by: fubabee at January 31, 2005 05:13 PM It's spic, not spick, and it's 3 cents not 5. I know because me and the 50 other people who all live in one tiny ass apartment should know. The one thing you did get right was is how shitty my country is. Ok i'll get back to eating my burritos now and continue with avoiding INS. Posted by: Ramiro at January 31, 2005 05:15 PM Proud Asian- will you stop the racist comments? you sound like a hypocrite. Like fubabee said, there's a better way to go about this. Posted by: D at January 31, 2005 05:19 PM Unfortunately, this has been a minor blip on the radar screen. I don't know what the hell those who are saying this has "gotten out of hand" and "need to get over it" are talking about...I have co-workers who STILL haven't heard anything about Miss Jones and this song and I LIVE IN NYC. There are millions of mainstream Causasians, who don't listen to radio, hiphop radio, any of the shockjocks, and only watch TV and read newspapers like NYT and Wall Street Journal, have no idea this is going on so OBVIOUSLY this is NOT GETTING OUT OF HAND AND WE WILL NOT GET OVER IT. Of course these same people know all about a pretty actress being shot in the LES (I'm not at all trying to demean that crime - it was a horrible tragedy and the killers should be caught), but still have yet to hear about Miss Jones and her disgusting song. This is why we have to continue emailing the sponsors and Emmis multiple times a day and forwarding this on to everyone we know. Until more people know about this and are outraged by it and until mainstream media really picks this story up, Emmis and Hot97 aren't going to do anything significant. In order to really prevent Miss Jones being back on the air in a few weeks, it is up to us to continue bugging the hell out of Emmis and the sponsors. Again, here are the people you should email (alot of addresses bounce back now, but if others want to add addresses, please do! Let's make it easy for everyone to send out emails): khealey@emmis.com Posted by: ajl at January 31, 2005 05:24 PM So, Ramiro, you mean to tell me that if 300,000 Latin Americans died and the host of a prominent radio show mocked the victims and said "I'm going to start shooting SPICs", you're not going to be upset? Get real! Posted by: mark at January 31, 2005 05:28 PM Actually fellas i have been a supportor of this. I have activaly been updating cats on 3 diff forums bout what is goin on. I just feel that its gettin out of hand. tshirts? comeon now. this is gettin crazy. U dont think that the spamming and gettin up in todds ass was enough? If u goto phillyhiphop.com www.mpc-forums.com and a few others, u will notice i have been the one who has been supporting this casue the most, even though i am not of asian decent. I just feel that its going to far now. Action is being takin. U dug in hot 97s pockets causing them to lose sponsers. That is a pretty large victory in its self. Its just now it seems like the drama queen factor is gettin outta hand. and everyone is fighting for the casue, by responding on messageboards. If u want to boycott radio, turn it off. simple as that. if enough people tune out, they will lose ratings and eventually be "punished". dont come at me twisted though cause i have had 100% support and have been spreading the message farther then alot of cats here, until i saw the protesting. that irritated me. Posted by: Djhaze at January 31, 2005 05:33 PM also im not the only one who is feelin this way. Posted by: Djhaze at January 31, 2005 05:39 PM DJ Haze, I applaud your efforts to get the word out. And you're absolutely right; the right should not be confined to this one incident. Racism occurs everyday and should be dealt with, each and every time. However, this doesn't mean that people are "Overreacting" or being "drama queens" regarding the situation. People are voicing their outrage and rightly so. This one little act, which some deem as "no big deal" will influence the next generation. HOT 97 is a prominent radio station and heard by a million or so listeners, many of whom are children. Letting this go will leave a lasting impression in their minds that this is okay to do, and all the efforts that you and other good people like you to combate racism would be lost. Keep the fight up. Don't let racism go, no matter what format. Posted by: anthony at January 31, 2005 05:49 PM DJ Haze I respect your opinion, but I just want to point out I think you are misreading O-Dub? I don't think his position on this is in line with yours.. Posted by: Jay Smooth at January 31, 2005 05:55 PM i think as we all know, there will always be those who are trying to capitalize on the backs of others. as long as you know what you are doing is justified, you can sleep soundly at night. the protest was a peaceful demonstration to bring light to a situation that has remained unchallenged. the fundamental flaw of this society is that eventually people forget. just like the station so conveniently forgot that we lost 3000 people in our own backyard. in the end we are all fighting to end this world of hate. we cannot do that by remaining silent and just wishing it will go away. fighting hate is tough. it will take years to change beliefs. people like MLK died because of it. but in the end, those of us who take the time out to try and push for a more tolerant society will sleep easier at night, knowing that we are doing something worthwhile. Posted by: fubabee at January 31, 2005 05:58 PM from odubs site Frankly, it'd be great if people, more than writing in to protest Miss Jones, turned off the radio and let Hot 97 wither away. But as cynics have suggested, this controversy will blow over and people will go back to listening to the station and life continues until the next debacle. And hell, even if they tuned into a new station, it's probably owned by the same conglomerate anyways, so does it all really matter? 5. The thing to remember here is that social change requires a long-term committment and not a flash-in-the-pan, sign-an-online-petition type action. I don't mean for this to belittle the time people have taken over the Hot 97 issue: the progress that's been made couldn't have been done without that. However, there are obviously far bigger looming issues at play. This actually seems like child's play. It takes tens of thousands to shut down a single morning show but one letter from the Secretary of Education can censor PBS. THAT is real power andthe kidn of power we should all be extremely wary of. Hot 97 is an important symbolic battle to wage and I do hope we win it but there's so much more to be done, especially during this second Bush administration and its particular brand of social/religious conservatism. If you're looking for where the larger culture war is going to be fought, pay attention to how America's secular freedoms are going to be target #1 for the Christian right's brand of radical, religious fundamentalism. The kind of changes they'd like to make will make the "Tsunami Song" seem like a pleasant little ditty by comparison. Posted by: Djhaze at January 31, 2005 06:04 PM i'm happy that people aren't being passive about this and are doing a lot to help the cause. the people who complain about us going too far are ignorant. the bottom line to all this though is to get those responsible to fully own up to what they did. this song didn't play once, it didn't play twice, but rather numerous times. i'm sure a person with some sense of ethics or morals could have seen it was distasteful. todd lynn, jones, basically anybody who are involved with the station and knew about this song should be fired. you guys should keep the letters coming. it shouldn't stop until they get what they fully deserve. Posted by: Aaron at January 31, 2005 06:10 PM i really dont feel that im ignorant chief. I just think that the protest could have waited. Trust me it didnt do much. When star or benzio called russell simmons a "coon" (i think it was one of them) where was the letters? where was the protests. Posted by: Djhaze at January 31, 2005 06:13 PM Just curious--is "We Are the World" copyrighted? Did Rick Delgado get permission from the copyright holders to change and broadcast the song in this fashion? What do the copyright holders think about this? If he didn't get permission, isn't it a copyright infringement? Posted by: blah at January 31, 2005 06:17 PM its a parody. he doesnt need too. Posted by: Djhaze at January 31, 2005 06:17 PM I am a 31 year old Filipino Male in San Francisco. I love all music. Depending on my mood, that is what I'll listen to. I still can't believe that the "tsunami song" was ever written, let alone aired and then aired repeatedly. Over this past weekend, I actually heard the song and I cannot believe fellow minorities could be so racially insensitive. It amazes me that these people actually thought that this was a good idea. And at no point in their minds did they pause and really look at what they were saying. I can't believe the ignorance of these people to the severe issues that are laced in that song. And to prove how ignorant these people are look at the words used. We all know that the unfortunate "n" word was used by whites to insult Africans, the unfortunate "chi---" word was used by whites to refer to Chinese. This word is used in the song but China and it's citizens were not affected by the Tsunami. These people are using words they know nothing about. While I agree that the people responsible for the song should be held responsible for their actions, firing them would not solve this issue. It is only a kneejerk reaction. What is to keep these people from repeating a similar song on another radio station? They still will not have learned why this song is so offensive and insensitive. All they will remember is that the song got them fired. I don't accept their hallow, lawyer-prepared public apologies. They should have known better to begin with but since they didn't, they need to be taught. The entire morning crew and those responsible for the song, including management, should be sent to Indonesia or India or Malaysia or Thailand or Sri Lanka for at least two weeks to help clean up efforts. Let them see the devastation first hand. Let them see the bodies of those people they wrote about. Let them come face to face with the children who no longer have ANY family. Let them explain to these suffering people, why a song was made about the disaster. This is how these people must be educated. Posted by: lott42 at January 31, 2005 06:24 PM SHUT THEM ALL DOWN SHUT DOWN WHO WROTE IT, PRODUCED IT, EDIT IT, SUPERVISED IT, MANAGED IT AND THE DJ'S THAT PLAYED IT... shut down the companies that own hot 97 too. I MEAN I THOUGHT WE ALREADY FIGURED THAT PART OUT.. LETS STOP THE DISCUSSION... AND GET ON WITH FIRING ALL OF THEM.. NOT JUST HOT 97.. BUT ALL CORPORATE OWNED RADIO STATIONS WITH NO MORALS... WITH NO REAL SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE... COME ON NOW. Posted by: Kuttin Kandi at January 31, 2005 06:24 PM really dont feel that im ignorant chief. I just think that the protest could have waited. Trust me it didnt do much. When star or benzio called russell simmons a "coon" (i think it was one of them) where was the letters? where was the protests. ============================================== you know that some of the people here didn't write letters against the "coon" comment? you know that "90%" of people are just bandwagoners? Posted by: Aaron at January 31, 2005 06:30 PM personally speaking, had i known about the russell simmons incident, i would have done exactly the same thing. had i known about any other hateful acts that had occured, i would have done the same thing. we are at a turning point in our society. we are using technology to do something about the wrongs. we have instant tools of communication to reach out to a worldwide audience and we are using it to fight hate. it's great knowing how all these moral individuals are coming together to fight for a worthy cause. in the end there has to be leaders who are willing to step up. all of the people here, that have helped spread the word are leaders. jay smooth is a leader. the council members in nyc that organized the protest are leaders. you as an individual that sent out emails in protest, you are a leader. the mountain of bigotry is slowly being chipped away by all of us who challenge hatred in this society. eventually that mountain will fall. Posted by: fubabee at January 31, 2005 06:30 PM Easy solution for this nonesense produced by HOT 97. Fire them all, especially Miss Jones and Todd Lynn. What are they trying to do, appeal to us for sympathy. Absolutely not. The program director all the way down should be held responsible for this. And in my opinion the right to free speech ( no matter how crude) allowed that crew to sing the song, but the justification of such racism exhibited by Miss Jones and Todd Lynn is what really needs sanction. When the right to free speech does not promote a hate-free environment, the core of American society, it can be harmful. Posted by: MC at January 31, 2005 06:37 PM i agree with lott42 that the only way they will learn is to send them to help with the rebuilding effort. Posted by: fubabee at January 31, 2005 06:38 PM I see no evidence yet that Hot97 is serious about punishing the people responsbile. Posted by: paul at January 31, 2005 06:39 PM thanks for the info paul. lets get this out to EVERYBODY Posted by: Aaron at January 31, 2005 06:58 PM I don't think we should take this lying down, forget about it, or get over it. I DO think the T-shirts go a little far, since there are better ways of correcting the problem than heating it up even further, BUT I disagree with anyone who thinks we should just STOP protesting and get over it. Come off it. Get OVER it? Are you joking me? A kid tries to start a Caucasian club in some school in Tennesee in the middle of nowhere, and the newsherd is ALL over it. Asians and Africans (mainly) get bitchslapped with ridiculous taunts, mocking laughter, and the insinuation that God hates them, injured even further by all these "Asian Americans just aren't important" comments and the newsherd just blinks and turns in the other direction.
As for Rick Delgado, if it is true that he wrote and produced the song, then I think he should be questioned about it. Don't stick his head on a pike and parade him through the streets. (I don't mean that literally). Just...question him. Or maybe you can call Todd Lynn and question him about it, since he was most reluctant to divulge this information in the interview... but he seemed more concerned with saving his own ass then clearing up any confusion or affirming anything at all, so perhaps it would be useless to have another round.
Posted by: Sarah at January 31, 2005 07:06 PM C'mon DJHaze... in the 50's all sorts of messed up sh*t was happening to black folks, but it was because of a woman being stubborn on the bus that a movement broke out and a whole generation began fighting back. Please, you act like this is small, look at what that one incident touched off. Maybe this is the straw that breaks the camel's back, today Hot 97, tomorrow the whole damn government. What's important is that people are energized. Call them posers, hipsters whatever, I bet there were plenty of them back then too, but once someone inspired them to fight back, look at what they accomplished. If we succeed, this could be bigger than Hot 97. Posted by: E at January 31, 2005 07:16 PM Sarah i never said to lie down and get over it. I agree with the just bout all the efforts, emails, calls, i just think the protest was a little extreme to fast. If they did not comply immedaitly but they have been. The hosts have been suspenede and they are losing sponsership. So the efforts were workin before the protest. Dont get it twisted. Im a supporter of the cause. i just feel that the efforts were goin fine and action was being taken. But why add fuel to it with protesting? i just think thats a little too much right now. its only been a week or so. If miss jones was still broadcatsing then i can see the point. I just feel too much is goin down at once. yeah we gotta keep applying pressure, but people are. Its gonna become a thing for people to cash in on hiding under the guise of "down for the casue". it just seems to me that people are exerting all there options way too fast. Things are happining. the most powerful way to deal with this is too keep hiting the sponsers. That is who is paying hot 97 bills. A protest outside with a 100 people is not accomplishing anything. But once again im on ur side people. I just dont agree with a few things in the approach. I have gotten over 500 people to sign a petition and send out emails. What have u done for the cause? If i was just some jerkoff playin devils advocate then thats a diff story. I just dont agree with certain things. Dont get it misconstrued as to let it all fade away. But lets save a few cards up the sleeve. Just give it some time with the efforts that are being applied now. Posted by: Djhaze at January 31, 2005 07:19 PM C'mon DJHaze... in the 50's all sorts of messed up sh*t was happening to black folks, but it was because of a woman being stubborn on the bus that a movement broke out and a whole generation began fighting back. Please, you act like this is small, look at what that one incident touched off. Maybe this is the straw that breaks the camel's back, today Hot 97, tomorrow the whole damn government. What's important is that people are energized. Call them posers, hipsters whatever, I bet there were plenty of them back then too, but once someone inspired them to fight back, look at what they accomplished. If we succeed, this could be bigger than Hot 97. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++= Posted by: Djhaze at January 31, 2005 07:22 PM Tonight we had a discussion panel at the University of Florida that I helped organize to discuss the actions of HOT97 and the Tsunami Song. The turn out was decent sized, but I'm glad there were people who were interested enough to come out and speak their opinion. One of the points I made during the forum and that I want to emphasize here again. People keep saying the FCC can't fine them on idecency and obscenity. That's right, but they can fine them on profanity. From the FCC's website: The FCC has defined profanity as including language that “denote[s] certain of those personally reviling epithets naturally tending to provoke violent resentment or denoting language so grossly offensive to members of the public who actually hear it as to amount to a nuisance.” Like indecency, profane speech is prohibited on broadcast radio and television between the hours of 6 a.m. to 10 p.m.
Posted by: Ming at January 31, 2005 08:13 PM WELL MY LAST COMMENT WAS SOME FAKE ONE TRYING TO BE ME. YES I AM A SPIC. I DON'T CARE WHAT THE FUCK YOU CALL ME. SORRY TO INFORM YOU PROUD ASIAN THAT I AM AS REAL AS IT GETS IM FROM BROOKLYN AND MORE AMERICAN THAN YOUR SLANTED EYED ASS IS. SO SAY WHAT EVER YOU WANT. PULL YOUR SKIRT UP GET OVER IT THE MORNING SHOW WILL RETURN NEXT WEEL SO GET OVER IT PEOPLE!!! Posted by: RAMIRO THE REAL ONE at January 31, 2005 08:23 PM Haze, the quote you pasted from O-Dub is saying something totally different than your position. He's saying these protests are not enough, not that they are too much. He's saying he supports these protests, but that we also need to move beyond them and look at the bigger picture, which is what I and many others have been saying as well. I'd appreciate getting your thoughts on my conversation with Immortal Technique and Kuttin Kandi which I will post soon. Posted by: Jay Smooth at January 31, 2005 08:27 PM Everyone who approved of airing skit starting from the Parent company (Emmis), to the producer (Rick Delgado) all the way down to the peons (Miss Jones, Tod Lynn). The program would not have been possible without the collaborative efforts of these people. Posted by: Chris Cline at January 31, 2005 08:33 PM go for the top. It's called trickle down ass kicking. Posted by: lateadopter at January 31, 2005 08:35 PM ah i stand corrected jay. I was basically focusing on Frankly, it'd be great if people, more than writing in to protest Miss Jones, turned off the radio and let Hot 97 wither away. But as cynics have suggested, this controversy will blow over and people will go back to listening to the station and life continues until the next debacle. And hell, even if they tuned into a new station, it's probably owned by the same conglomerate anyways, so does it all really matter? Posted by: Djhaze at January 31, 2005 08:38 PM DJHaze, About your disapproval of the protest, I do agree hitting the sponsors and keeping the pressure on is the best prolonged thing. But what about the rest of the world that hears about this and uses this to fuel their hatred for America? Do they know that we're getting at the sponsors? Probably not. But if there's a protest (and it's big enough), maybe it gets on their news, and they say well, there's still some good ppl left in the states. What about all those ppl in the rest of the country that thinks that Hip-hop is a bunch of savages? Maybe seeing an image from the protest of someone holding a sign that says "Hot 97 does not define hip-hop" makes them think twice. Posted by: E at January 31, 2005 08:52 PM DJ Smooth, Posted by: Kid T at January 31, 2005 09:35 PM Anyone who has heard Ms. Jones talk know that is her. Her dialogue with Ms. Infro was incriminating enough. It's unforntunate that they choose to switch and place blame, which will only lead to more resentment. If Ms. Jones is reading which I am sure she is I say this to you, I will keep you in my prayers and remember "this battle is not yours it's the Lord's." Posted by: debby at January 31, 2005 09:44 PM Everyone who turns on their Radio's in the morning are responsible, the advertisers are responsible because if we as the consumer expect and demand as the Asians have a level of decency and respect Ms. Jones and her crew would not have felt they had the LEG ROOM to push the envelope like they did. THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH IT, they have in the past. Howard Stern is going to satellite not by choice but because the consumers have had enough. Posted by: debby at January 31, 2005 09:51 PM Todd Lynn has been terminated without severance pay. At about 9 PM on Monday, Lynn called Asian Media Watchdog from his home in Brooklyn saying, "You got your wish man. I'm fired. I'm gone." The fate of others involved in Tsunami song—Miss Jones and DJ Envy—is unclear. Emmis Communications is expected to release a statement We will keep you posted on the details. James Fujikawa Posted by: Asian Media Watchdog at January 31, 2005 10:11 PM You people are sorry...Hot 97 is too strong..even the listeners have been calling in support of miss Jones to have her back. You people here talking aren't even from NYC. you are all a bunch of country bumpkins 10 steps behind the real world. its not that serious GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!! Posted by: IloveMISSJONES at January 31, 2005 11:15 PM Come on my dear Ramiro, you are "taking this too serious"..."it was just a funny joke hahahaha" so why not "get over it...". Besides, you were right, 150,000+ lives are "not that important" anyway... And Proud Asian, you are not helping, unfortunately. Posted by: oooo Ramiro gets mad! at January 31, 2005 11:35 PM Who in the world thought this so called joke was funny? People really need to think before they speak and act. As an African-American I can't support Miss Jones or her crew. They knew this was wrong from the start and attacking Miss Info for standing up for herself is just another example of how some people( No matter what race)like to control others. As minority brothers and sisters we need to look out for each other, not do dumba** stuns like this. BREAK THE WALLS DOWN! Posted by: D Rock at January 31, 2005 11:36 PM Miss Jones said to Miss Info " You probably feel superior, because you're Asian". It came out of Miss Jones's mouth when nobody even mentioned race issue. Clearly Miss Jones has a thing about Asians. She wanted to make it a race thing. I bet Miss Jones herself feels that Asians are superior and she is not. That's why she has to attack Asians all the time. She needs help mentally. She has a low self esteem and Posted by: kiko at January 31, 2005 11:48 PM djhaze, i hear you. and i, along with many others here, appreciate your efforts to get people aware of this. but listen, this thing is so much bigger than jones & lynn and hot97. the reason why we have to keep on this is because the major media outlets/conglomerates in this country are effed up, meaning they are run by a bunch of, *most likely* white men with a lot of money and power, and they use whatever means they can to keep control of their money and power, and use people like jones and lynn as their puppets to get the highest ratings they can, and when the shit hits the fan, like it just has, they hide and scapegoat people. now i'm not saying jones, lynn, delgado et al should still not be held responsible. but they are really the lesser of the problem here... Posted by: rainer8 at February 1, 2005 12:04 AM IT'S ME AGAIN, JUST FINISHED EATING MY BURRITOS. I'M NOT REALLY FROM BROOKLYN, I'M JUST PRETENDING TO BE SO I CAN SAY THAT I'M HARDER THAN THE PUSSY THAT I REALLY AM. ALL RIGHT, GOTTA GO BACK TO WASTING AMERICA'S HARD EARNED TAX MONEY SO THAT THEY CAN SUPPORT THE REST OF MY WORTHLESS LAZY PEOPLE. PEACE! Posted by: RAMIRO THE REAL ONE at February 1, 2005 12:30 AM yeah i just finished putting my burritto in your mothers ass and then in her mouth. let me show you brooklyn son..you don't want to see BK son you will lose! Posted by: Ramiro the spic at February 1, 2005 02:27 AM Hey Ramiro, the real one, or whatever: You refered to my "slant eyes." If you weren't busy sneaking into this country, and mowing my lawn, you would know that ASIA is A CONTINENT. I am an ASIAN of INDIAN DESCENT (yeah, take out burrito from your mouth and go find a map). I ain't got no slant eyes. Just as no CHINAMEN died in the tsunami--'cause, you morons, CHINA isn't on the Indian Ocean. The problem with people like you and Miss Jones is YOUR IGNORANCE. Crack (no, not the drug, so stop salivating) open a geography book and have someone read it to you. My son is FIVE years old and HE KNOWS WHERE THE INDIAN OCEAN IS. AND HE KNOWS THAT ASIA IS CONTINENT--which means, Ramiro-the-retard, that there are MANY COUNTRIES there, with HUNDREDS of cultures. Not every asian is "slant-eyed." What is wrong with you people? Put down the crack pipe and burritos and welfare checks. Learn to read--and not just the Fast Food menus. Maybe then you won't be mowing MY DOCTOR SON'S lawn in a few years. And guess what? I IMMIGRATED--which means LEGALLY moved--to this country three years ago, and I speak better English than Miss Jones and Todd Lynn, and Ramiro. Jeez. Posted by: Proud Asian at February 1, 2005 09:22 AM LETS KEEP PUSHING THIS THING. Hot 97 is just waiting for this thing to blow over. If we keep pressuring the sponsors and keep the fire burning Hot 97 will really take notice and do what they should do, FIRE MS JONES!!! Hiphopmusic.com, I commend you guys on such great work. I definately give you the utmost respect for keeping on they asses. BIG UP!! Posted by: PK at February 1, 2005 10:11 AM Proud asian why don't you go back to the continent of asia and go eat some white rice. I sorry buddy but I was born here for your info. I don't give a shit about asia and what countries are there. they are all dirty people to me. asia is overpopulated anyway. tsunami was sort of a blessing in diguise....population control...and proud asian I will slap you in the face with and my burritto and your mother Posted by: Ramiro the spic at February 1, 2005 11:58 AM Wow, let's just ignore the 11-year-old with nothing to do and talk about the real issue. Posted by: L at February 1, 2005 02:36 PM The tsunami song is just plain ignorant, i mean, bodies are still being found in the ocean till today. And the racial slurs............ Oh my GOD!!!!!!! imagine if the racials slurrs were directed to black people, all hell would have broken lose. They all should get fired, except miss info though because she clearly backed out of the situation even before the song was aired, Posted by: JJ at February 1, 2005 03:32 PM Ramiro the spic is obviously a moronic troll. I'd say a white teenager living in suburbia somewhere. Posted by: b.e.verins at February 1, 2005 05:02 PM agreed b.e verins Posted by: ramirothe whiteboy at February 1, 2005 05:58 PM This is the most sick evil song I ever heard in my entire life....This Is Evil at it's highest!!!! It goes along with beheading people, sexual abuse of children and aids in Africa. Posted by: joanmahaffy at February 1, 2005 10:20 PM Ramiro the spic Posted by: your gay at February 2, 2005 02:08 AM THEY ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE!! Posted by: RICHARD at February 2, 2005 09:10 AM I really don't listen to Ms. Jones, but when I do listen I find her information to be inaccurate and offensive. I am a afro-Latina in my late 30's and when I do happen to catch her show I often feel violated. I can't believe the venom that she spews so often. If she were white speaking about African Americans Al Sharpton would be up in arms. Racism should not be laughed at. People should not keep silent. This is not acceptable behavior. Posted by: Cecilia at February 2, 2005 10:09 AM This website is so damn bias that its sickening. They were all wrong for doing the song but the producer wrote it and had them do the song. This is really turning into an us against them type of thing. I see Jay smooth kissing miss infos behind while trying to make the black cohosts look like Nazis. Its really sick. Posted by: Dtaylor at February 2, 2005 01:29 PM Yeah, the producer held a gun to their heads. FYI, Miss Jones was fucking defending it. If you'll read the post above you, it's not just Asians who are up in arms. Idiot. Posted by: em at February 2, 2005 09:22 PM It's obvious that the people who would write and produce crap like this have never had such tragedy happen to them, their family, friends, or people they love. Instead of being grateful, they've got the nerves to mock the victims. As long as we have people like that living in their little world of blissful ignorance, our world will never be the loving place that most of us long for. Posted by: Gerry at February 2, 2005 10:25 PM when I read that email on okayplayer I immediately thought what you wrote here. glad to know that there are folks out there who don't buy the BS these stations pull to make money. The people you align youself with are a reflection of your self. End of story. Posted by: Calvin at February 3, 2005 03:10 AM Barry Mayo January 27, 2005 Mr. Mayo: I am not writing you about the parody. The purpose of this letter is to ask you to reconsider your decision to play records that glorify the manufacture, distribution and use of crack cocaine. I have noticed that your station does not redact lyrics from songs that glorify the manufacturing, distribution and use of crack cocaine. Lyrics like “Cook, Coke, Crack,” “I can see the coke in your nose,” “Joe Crack,” and other songs replete with similar lyrics are playing in heavy rotation on your station. I will not speculate as to why these lyrics are suddenly being included in records but I do know that sales of brands like Crystal, Courvoisier, Sean John, and Gucci tended to increase when artists included these brand names in songs. One could present a theory that these lyrics are being placed in these records to promote crack cocaine usage. Fat Joe a/k/a Joe Crack, Irv Gotti, Jay Z and 50 Cent are just four artists that have bragged about their past involvement in the crack trade. Could it be that they are still involved or that their “crews” are carrying on the family business? Are they introducing generation Y to this drug to reinvigorate the lucrative crack cocaine market? African – American youth [those that use drugs] seems to prefer marijuana - the “sticky icky” as it is sometimes referred to on the “streets.” Now I hate conspiracy theories, but, it is more probable than not that by allowing these lyrics in heavy rotation it will place a message in the minds of these youth that could make them more susceptible to the use of this dangerous drug. Is Hot 97 helping these drug kingpins influence our youth to “make the switch” to crack. I can bore you with psychological, sociological and other theories and statistical evidence to support the fact that if you promote a message with a certain level of frequency – people will internalize the message. But wait a minute, that’s how you guys make your money, advertising, so I don’t have to explain this to you. Mr. Mayo, I urge you to redact lyrics that mention anything to do with crack cocaine from the songs played on your radio station. Do not influence artists to make more songs glorifying crack. Find another way to “keep it real for the streets.” Don’t sell - out another generation of young people to this terrible drug. Follow the lead of Viacom and delete these lyrics from these songs. The interests of the children that overwhelmingly listen to Hot 97 outweigh the interests of these artists’ so called freedom of expression based mantra, “This is how we live – this is real for us.” It may be real for Fat Joe, Ja Rule, Jules Santana, Just Blaze and Jay Z but don’t let crack cocaine be real for the youth of this generation. In closing, this is bigger than the parody debacle; I plan to take this message to New York State senators, the FCC, the Office of National Drug Control Policy and any other politician, preacher, mother or father that is interested in saving our children.
CC: Jeffrey H Smulyan, Chairman and CEO, Emmis Communications Posted by: Michael Bryant at February 3, 2005 09:11 PM I've been living in NYC since 1983, and this isn't the first time I've heard "chink" or other slander in reference to Asians on HOT97. At the same time, I don't think I've EVER heard porch monkey or nigger on HOT97. Miss Jones and all those involved, including management and the board of investors of Emmis should be accountable for the airing of the parody and admit the truth, that they are racists and that money is the primary motive for any action they take. In reference to the post by Michael Bryant, I do think he is onto something, that HOT97 doesn't give 2 shits about the youth they call their "listeners". If they really cared about their youth, they'd promote education and tolerance, rather than broadcasting garbage tracks that promote drugs, being "hard", and being a "thug" and basically treating other people like shit. Yet the station says they are so involved with community and social development projects, when it fact its just PR bullshit. When it comes down to it, accountability should also go to parents of past and present, those that raised children and didn't teach them how to love everyone. Perhaps they taught them how to hate. The fabric of American morals and values, or the lack of, has a lot to do with the fact that these days parents don't like to take accountability for their own kids' behaviors, rather they blame schools and other authorities. At the same time, lets not forget that we're all hypocrites and we should look in the mirror to become better persons, to try to treat each other like brothers and sisters regardless of race or religion. Anyways, 99% of public radio in the U.S. is garbage, "music" without much soul, creativity, or intelligence. Haven't you noticed that these "tracks" sound better with the video then without? I stopped listening to Hot97 about 7 years ago and I'm glad I didn't listen to it when they aired that "tsunami parody" during Martin Luther King week. Ms. Jones and those affiliated with the show don't know where they're from and they don't know where they're going... Posted by: Sung Kim at February 4, 2005 01:46 AM You've been here since 1983 and you never heard anything?? Juss wondering but UM......Did Hot 97 even exsist then? Maybe you didn't hear anything 'cause the station didn't even exsist. IF so... Either way Miss Jones and Todd lynn wasn't hired then. Posted by: girl1 at February 4, 2005 02:47 AM girl1 - Yeah I know HOT97 didn't exist since 1983, my point is that they've never said any derogatory terms on the station since its existence against blacks, but have mentioned chinks, slant-eyed references, and other slander in regards to Asians numerous times, repeatedly. This is the first time they've even addressed the issue of their blatant racism against Asians only because the advertisers are pulling ads out. You are missing the point of my post. Posted by: Sung Kim at February 4, 2005 09:35 AM where can I e-mail to complain miss jones rick delgado d.j. envy and every one directly? Posted by: Sden21 at February 4, 2005 05:20 PM Sri Lankans around the world have been urged to protest against Hot 97's racist Tsunami Song. Sri Lanka lost over 40,000 people in the tsunami which devastated the island on 26th December 2004. Emmis Radio and Hot 97 have no idea as to the real destruction of the tsunami on Asian countries. Tens of thousands died in this natural disaster. Sri Lankans in New York are calling for Richard Cummings, President of Emmis Radio and Hot 97 Morning Show presenter Miss Jones to resign. It is staggering that Miss Jones will be on air after being suspended for only two weeks. Cummings and Jones have been asked to go. US President George Bush has been urged to take action over Emmis Radio - this cruel song has brought America into disrepute. Sri Lankans and other Asian Communities all over the world are protesting against the racist Tsunami Song aired over Hot 97 radio in New York. They are calling for the resignation of the President of Emmis Radio Richard Cummings and program presenter Miss.Jones. US President George Bush has been urged to take action against Emmis Radio.
TSUNAMI SONG Date aired: Morning of January 18TH-27TH 2005 (multiple airings) “There was a time, when the sun was shining bright So now you're screwed, it's the tsunami, (Imitating Micheal Jackson) Asian Communities all over the world wishing to protest are requested to write to their local American Embassy and to - Hot 97 WQHT-FM Barry Mayo, General Manager, Hot 97 WQHT-FM Emmis Communications Jeffrey H Smulyan, Chairman and CEO, Emmis Communications Federal Communications Commission
Posted by: JazzieB at February 5, 2005 04:59 AM Hello all, Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Deborah and I am the external vice president of the Asian Political Association at the University of California, Berkeley. The Asian Political Association will be starting a letter writing/petition campaign on Monday, with the immediate goal of the termination of Miss Jones' employment with Hot 97. We will send these letters/petition to the heads of Hot 97, its parent company, the New York City Council, and sponsers of Hot 97. We hope to reach a goal of 50,000 signatures. The producer and one member of the show were both fired. However, the central and most visible figure in this reprehensible act was not. The song is disgusting -- not only because of the appallingly racist words used, but because of its cavalier mockery of the hundreds of thousands victims of the tsunami disaster.
Posted by: Deborah at February 6, 2005 02:48 PM Mike, Posted by: BullFrogTodLynn at February 7, 2005 08:12 PM Have you guys seen Emmis Communications stock slide. There was a little upswing due to the first few days of uproar over this disgrace, but it went down down down! Keep sliding baby! Woo-hoo! The Emmis stock symbol is EMMS. Posted by: Elsa at February 7, 2005 10:12 PM I'm not about to spit venomous accusations or even try to reach for some depth within the people responsible for this sin. Let me say,however, that this is wrong. Instead of talking to them, I talk to you, the audience. These people who were hurt by the Tsunami, like those innocents in the Towers, are our brothers and sisters. We have to fight for them. This is not to end racism or to acknowledge some nationalistic injustice inflicted upon them. No. It is a HUMAN injustice. HUMAN, HUMAN, because, before we are black, white, red or yellow...WE ARE HUMAN. God doesn't know us by "Boricua", "Cuban", "African" or "American". God doesn't favor any skintone or intelligence. He judges us by our own hearts. This is an injustice upon the hearts of many, including those who weren't there. Fight for them. Protest, Argue, Fight, Fight, The Pen is mightier than the sword, but our tongues are the blade. Please fight for those who can't...for themselves. Peace. Posted by: Yusuf at February 11, 2005 01:02 AM This is REDICULOUS!!! The fact that Jones is not terminated is outrageous. That song perpetuates the hate, the racial inequality that our great Dr.King tried to stop. How can our black brothers and sisters demand justice and fair treatment when, we, ourselves, cannot offer that to others of the different races. Have our children forgotten the struggle, the torment, the humiliation that our ancestors endured? Our ancestors were mocked with the same use of language. Instead of ch**ks, replace that with n***er. 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