This is the original article:

http://www.sundaytimes.co.za/articles/article.aspx?ID=ST6A117191

This story is not all bad.

To be honest,

The writer for Nobody Smiling did a piss poor job of detailing the actual facts of this story.
I got nothing against the writer, but whoever edited it, did a horrible job.

The original story came from the Sunday Times, a newspaper from Africa.

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the first US rap video shot in Africa? really? i'm surprised this is the very first... i'm at a loss to think of examples right now, but i coulda sworn i remembered seeing a rap video or two in the past that were set in Africa.

since we're on the subject, have you heard of K'naan? Somali-born, Toronto-raised. went back to the continent (Kenya, specifically) recently to shoot his first video, Soobax. not sure if it's been getting rotation on your video channels. there's a documentary out there about the experience called 4Real Kenya.

anyway, the video is here.

I don't understand. What's the bad part?

I thought Nas's One Mic was supposedly in Africa. Am I wrong about that?

damn...the police woman looks like your usual video gal over here...He loves to include big women in his video...why not an umfufu ...now that would have been cool...bone in the nose and all (circa Busta Ryhmes)...

Why in the hell is Ludacris talking about pimping in South Africa.The country leads the world in AIDS cases,Rape and murder.South African men are very sick the "Gang Raped a 3month baby"."Baby Rape" is wide pratice in South Africa.Also I think African Americans need to do more with their African culture.Hip-hop is not culture it is music.Celebrate Real African culture Americans.

Hasn't Africa been pimped enough?

Looks like a case of damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

EasyListener you are wrong it is not damned you do or damn you don't, it is ok to make a video in Africa, it is actually great but when you are talking about pimping than it is wrong, stupid, sexist, a waste of time, disrespectful, etc, etc.

If he would have shot a video in africa about a love song than ok or a song with a bit of concious or a song that doesn't talk about pimping, this pimping shit is wrong whether it be in Africa or America, this sexism has to stop.

The Nas video for one mic was not shot in Africa, it was shot in LA, they just made the set look like it was in africa.

Hmmm HipHop is NOT a culture.. I think someone had better explain that one to me.

Well I can debate with you all day.But what I am saying is it is a form of music."Culture is the way you live and act,it is a reflection of you and your people". I'm saying that your a "African American" not "Rap Americans".Yes it was created by African American Youth but go around the globe and you will see real culture in it's natural form.I'm just saying that kids in America dance to hip-hop yeah thats ok if it is clean and doesn't destroy the young minds.Why not celebrate a people (slaves)who had their culture whip out of them ,Why not celebrate people who time try to forget ,Why not reclaim a rich strong culture is what I'm saying.Why not learn to keep the spirit of a heroic people a live through dance,education, in all schools. Are you embrassed ,look at native americans they have problems but also have a strong vibrant culture.If you celebrate your heritage then you don't need the bling,hoes,and fancy cars.You would have something real not rapper who pretend to be gangstas.FACT!!!

This P.I.M.P thang is just gone too far - unreal. PIMPIFY everything. I swear I saw a 3 year old dressed in pimp gear the other day walking down 42nd Street.

Where's the music gone??????????

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Below is a partial transcript of the Jersey Guys Radio show on April 25, 2005

Craig Carton and Ray Rossi
http://www.nj1015.com
New Jersey 101.5 FM Radio
PO Box 5698
Trenton, NJ 08638

Craig Carton: �Would you really vote for someone named Jun Choi [said in fast-paced,
high-pitched, squeaky voice]? I�m using Jun Choi [said in fast-paced, high-pitched, squeaky voice] as an example of a larger problem�

Ray Rossi: and you know�

Carton: We�re forgetting the fact that we�re Americans.

Rossi : You know that he�s going to get the� whatever that vote is

Carton : And here�s the bottom line... no specific minority group or foreign group should ever ever dictate the outcome of an American election. I don�t care if the Chinese population in Edison has quadrupled in the last year, Chinese should never dictate the outcome of an election. Americans should.

Rossi: Americans should, exactly

Craig : And it�s offensive to me� not that I have anything against uh Asians�I really don�t� i don�t like the fact that they crowd the goddamn black jack tables in Atlantic City with their little chain smoking and little pocket protectors..

Rossi: Now now now..that�s an issue with me..

Carton: I�m just saying, now that�s all Asians, not just Koreans�you know� you got Pai-Gaw poker playing.

Carton: My point is on a much larger stand..

Rossi: I understand� but you see you had to put that out there�

Carton: We�re bending over backwards to cater to fringe groups of people and I don�t like it!

Rossi: As long as we understand where you�re coming from� with the, uh poker table
group...

Carton: Well go to AC for one week and try and get a table� �ching chong, ching chong, ching chong [Mimics Chinese accent..] hehe you hit it on 17 you stupid bitch� the dealer�s got a 5..im holding an 18�what�re you hitting for� you know? They do it all day and night�they got their little beady pocketbooks with the little beads on it� they take out wads of 100s� ching chong ching chong [accent] they don�t know how to play the game� eh, honey i got a 13 and I�m playing against a 6�

Rossi: Hehe, their money is green too! [Laughter]

Carton: There should be like Asian-only rooms in casinos� but just to be fair, I have nothing against them�

Rossi: No, of course not [laughter]

Carton: Very good people� very nice people...

[Commercial Break]

Carton: Asian Americans factoring in the Edison race, Korean native and mayor both court the growing segment� uh I�ve said it about the Arabs about 4 months ago, I�ve said it about uh� you name a group that�s suddenly important in politics, other than
Americans as a whole and I got a problem with it� I�m not nitpicking any one specific group... I don�t like� like when Corzine came out and said�I�m counting on the Arab community to get me elected� right then and there you lost my vote!

Rossi: Well, but� you see what it is�

Carton: He was over at the Nordic lodge of Rhode Island� cuz I go to this place where its like 60 bucks for all you can eat� and I thought he was lying to me

Caller: Good, hi are you guys?

Carton: Doing good, babe.

Caller: It�s government for the people of the people and by the people and as long as you guys became American citizens and now have the right to vote, why not have them vote for someone who they feel comfortable with and will take care of their issues�

Carton: Well� I�m glad you called with that� god-forsaken disgusting liberal viewpoint, uh mickey�

Caller: I�m not a liberal at all� it�s by the constitution of New Jersey�

Carton: Well, you are a liberal by definition� by definition you are a liberal�.if they�re here legally and they�re Americans, I think they ought to vote for� [mocking falsetto voice] no no no�that�s liberal by definition� so let me explain to you what the problem is with it mickey so you can be a little bit brighter at the dinner table tonight, ok?

Caller: Ok

Carton: They are Americans, they have every right to vote. I will never deny them that, you know my grandparents came over here, they wound up with the right to vote and they�re very proud of it� same with Ray�s and most of our listeners�� they also have the right to run once they become Americans, and I don�t begrudge them that either, my problem is this: when we start focusing our campaigns on the minority of people and not the majority of people, I find that to be problematic� anybody running for office, whether it�s the Mayor of Edison or the Governor of New jersey, the focus should be what�s good for the breadth of people, what�s good for everybody, and its obnoxious to me, although I understand it�s a business, and its how you can get elected, if you say out loud, well if I can simply get the Asian vote I can win the election..

Rossi: Now that�s what it is�

Carton: And that�s what problematic to me� much as like we give DMV exams in
Spanish, and French, and in Swahili, we�re getting away from what our core is and that is America..

Rossi: Which is true�

Carton: And I�m troubled by it� and I don�t wanna hear a candidate, whether they�re
Chinese, or white, or black, saying oh if I can only get the Chinese vote I can win� well what about me? I�m� see� I�m the average guy, that�s why we�re successful, Ray and I represent the average guy in NJ, blue collar white people�

Rossi: There you go.

Carton: And no one gives a damn about us anymore�

Rossi: That�s right.

Carton: And if we cry about it� you know what�s brought up? Slavery... or if we cry about it� well you know, ching chong, ching chong [Mimics Chinese accent] you bombed us [Chinese accent] you know? The fact is, I don�t care if whites are a minority, it doesn�t matter to me, there�s no voice of the average blue collar white guy anymore, cuz all these politicians are worried about the fringe groups.

Rossi: Well that�s the thing�

Carton: God forbid you offend an Asian, really! And I hate it� god forbid that a politician was out here and offends Asians, or blacks, or old people� but at the end of the day, I�m the guy that�s gonna get them elected�

Rossi: There you go.

Carton: And they don�t give a damn about me!

Rossi: Nope.

Carton: Well the second Thursday in May they will� cuz Ray and I are hosting the only in-state debate amongst at least the Republican candidates�

Rossi: That�s right

Carton: Almost all of them confirmed, is that right , C-dog?

C-Dog: That�s right.

Carton: It�ll be myself, Ray Rossi and Bob Ingle of the Gannet newspaper chain and every guy running for uh... governor on the Republican side will be here in studio because you know� we care! And were not gonna let these guys cater to minority groups simply cuz it makes them look good.

Rossi: Exactly

Carton: You have to cater to me, bitches.

Rossi: Hmmm, that�s it.

Carton: I�m the rain maker.

Rossi: Look at that, the rainmaker

Carton: Well, that�s a little cocky though

Rossi: Well, no, that�s a tad on the cocky tip but that�s alright, that�s okay.

Carton: It�s May 12th by the way, 4pm� If you�re running for governor, you�re invited but you have to go through C-dog cuz I don�t know want weedman showing up� �No, you guys said I was invited, I�m running� Typical keeping it brother� No he�ll wanna ask some of the questions� [Mimics voice]

Rossi: Right [Laughter]

Carton: All right� here�s Sharon in Edison NJ on 101.5. How you doin� Sharon?

Caller: Hi, I love you

Carton: Thank you.

Caller: You just said it all, the last couple of � callers, I guess they don�t know that they live in America and we�re being overrun. I had just moved out of Edison because of what has happened in the past 10 years� Orientals are all along, the whole complete route 27. And Indians have taken over Edison in north and all over.

Carton: Damn Orientals and Indians.

Caller: I..i moved out..36 years I�ve lived in Edison

Carton: And what was the biggest problem you had with the Orientals and the Indians ?

Caller: I can�t handle them! There�s no American people anymore.

Carton: Eh..

Caller: There shoving us the hell out!

Carton: It�s like you�re a foreigner in your own country isn�t it?

Caller: You go to own store and you can�t even see American people, you don�t see our own kids, American kids, working in stores anymore�

Carton: Like the next time you see an American, you think you�ll probably hug him or high five him or something?

Caller: Oh, that�s why where I moved too, that�s all I have, thank god for now anyways.

Carton: Yeah I�m with you� Sharon, we�re just the voice of the people, and I appreciate your call.

Caller: Keep up the good work.

Carton: All right, you got it baby� I think the quote was damn �Orientals and Indians.�
[Child rendition of American anthem on and fades into background]

This is like something from the cutting room floor of "American History X". Usually I'm not like this, but I say put these Carton & Rossi guys on a desert island with Jonesy & her crew and pray for a tsunami. >:(

America Doesn't have to apologise to Asians,Hiapanics or East Indians because they where not "used" to build America they didn't lose their culture they have not suffer under Jim Crow and lynchings . How ever African Americans where use to build the White house and all of the old building across the country. Navtive Americans also need an apology for the genocide committed against them.African Americans where in America for hundreds of years and haven't recieve not on single apology and don't say that African sold each other into slavery. Because knowbody is by that theory ,what about the whippings the lynchings did African did that to each other as well.America is in "Denial of heart and soul". At the end of the day People need to know their real heritage their history. Nobody is trying to bring up the past but slavery did exist denie it or not.I wish kids would be taught tribal dances and learn the African drums and instuments and about African animals and games at a special place.Just how BET shoves rap and hip-hop down their throuts.I wish when I visit a African American Area in New York I see African style murals. Africa is suppose to be the oldest continent,and it's people need to know that.I am not saying get into this Afrocentric garage.But get into the real deal not the myths of the North African pyrimids but basic for real stuff.

What America doesnt have to apolgize to the Asians, Hispanic and Indians because they where not "used" to build America. Who put the railroads during the 1900's, who did they imprison into "concentrations camp" during WWII, who cleans your dishes when you eat at a restaurants. "White" America is built upon the labors off all Immigrantes blacks, white, asian, hispanic, indians alike so dont go saying America owes nothing to the asians, hispanics, indians and anyother immigrants that arent Black. Every minority suffered from lynchings and Jim Crow laws. Read up on your history.

Ok, here's my problem and I am shocked that nobody pointed this out: WHERE in Africa? It's a Continent of roughly 52 countries. Nobody -- least of all the reporter -- thought to ask where? The fact that it says a "real Zulu prince" might be in the video seems to indicate that it would be shot in South Africa. That would make sense because Luda has been there and shot a segment for MTV from there. But it would have been nice if the "reporter" had bothered to find out.

WTH you are missing the point. I know alot of history and Asians and Hispanics didn't start arriving in large numbers until the early 50's &60'sFACT! African Americans and Native Americans where lynch in large numbers before the second migration FACT!!European Americans force their Culture on African Americans,they where thought that they where Savages that is why Asians,Hispanics and East Indians still respect and practice homeland traditions.You will find Very,Very,Very,few records of Hispanic lynchings or Asian lynchings FACTS!! The railroads build by those people where compensated and they where reconzined for all of that.I have nothing against other minorities, but the FACT is they have it alot easier than people from the victorian period when skin color was the only think that defined you FACT!! When I say SLAVERY only Native Americans would understand because they where also held captive. 30 million people died during the cross to The Americas FACT!! All I'm saying is African Americans need to reclaim what was token away.Maybe you don't understand cause you still have knowledge of you heritage.Irish Americans still carry thier Last names and still have alot of their heritage,Hispanic Americans still have their culture and the same with Asians can you tell me One West African tribe name or one African animal no right.But people know about latin languages and foods. Why can't BET have a station for the kids to teach them something about their culture. Thats all I'm saying.

Yeah brie, I think that's part of what Trent was pointing out when he posted the other article.

mondez: you're arguing with a straw man, nobody in here compared anything with slavery or the middle passage etc.. none of this has anything to do with whether that radio broadcast was offensive.

I am not arguing at all.just giving some simply FACTS.

Mondez - your grasp of American history is superficial at best. All these "facts" you're stating are nothing of the sort. I mean, you sound like one of those right-wing, white morons who complain about "all them goddamn Mexicans coming into our country" when most of the Southwest and California used to be part of Mexico before it got annexed, ok? Moreover, immigration from Latin America was massive long before the 1950s. Who the fuck do you think built the agricultural industry out West? Chew on those facts.

By the way, I agree with you, the *numeric* suffering of Black slavery and Native American genocide is certainly greater than what you might compare with other groups of color but c'mon, trying to argue around differential suffering is on some divide and conquer shit. You clearly don't know shit about Asian American or Latino American history or the kind of suffering endured by those populations (dating well back to the 19th century, not the last 40 years).

Im not arguing that black and native american didnt have it bad and its true they have lost their culture from their homeland. Im arguing the fact that you stated "America Doesn't have to apologize to Asians,Hiapanics or East Indians because they where not "used" to build America".

When I say apologize I mean for slavery and the Genocidal behaviour.I know that Asians and Hispanics build alot of America FACT!, My theory is Asians and Hispanics don't ask for apologies because that is not their "Hug from Papa" The Reconciliation Day.I mean African Americans lost so much of their heritage.Native Americans are treated as outcast in society but still have a wonderful culture.They haven't lost that much because this is their homeland land.At the end of the day I am not the one dening anybody. I would just like to see justice and healing for these hurting people I want to see people show some pride in the culture.Reclaim what they need.

I quote Mondez Ferrington who said....

'Why in the hell is Ludacris talking about pimping in South Africa. The country leads the world in AIDS cases,Rape and murder. South African men are very sick the "Gang Raped a 3month baby"."Baby Rape" is wide pratice in South Africa.'

Well what can I say? This is another case of a misled muthafucking American running his mouth. You are so misinformed, but what is even more irksome is the tone of blind assurance with which you state your 'facts' about South Africa.

For your information, South Africa does not have the highest HIV/AIDS cases in the world, that title in fact goes to India.

Secondly, it is true that there was a widely publicized case about men who raped an infant in 2001. However, where your facts bungle is where you dizzily proclaim that South African men are very sick, and that the rape of infants is a rampant practice in South Africa.

I really don't feel the need to say more on your factual inaccuracies.

What I will say is this...that rape and AIDS are misfortunes that we as South Africans, like every other country in the world, have to face up to.

However, questioning Ludacris' video shoot in this country because of the fallacious 'reasons' you have provided leads me to think of reasons in the twent-fold why Ludacris should not shoot the video in the United States of America!

To reach that number of reasons I would not have to even touch members of other races in that country- I'd have to concentrate on you blacks. Shiiit!

What in the hell are you talking about, Fool?

Next time... you need to shy away from populist hear-say, and find out the facts before you go running your mouth again.

I didn't use any dirty language or any swears against anybody on this board.As far as the baby rape situation you are wrong because I am not talking from word of mouth but statitics given by the South African government.President Thabo Mbeki him selve call baby rape the sicks crime in the book,He was under pressure from alot of people because of this dispicable situation that goes on daily.And for the Aids epidemic India has 1.2 billion people,South Africa population is around 40 million .To call what I am saying about culture black s--- is rude and extremley wrong.I never said I wanted other races to concentrate on blacks notice I spoke about Native Americans and African Americans.I don't know who you are but I can't come on this board and call you a fool people will have their own say.Why would I want other races to concentrate on something that is not their own it doesn't even make since.I would guess you are a South African who is letting of some steam.

Mondez, as far as I'm concerned...the only thing that comes out your mouth is hot air.

Just by looking at responses to your other thread-postings makes me realize what I suspected all along- the fact that you suffer from two astringent afflictions: 1) Delusions of Grandeur and 2) Putrid Spelling.

Aight, 'nuff said...

You know nothing about me so go rape your 4 year old daughter.

aww...no, sorry mondez...
you're probably confused...it must be american women sick enough to do something like that. I unfortunately don't fall under the category of sick south african men.

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Let's not forget that hip-hop originated in Africa. So this is like taking the music back to where it came from.