Very interesting and impressive. All those people calling him arrogant (and I'm sure he is at times); need to keep in mind the courage it took for him to do that. Particularly, since much of White America doesn't want to hear anything about race and his album just came out. He could face a backlash, which makes it even more courageous. Thanks for the post--I have been unable to keep up because guests are at my house and my internet went down, so I appreciate it.

way to go kanye - as a white person myself, i have been so outraged by the (lack of) response by our government - george w should be impeached immediately. kanye was very very brave and spoke for more than just himself. let us reach out to each other across races and social boundaries to help -

Yikes, you go boy. although i do think that some of the people in New Orleans have completely lost their religion. he is basically right.

go kanye!

here's the clip:
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Kayne-West-Bush-Black-People.mov

oops, i just noticed those were clips youposted up to (i thought they were just reports about the TV appearance)

KNAYE IS NOW THE OFFICIAL "KING OF HIP HOP"

As someone who lives in New Orleans, I need to speak here. What Kayne said and did, while brave, was also rather foolish. I dont think the government reacted slow because of race, because many trapped people and dying people are also white. Although, I am quite infuriated by these slow reactions, they are far more due to FEMA and others than Bush(and this is coming from someone who doesnt really like Bush). The looting, for the most part, is terrible and should be punished. Those looting for food and water are doing absolutely nothing wrong, but much of the looting is not so innocent. It leading to the burning down of buildings(an entire Mall was burned to the ground yesterday), and in many pictures you can see these people breaking into drug stores for prescription drugs and alcohol, while other break into other stores, stealing clothes, shoes, and other non-essentials. These looters are pulling cops and workers away from rescuing others who are still trapped in their homes or on their roofs. How is that forgivable? I personally know people who have had their homes completely spared by the storm, but have since learned that everything of value in their home was carried off by looters. I also want to make it clear that the majority of Blacks down there in the city have done nothing wrong, they have been victims, just as my family and everyone else I know has(although many of them are going through alot more hell than I have in this experience).

GO KANYE!!!!!!!!!!

I mean really...how gully was that?

GO KANYE!!!!!!!!!!!

He didn't seem nervous. He seemed emotional.

Althought I don't disagree with the comments he made. I do feel it was very selfish and inappropriate for Kanye to make those comments. It just confirms that celebrities often take advantage of their camera time to express their thoughts, but without tact or intelligence. That program was intended to motivate people to donate. Kanye was discussing political issues, wrong show Kanye! This is a telethon for the Red Cross, not Crossfire or Politically Incorrect. Nothing he said motivated me to donate, it simply had me questioning what show this was. It makes me think of his story, he went shopping before thinking of donating. There is a pattern here of selfishness, he appears on a Red Cross telethon to express his political beliefs. Boy, he is definitely striking out. Good thing he has money to donate, hopefully he really does it.

I have to agree with Nino...this didn't make me want to donate.

I think mike myer's reaction really made that all the more special.

double post, i know, but i just read that they edited this out of the west coast broadcast

nino, what a shame you think that. it doesn't stop me from wanting to donate. rather, i am glad that someone spoke out about what is happening there.. if anything, it should make people want to donate more, seeing how worthless the state has been in providing for people's health and safety (what kanye is saying). i'm glad to hear people with brains who know to be critical of the implications of race and class in this whole mess, and why it's as bad as it is right now.

if anything, even if you don't agree with what kanye is saying (read: even if you have your head in the sand), that was the furthest from selfish i could think of. if he was being selfish, he woulda sucked up what he thought and simply delivered the uncritical lines they wanted him to spew out so that he could continue making his record sales without any trouble and shit like that. selfish? gimme a break!

i don't even like kanye generally, but i respect him all the more now.

lmao @ these sellouts trying to take away from Kanye....

*puts up black fist*

I finally have a reason to buy Late Registration.

Thank you, Kanye.

I’m feeling what missruckus is saying. Yes, maybe Kanye's delivery wasn’t completely thought out - some of his sentences were incoherent as hell. However, what I like about Kanye is that he is trying to make history understand that he is "different". Selfish? Maybe... or maybe not. Is it not true that blacks, in general, have been defined by the media, usually creating negative stereotypes that the rest of us have to deal with? So what if, perhaps, a young black man (representing all blacks mind you) gained the media's eye and told the world that he was different. Wouldn’t all blacks then be perceived as different. At least, that is what I hope the goal is. While most rappers (as well people in power) strive to "get rich or die trying", it seems like Kanye wants to "create change… or die trying". That sounds like a revolutionary to me. What Kanye said to me was, "our government is too busy with foreign affairs to respond to this event, therefore we must take control and help these people, our people. If we don’t, we know no one else will.” I cant speculate on why it's taking Bush so long, but if those people holding SOS signs on roofs were Bush's closest friends and allies we wouldn’t be having this convo!

I wanna buy his album just so he can write that on the back. He has a new fan in me.

Problem is Nino.... He said what everyone else is thinking. It seemed like some sick joke when that fact was pointed out on the internet. but once someone like him says it on tv.... Now everyone will remember that.

I've heard people ask cruel things like "Wasn't that a red state anyway?"

And let me also point out how many helicopters fly by and take photos for their newspapers of people trapped on their roofs... Not a damn one of them flew down there to HELP people. Shoot. The truth is in the doing not the saying. Notice how he even pointed out that he's been shopping selfishly and he's gonna change that? Now... when is he suppose to say something like that... when the people who don't wanna hear it aren't listening. HA! Now it's in their face... Like that?

Mike Meyers was scurred because Bush can still send his ass back to Canada...

since the cops are looting and all why dont we folks turn ou anger into resistance the whole fucking army is in iraq i say insurrect enough is enough!
everywhere all over the world ppl are resisting neoconservatism globalisation its time for regime change in washington let topple the whole deck of cards. plz dont just help others help yourselves.
if only ppl could become aware off the power they have u hear all in the mainstream media about anarchy in the streets of New Orleans, lets make it happen for real this time. the time has come for dubya to run like chicken to his junta allies.
and this isnt about class its about ppl and we must work together becouse united we can never be defeated.!

enough is enough/basta ya!

Get real, will you people!!!That was a disgrace to blacks what Mr. West said live on air! How many blacks are rolling up their sleeves and saying how can I help!!! In those poor neighborhoods EVERYONE was effected. I don't think the storm chose them and I don't think everything is George Bush's fault. Mayor Nagin of New Orleans used the language "I'm begging people to leave New Orleans" before the hurricane struck. How many people going to get help, shelter, shower and hot meals are going to turn around and volunteer to help? Is anyone grateful for the help they've gotten? No, Kanye West, Al Sharpton are first to criticize, let them jump into the fray and get down and dirty. No they want to poison the minds of blacks and keep people racially divided-well you can bet-MOST OF THE MONEY SO FAR HAS BEEN DONATED BY WHITES!!!!! Welfare has been taking care of most of these people for a long while, when do they give back? You yell and scream about not getting help, why are you not yelling about the looting and hold-ups AT HOSPITALS for drugs-holding up doctors who are trying to help people. Where's your soapbox response that Kanye?????? Why aren't you telling BLACKS to stand up and act with pride and help each other while help is coming instead of placing blame anywhere else. Shame on you and all the finger pointers, let people get their jobs done and shut the hell up and HELP! I was planning on giving every week, I made my initial donation and have been plugging donations on other blogs. Hey, Kanye you don't need my help, you were the last complainer I need to hear. I therefore will send nothing further. I'm sure donations dropped off after your remarks---SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BOYCOTT KANYE!!!!. SEND HIM TO NEW ORLEANS! If you think he's some kind of hero, you have your priorities wrong. Everyone wants equality! ACT with equality.

Last night, instead of following NBC's script, Kanye let his emotions come to the surface and spoke the truth about a subject that Bush, the Republicans and the media have tried to cover-up. I happen to be a 57 year old Polish-German American and I don't like hiphop. I do greatly applaud the courage Kanye displayed in cutting through all of the window-dressing surrounding the horrible aftermath of Katrina to speak from his heart, something we hear all too little of nowadays. Thanks, Kanye.

ron chaplin-well good for you. did mr.kanye inspire a donation for the rescue efforts from you????

Oh come on. Kanye is an idiot. He is no leader. Some of the points were valid in that we were not doing enough. FEMA is to blame. They are the ones not doing their job. Bush is an easy misguided target (AND I DIDN'T VOTE FOR HIM or LIKE HIM, I'm just educated enough to really see what's going on). This is not a BLACK/WHITE thing... it's a people thing and Kanye was way out of line for his misguided comments and extreme lack of professionalism. If that's the way he "publicly speaks'" then the guy needed to pay better attention in school. He must need lots and lots of practice and buy out TONS of studio time to convey anything. Look at what's really going on people and not what this fool says.

If people are in need of your help and you can make a difference by donating money (I don´t know if you can...) should it affect you what Kanye says or does not say? Also, by saying that he went shopping before donating money I think he makes us think about how we all act. Thanks for making me think, Kanye!

There are alot of people hating on what Kanye did and saying that he cant speak properly. I'd like to see you go on the air and start speaking straight from the heart and not be nervous. What he did there was go out on a limb for what he beleives. What he did was risk album sales and popularity, the way the man eats, to call that selfish is not fair. He was honest and straight up with us saying he had just gone shopping and was going to donate, and if this clip didn't convince me to donate, nothing will. I used to respect him only as a rapper and producer, now i respect him as a revolutionary. one.

Kanye was wrong. There is nothing like his comments destroying the efforts of everyone to raise money and help all of the vicitims of New Orleans. Was his reason to go on the show really to pitch in and help his fellow man or to promote his own Political Agenda?

This is an outrage. When people are hurting, Kanye is of the intelligence to think that this was the right place and the right time to speak his opinion. I do not dispute that the people of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama have been left to fend for themselves. I do not dispute that the news has been showing the plight of the people and making it look inflammatory for people of color. The Government has been slow to respond, to people of all color. The Government at all levels has not done their job. The facts are the facts. Now, we all have seen the misery of all of the victims of the hurricane. but for Kanye to say what he had to say is irresponsible. He only went on the benefit concert to promote his own selfish needs. If he really wants to make a difference, have him get on the front line. Then encourage him to run for office. The mark of a true American is to pitch in, get the job done and then deal with the why events unfolded the way that they did. Kanye took the easy way out.

It is unfortunate that Kanye is using his celebrity to create his own hurricane to create more problems. Now, it is time for him to fix what he broke.

Kanye is a stupid asshole. Quite trying to make yourself hard...you ain't.

with all the controversy over kanye's mc'ing skills(or lack of)and now his "george bush does not care about black people" speech, it can be said that he is not he most articulate person. Unfortunately because of this, his comments on the hurricane relief placed this most serious issues in an irrelevant black/white context. However, i think kanye was was trying to say that george w doesnt care about POOR people (most of whom are black, because of a governments creation of biased social conditions which favor the retention of power and wealth in the small predominately white upper class).
I agree kanye is brave for what he said, but maybe his ideas and thoughts are not that different or original...again another debatable issue with respect to his recycling of lyrics and sampling. Sorry but for someone who "speaks from his soul" it’s sometimes hard to separate the man from his music.

is not kanye guilty of using the same media he condemned to perpeuate the stereotye of African AAmericans always placing issues in terms of black vs. white? especually when matters of the heart and soul are often complex and grey

Kanye you betta watch your back now. I agree partly with what you said but I agree with the arguments here for your negative outburst. Anyway just incase you may read this. Your girl Michelle Malkin really tryin to blow you out on her weblog michellemalkin.com...it amazes me how people are so quick to make judgement on a people when they are not and never have been in a similar situation (and I mean only in regards to her comment on kanye and other questionable comment)... Malkin its only a matter of time before your Hurricane Katrina is coming to you.........Anyway

Jay Im surprised about your coverage on this hurricane... Your coverage of the hot97 tsunami song which was a total tragedy on the part of hot97 was much more filled with a sense of righting wrongs made than what Im seeing on your blog now. Strangely your not saying anything really at all. Or mabye Im just jumping to conclusions to soon....but you are now questionable in my eyes.......mabye you realized something

'Imminent Domain'....the government bout to get in your..ish.

unlike tiger woods who fucus his views on stealing, Kanye recognized that people are dying. Why are they using police to protect stores when people are still waitng to be rescued. Once again cooperate interest exceeds human basic needs. This is the new America i guess! America went to war for money, so poor white and black people does not offer any financail interest. thanks kanye

How incompetent is the mayor of New Orleans? He left all of the city school buses in their parking lot when he could have sent them thoughout the impoverished areas of the city to evacuate the poorer citizens. Instead he rails about the incompetence of the Fed response, yet he did "beg" citizens to evacuate. Bush made available relief funds even before the storm, yet Kanye puts blame on Bush when this catastrophe is so big on so many levels and so many officials had a hand in planning relief before and after. When will people stop crying discrimination? JUST GET BACK IN AND HELP!

How is it that we allow people to say something like that? I mean it's a double standard. I being white understand what the problem is, and I have the same sources for information as anyone else does. But somehow we can blame, 'The hatred of black people in America', for people not leaving, looting, shooting at people who are TRYING TO HELP, and tell people that it's because 'America hates blacks'. I don't understand how that is allowed and it makes me sick.

VERY BRAVE AND COURAGEOUS,WE NEED MORE PEOPLE LIKE KANYE WEST,THE TYPE OF PEOPLE WHO STAND UP FOR WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN,DESPITE THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

Y' know, people who dislike Kanye's comments either find any celebrity political speech inappropriate, or find anyone who speaks openly about race difference in America divisive. Thankfully, we still have a First Amendment.

Look, Kanye West, not the most articulate brother, spoke from the heart about an issue that was taxing everyone's belief in the goodness of American government. Kanye didn't say anything that the Congressional Black Caucus, the NAACP, and the Rev. Jesse Jackson hadn't been saying all day long.

Furthermore, there has been a difference in federal reaction between 9/11 victims in New York and Katrina victims in New Orleans. It's obvious. Whether or not you consider the difference classist or racist or whatever, please admit the difference existed. President Bush toured the affected Gulf Coast region yesterday and met with only one Black person - N.O. Mayor Ray Nagin. Ask yourself why.

Kanye West had the balls to speak his mind, on the week where his album sales could be affected. I respect that. So should we all.

What a shame...I have jammed many-a-time to him and "Gold Digger" is the bomb, but.....So um, Bush doesn't like black people huh? Funny, but take a look at his "cabinets." Last time I checked, the person responsible for my child's safety along with mine and all of yours, is black- and I feel DAMN safe. Condy is one of the most powerful people in the world thanks to Bush's recognition of her efforts. Let's not forget about Colin. Bush has done wonders for minorities in this country and I am appalled that instead of seeing what more he can do (based on his dissatisfaction with what Bush has done), Kanye chose to abuse an opportunity to unite people across the country in a relief effort by discreditting someone who has more balls than he does. I guess it is easier to point fingers and look away than it is to take ownership. Yeah, big man..Kanye got on a stage and usurped his infamy with a blurb. Funny, but I seem to have seen news footage of Bush in the sweltering heat, walking amongst the people of the Gulf states, wading in water and looking pretty affected. Meanwhile Kanye was in a club with a bottle of Kristal and appropriately enough, a gold digger. I love hypocrits. Oh and by the way Kanye, don't "white" people live in Lousiana too? Or do they not need help also? I am a proud, black woman and I think Bush has a very difficult job that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I don't think he doesn't care about black people, like I said "wonders for minorites." That's why I voted for him. Yeah I voted for him, twice, and if given the opportunity, I would do it again- but I'll never buy another Kanye CD. Thanks for bringing negativity to an effort that is supposed to bring hope.
Do me a favor, instead of buying his new release, donate the monies to Red Cross.

Double post, I know but I had to.
James: turn on CNN so you can watch how many black, hispanic and white people George Bush walked hand-in-hand with yesterday. I counted 7 black families alone that were taped being hugged by W. Holding a weeping woman as his forehead cringed, you can tell he was fighting back his own tears. Ignorance is not bliss. This goes out to Kanye, James and everyone else that makes comments that are not FACTUAL: stop talking shit if you're unhappy and GIVE instead. Give your time, money, prayers or blood. Do you know that one donation of blood saves three lives? We're all losing sight of reality and unless you've lived through a devastating hurricane, you have no idea how difficult it can be to help people when accessibility is hindered. Having REBUILT from scratch 13 years ago after Andrew, I can tell you that effort, drive, desire and want does not suffice when there's no way to get to you. I'm thankful, as I still live in Miami. And while I went three days without power, the news footage is proof that it may have been much worse for me. If mother nature can be color-blind, why can't we?

Thank you Kanye West. Now go back to your house on the hills, Escalades, and hos. Clearly you know how to run the government

Disappointed, I watched CNN all day yesterday; the only people of color I saw him touch were two sisters in Mississippi.

But that's not the point. Of course people are giving. Neither my comment or Kanye West's will stop people from giving money. You act like people who were going to give money to the Red Cross will stop themselves because Kanye West and I think George Bush doesn't care about Black people.

He doesn't.

I'm disappointed that the federal response to this tragedy is so shameful. I'm disappointed that American taxpayers are dying in the streets of New Orleans on George W. Bush's watch. I'm disappointed that American citizens were stuck in inhumane conditions on American soil. And I'm disappointed that they are predominantly poor and Black.

A color-blind response to this tragedy would have been George W. Bush treating every American at risk like the richest Americans - getting them out of harm's way.

We all give. But Kanye and I are right to be disappointed. I'm glad Kanye spoke up.

Kanye West looted New Orleans.

I'm a student at the University of Houston and in the Honor's college. My professor asked the class to read a chapter in the book America Compared... in which it spoked of "Colored People," regarding how America infiltrated the Indians and their land... but he didn't go there... couldn't--cause he was to damn scared to say that!--- and mind you that I'm probably one of fifteen in the Honors College--as this is a honors course.. and we have at least (300) other students non-Black. Now, while discussing this chapter we as African-American's were referred to by him and the students as "Colored People," and today we are Refugees. Come on now, if anybody can hear me... this book was written almost 30 or 40 years ago and today they are calling us Refugees... do you see. or are. you just. BLIND. I love Kanye for what he did... though you speak and write how many of you actually will go against the odds-the-grain to say how you truly feel... is it because of money...? Nope, I think the BROTHER just had to let if off his chest. Got something to say about my comments.. read my magazine that I produce where we are all about arts-politics at www.literafeelymagazine.net ... and I know on Tuesday once I return to class.. we will be still discussing the "Colored People!"

the folks that attack Kanye for being out of place need to wake up. How is there a right time or palce for what was said. That kind of talk is severly restricted by social norms and of course media controls. If what was said could actually stop someone from donating than those words are needed more than ever. Forums such as political talk shows are meant for entertainment and grouped in a fashion that makes them easily dissmissed as opinion or rhetoric. what was said is on the tip of everyones toungue and needed to be said in such a setting.
Right on Kanye!

Whoah--who let all the George Bush kool-aid drinkers into this party?? This site must-have jumped up high in searches for this story on Kanye--thus all the right wing wacko viewpoints. All that being said--more power to ya Kanye. You are one brave soul, brother. I just wish you weren't such a rare commodity.

LOL@Jane saying exactly what I was thinking.

And seriously, if what Kanye said is going to stop people from donating, they must not have cared that much in the first place.

...and if you can't see the race and class issues that are all up IN this tragedy, then yeah, you're a moron.

THE SIMPLE FACT IS THAT THE ONLY THING KANYE WEST ACCOMPLISHED WITH HIS COMMENT WAS NEGATIVITY AND THIS BLOG IS BLATANT PROOF. THE ISSUE HAS NOW GONE FROM "LET'S HELP THESE PEOPLE," TO A RACIAL/POLITICAL ISSUE. THE TRUTH IS THAT GEOGRAPHY AND NATURE SUNK THESE PEOPLE-NOT BUSH AND NOT KANYE. NEW ORLEANS, SPECIFICALLY, IS BELOW SEA LEVEL AND THE LEVY WAS OUTDATED BY SOME 50 YEARS-TWO THINGS WHICH AGAIN, ARE NEITHER W'S NOR KANYE'S FAULT. HURRICANE KATRINA MOVED MUCH TO SLOWLY IN THE WARM WATERS OF THE GULF AND GAINED MUCH MORE STRENGTH THAN ANYONE THOUGHT (HERE AGAIN, NEITHER BUSH NOR KANYE ARE AT FAULT). YET WHILE BUSH IS JUST DOING HIS JOB THE BEST WAY HE CAN GIVEN THE SUPREME ROAD BLOCKS IN HIS WAY (OR LACK OF ROADS THEREOF), KANYE IS DRESSED IN $1000 SHOES, STANDING ON A STAGE USING HIS FACE TO DRAW ATTENTION AWAY FROM THE REAL ISSUE BY DEFAMING A MAN WHO IS ACTING AND NOT JUST TRASH TALKING. GET REAL GUYS-YOU DON'T KNOW IF BUSH DOES OR DOES NOT CARE ABOUT AFRICAN-AMERICANS. THE ONLY THING WE CAN GO BY IS HIS PAST ACTIONS. THERE ARE MORE AFRICAN-AMERICANS, HISPANICS, ASIANS, MINORITIES AS A WHOLE IN HIGH LEVEL POLITICAL POSITIONS IN THIS ADMINISTRATION THAN ANY OF THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS. THEY OWE IT TO BUSH'S RECOGNITION OF THEIR EFFORTS AND NOT THE COLOR OF THEIR SKINS. I TAKE OFFENSE TO THE COMMENT NOT BECAUSE IT WAS AN ATTACK ON BUSH, BUT RATHER BECAUSE IT HAS DRAWN ATTENTION AWAY FROM THE REAL ISSUE...THE BLACK, WHITE, YELLOW, BROWN, GREEN, PURPLE (ETC) PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOTHING LEFT. INSTEAD OF INITIATING ANOTHER RACIAL DIVISION, KANYE COULD HAVE ACTED IN A MORE RESPONSIBLE WAY IF THOSE WERE REALLY HIS BELIEFS, BY DRAWING POSITIVE ATTENTION TO THE EFFORTS. I GUARANTEE YOU THAT THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO, WHILE ON HOLD AWAITING THEIR TURN TO DONATE WITH TEARS IN THEIR EYES, SUDDENLY HAD A MOOD SWITCH AND SAID "WHO IS THIS IGNORANT IDIOT?" YET, I AM GLAD HE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE HIS COMMENT AS IT ONLY SHOWS WHERE HIS INTERESTS ARE. IT'S EASY TO BLAME OUR GOVERNMENT FOR EVERYTHING AS THAT IS WHAT THE AMERICAN WAY SEEMS TO HAVE BECOME. YOU DON'T LIKE SOMETHING, YOU COMPLAIN. WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO CHANGING YOUR OWN LIFE? TOO MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE IT IS THEIR RIGHT TO BE HELPED. INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO CHANGE IT FOR YOU, GET OFF YOUR ASS AND DO SOMETHING. GOD HELPS THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELVES. BLESSED ARE THE MEEK-NOT THE COMPLAINERS.

Disappointed,

It's BEEN a "racial/political issue."

Where the FUCK have YOU been living?

apparently not in the same place you have brown as in MIAMI, the relief effort is about help, hope and humanity- not politics or race. People all bleed the same, no matter the color of their skin. We have forgotten that because it's easy to play the race card. I hate when my fellow "brothers" cop-out by pointing the finger at race. I am where I am because of my actions and not the color of my skin. I am the 5th of 7. We lived in a two bedroom apt with my mother and grandmother, well below poverty. The clothes passed to me as a kid always had stains and holes. Yet, I took advantage of the opportunities available to me so that I could change my future and make sure that MY children didn't live in poverty. We all have the same opportunities. So while it would have been easy to waste my potential and my life and chalk it up to race and poverty- I acted and WORKED my ass off to change my future.
so now, I'm even more disappointed as you have confirmed that people don't see it as a RELIEF effort-they see it as a political issue. I hope I never have to donate money to help you brown as I see it will be a waste of my hard earned money.

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first off I am proud of Kanye West for his statements. Im a military member thats from uptown new orleans. and I felt that Kanye Has every right to xpress his feelings if someone put me live Id xpress them 2. tha people hatin on Kanye need to be B**** slapped. because I know that none of U have been down there. my mother is missing and my father, along with most of his side of the family. I got a text from my brother tuesday morning and went AWOL to go down there and help find my family. you D*** right people are taking shoes and clothes, because they dont have a home to go to and change. they wed funky and dirty walkin round in that filthy a** water. hell I helped. and when we got somewhere dry guess what they changed clothes. it at least gave them tha feeling of being clean. I love red cross theyre down there strong. neva been a big texas fan(cause bush was the govenor and I hate him personally). but they get tha thumbs up.

That's what sucks about this posting format--you can't bounce the obvious wacko trolls like "disappointed," who are losing their minds cause a light is being shined on all the nasty mildew that has been hiding under a rug probably, since, oh the Civil Rights movement. The Bush admin. is all about shiney surfaces--thus token Condoleeza (who, heartless beeyatch that she is, was shopping for expensive shoes on 5th Ave. in NY on Wednesday), but anyone with a brain knows that one of their most successful election strategies is doing every underhanded thing possible to keep black people from voting. I swear to you that Carl Rove and Bush looked at that what Katrina did to New Orleans and their first thought was, "Hmmm, a bunch of poor black people. That's not OUR consitituency--fuck it, we'll get there when we get there." Yes people, they are THAT sociopathic.

its funny that when tha tsunami hit we were the first one in line to offer help. I just got back 2 day and say tha Kanye thing. you all just dont know how things are down there. its still people down there starving, stranded, U dont know how many people I ran into that were diabetic and have'nt had they're med in god knows how long. and I agree with Kanye yeah I saw white people there but the majority was black faces. and they're gettin angry quick. personally I think its more of a rich poor thing (unfortunately thats usually a minority thing also). hey if U wanna cheap and quick donation go 2 bungie.net and get a fight tha flood tee. profits go 2 help OUR PEOPLE.I miss U delores Broussard and poppa Broussard.

dont worry bout tha wacko trolls JaneKnowles. hopefully we can help to open theyre eyes to a new view. and mabe they can shine some light on things for us. someday hopefully we wont have those ignorant people, nor reasons for topic discussions as these

You are a bigger person than me, New Orleans. May you quickly find all of yours in good health. My heart goes out to you.

OK SO U PEOPLE HATING ON KAYNE WEST ARE SAYING THAT IF THIS WAS TEXAS OR SOME OTHER STATE, THE SAME TURNOUT LIKE THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPEN? HELL NO!! BUSH WOULDVE HAD THE WHOLE STATE CLEARED OUT BEFORE THIS TRAGEDY. HE AINT LETTING HIS OWN GO OUT BY NO HURRICANE..THIS WAS SIMPLY BUSH KNOWING WAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN...AND DOING NOTHING TO STOP IT FROM HAPPENING. REMEMBER 9-11? OUR PRESIDENT IS AN IDIOT...WAKE THE HELL UP PEOPLE. CONGRATS TO KAYNE WEST FOR HAVING BALLS..HELL ALWAYS BE A HERO IN MY BOOK..AND GOD BLESSED HIM TO SAY WHAT HE SAID.

BOYCOTT KANYE!!!!. SEND HIM TO NEW ORLEANS! If you think he's some kind of hero, you have your priorities wrong. Everyone wants equality! ACT with equality.

Posted by: DL at September 3, 2005 07:52 AM

DL Ure a dumb a** disillusioned muthaf***a. everyone wants equality. survey says......not true being from tha N.O. and bein staitioned in southeast GA, Ive ran into some of tha most racist people ever. I truly hope that everyone wants eqaulity, but tha fact is all of those that arent given equaility want everyone to have equality,and tha "MAJORITY" hopefully want everyone to have equality but tha fact is there are still a LOT of racist people around. like Kanye said racism still alive they just be concealin it.
someone slap DL

i dont even know if america cares about black people

dont even know if america cares about black people

Posted by: mark at September 3, 2005 06:04 PM
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mark please elaborate

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It is unfortunate that Kanye is using his celebrity to create his own hurricane to create more problems. Now, it is time for him to fix what he broke.

Posted by: aptlynamed235 at September 3, 2005 09:18 AM
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aptlynamed235 you cant brake something thats been broke since umm... lets say 1619

What's really funny here is. If you think about it. Why are people getting so mad that he said that. I doubt people said "Oh crap, some idiot said George Bush doesn't like black people. Oh well I'll punish those people down there by not helping."

Things don't work that way. Don't be stupid. If someone has their head in the sand. And you yank it out. They'll get mad cause they put it in there for a reason.

But now that Kanye has said that. I'll be Bush has his doofus a** face out there arm around black people. Or maybe he'll say something stupid like "I'm not racist I have plenty of black friends." Then point to Miss Rice.

I didn't think Mike Myers looked "frozen in horror" or "descended into complete panic." He looked perfectly calm to me. He probably was cheering Kanye on inside.

How SHOULD a President Respond to Impending Disaster

In September 1999, Hurricane Floyd -- a category 3 -- was bearing down the Carolinas and Virginia.

President Clinton was in Christchurch, New Zealand - meeting with President Jiang of China (you know, actually working). He made the proclamation that
only Presidents can make and declared the areas affected by Floyd "Federal Disaster Areas" so the National Guard and Military can begin to mobilize. Then he cut short his meetings overseas and flew home to coordinate the rescue efforts. This all one day BEFORE a Cat-3 hit the coast. That is how you do it.

How about this dope's own father during Hurricane Andrew? Once again, President Bush (41) -- August, 1992 -- was in the midst of a brutal campaign
for re-election. Yet, he cut off his campaigning the day before and went to Washington where he martialed the largest military operation on US soil in history. He sent in 7,000 National Guard and 22,000 regular military personnel, and all the gear to begin the clean up within hours after Andrew passed through Florida. 'Cause, you know, those people and their stuff was actually where it belonged, rather than being used for insurgent
target-practice halfway around the world in a vain effort to make Iraq safe for Iranian takeover.

In August of 1969 when Cat-5 Hurricane Camille hit roughly the same area as Katrina, President Nixon had already readied the National Guard and ordered
all Gulf rescue vessels and equipment from Tampa and Houston to follow the Hurricane in. There were over 1,000 regular military with two dozen helicopters to assist the Coast Guard and National Guard within hours after the skies cleared.

Bush 43 - August 2005 - Cat-5 Hurricane Katrina bears down on New Orleans and the Mississippi gulf. Both states are down nearly 8,000 National Guard troops because they are in Iraq -- with most of the rescue gear needed. Bush is on vacation. The day before Katrina makes landfall, Bush rides his bike for two hours. The day she hits, he goes to Johnnie McCain's birthday party; and lies to old people about the multi-billion-dollar pharmaceutical company welfare boondoggle. People are dying, the largest port of entry in the
United States (and fifth largest in the World) is under attack. Troops and supplies are desperately needed. The levees are cracking and the emergency
1-1/2 ton sandbags are ready, but there aren't enough helicopters or pilots to set them before the levees fail. The mayor of New Orleans begs for
Federal coordination, but there is none, and the sandbagging never gets done. So Bush -- naturally -- goes to San Diego to play guitar with country
singer and lie to the military about how Iraq is just exactly like WWII. The levees give way, filling New Orleans with water, sewage, oil and chemicals. Ten percent of all US exports, and 50% of all agricultural exports ordinarly go through this port. It is totally destroyed. Bush decides he'll end his vacation a couple of days early -- TOMORROW --BECAUSE HE HAS TICKETS TO A PADRES GAME! He goes back to the Fake Farm in Crawford, with every intention of doing something on WEDNESDAY about this disaster that happened starting last Sunday night.

Slap me if you want New Orleans Resident. You obviously are able to be blogging today. YOU want equality-start first by learning how to speak and write in English. All these people crying Race and don't want to be called Refugee. Refugees are people seeking refuge. Nowhere in that definition does it call them black, KYm! And Disappointed, you and I share the same views! All the crybabies need their diapers changed--and I repeat an earlier post "How incompetent is the mayor of New Orleans? He left all of the city school buses in their parking lot when he could have sent them thoughout the impoverished areas of the city to evacuate the poorer citizens,now they sit underwater. Instead he rails about the incompetence of the Fed response, yet he did "beg" citizens to evacuate. Bush made available relief funds even before the storm." SO COME ON, DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE ENTIRE AFFECTED AREA IS LARGER THAN HALF OF CALIFORNIA. EVERYONE HAS AN ANSWER. GO HELP PULL BODIES OUT OF THE ATTICS DOWN THERE INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING.

BY the way Jane, Condee can buy whatever shoes she wants, she earned them. Remember, she is Dr.Condoleeza Rice--what is your title ?What have you worked for and earned? Or are you one of those holding out your hand too? Poor me, poor me--stop draining the life out of America----Mark said above,"dont even know if america cares about black people"---Do you care about America?

DL = defending the indefensible. Dude, your man was eating cake--EATING CAKE and strumming on a guitar, yucking it up, on TUESDAY--while Americans were drowning! The same guy who flew back to D.C. to sign special legislation in an effort to save one half-dead white woman. Seriously, save your fire. You're not going to convince ANYONE here that Bush didn't complete fuck-up Katrina and since his failure was so obvious, your attempts to defend him are making you look like an ignorant ass.

I'm not the effing SECRETARY OF STATE out on a shopping spree while Americans are DYING in large quantities! What next? It's okay if Condi fries babies cause she's DOCTOR Rice and she earned it?? Seriously, this is my last post in here. You are way too stupid for me to bother having an exchange with.

first off DL yeah Im bloggin 2day cause I just f***in got back from new orleans. And I garuntee that my english skillz, both verbaly and written are much better than Urs shipmate. Guess that U have'nt learned not to judge a book by its cover. so sad, learn how to read and write in english, that speaks volumes about Ure intelligence level. Son I got tha right to speak and write how I please. bein in tha military that means I defend Ure right to have Ure disillusioned opinion Ironic hunh? and 2 your response to KYm, well again Ure not intelligent enough to see tha symbolism she is tryin to show U.(man Ure bout as deep as a puddle). and buddy Id appreciate if U dont put anything life helpin pull bodies out attics cause buddy Ive been there and Ive done that. half my fuckin family is missin cause where they used to live aint there anymore. so how bout untill Uve done and seen what Ive seen down there dont use that as a point in a blog anymore.

...Um yeah. WHat Kanye did, said I mean, was bold I admit and everybody feels that way. But come on, how fuckin smart did he look? He was completely off topic and had litte to do with the topic. I was confused and yes I hate Bush and yes I agree George Bush does not care about black people, but...He looked and sounded like fool. He made black people look dumber than what we are. He didnt sound confident he sounded iliterate and if he was gonna say it, he coulda of least organized it more. It was just random. He coulda went on Letterman, Leno, TRL, anywhere...But not on a fund raiser.

Credit to Kanye.
To "Disappointed," if you don't get what most people in this blog are saying then accept it, You just don't get it! You can't see it because you haven't experienced it. Note: the government is expected to do the best; that is why the people appoint them. If the best isn't happening, there is reason to be disappointed at the least. As leaders of the wealthiest and most prominent country of the world, their response to this has been embarassing. Whether it be because of racism, laziness, or pure ignorance, the administration had the ability to push for a quicker response. It didn't happen. If the White House is threatened, fighters are scrammed immediately. Now, we are not asking for fighter jets, just some freakin' schoolbuses and some food. Get it! No? Not Yet? Brother, Just be open-minded. BTW, how did you see Kanye's "$1,000 shoes?"

Some things I haven't seen much mention of...
Bush and the rest of the fed knew that this could happen and did not properly give what was needed. The Army Corps of Engineers asked the fed for $105 million a few years ago to shore up the levees and other projects related to the protection of New Orleans. Congress decided only to give $42 million, severely underscoring the needs.

After Katrina hit, Bush said on television "no one could have known that the levees would break..."

Someone above blamed FEMA but that shouldn't totally be the place to place the bullseye. Remember, with America's newfound paranoia, they created the Department of Homeland Security, in which they buried FEMA under. This just adds more bureaucratical red tape.

The question is why was there no staging area by the feds to give aid to Gulf victims prior to Katrina landing? They saw with enough advance that this was going to be a catastrophic event, especially given the special case of New Orleans. Especially given the fact that most of the oil and natural gas comes into the country through that area!!!

I ain't mad at Kanye at all, I knew he didnt do what he did for sales. We need people like him to stand up and put people on blast. Even if he doesn't completely hit the target, we need people to SHOOT! Hopefully, this will wake up hip-hop heads further and show them what rappers are capable of and to stop misusing their voice. I'm sick of hearing bitch, ho, money, and rim talk. We need to build, y'all. Holla.

Kanye West is the new Al Sharpton.

That isn't a good thing.

Hey, N.O. Resident, I think dl was just saying he doesn't think everything is to be blamed on Bush. Nagin didn't do much but beg folks to leave N.O. He didn't have a clue and he's in charge until Feds can step in. Stop blaming and politicizing. I'm proud you helped and I'm sorry for your worries or loss. I could only donate money.Everyone needs to calm, people can't help each other when blacks think whites hate them and whites can get past the walls they put up. Racism isn't as widespread as you think it is, not where I come from. If you just came back from N.O. I'm sure you saw the overwhelming situation. The scope is just huge.

By the way, isn't Kanye West the same guy that said the U.S. government deliberately spread AIDS in Africa to wipe out black people? And that the U.S. government deliberately brings cocaine to black neighborhoods?

from an earlier blog to Latino 808:
How incompetent is the mayor of New Orleans? He left all of the city school buses in their parking lot when he could have sent them thoughout the impoverished areas of the city to evacuate the poorer citizens. Instead he rails about the incompetence of the Fed response"--now those buses are underwater or stolen.

Brad, that is too funny! It alway be the wite man and the guvermen.

Just wanted to clearify a few points on my comments above, since it seemed to spark a few comments from others. I did donate to the Red Cross, that program really saddened me. Not just because of the images, but also because I have a very close friend who's home is most likely under water at this moment. My point is that the celebrities on that show had a job and it was to motivate folks to donate, not to get people to think about racial prejudices surfacing from this disaster. As I said before, I wholeheartedly agree with Kanye. I am from a latin background (minority) and I know if this was a neighboorhood that was predominately white and latin, I'm sure they would show latins looting. I don't like that minorities are synonymous with poverty and crime as the next person. But I do know that the fact is, poverty breeds crime. And until blacks, latins, and other minorities rise above levels of poverty, I don't really see the point in complaining about what the media portrays of us. Nobody is going to help us rise above poverty, we've seen that, we have to do it ourselves. I believe Kanyes act to be selfish because he did what he wanted to do, without any thought of the reaction he may get from many potential donaters. What if he caused certain people to turn the channel because of that. What if people called someone and said did you hear that. Focus was diverted from the subject at hand...which was to DONATE! I didn't lose that focus, but I'm sure there were many who did. Also, for the people that think he put himself on the line, that is just wrong. I've had close friends in Marketing and PR, one thing they always say is, "any publicity is good publicity". He did not put his fame on the line with those comments, just his integrity. The people who are against what he said, probably wouldn't buy his album anyway. So no loss in customers there. Just take a moment to think of his customers, do you think they will not buy his album because of what he said. And even the small group who maybe stop buying his album, do you realize how many more customers he'll get for that comment...he'll be in multiple articles, magazines, newspapers, etc. Free publicity.

dl, N.O. didn't have to be evacuated until the levees broke and the flooding began. who could have moved them? not enough time, maybe? I'm not exactly sure, and I will not pretend to know, but I suppose there wouldn't be enough time to outrun the water. There is a chain of command. His duty is to request (and if need be, demand) assistance from the Feds. He did just that. He can't do it all by himself. I'm sure the city/county employees don't have the means to rescue themselves. This job is for the outsiders like ourselves to help. I assume the Mayor doesn't have resources comparable to the Fed. These resources, which are paid by taxpayers like ourselves, are there for that reason; to assist the citizens of this country. Immediately! ASAP! Me entiendes?

Kanye was in no way wrong, idiotic, or unresponsible in saying what he said. It’s his opinon (which is also shared with a very good part ot the black community and has been for years). This is nothing new it’s been shown over and over again. Kanye just slapped the Bush administration in the face with it. If you are not a memver of the top eshelans of the federal government relax it’s not for you to address no one cares what you think. I’m sure Kanye will be pressured to apol8igize for his statement but I sincerely hope that he doesn’t. All I could do was smile when I saw this, my heart was filled with pride. To see a man who could have easily just read the lines from the teleprompter and go home, chose to put the thoughts of the people out there like that was amazing and inspirational.

Some may argue that this was not the time or the place, but if not now, WHEN!?!, if not at a NBC Telethon, WHERE!?! This was the perfect time and place if it was said any place else (school, NAACP or Congrational Black Causas meeting, place of worship) it would never have gotten the kind of attention this topic diserves. If it this was said at any other time\place many would have turned to the station saw all the African American faces and emidiately turned to another station. This has been stated for years at all of the above but like I said before you turned the channel. Because of the national stage it was said on people had to watch and take notice to the message.

To those who insist on harping on his ability to communicate clearly:

This was a man with something on his heart to say and as scared and nervous as he had to be he got the point across. This was a unwritten unrehearsed act, don’t it you want to see some idotic, unintelligent, inarticulate jiberrish take a look at some of the junk coming out of Bush’s mouth when he is put on the spot. You are judging this man based on one instance of public speaking I’ve seen him speak dozens of times and he is far from unintelligent. If one situation determines weather a person is an idiot then why would the American people insist on putting this Idotic President in the White House.

Nino. Right on bro! That's right--rise above it, accept the help given in such a dire situation, and finally show gratutude--that's how respect is earned. That's not a racial statement it's how people get along. EVERYONE needs help at some time-rich or poor, black or white. There are many grateful people, probably more than not--they just don't make as much noise. Too bad NewOrleans didn't have Rudy Giuliani for mayor.

idontlikeit
yeah man I know that the situation isnt totally Bush's fault. but tha way I see it (because Ive been in the military so long) is that he's Ultimately responsible, and he accepted that responsibility when he swore in. the controversy is why did the help take so long, I believe thats the main reason Kanye had his emotional outburst. Bush didnt handle the situation. and being in the military I know first hand how fast we can respond. and to the majority of the black people down there were sayin tha same thing that kanye said and I guarantee they dont have a clue that he said what he said. since I been back lookin at TV Bush in my opinion hasent proved anyone wrong. everyone take tha time and read the blog by but he was on vacation! she says it the best

For all my Kanye West supporters that don't already have his CD take a listen, it's ok if some of you haters listen to!

Bwana-Don't promote his BS--and by the way-many blacks were totally offended by his untimely speech-fundraising is about hope and inspiration and giving--not whining about something YOU think exists. People work hard for respect and Kanye set the clock back about 45 years. That's what I'm hearing.

to hiphopgetsheaveho
"That's right--rise above it, accept the help given in such a dire situation, and finally show gratutude--that's how respect is earned. "
First of all, it is the Feds' Duty to respond to this immediatly. You are confused about this "help." Kanye is refering to the Feds not the Red Cross. He clearly states that the Red Cross is providing help, and it is appreciated. Once again, the Feds are doing what they are doing because it is their duty, not because of sympathy. Secondly, Kanye was not trying to "earn respect," he is getting a point accross. That point is that not all the actions by the blacks in N.O. should be considered looting. It is survival mode! Yes some N.O. resident (be it white or black) may or may not be abusing the lawlessnes, but we are stereotyping the whole black community by classifying all their attempts to survive as looting.

hiphopgetsheaveho
Where did you get your stats? where did you "hear," this?

hiphopgetsheaveho
"..not whining about something YOU think exists."
Do YOU really thinks it doesn't? Do you really think just because you haven't experienced it, that it doesn't exist? Why are we questioning the existence?

c'mon. let's not use make-believe stats to debate. I doubt there was an "only blacks poll" to determine how many blacks were offended bye Kanye's comments.

Just WHO is doing the stereotyping? The whiners. Do you have "stats" that FEDS are acting out of duty not sympathy??

latino808 I agree with U there it is the feds duty to respond, just like we responded to the tsunami with out being asked. this happened on our land,and by that no request is even needed. and I was there and everyone is like f*** Bush but since Ive been back I havent seen that on tha news. Or how the people in tha dome are sufferin, they hint on it but they havent said anything bout all the dead bodies inside tha dome. its crazy in there.and on the looting issue, when I was there I saw mostly people takin, besides food, diapers clothing and shoes. yeah U had tha retards takin stuff they cant use but it was no where near like Ive seen it on tv
hey latino808....Entiendo

WHINING! THINK! You must be confused. You don’t have to worry about the clock being set back you and Ms. Rice are safe either way.

addy boy,kanye, you hit basically the truth. after all, they have made us non-citizens of this country, by proclaming us to be refugees in a country we are suppose to be a citizen of. it seems to me we are victims of an unfortunate occurrence. bottom line is that people should liven up their sleeping brain.

Yaw, I think a refugee is someone who seeks refuge, not the derogatory description people think. We're just used to hearing about it in foreign countries not hear.

I'm sorry, brother, but I am not whinning. I am having a good debate. AND, you missed the point. Let me make this simple. Is it their duty? Yes. And that is why they have to do it with the resources that their positions (positions as in jobs) offer. That in no way means that they don't sympathize. You get it? Here's an easier version: IT'S THEIR JOB! We are not talking about a non-profit org, we are talking about the Federal Gov. Please don't continue to debate this. Please tell me you understand.

My thing is if the people don't get the food, what are they going to do with it? They can't sell it, I'm sure they can't send it back to the vendors in that condition. The food in those stores would go to waist anyway. There is no reason to even worry about the people taking the food. Oh I guess the "American Way" would be for the stores throw the food in the dumpster.

hiphopgetsheaveho
go to:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=refugee

you will see what dictionary.com says "refugee," means, not what you think it means.

Bwana, I saw a store owner on the news a few days ago. She said she would have gladly given her merchandise away, but why did everyone just trash the shop(which had miraculously survived a lot of damage). I don't think there is anyone here that would complain about taking food, it was terrible about all the other items-tv's, guns, etc that horrified the nation. I would take food to feed my family also. I would never trash someone else's property just because there was no one there to stop me. Those were the images in the news.

hiphopgetsheaveho
the term refugee doesn't belong here today in this situation.
you have to read between the lines. And I don't mean that literally. ;)

hiphopgetsheaveho
let's not debate by using what your neighbor's mother's cousin's saw on TV the other day. Unless you have a good reference, save it.

"One who flees in search of refuge, as in times of war, political oppression, or religious persecution."
Refuge means safety, as in fleeing from anything that threatens, just because a dictionary doesn't mention hurricanes or broken levees-I DID read between the lines!

Hey, Latino808-you must live under a rock-turn on your TV. You can debate by yourself now.

p.s.
ref·uge ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rfyj)
n.
Protection or shelter, as from danger or hardship.
A place providing protection or shelter.
A source of help, relief, or comfort in times of trouble.

I see that this is a little complicated for you. The term has been defined as such because of the association to those circumstances. Thus making it the definition. If you WERE right, then a terrorist would be a refugee because he is fleeing from US threats. A fugitive would also be a refugee.

Did you see the second definition on that page? Here it is: refugee

n : an exile who flees for safety

C'mon. are you still going to continue about this?

And it's still not over. Here is a quote from a Louisiana senator from today:

"But perhaps the greatest disappointment stands at the breached 17th Street levee. Touring this critical site yesterday with the President, I saw what I believed to be a real and significant effort to get a handle on a major cause of this catastrophe. Flying over this critical spot again this morning, less than 24 hours later, it became apparent that yesterday we witnessed a hastily prepared stage set for a Presidential photo opportunity; and the desperately needed resources we saw were this morning reduced to a single, lonely piece of equipment. Mr. President, I'm imploring you once again to get a cabinet-level official stood up as soon as possible to get this entire operation moving forward regionwide with all the resources - military and otherwise - necessary to relieve the unmitigated suffering and economic damage that is unfolding."

So now, even six days after the hurricane has hit, the rescue effort plays second fiddle to Bush's main concern, which is looking good in front of the camera.

:) c'mon, don't get too defensive. I haven't had a chance to turn on my TV. AND, I probably will not for the next hour. What's on TV? Let me know your point. Did you get that definition from TV? Is that your point?

latino808-you wouldn't get the point if you sat on a needle.

THANK U FOR MAKING ME LAUGH SO DAMN HARD KAYNE WEST, YOU SHOULD BE A COMEDIAN!AFTER BEING LITERALLY STUCK TO THE TV NEWS COVERAGE FOR 3 DAYS I COME ACROSS YOUR STUPID ASS COMMENTS AND I LAUGHED SO DAMN HARD!I CRIED!THANK YOU AGAIN!

WHO CARES-You get it, thank God- a sane American on this board.

hiphop, you haven't explained anything. I asked you a question. Where did you get that definition? And, what did you see on TV? You made it sound like something or someone on TV was explaining the definition of "refugee." But you come back with nothing but some feeble remark.

Anyone seeing FoxNews about the rapes at the Superdome. Even in the midst of this disaster, there's no helping some people.

As a Maori-American citizen I must say Kanye west should not be allowed to post his ill-informed opinion as unalienated truth live on television because he will stoop the oysters of America's youth into believing this garbage, as they don't know better themselves and are also ill-informed.
I find his accusations of Bush's discern for blacks unfounded. If the president truely didn't care about black people, he wouldn't currently be planning ways to spend billions of dollars of white citizens tax money to help these people. Right now he's providing clothes, food water, and phone service to around some 2,000 homeless black people who populate New Orleans wich never had it in the first place. They are making out better than welfare and housing.
If Bush truely didn't care about these people, he wouldn't withdraw some 5000 troops from Iraq who could potentially be fighting the evils of islamic fundimentalism to help them. Sorry the rest of the world can't appease your every Whim, Kanye; some of us just don't have teleporters that will magically transport us to every black person in New Orleans and rescue them immediately. He has to keep in mind the water there isn't safe to have troops walk in, and is hardly prepared for massive transport movements in and out. Theres NO reason to endanger troops who work towards the good of the country for a group of people who shoot at medical helicopters and rape thier own dieing women on the sides of the highway.

Personally, as a non white minority, I think Bush is being much to kind to these people. I'm inclined to let them rot in thier own watery, fecal sespool.

I WAS answering you. You posted the defintion of refugee and I used your source: dictionary.com. for the defintion of refuge.

Nicolai, you had a point until your last harsh sentence, but some people ARE behaving terribly in such a dire situation. Raping, robbing, killing while so many are trying to save people. That's totally unacceptable as well.

LOTS OF HAPPY AND THANKFUL PEOPLE ON THE NEWS NOW. FIVE DAYS LATER, 2 MILLION PEOPLE DISPLACED, RIGHT NOW!! TIME WILL HEAL AND ITS JUST GETTING STARTED. JUST KEEP GIVING-NO TIME FOR ARGUING. MORE MIGHT, LESS FIGHT.

Niccolai Tereaie
I will not debate with your opinion, because it is just that; Your opinion. And I respect different opinions. However, it does confuse me when you say "billions of dollars of white citizens tax money." You are not implying that this tax money comes solely from whites, are you? BTW, this money doesn't belong to Bush, but to the US and it's citizens (that includes residents of N.O.). It sounds to me as though you believe it does. Bush is not being too kind. He is doing what he is appointed to do. If order needs to be restored, then it is his duty to get that done. If evacuation is needed, then he must get that done as well. It is not out of kindness, but out of duty. "Personally, as a non white minority, I think Bush is being much to kind to these people. I'm inclined to let them rot in thier own watery, fecal sespool."
Something is definitely cruel about you. A little cold aren't ya? Other than that, carry on with your opinion. I can go on and on about some issues that you are misinformed about, but I have learned from debating with hiphop that some people don't and will never get it!
Much Mahalos! Good nite! God Bless everyone! Hasta Luego!

Excuse me Kanye,

I do care. It's just that I was on vacation. Vacation or Hurricane Katrina, I'm sure the good people of New Orleans would agree that spending time on my Crawford with that Cindy lady is way better than at New Orleans.

-Your President.

latino808, you started off tonight making sense but lost it. How come everyone but you are misinformed(i.e". I can go on and on about some issues that you are misinformed "), nicolai's last few words were mean, but he was right in my opinion. And it seems the GOVT is coming thru and the short term problems are easing, we can only see what time brings.

What has been said and will continue to be said is not that Kanye is ignorant, and idiot or otherwise (regardless of circumstance, and by the way, Kanye's tunes aren't all that-has some good stuff but some of his sh*t is COPIED from others), just that he took attention away from the real issue. I read all the messages, including my previous ones, and realized that one important thing has not been said: Can we stop talking about this publicity stunt and go back to finding a way to resolve the issue and HELP these people? That's what you do when you're not content or satisfied with something- YOU TRY...YOU TRY WHATEVER...but you don't sit back and point the finger. Nobody has all the answers-not Bush and certainly not Kanye. He has alienated the issue and drawn attention to himself, and in Kanye's business, that's what it's all about. Can we stop shining the light on Kanye and move it back to the Gulf states where it belongs? It's his opinion, as I have mine. To quote a kickass line from some UNIQUELY CREATIVE artists: "Opinions are like assholes and everybody's got 'em."

“white citizens tax money” What are you talking about? When did they start separating white and black tax money now? How about your tax money? Don’t you pay taxes also. Providing these things for 2,000 people may sound good to you but when you look at the http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/03/katrina.impact/index.html" target="_blank">30,000 people that are still in N.O. and still homless it doesn’t seem like that much does it. The facts are he didn’t get there fast enough he is doing something unfortunately some people have died that didn’t have to because of his lackluster efforts thus far. You yourself are ill-informed assuming that 5,000 troops are going to be withdrawn from Iraq to help with the help the people of N.O.

“I'm inclined to let them rot in thier own watery, fecal sespool.” Don’t overstep your boundaries it’s not your decision to make.

to my Maori friend.....KIA ORA
U were giving a good arguement untill that last statement, that was as misplaced as Kanye's speach on the fundraiser. thats tha last thing Id xpect from a maori, knowing Ure ancestors history. but thats Ure opinion. anyway

KIA ORA

THE MISPLACED EVACUEES WILL SOON BE SUCKING DRY THE ENVIRONS OF HOUSTON AND OTHER CITIES. THEY WILL END UP WITH MORE THAN THEY LEFT BEHIND AND WILL USE KATRINA AS THEIR GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO GET MORE.

Disappointed - Check out the name of the blog! Many may not use this opportunity the same way but, debating FACTS requires research, which means (if everyone is like myself) we know more than most and are learning from each other while we agree\disagree. To quote my own great comedian "If you don't like what's on change the channel."

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THE MISPLACED EVACUEES WILL SOON BE SUCKING DRY THE ENVIRONS OF HOUSTON AND OTHER CITIES. THEY WILL END UP WITH MORE THAN THEY LEFT BEHIND AND WILL USE KATRINA AS THEIR GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO GET MORE.

Posted by: JUSTYOUWAIT
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so what is Ure soultion, or was that just the opinion of someone who needs jesus n your life dont worry brother Ill pray for U just U wait!

Where is the anger that people presumably on this board expressed about the Tsunami/ HOT97 situation? I included trashed and tried to get d jays fired. But now we see how different levels of the government miserably failed as the old and babies were literally dying in the streets and we are debating Kanye's comments? He said something that many Americans, poor and or black feel. Bush himself may indeed care about black people, but the government has a long standing history of treating the poor and or blacks with a lack of dignity and respect. Please get the proper information on why the response was so poor and why the levy system was not improved. All must be taken into account. And in terms of race, if the media outlets FOX, NBC, etc are raising the issue, then there must be something to it.

And if Kanye’s comments are a reason for not donating money, then you are as clueless and deeply heartless.

If nothing else people are thinking about the state of affairs in thes country. Kanye West is responsible for saying the things that we are all afraid to. The truth of the matter is the George W. Bush messed up. He dropped the ball. For all of you that want to try to blame Fema or the mayor, or the governor or whoever; I say to you play dumb if you want to but, who is the president? Who has the final say-so. He had the power to fix any and everything that went wrong in this crisis. But, he didn't. He sat in his comfy chair trying to line up others to blame for what he knew was coming. THe F-ed up part about it all is so many people sit around sucking up the hand-fed propaganda they feed you. So I say Kanye you are a revolutionary you spoke the truth that others lack the nerve to say. I was already a fan, but now I have grown an all new level of respect for you. "Get down boy, go head get down".

The issue here that everyone is missing is that this was a preventable disaster. There were lots of suggestions from some very prominent political figures before the storm hit to shore up the levies in New Orleans, and everyone ignored them. This is kind of an integral part of the bias that West is talking about that no one's mentioned yet. He would contend that none of the politicians did anything for them because the people who would be hardest hit and most benefited from these precautions would be the poor, who don't have all that much mobilization power or political power, so they got screwed far before all this happened.

Also, I'd like everyone to note that today NBC put on this thing that said that race questions were being brought up in New Orleans and then proceeded to show every single tape of a black child they ever collected in New Orleans. I don't think we should really let them pull that card and forget about the same bias that they keep showing us.

For instance, once that segment was over and they went to see devestation outside the city, they went to an area that was entirely white and then talked to them for quite a while and spoke about their plight.

Just finishing my sentence that I ended too early:

thus totally contradicting everything they had just said.

If you are trying to save yourself you go for food and water...if you are a worthless thug you go for guns and steal things from others..and rape and pillage and all those other nice things. Since the majority, if not all, of these things were perpetrated by blacks, how can you not focus on bad blacks? People are people regardless of color...but almost everyone trapped in New Orleans were black...so how can there be a race issue when only one race was involved? Your black mayor showed his ass didn't he? And if you had a plane or a boat or a clue as to how to get in there to save anybody, what would you have done differently than what has been done? If Bill Clinton were president would you be bitching at him? Kanye is a piece of shit who makes no difference whatsoever....your military, the ones who preserve your rights to be stupid, are the ones who are making the difference (and alot of them are white!). Say a prayer for them...for they are your best friends and your only hope to continue to be stupid and suck off of the government thumb.

In this morning's paper I read an AP story about Kanye's Comments, and I nodded in agreement. What shocked me was that the story's slant seemed to suggest that KW's comment's should have been censored-- He just 'slipped it by them.'

What the fuck?? Isn't this America?? Kanye didn't curse, didn't act a fool or threaten anyone-- All he did was speak his mind (And the truth happened to come out) but, it is supposed to be understood by white bread america that one can't criticize the president-- ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE BLACK!!!

Don't believe the hype. If Bush cared even a little, those people would have been taken care of from day one.

Much respect to Kanye. More people should follow his example. Fuck the media.

SCOTT WICHMANN FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008-HE'LL HANDLE THE SITUATION FROM DAY ONE-YEA SCOTT, YOU COULD EVACUATE UPWARDS OF 2MILLION PEOPLE FROM 2-3LEVELS OF STANDING WATER WITH DOWNED LIVE POWER LINES AND GANGS SHOOTING AT YOUR HELICOPTERS. Clean the steam from your hot air off those goggles and look at the big picture.

its the stereotypical people like U that make what Kanye did right. you might as well gone head and rewrite that the way I know U want to.
Ill pray for U two steve

Kanye was right. The Congressional Black Caucus is right.

George Bush does not care about Black people.

Or poor people. Or anyone who didn't vote for him. That's another reason why we all need to give more. We need to do for the evacuees what the federal government didn't want to do, what they were dragged into doing badly.

We need to help them. Kanye West didn't impede that, so his comments, and those of the Congressional Black Caucus, are totally justified. And correct.

And I will pray for you too, "new orleans resident". My real vent is that is that everyone wants to blame, blame, blame. There is no such thing as "an act of nature" anymore. We think that everything was caused by something, and that everything can or should be fixed by someone. If you take responsibilty for your life and your actions then the time you have to worry about why or who is actually pretty short (you keep moving forward). Free speeech aside, Kanye's remarks were inappropriate within the scope of the evednt he was participating in...in my opinion.

Wow...AWESOME JOB KANYE.

That seriously took so much guts to do that.

Steve:

You are probably the most ignorant person I have seen make a statement all night. “how can there be a race issue when only one race was involved?” Think on that one and get back to me. As far as the bulk of the rest of your nonsense, It’s based on “what if’s”, no one can predict what would have happened “if”.

your military, the ones who preserve your rights to be stupid” c’mon man don’t even try it.

God bless Kanye West for speaking the truth. America is the new South Africa - not just for black people, but for anyone of any race who lacks power or prestige or money.

...and James, before you go after the president, start with your city council, mayor, state representatives, state senators, US Representatives, and US Senators, all of whom would have more information and experience with New Orleans than the President. The logistics of this whole nightmare are not based on color...nature did what it was going to do regardless of who was there and who got out. The local response to the disaster, before it occurred and immediately after, was pitiful, and the local leaders are predominantly black. So what does that really say?

...and Bwana (tribal name I presume...) no one debates you (I have read the prior posts) because you make no sense whatsoever. And there is absolutely no way, based on what I have read on here, that I am the most ignorant person (top ten maybe, but not number 1).

steve Ure not that bright. last year even the department of homeland security warned of such an event and ran a drill or something and informed the president that new orleans could end up under water. because the levys are desighed for cat 3 hurricanes and sooner or later we'd be hit by a cat 4 or 5 and yet he did nothing. majority of the citys emergency equipment were destroyed in the hurricane. there was no communications in the city. and the funds to reinforce the levys were cut in more than half by guess who bush. so before U go and make statements with no substance like that go read something buddy

and yeah Im still gonna pray 4 U

but I do agree with one thing U said. I am in the military and I do defend the rights of the people like U that can easily put all black people in the same category. but thats why I pray for U steve

NOR...And you probably missed the engineering assessment that said that the levies could not possibly be built to withstand the worst case scenario. The money was cut...true, but a corp of engineeer expert stated on the national news (CNN and FOX) that what was proposed in the budget would not have prevented what has actually happened. The levies that gave way were not the levies that were going to be worked on. So there.....

...and I don't put all black people in the same category. Like whites and all other races, there are good and bad. I do have have parameters for what I consider good and bad, so there is subjectivity involved. I try very hard to keep an open mind and I try very hard to take advantage of the opportunities that available to me. I try very hard to accept responsibility for things that I have control over and understand the things that I don't have control over. And when an event occurs in my life, the first place I look is at myself...to determine if there was anything I could have, or should have, done differently. Then I move on from there....

Let me begin by saying that I am a 25 year old, six figure salaried tax-paying >>Niccolai Tereaie

I can't believe that so many people are living in denial: Racial Inequality?It exists! Simple/Close-minded people? They exist!

Granted this is not solely about race, however it plays a huge role in the delayed response in getting aid to that area (I understand Mother Nature didn't make it that much easier)

Although, we could have never predicted the levee breaks= flooding, the government should have stepped up at the first sign of dispair and devastation. WHAT TOOK SO LONG?????

Sure Kanye (sometimes arrogant, yet humble and nervous as he spoke from his heart Friday), could have read the teleprompter, but he chose not to... GET OVER IT... he is one of the few black rappers with more to say than "Drop it like it's Hot" As a fan of Kanye, I agree and disagree with him on his decision to do what he did, however I UNDERSTAND why he did it and I can applaud him for it.

God bless all of you and those poor EVACUEES (I prefer not to use refugee... we are in AMERICA)!

Steve-o that wasnt the worst case scenario when the hurricane hit land it was a cat 4 from 5. yeah I agree with the worst case scenario but know one has seen the worst case. but everyone in N.O. knows the city is below sea level and the only thing protecting us was the levys. and like U said he cut funding. so what chance did the city stand with half ass levys. and guess who else knew all this??

Steve:
No, it’s not tribal, incorrect as most of your assumptions. I'd say it's a 3 way tie.

I'm not sure why your age and salary are relevant, but anyway...What delayed response are we talking about? I live in a coastal community on the Atlantic Ocean and I work for local government (solid 5 figure income). Each year we go through an emergency planning drill. If a hurricane hits my area, I have been informed that the first helicopter that makes to our emergency management building will depart with me on it to inspect the area and make an initial damage assessment. Lowly me...not the frigging president of the USA! Our local EMA people will be the first responders...and that is what we plan and practice for...not the president of the USA. It seems to me that the city of New Orleans failed it's citizens before and after the storm (they are below sea level!!!) and now the president is somehow to blame? Get real...!!

Let's see...where I am living is in eminent danger of flooding each and every year if a hurricane decides to come my way. Unlike any other place in the whole country, my city is actually below sea level. I know this is not safe...one of the man-made levies could fail at any time and my city could fill up with water. Or worse, a storm could come and there could be multiple failures in the man-made levies and the city could really fill up with water. Oh not to worry...if something ever happens I'll just blame on the government for not saving me and all my stuff....

I am deeply saddened by Katrina, b/c I have strong ties to NOLA (family & friends, now homeless/unemployed).

I am a black tax-payer! Why is my Salary important? It is apparent that according to some, my TAXES aren't paying for the relief efforts---Posted by: Niccolai Tereaie at September 3, 2005 09:54 PM
I find his accusations of Bush's discern for blacks unfounded. If the president truely didn't care about black people, he wouldn't currently be planning ways to spend billions of dollars of white citizens tax money to help these people. Right now he's providing clothes, food water, and phone service to around some 2,000 homeless black people who populate New Orleans wich never had it in the first place. They are making out better than welfare and housing.--

Delayed Response? Hurricane = Monday...Federal Assistance = Friday.... Delay= 4days

Furthermore, I never blamed the President in my comment...SIMPLY.. Government, whether it be local or federal....What took so LONG?

steve Im not sayin that Bush Is the single point failure, Im listening to what U have to say. But im in the military and the way things work is commanding officer, or in this case the commander n chief is ultametly responsible, good or bad. thats the responsibility he swore in for. Its the reason he gives the state of the union speach. sure the mayor, gov, etc could have done more, but he could have done alot more. hell with one order I could find myself overseas. thats his decision to make. tha guy was living it up on vacation, should he get a vacation? hell yeah. but he knew the impending danger and he did nothing, and if none of the local officials arent taking the proper actions then he should step in its fully within his bounds.

NOR.. well put... some will never Get it!
thanks for serving our coutry :)

God Is Great...that is a very good post. It does not matter that you are a "black" taxpayer... it does matter that you are a caring person and a concerned citizen, and that you are genuinely bothered with the response to the events that have occurred. Unfortunately, Kanye West politicized it...and I disagree with him. Peace to you....

NOR...I apologize for not saying this sooner...but thank you, sincerely, for serving our country. I have experienced my father, a brother, brother-in-law, several cousins, and a son (Afghanistan 2004) serve and retain a deep respect for the military. I respect your opinion and appreciate your service.

Steve-o well at least we can agree on one thing there.(toward Ure post 4 GIG) I do disagree with where he voiced his opinions, being It was like a fundraiser., but like I said thats how everyone in the N.O. is feeling. the media has been hinting on it just a lil bit. but he went on and said it. so thinkin what live national TV station besides BET could he have said George Bush does not like black people.

I appreciate it steve, and GIG, and if U dont know I do respect your opinion. Question what part of tha gulf coast R U from??

I am on the Atlantic coast in Georgia, although I have lived in the panhandle of Florida, as well as Fort Myers and Sarasota. Dodged alot of storms over the years.....

Im stationed on the GA coast

Say no more...it is bedtime anyway. God's speed to you and stay safe!

I want to thank Kayne for lightening the mood in a dark time as we all know laughter is the best...you mean he was serious?!? Because that was some of the funniest TV I have seen in a long time!

As a Bush supporter I would also like to thank Kayne for exemplifying just how incoherent and idiotic most of his detractors are.

It may be old news to a lot of people but I thought it was a good time to bring it up again. What happened in New Orleans was a truly serious tragedy. I pray for the citizens and hope for a speedy recovery. I was curious though... If Miss Jones of Hot 97 is truly not a racist, will they make a "Hurricane song" as well? I wrote this to the Hot 97 morning crew:

Dear Miss Jones,

We're anxiously awaiting a "Hurricane Song." Prove to us you're not racist and you do not target certain ethnic groups. Will you make fun of this tragedy as you did the tsunami in Asia? Probably not considering the tsunami only affected "gooks" and "chinks." Did this one hit closer to home? Not very funny, is it?

I still think she got away with a blatant act of racism. I hope there are people that support me on this.

Also, I want to make it very, very clear that I'm not trying to take away from what happened on the Gulf Coast.

there are mix feelings about Kanye West non-scripted appearence on television, but for me, i thought it about time someone made the issue more controversial. the new york times already made light of the deal.

(read this http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/02/national/nationalspecial/02discrim.html?hp&ex=1125720000&en=9ce372bd33f25d06&ei=5094&partner=homepage)

i do agree that the blame cannot be solely on GW Bush, rather the blame goes to the federal government as a whole. what i forgot to mentioned was that Cuba was hit by a hurricane about two months ago. they were able to have an evacuation plan that was able to get 1.7 million people on short notice. its called Civil Defense not civil reaction. maybe someone in washington should look up the definition of preemptive.

re:just curious

i was discussing the same topic with one of my friends. more about how some black folks are able to make racist comments about "chinks" and "gooks" and easily get away with it. however, if an asian person, like myself, was to make anything remotely racist about black people, we would be running for our lives.

this hold pervalently true when jin the mc lost to serius jones last week. jones came flying with corny asian stereotypes, but just like all asians jin had to shallow it down. but whatever, you can read more about that matter at www.allhiphop.com

typo: swallow* it down.

since im on this. i should paste up an email i got earlier this week.

Note: Ned Sublette is the co-founder and president of Qbadisc and former host of Afro-pop worldwide and for a long time was senior producer for Afro-pop Worldwide.

how cuba does it

Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 19:58:12 -0600

This was sent to me by Ned Sublette this evening (Thursday, September 1).

i just spoke to nelson valdes, a walking encyclopedia of knowledge about

cuba, and asked him how civil defense is conducted in cuba. he ticked it

off while i listened with my left hand and typed with my right. here are

the notes i took:

* * *

less than 2 months ago, cuba was able to move 1.7 people on short notice.

the whole civil defense is embedded in the community to begin with. people

know ahead of time where they are to go.

they come to your door and knock, and tell you, evacuation is coming, then

they come and tell you, now.

if no electricity, they have runners who communicate from a headquarters to

central locations what is to be done.

the country's leaders go on TV and take charge. but not only the leaders

are speaking. the TV weatherpeople are knowledgeable. and the population

is well educated about hurricanes.

they not only evacuate. it's arranged beforehand where they will go, who

has family where. not only pickup is organized, delivery of people is

organized.

merely sticking them in a stadium is unthinkable. shelters all have medical

personnel, from the neighborhood. they have family doctors in cuba (!), who

evacuate together with the neighborhood, and already know who, for example,

needs insulin.

if they evacuate to a countryside high school -- a last resort -- they have

dormitories there.

they also have veterinarians and they evacuate animals. they begin

evacuating immediately, and also evacuate TV sets and refrigerators, so that

people aren't relucatant to leave because people might steal their stuff.

it's not throwing money at the problem. it's not financial capital, it's

social capital.

the u.s. in this sense has zero social capital.

dealing with hurricanes in cuba, as compared with how it's done in the u.s.,

is similar to the differences in how they deal with medicine. it's not

reactive; it's proactive. they act as early as possible. the u.s. doesn't
have civil defense, it has civil *reaction.*

Well lets see here, being from the south, and a white american, i see these pictures on TV with all these Blacks with like 9 jerseys on one arm, 10 hats and 8 pairs of nikes?

so all you Bush haters saying its his fault that the media is displaying blacks as being looters, what will you say to that?

also will someone find me 1 picture of a white american actually looting? and not taking bottle water or things like that, how about these GANGS that are shooting at the rescue helicopters

you black people put it on yourselves to have someone like Al Sharpton lead you and display even more racial discrimination then Bull Connors in Alabama, i think the white community as a whole see that 95% of the people that were in the superdome were black, even with the "BEGGING OF EVACUATION" from the NO mayor, then when the people get out the superdome, they go around stealing stuff, nothing like seeing national television with a walmart 100% full of African Americans, then 50 of them running out of the walmart with tv's on shoulders,

"GO KANYE?" go kanye, lol yeah right wtf has he done, i havent seen any african american workers for FEMA running around, i see them taking advantage of all the free TV's they can steal.

I would love to tell Kenye myself thank you !!! I am a white woman who thought the same way about how everything has been handled. I live in Port St Lucie which was the town effected by the two hurricanes within three weeks last year. If I remember correctly they were both Cat 4 hurricanes. Let me inform you that the VERY NEXT DAY WE HAD FEMA, NATIONAL GUARD, AND CLEAN UP BEFORE THESE PEOPLE EVEN HAD FOOD AND WATER. ITS ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY TRUE!!!!!! If this happened to white people help would of been there immediatly. And since Kenye said what he said all of a sudden these same abandon people are being placed on cruise ships. All George Bush came there for was photo op's. He may fool some of the mindless but not anyone with half a brain!!!!!

I want to add some of the people did loot unnecessarily. Some people created violence when help wasnt coming causing chaos. That is horrible and just added to the horror. However those people will get what they deserve. You always reap what you sew but that doesnt validate the CLEAR EVIDENCE PRESIDENT GEORGE W BUSH DOESNT CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think Kayne said nothing but the truth. If someone decided not to donate money because of what Kayne said, they are living in a state of denial. That reflects on the type of person they are, not the type of person Kayne shows himself to be. From what I saw, it did not seem like some of the other celebrities who want to use their air time to promote their own social interests. He looked like his conscious would not allow him not to speak the truth. He was nervous but sincere.

What Kanye West said represents alot of minorities opinions on this current situation. People who think otherwise must understand the obstacles minorities face in the USA. It just leaves me to believe that when any black man says something like this on television based on his emotions and years and years of african american blood spilled all over this country not only in defending it but also in victims of slavery he is criticized so openly. I am only stating an opionion because we as humans how do we plan to solve the worlds problems such as this with are limited knowledge. We humans are so ignorant we cannot deny it we are a plague on mother earth. We go to war and are deceive into beliveing that we are saving lives even as we destroy them. If your judging me by what i am saying don't because only god can judge me you are only flesh and meat not the all knowing god.

I am white, and personally I was offended. Although I agree that Bush's lack of responce to the tradgety was a disgrace, I would be cautious to say it is a racial issue. I think that Kayne may be the racist, making race an issue in the first place, regarding bush. However, he is absoutely right about the media portraying black people as theifs, and white people looking for food. When I read those articles I was offended by that as well. I hate bush and he is a lousy president, but i do not see any indication that he is racist, and it saddens me that anyone would play that card, when the world is working so hard to end it.

lets all please,just for once,stop taking situations and making it a black/white issue.its not a good excuse anymore . when will ppl learn that.it seems there r just ppl who want attention in this country and instead of caring about yourselves,give the attention to the ppl who really need it,the ppl who r suffering from this.ppl who by the way kanye is of all races,sice u have been living it up instead of really realizing that.oh yeah,and how many of your ppl r u taking in to your mansion?kanye has lost a huge fan in me for being ignorant,but i guess he would think its because he is black!?!

Kanye's a fucking idiot...

Why is the Mayor of New Orleans being blamed for putting 30,000+ people into a damn building that almost collapsed upon itself? Because he's black. Forget race, forget all that...the "slow" response isn't due to race...

However, it didn't help that when the gov't tried to send over supplies and relief, the damn gangs over there shot at them so they could loot longer...

Yeah it's racist that the soldiers didn't want to get shot at...

"I'm hungry, my children are cold & hungry...so I took this big screen TV" - Stranded resident of New Orleans on ABC 7 News

EDIT *Why is the Mayor of New Orleans NOT being blamed for putting 30,000+ people into a damn building that almost collapsed upon itself?*

has kanye west taken of his louis vuitton backpack and rolled up his gucci sleeves to help new orleans??? didn't think so... just another person who talks a lot of shit but doesn't ACT.

Hes just another stupid nigger like the rest of em down there shooting at helicopters and stealing big screen tv's

I think all of you that think Kanye is selfish need to sit and think for a minute. Cuz after all, Kanye IS right. George Bush does NOT care about black people. Geore doesnt care about anyone except white christians from the US. Look what hes doing in Iraq! He claims hes just tirying to help them form a govenment, but what if OUR government doesnt follow their religion. I think they should be able to form their own government without us. Oh and in Africa, they are having problems like these and theres aids and all these problems. But how many troops are there? I think Bush is an idiot. And i completely agree with him. ANd for all of you that are saying why doesnt he go help, screw you. If you were a celbrity id like to see your ass down there helping thwm in New Orleans. All he can do is donate, which he is doing. So all of you Bush kissers can kiss my ass. Way to go Kanye.

**I completely agree with Kanye.Sorry

Go J-man! Just read your post and I agree. I am house bound and watching full coverage for 6 days now on all networks. You are absolutely right. There was no delay in help, the help sent day one had no where to go, day 2 help came and got shot at, day 3 people were being moved and forces were there to start with medical treatment, day 4 more guards more order, day 5 Superdome evacuated and things starting to hum, Saturday-day 6 more rescuing of folks from their homes, Sunday the same and more family reunions. I said yesterday-the mayor of New Orleans kicking and screamin' this week, when all along he had access to every school bus in town to get people evacuated. No he chose to beg people to leave while all of those buses are now submerged. Typical. And Kanye starts the race bullshit while fundraising. I wouldn't fart in his direction if it was the last breath he needed.

blame white people, they invented hurricanes. george bush is satan. kanye west is a "revolutionist" gimme a f-ing break. it's okay to steal stereos, there's so much water. i can get out of this situation i refer to as "hellish" but i prefer to stay and bitch about the government. let's lose focus of what needs to be done so that we can all get together and "chat". i'm white...i'm black...i'm latino...i'm gonna make a point to criticize the government about racial issues but first let me state my race...not that it matters. EVERYONE GROW UP.

The poor were there before the hurricane hit. Which complainers were down there trying to help them make a difference in their lives? Stop waiting for the government to be the savior of all that ails society because it isn't going to happen! If you are black and your have the resources start a new paradigm--a new way of thinking--you make the difference don't depend on someone else to make it. Why did Oprah take her money and go to Africa? She said it was because Americans truly do have the opportunity to do better for themselves. The issue of race will never go away. There will always be white people thinking they are superior to black people. Ask any famous black person how easy their lives have been--they still forged ahead.

I find it funny/interesting that Fidel and Hugo Chavez have offered help. Sorry, not a Kanye post. Just more food for thought. Buen provecho!

i live in houston so now i have 100,000 angry black people to deal with everyday. thanks for your uplifting statements kanye. by the way, how much did your manager say you are able to donate. haven't heard that figure yet. hope it's a big one. or did your mouth write a check your (extremely wealthy) ass could'nt cash. help yourself to another low fat mocha latte while your "brothers" suck up sewage water. i'm wagering he's sittin on his ass in his mansion relishing in the fact that his lame ass comments caused such a stir. sadly that should make for an increase in his record sales. if he's so righteous why doesn't he use his personal jet to swoop in and save "his people" himself. better yet donate all the proceeds of his current album sales to the victioms of hurricane katrina. a thousand dollars says he'll more likely spend his cash on some "spinners" or some "bling" before he get's himself airlifted down to new orleans to help pass out food, water, or meds. any takers...not likely. also isn't he a rapper. he bitches about the military coming down and "shooting us" which i find ironic that he has a problem with considering his profession exemplifies gun violence. he should feel right at home. shit he hosted a party just recently where suge knight got shot. it's a good thing all those innocent hoods broke into the pawn shops and stole all the guns, now they can fend off those murderously treacherous troops who are maliciously rescuing all those defensless yet evil hurricane victims. i say shoot every piece of shit that's taking advantage of this horrible situation. each one should take a bullet right in the ass. startin with kanye for using a donation telethon to anger millions of americans. there's a time and a place. bottom line is that wasn't it. it wasn't meant to be a social forum for political debate. it was meant to ispire hope and remind people that it's time to pull together in this great time of need. that's called ignorance. i've seen people post how they thought mike meyers looked scared. well did anyone notice how chris tucker looked. i don't think at that moment he was saying in his head "way to go brother" i think he was saying "what the f*** were you thinkin". just my opinion. i read all of yours and i felt like saying my peace. if kanye can say his part then i can say mine...right. that's why i live in this country.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT WHITE/BLACK ISSUES STUPID! Kanye never said white people don't care about black people, he never said white people are leaving blacks there, or whites aren't helping get the people out; Listen to the video again or read the quotes, Kanye clearly says that BUSH (not white people) doesn't care about Blacks.

Every single thing Kanye said is completely correct, from the way the poor blacks are being portrayed on TV to his opinion on Bush. Watch the freaking news you'll hear about how Bush (or whoever the hell is in charge) is sending planes to hotels miles away from the stranded minorities to go pick up foreigners. It took 5 days before any of those people could get any food or water; Bush's priority was obviously not getting people out, it was to get the 'right' people out, meaning the foreigners who were probably no where close to the brunt of the disaster, ignoring the poor who have lost far more than those who leave miles away.

This is not a Black/White issue, this is about Bush's decision to ignore the poor, this is about how the media continues to portray these poor blacks in New orleans not as victims, but as criminals looting the stores and firing shots. These people have been stranded there for days, no food, contaminated water everywhere, they have seen people die right in front of them, mothers weeping every day, but as all this is happening they look up, and what do they see, they see planes passing over to go save people far away from them, while news helicopters trying to capture blacks in the act of crime. Just watch the news, for every white guy you see stealing from a store you'll see at least 10 black young men doing the same. This is about Bush and the media, Not about race, SO STOP CLAIMING KANYE IS A RACIST, AND OPEN YOUR EYES.

If Kanye wasn't straight, I'd stalk him. I love him for having the nuts to say that on national TV. I love what he said about hip hop being homophobic and they should just "stop it". So, if he's not given a award for this year, he's really being robbed.

Mr. West is obviously an intelligent man, although very emotional. I regard his statements as an outbreak of frustration and utter sorrow concerning the images of the destitute Louisianans. His statements have outraged a few, but for many, it has verbalized the undercurrent of disparity that has been ever present in this nation. The decision to donate concurs with a moral obligation, not with a popularity contest to induce a favor for help. Mr. West is entitled to a personal opinion, whether it is given at an appropriate time, or an opportune time. Just the same, his statement can never overshadow what the president did and did not do in the hours of such a discouraging time. The Bush administration displayed a lack of urgency and that truth, cannot be denied.

why wouldn't you want to get the tourists out first? they actually have places to go once you remove them. why waste precious food and water on them when they could be self sufficient at home. i think it was smart to get them the hell out and let them take care of themselves..... there are people who lost everything that need every bottle of water, mre, medical resource, etc...

I respect everyone opinion on this topic, but it just seems kind of weird to me, to the fact that the Bush can walk through ground zero, but didn't really come close to the people at the dome, he didn't really want to face that. I know the show was about donating, but at the same time, they really needed to say some real things, just not what was written for them, speak their minds on true emotions about how they feel about Katrina. And it kind of seem of bad timing for Kanye West to say what he said, but he said it and there's nothing anyone can do to change that. If he said it that night, he would probably say it any other day. So build and bridge and get over it! Everyone should stop looking at race, and I didn't like that comment about the person using the N word, wasn't called for, what does that do for you? It doesn't change anything, just prove other people right on your views of black people. The main concern is everyone coming to help people out, old, young, sick, healthly, rich or poor! Just help, because they need it, you think anyone out there is really caring about what color they are? They caring about if I'm going to die today, how am I going to feed my little ones. BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET OVER IT!

it is appalling that kanye west had the arrogance to say what he did about our president and government, and even more appalling that people actually support what he said. he is ignorant to talk about what is happening in louisiana and the government's response while he is not there himself. the media portrays the war in iraq and the response to the hurricane negatively, they never show what good happens, and having a military family i know that there is much good and progress the military is doing in both these areas. celebrities need to stop being ignorant and get off their pompous pedastals.

For those of you who want to try to take the blame off Bush and point it at FEMA, well hmmmm....who is the one that seriously cut FEMA's budget? Bush FEMA warned about the problem with New Orleans possibly flooding before and those warnings went ignored. You can't blame an agency that no longer has the proper means and funding to do what they were originally created to do.

big mike you're an idiot. there, i said it. have you had a personal conversation with pres. bush. have you sat down and talked to him face to face. only an ignorant person tells other people what someone is thinking. how would you like it if i said you were a racist and a bigot. that you're an evil person who is out to do the white man harm. what is it you would have done differently. it's always easy to criticize someone especially in the wake of something so tragic but how would you have reacted. are the planes supposed to land on bourbon street? where would you land them being that you're the expert. are you in new orleans or biloxi doing your part...no, then shut it. unless you're doing something about the situation you have no right to criticize. also is it bush's fault that those people are poor and just so happen to live right where the majority of the damage was done. did he personally go to each one of their houses and pluck away their money. from what i understand there were also white people that lived in new orleans. not to mention asian, latino, and many other races of people. how many people of color other than black do you hear bitchin about how there's a conspiracy out to get em. grow up. the facts are the facts. it's a tragedy that wasn't handle as well as it could have been. there's no possible way to evacuate and rescue an entire city the size of new orleans in 24 hrs. it's not as if the entire city met up at one point and location. it was way to spread out. why didn't those people leave on their own when they were warned. why did so many people stay to try to "ride it out". who knows. the fact is it happened and now we must recover. drop the bullshit moanin' about how everyones out to get "the black man". if you're a black person and you're tired of being poor, oppressed, and portrayed badly by the media then do something about it. how many times did you see a single black woman on the streets trying to fend for multiple children by herself. where're the men who made these babies. why aren't they helping out. that's one major reason why the black population gets a bad rap is because the majority of black men (mainly the youth) just hit it and quit it. if that's not true then let me know. show me stats. what does that say about the impoverished black people. there not taking care of their own. how many millionaire black celebrities are helping out with the situation in louisiana. name 10. if you speak for the rest of the black population then why are you not rallying for a new president. why don't you get off your ass and run for office.

Don't them let me get teary, the world looks dreary
but when you wipe your eyes, see it clearly
there's no need for you to fear me
if you take the time to hear me, maybe you can learn to cheer me
it aint about black or white, cuz we're human
I hope we see the light before its ruined
my ghetto gospel" Tupac Shakur
is not about race in the eyes of god but don't be so ignorant to say that is not about race in the eyes of humans. For the reason that we see and live racism everyday.

It's funny... based on the perspectives of most of the posted comments on this page, I can tell which people are black and which are non-black. No one has ALL of the facts, so no one can make a REAL observation. We are ALL getting our information from THE MEDIA. I am a person that works in the media, and I know how we depict certain things for the sake of ratings, and how RACE really is an issue! While all of your opinions, comments and judgements are right, they are also wrong at the same time... cause none of you know the actual truth... just whatever we give you. What Kanye said was based on his reality and truth, even if it was based on little information, However, you see that he chose not to follow the script at some point... keep in mind that there is a "script" people, you never know who's ideas are actually coming across to you at home. THINK.

YAY. Kanye West has proven his racism. Oh btw, I work for the military and I know that G.W. (my boss, the commander in chief) did in fact create hurricane katrina with his massive amounts of oil in order to destroy all the 'niggas' in New Orleans. Yep. He did it. But in all seriousness, you fricken "conspiracy theorist, every white guy is a racist, but not a single black person isn't" need to get a life. Stop blaming every problem in the world on Bush. Realize that all the normal (not suicidal jihadists) Iraqi citizens want us (the military) there. Trust me, I know. I've been there. I'm going back. THEY ARE GLAD WE RESCUED THEM FROM SADDAM! And as long as the looters (white and black) are severely punished, hopefully nothing like this will ever happen again no matter how big the next natural disaster is.

Kanye was right, Bush doesn't care, not only does he not care about black people, but he doesn't care about anybody who is less fortunate. I bet if New Orleans was full of rich people, he would have helped them in a heart beat. Bush knew long before the hurricane, that something needed to be done, so instead of vacationing down in Texas, while the hurricane was going on, he should have been sitting in the White House trying to come up with a plan to help Louisiana. I can't stand him. God bless America because its in the wrong hands.

I am white, and will not pretend to completely understand Mr. West's anger. However, I can definitely say I see his point of how different races are portrayed in news coverage. As someone who grew up poor, and lives in an area of relative poverty, itt made me ill to see streets packed with people of color, being left behind to starve, their only apparent act of fault being not to have been birthed in tsunami areas or Iraq, where we of course immediately dispatch funds and troops. I wish I had a home full of food and water in New Orleans, so that I could invite anyone who needed something for their children and themselves could go right in and help themselves. I also wondered about the anger of the people left behind at the Superdome and convention center, whether it was just from this unconscionable act of neglect by our government, or if this was just one more log on the fire for them. My heart just aches seeing the starving and the desperate, and my prayers are to each of them, to those who are entrusted with their care, and that all of us not in that area may put doing the right thing first and foremost. From what I know of Mr. West, he is a person of knowledge and passion and I respect what he has said, hoping that it leads to greater discussion and for true Americans to pull together. May God have mercy on us all, and I pray for His peace to unite us, as we await Him remembering promises to the meek and the poor of this earth.

For get you Ben! Minorities have all the right, to hate Bush! He does nothing for us. And what Kanye said does not make him a racist! He speaks the truth, what people like you don't like to talk about!

Hey, Sha! What do you do for yourself? Do you need someone to wipe your ass too? "He does nothing for us".Get over it!

A general question for the posters who call Kanye a racist. Why is it that when a Black guy speaks his mind he is a racist?

He didn't say one racist thing he just expressed he's view on what he was feeling, what alot of Blacks are feeling. When I hear someone label him as a racist for what he said it just lets me know where you personally stand on the race issue. Before you say it I know, I know you have black friends and George Bush has done alot for Blacks he hired both Condi and Colin. Wow 2 people out of 12 million yeah he has really done alot in regards to race.

Having said that, I'll digress on my sentiment about what Kanye said, I think if he had to do it over again he would have probably used the word "poor" instead of "blacks" when he refferred to Bush's dislikes.

- Kanye West
- Sean Carter
- Morgan Freeman
- Chris Rock
- Wynton Marsalis
- Master P.
- Russell Simmons
- Sean Combs
- Stevie Wonder
- Usher
Each one of these entertainers are involved or have donated a monumental amount of money to the Katrina effort.

Why do you feel you have to sensationalize everything, POSTED (if thats you real name). The statement I made in my last post was that Kanye was not attacking white people, he was making a statement about Bush and the media. Do I think Bush is a racist, no, do I think he made crappy choices, yes. Even you stated that its better to use our resources for the foreigners.

My point is very clear- I agree with Kanye when it comes to the fact that the Katrina disaster was handled very badly, little help was offered to the poor, and the media just loves to keep pointing out all the blacks who loot.

I am a college educated business man in my late 20's, I grew up in the suburbs of 'wouldn'tyouliketoknow', my parents never seperated, and I never stick up for anything remotely nationalistic. I hate debating race because it's always a touchy issue. Kanye West made a statement that Bush didn't care about (poor) blacks, and by the way Bush handled the situation it would sure seem that way.

So catch your breath POSTED and next time use spaces, that way people know what you're talking about.

Mayor Nagin--doin' a great job--he oughta resign with the 2/3rds of the Police Dept. of N.O. as they have already walked off the job. Goddamn pussies. They could learn about duty from the NYC cops killed at the WTC.

To the last poster it's funny that you mentioned 911 and the WTC. How soon did they get some help in NY? Bush was grand standing with a bull horn with in a day of 911 he has yet to step foot in NO fuck the flyover 5 days later be a damn leader. And no he isn't personally responsible but he the President which makes him ultimately responsible.

Do your Math, he was at WTc on day 1 and how logistically could he be in N.O. when assholes were shooting AT FEMA workers? Use your brain--American terrorists shooting at Americans!!!!!~!

FIRST of all that was Black History in the MAKING!!! Any and ALL person(s) of color that is ashamed of what Kanye said can get their skin bleached. For the rest of black America who have been watching this bullsh*t on TV, it needed to be said. What type of sh*t is it when you are looking at the news and the BLACK people are getting no help, the mayor is sending out a "desperate S.O.S.", and reporters are telling us that nothing is being done, then Bush's lame ass comes on and says everything is being done? Kanye didn't say sh*t about white people. Listen carefully, he never made it race vs. race. He said BUSH doesn't like black people. And what other answer can you draw from what has been going on. Yes people have been trying to help, people have been getting help. BUT...the areas where the blacks are the majority haven't been seeing any help...PERIOD. People are going without food, no medicine, unsanitary conditions...True, it's not only the blacks that is in this predicament, but you only speak about what you know about...and what Kanye knows about is being black so he can only talk about the black perspective...So all you half breed blacks that don't know your history shut the F*CK UP...PLEASE...do YOURSELF a favor...put it in a pipe and smoke it...you mean to tell me a white person is only looking for food and a black man is looting???...so there are some blacks looting liquor and such...they got to drown their sorrows...it is wrong but all blacks aren't doing it...now you don't send people down there to help but to shoot on sight????...where is the sense in that...get that story straight...remember that name, Ben Blush, cause I'ma make sure to get famous just so I can Lambaste the president....

Kanye was speaking the truth, some of you people are just to blind to see it, You can not tell me everytime you see a black person on the news he is not called a "looter" but everytime you see a white person they are "trying to survive", I've actually got a picture in my email from a newspaper article with a black person carrying a loaf of bread and some diapers through waist deep water and the article refers to him as a looter, but in almost an identical picture a white person is carrying what looks to also be a loaf of bread yet the article refers to him as trying to survive, while it may not be unintentional the media is making it look like the blacks are to blame for what is going on, as far as Bush not caring about Blacks, I won't comment on that, he can't be to blame for the hurricane, but how about this to chew on, according to FOXnews and the repulican party he is keeping us safe BUT what if a terrorist blew up the leevie(sp), the area would have been flooded and the response would have still taken a long time because obviously they weren't PREPARED for it, so much for homeland security.

As i read what people wrote it leaves me to believe that our fate is a lifetime of hate. People stating that race is not an issue if race was not an issue and we just catogorized ourselves as humans the word race would have never been created to differenciate black people from white people. We first must state our problems and solve them instead of ignoring them.
We got soldiers in iraq now who are deceived into believing that they are saving lives even as they destroy them. Not only our soldiers but soldiers all over the world. It seems that humanity only strength is not to unite to help but to unite to destroy. The reason i included our soldiers in this conversation is because they should be here helping our people. The troubles of the world are perpetual(lasting through eternity). Our troubles as humanity will remain perpetual unless the whole world unites under one system in which we all our govern by one god. It cannot simply be a man because man are bestowed limited knowledge. If we don't unite as a whole world natural disaters or wars will simply destroy us. Since we simply cannot unite as a whole world because of the ignorance of man those who believe in uniting as a whole world must find inner peace by bringing life to our lands and sharing it with the ones we love. Creating peace with yourself by finding a balance and harmony with the world around you is the only peace we can create because any other peace is fleeding and temporarily. Unless we unite as a whole world it we would simply have a fate of an everlasting cycle of deception, wars, and situations like katrina in which we are not able to unite to help those in need.Embrace my words an make the world change.

I COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF BEN, Jeez I LOVE THIS THREAD!

Logistically? Yes, he could have done so by sending in the military and as a veteran of the Army I know they are trained to deploy anywhere in the world within 24 hours all he had to do was give the order and yes it's that simple.

If you don't think it is a BLACK/WHITE thang, check the stats of who was there and who was poor and who had to wait in the flood waters...only a blind man would say it is not a BLACK/WHITE thing - we stand in our historic shame before the world....

bless cable networks and internet for exposing all this so clearly.

I am embrassed, not by the government or the response of any government, state local, or federal to the situation, but I am embrassed that anyone would ever suspect that decisions were made based on race. To agree or assume that the President of the United States acted slowly because the victims were poor and black is rediculous. For those of you who ignore politics on a day by day basis, refuse to pick up a newspaper or even turn on CNN or Fox for at least an hour a day, you then don't know that this president has appointed more minorities and women to government posts and cabinet level positions than any president in the past 50 years. You should do some research on the Secretary of Commerce, Carlos Gutierrez, who started working i in a Kellogs Cereal Company boxing cereal, and now is the Secretary of Commerce. EVERYONE IS MISSING A VARY IMPORTANT FACT HERE, we underestimated the power of this storm, and I agree that we UNDERESTIMATED this storm with IGNORACE, yet the only one that some of you are blaming, is the President of the United States. Look at the facts, we get hit by Hurricanes all the time, some are worse than others but they happen all the time. You cannot blame that on the president of the United States. New Orleans was a mess because of its design. Its a bowl, and traps water. So please, inform yourselves a little better before you agree with a man who according to charity reports, has never given to a single charity with the millions he makes.

Thank You

"For those of you who ignore politics on a day by day basis, refuse to pick up a newspaper or even turn on CNN or Fox for at least an hour a day, you then don't know that this president has appointed more minorities and women to government posts and cabinet level positions than any president in the past 50 years" And everytime I read or hear something like that it always reminds me when a white person says "My best friend is black", it's so that it doesn't become an issue.

DOMINGUEZ read my first post you are right on target!!! It is becoming funny.

lmao, I take it you've heard that one before then...

Im going to re-edit what Kayne said a little and lets see if it makes the point a lil more clear for thos eon this board.

George Bush doesn't care about POOR people...

Also I saw this post "I find it funny/interesting that Fidel and Hugo Chavez have offered help. Sorry, not a Kanye post. Just more food for thought. Buen provecho!

Posted by: Anon Ymous at September 4, 2005 03:39 PM"

Ladies and Gents... that scares me to death.

Kayne..put your money where your mouth is instead of in your crib homeboy. None of you big time gansters give a hoot about the people who buy your crappy music.

Why not blame the Gov. Blanco and the Mayor of New Orleans?

Gov. Blanco was in way over her head and the Mayor was busy sending his friends to the front of the line at the dome. This is nothing but Democrats trying to prepare for the next election that they will lose again anyway because they do not get it yet.

Because they didn't cut the budget to fix the levees

Notice how the poor 'black' people were attacking the white tourists.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/4208792.stm

""He said of his eventual Superdome refuge: "There was a lot of heat from the people in there, people shouting racial abuse about us being white.""

Here is from an Austrialian tourist.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,16473521^663,00.html

""Mr McNeil's father, Peter, said his son was with about 60 other foreign tourists who had fled the Superdome.

"They couldn't stay another night, the situation was so bad," he said.

"People were just staring at them and making suggestions that they were going to kill them."

John's sister Susie said he saw shocking acts of violence amid fierce racial tension in the Superdome.

"It's turned into a black against white thing," she said. "My brother has witnessed murders, stabbings, rapes . . . it's like a Third World country." ""

Eso es que todo el tiempo que yo digo. No moives en una cuidad que tiene mucho mayetes pobres...lol

It's sad that black racists starting attacking people.

No I am not white.

I just saw the clip. However, in a way I can't help but laugh. But not in a way that the whole thing is funny but in a "What the Hell" type way. Kayne put out there what was in his heart. That's how he felt. Maybe it wasn't the time and place for that or maybe it was. Kayne took a stand. Now what are the democrats going to do! What are the black people going to do?
I also what to address a post by John Albrecht. John let me tell you something. In reference to your comment on the looting. I see your point but, but just like they needed food, people needed clothes too! I saw a picture of a person that had cardboard and rubberbands for shoes. So what they looted some clothes too! Secondly the couple that had bread. The bread get's wet! So what are they going to with wet bread? I also saw people with beer in the trunk and I wondered about that. That didn't make sense. I also heard someone looted a TV. What the heck you gonna do with a TV? Beer and TV's aren't essentials. However, I can understand clothes and shoes!

Kanye has a platform. For him to use it to speak what needed to be said is commendable. It was easy to tell that he was very emotional. Who wouldn't be? If you watched the images coming from Nola, you would be the same way, if you have any heart and empathy whatsoever. Try and say that if Beverly Hills was flooded they would have done the same. Na, Kanye's right in his assessment. Too bad so many people can't accept it.

People like Kanye West keep racial hatred alive.

The People at NBC should've researched his cds and music first.

Kanye West blames the USA for AIDs in Africa and says that the CIA is shipping in Cocaine into the Ghetto.

...yet he never talks about "responsibility" of safe sex, condom use or that famous Hip Hop artists, like 50 Cent, were SELLING those drugs to his own people.

A lot of people make excuses for thugs and then when things start to break down they are the first ones to blame everyone else but those who are committing the crimes.

If the CIA was bringing in drugs why was 50 Cent selling them to his own people and other gang bangers?

People like Kanye West puts the blame on everyone else, except where the blame belongs, on those African American leaders who have not condemed those who do wrong in their own community.

The only people left in N.O. are crack heads who don't want to give up their prime selling turf and do not seem to understand that they are no longer dealing with the local police. There are now some bad mother@$@#ing swat teams in town. Five of the brothers met them today. Two are dead and the rest wounded. This aint no game player. You dig yo.

stop playing the race card. if a category 5 hurricane is heading for your city, GET THE FUCK OUT!

no way out?? GO TO A FUCKING SHELTER!

LOOT FOR FOOD AND WATER! NOT 10 BOXES OF NIKE SHOES AND TUXEDOS! THAT IS UNNECESSARY AND COMPLETELY STUPID AND TYPICAL BEHAVIOR FOR THESE PEOPLE.

Shooting at rescue helicopters, policemen, firemen, hospital workers, raping children. There is NO excuse for the animal-like behavior.
The poor black people of New Orleans need to stop being lazy and blaming every problem and inconvenience on the white man.
GET UP AND WORK FOR YOURSELF.
THEY HAD EVERY CHANCE AND OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT.

100% TERRIBLE BEHAVIOR.
Kanye West should be shot for trying to stir up trouble. It was a live television fundraiser and of course he needs to bash the president and pull out the race card.
There were MANY, MANY white people stranded in New Orleans. WHAT ABOUT THEM??? People being poor and black had NOTHING to do with how quick help arrived. NOTHING.

STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR YOURSELVES.
STOP LOOTING FOR ITEMS THAT YOU DO NOT NEED TO SURVIVE! STOP SHOOTING RESCUERS!
STOP SHOOTING HOSPITAL WORKERS!

Beau said ""Try and say that if Beverly Hills was flooded they would have done the same. Na, Kanye's right in his assessment. Too bad so many people can't accept it.""

Too bad you can't accept that low lifes would not be there raping...lol

I bet things would be different alright. People wouldn't be actin' a fool.

WAKE UP AMERICA! REALITY CHECK!
LOOK HOW THE BLACK PEOPLE IN NEW ORLEANS ARE ACTING. LET THEIR ACTIONS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. REALITY CHECK! NOTHING MORE TO SAY!

Kanye West, instead of telling African Americans to listen to the National Guard and local authorities he goes on a rant "They is shooting at us"

No they are shooting at people who are shooting at rescue workers.

The "Blame game" is on. Just like those people in the Superdome blaming "da white folks" for them not heeding the warning and leaving.

hey MYSELF...

even we Latinos know that one...only those people who been brainwashed AND WHO DON'T LIVE around that don't get it...lol

...then they blame everyone else...lol

lookey lookey here. now, da poe boy didnt mean watt he say. he should just shuffle in da kitchen and git to dem dishes.

Do you think Kanye West moved into a poor area after he became successful and rich.

NO.

He is a hypocrite. He lives in a very wealthy area full up with white folk. He wear expensive shades and has a clothing line with a FREAKIN' CREST on them, like rich white folk.

he is worse then 'those horrible white folk'. He is just like those people like Condi/Colin they cry about.

I bet he don't live in the ghetto no more.

What the hell are you talking about Sanchez...

who ever thinks Kanye was wrong can go to hell, i hate it when people like you wanna stick and help hide the fact that Bush doesnt like black people, you all know damn well thats what it is, just admit it, all this undercover racism is gettin stupid and annoying, it is the fuckin race card you retards, dumb fuckin racists, you wanna act like it isnt race, you fuckers are pathetic, blind and have your noses in bushes ass

100% THE TRUTH
ADMIT IT YOU BUSH ASS KISSERS HE'S DOESNT CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE, and before you think im black let me tell you im white, this id for you ignorant ass white people

When my parents first got to this country we moved into a poor black area. The people there didn't do anything but bitch, moan and complain.

Most the men never worked a day in their lives.

People like Kanye West blame everyone else, but never look at how their own community is doing.

The reason their is so many Latinos in this country is because they are doing the work that most people in ghettos won't do.

My brothers and sisters all went to school and kids from the ghetto barely went to school and got into fights with the teachers. They didn't want to learn, because people like Kanye West and other leaders of the African American community, want to blame everyone else, but themselves for their own problems.

That is why when we got enough money working hard...we GOT THE HELL OUT OF THE GHETTO.

All you cry baby liberals should MOVE INTO THE POOREST AREAS OF OAKLAND, SOUTH CENTRAL, DETROIT AND FIX THEM FROM WITHIN...but you just give lip service and move into rich WHITE areas with Republicans you hate...Well here is the challenge...YOU GO LIVE IN THE GHETTO, BUY A HOUSE THERE and send your children to the schools and there would be no racial predujice(like you claim)instead you would be robbed, raped and pistoled whipped.

I have been there...you haven't.

Well then NUNYA get your ass to the ghetto...and live there...lol

see how much you loooove it there.lol

...and I AIN'T WHITE EITHER.

West is an idiot. He opens his mouth and his race takes 20 steps backwards. I had to watch it again to believe it. What an embaressment, I think I even saw his mamma, the woman on the syrup bottle, shaking her head. I had never heard of him, and I suppose it won't be long til he is completely forgotten. Hope you've enjoyed your fifteen minutes of shame.

fat,dumb,drunk and black is no way to go thru life bro.

Hey Nunya...get your ass to the ghetto and start helping.

lol...move there.

Whuddup bro...lol

I've been there...and don't wanna go back.

You can have it.

"Ignorant, ass white people." Nice! You don't sound ignorant at all with that last post.

As long as people like you exist there will never be racial harmony.

Kanye is entitled to his opinion, but saying Bush doesn't care about black Americans based on the disaster response in N.O. allows his educated-ignorance to shine through in Living Color.

They gave Bush crap for not landing at the Superdome. But then again neither did Clinton or Gore. Boy they missed a great opportunity. (Bill may have even gotten a little trim there like some of those thugs.)

wasn't Gov. Blanco fighting intervention and federal marshal law?

You have to love Geraldo Rivera. What an ass. One of the Guard should cap that mo fo and shove that camera up his ass.

Sanchez you don't even realize that your people are going through the same things blacks have and are still going through. Aint no blame game going on history is all the proof we need.

There is no one taking up for the few idiots that were acting uncivilized but since you aren't there all you can rely on is the media and there portrayal of what's going on in New Orleans which is the exact point Kanye was making, it was unbalanced. To say get the F*** out is very insensitive. There were old people, handicpped people and people who didn't have the resources to just get up and leave. Stop making dumb comments.

Man do a little research before you make ignorant comments. New Orleans is only a microcosm of America's priorities. This is a chance for an intelligent dialogue to take place and you have reduced it to stereotypes that you have received from tv or the few blacks that you may live around which in no way represent the majority of my people.

Here is what the CRAZY Mayor of New Orleans said.

“Today was a turning point, I think,” he said. “My philosophy is never get too high, never get too low. ... I always try to keep my emotions in check and yesterday I kind of went off a little bit. I was worried about that, but it maybe worked out. I don’t know. If the CIA slips me something and next week you don’t see me, you’ll all know what happened.”

Yet his leadership was lacking.

Maybe it's the same CIA that 50 Cents(the hiphop rapper) got his drugs to sell before he became a rapper...lol

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SANCHEZ!

Rivera has nothing to do with Kanye, you have managed to take the statement 'Bush doesn't care about Black people' and twist it so you can comment on why you hate black people.

Grow up.

Definition of Martial Law:
n. a system of complete control by a country's military over all activities, including civilian, in a theoretical or actual war zone, or during a period of emergency caused by a disaster such as an earthquake or flood, with the military commander having dictatorial powers. In the United States martial law must be ordered by the President as commander-in-chief and must be limited to the duration of the warfare or emergency. It cannot result in a long-term denial of constitutional rights, such as habeas corpus, the right to a trial, and to free press. Martial law was ordered in contested areas during the Civil War (but the Supreme Court ruled President Abraham Lincoln's suspension of the writ of habeas corpus was unconstitutional), and during the San Francisco earthquake and fire in 1906 when the city was in ruins, tens of thousands were homeless, and looting and disease posed great dangers to the public.

Hmmmm....this all sounds a little like what happen in 1906. I wonder if you would rape, murder and steal if you were looking down the business end of Close Assult Weapon lock and loaded.

Merriweather...our people are hardly going through the same.

Like Pres. Fox of Mexico said "Latinos are doing the jobs that most Black people don't want to do".

He said what most of us Latinos already know. Instead people like you Merriweather try to blame others for YOUR OWN MAKING...you can go to school here and make it...IF YOU WANT TOO.

But thugs, which the African American leaders refuse to curtail, are the ones who have made the poor areas the shit holes they are...not some white guy living in Suburbia.

Most Latinos and Asians, even some black people, I know have told me that.

You can't have a small store in the ghetto without getting killed. You can't have a nice car in the ghetto without it getting stolen. You can't have nice things in your house without someone trying to break in and steal them...damn you can't even have plants outside without them being stolen. You can't go out at night because gangstas intimidating you.

It ain't the white guy in Suburbia who is doing that...IT'S THE THUGS/GANGSTAS IN THE HOOD DOING THAT.

Eat shit BigMike.

This ain't about Bush...this is about people like Kanye West blaming everyone else, but the leaders of his own community.

Hey BIGPIECE OF SHIT MIKE...go buy a house in Detriot, South Central L.A., or Downtown Oakland if you want to "fix things".

My syrup bottle comment was uncalled for. It brought me to West's level. I apologize. It's upsetting that so many are trying to help. So many are giving money, time, talent, effort. When it's time for all of us to step up, to join, to work, we're quickly reminded that one man can wipe out a bunch of goodwill with ignorant commentary. Did he not understand this was a fundraising effort, and not his personal time to offer misguided opionions.

Oh hodja has found religion. Why dont you just join the ranks of the bloody liberals at CNN. You stupid ass, when there are blacks involved it is always about race. This has to be about race too. The democrats will make sure of that using their spokemen Jessie.

Yes I know I am a dumb ass.

Forgive me.

Hahahahaha, you're too funny sanchez.

Listen, no matter what you think you've been through in life, I've seen it too. You say you're a foreigner and you lived in the ghetto for a time, I have done the same.

But you're not talking about kanye, bush, or Katrina; you're talking about your opinion on poor blacks (and so is MYSELF). If you want to exchange dialog with me or anyone else on this board about BLACK PEOPLE, then state it, don't sugar coat it, say that you have a problem with blacks in the american society, and then we can talk.

Until then shut your mouth, because you're WAY off topic.

Hey, there's only one Bigmike on this board, and thats me.

lol...listen next time when you get a Latino/Asian friend talking and calming blame black people...watch their face and in a little while if they really beleive what your saying...they will tell you.

trust me...lol

That is if you have any Latino or Asian friends.

You would be surprised at how many Latinos and Asians think are more prejudice then you think...lol

Oh I see there is another Sanchez.

Y que cosa es esto...lol

SANCHEZ, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SAYING, SPEAK ENGLISH!!!

Well Merriweather...that is not me.

Well I guess I am outta here...lol

There will be more Sanchez' anyway...lol

Hey mike, I really dont have a problem with black people (when they are not sticking their dick in a forteen year old, or stealing from me or shooting at a copter trying to save my sorry ass). I live on the coast in a major city as well and if something like this happens there I hope things are a little different, but I have my doubt that it will be. We have a large drug population and "poor" people as well. It is scary to think that no one will speak for the policeman and firemen who turned in their badges in N.O. because some crackheads with guns went wild.

GREAT finally a black musician advocating black rights. Being a musician enrolled at Berklee College of Music I am proud of Kanye. Music, over the ages, has exploited civil rights struggels ( i.e. bob marley, bob dylan) WE HAVE NOT SEEN ENOUGH OF THIS LATLEY. ......I am going to buy an album that i would not have purchased before....**god bless you kanye**

Well thank you my brother. I did this so's mo peeps would buy my sheet. 'Specially da dumb white peeps.

Sanchez or who ever is doing it please stop using my name when you post that's juvenile. BigMike don't worry about those clowns.

someone pretending to be Kanye...effective

Hey Garvin - stick your guitar up you ass and get real. This is not a race issue you fool. If ten thousand whites had been living there when the flood started the result would have been the same.

Hey "sanchez" save youre right wing propaganda for a GOP blog, no one gives a shit that you and our administration is in complete denial. ....(were the results after 9.11 the same?? F off)

I mean I dont know why the blacks decided to live beside a huge levee instead of on higher ground like the whites in the city.(hmmm)

Youre not even making an a valid argument you jackass, do you think the concept of a levee is new? most of the netherlands is undersea level protected by levees, gee those people are white arnt they? they must have some black in them right? keep preaching your white power

PS whoever is posting under "kanye west" is part of problem & reason this blog was started in the first place

Okay, finally, now I can see where you're coming from. Sanchez, don't pretend your race is not involved in the workings of the ghetto. Don't pretend the latino people (in general)have more jobs and do less crime than their black comrades. Unless you're one of the many illegal Mexicans who do the landscaping and other dirty labor and get paid $5 an hour, living of $20,000 a year, you have no right to say latino's do jobs blacks don't want.

Yeah you and I know that many blacks in the ghetto wield guns, look down on and beat their women, deal drugs, join gangs, and drop out of school at a very young age. And so do the latino's who live in that same environment, and so do the whites that live in that same environment...

Seriously, it has been hoot on this board. It was just a big nasty hurricane and flood, nothing more. No great master plan to screw the great black population of N. O. Anybody who thinks otherwise is trying to play politics.

Got to go.

(peep,peep)

EXACTLY, THATS WHAT I AND KEVIN AND A HOST OF OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO SAY ALL DAY, THIS IS NOT A FREAKIN RACE ISSUE, THIS IS BUSH IGNORING POOR BLACKS, THIS IS NOT WHITE vs. BLACK, THIS IS KANYE vs. BUSH'S POLITICS, SIMPLE.

sanchez u wish u were dating a black women fool

I absolutely agree with Kanye West. Not only did he speak his mind, he stood up for the people that are to afraid to be honest. Bush tolerates black people, because he has to, not because he likes to. His actions speak louder than his words. Yes, white people are suffering also, but when I watch the news the amount of black people invovled in this horrific hurricaine are mostly black. America has treated black people as though we have been less than dirt for ever. And now the Big Secret is Exposed! The way white people have been treating black people for many years and trying to keep hush, hush it's obivious to the people that weren't aware and to many other countries. If these places that were hit so hard were full of rich white people stranded on the highways because the hurricaine came faster than expected, those people would've been rescued so fast. Bush's reactions would've been totally different. These are my people drowning, starving, and suffering. Kanye, me, and many others have the right to be highly pissed off.
America needs to wake up,

I’m sorry for not feeling as much sorrow as all of you but how many days notice does one need to pack up and get out of town when they know a storm is a brewing? These people have lived through hurricanes before, they know what damage they can do. The NOAA has been reporting this as a CAT 4 storm for a long time. Also, since when does a natural disaster make it acceptable for people to loot, rape and shoot at the police? Furthermore, what kind of a society is made up of people that have to rely on their government to save them? What ever happened to grabbing your stuff and heading north out of the disaster zone and onto higher ground? Why did people report about the rapes that were happening openly instead of banding together and standing up for the weak? Why couldn’t two big dudes and a ball bat stand up for a women’s innocence? It was equally interesting to watch a celebrity rapper publicly display his ignorance and insult our president on national TV. Save your money Kayne and really show the world what your made of. It’s easy for you to open your wallet. Do something really impressive! Here’s a suggestion- Get in your private jet, fly down to ground zero and roll up your sleeves. Serve the homeless some of the food you packed in your jet and help them board a bus to your house so they can camp out there. Sounds like a helpful plan to me? So much emotion is misdirected by him yet he is hailed as a king for his brave actions. Do you really believe that Bush got up last Wednesday and said to himself, “I think I will save the blacks today?” Wake up people! New Orleans isn’t just made up of blacks. There are whites, Asians, Hispanics, rich, poor, young and old living there but you claim that its just the people of color that are being neglected? C’mon! Do you really believe this??? Let me give you some advice folks. The government isn’t here to solve all it’s peoples problems, it never was. Nor is it here to bail us out when we meet personal hardships or strife. It doesn’t matter what color you are, it works the same for us all. Unfortunately, the government has become very giving to people of color. So much so that it’s generosity has given birth to a society that constantly has their hand out and is asking “What are you going to do for me?” Katrina gave you a perfect opportunity to show the world what the people of New Orleans are made of and you blotched it up by throwing up your hands. If half of the people that were shown huddled together on TV got together and asked the police “What can I do to help?” They would probably be pumping water out by now! Stop playing the victim! I truly hope I live a life long enough to see the day when black people wake up and realize that whites are not out to get them or push them down. Take responsibility for your actions or lack of action. Respect the police and the laws that protect all people, not just whites. Trust me! If you do these two simple things, you will be on the road to self-sufficiency.

The BIG SECRET IS OUT and EXPOSED TO THE WHOLE WORLD how AMERICA TREAT our OWN PEOPLE how Control is the main issue and it's always been since the start of time ( Indians with bow n arrows or White Americans with shotguns) WHO GAINS CONTROL?THE GUNS!! FLIP side put the guns downs hands up and settle for power and see what happens.God does everthing for a reason Now is the time for African American people to step up and demand equal rights even if our LIFE is depending on it ( Dr.Martin L. King Jr., Malcolm X,Pres. J.F.K and many ohters for standing up for what they believe in.People need help 7 days later dying due to the lack of CONTROL BY our Government

Very good points JW, but remember all we see when we watch the news are poor black people. I'm sure there are many other people of varying races and varying income levels there but all we see are the poor blacks, and we see the same faces day after day.

Whether you agree with Kanye or not, whether you think those poor blacks should have left before the storm hit, or should have stopped complaining and assisted the police, there is one thing you can not deny, and that is the fact that because these people were poor they were left for later, and were not top priority.

That was what Kanye was trying to get across, he was saying Bush didn't care enough about the poor blacks to focus on them first. Even though these blacks were the hardest hit by the hurricane, they were the last to get rescued because apparently they aren't really worth the extra resources.

Kanye never made a racist statement, but like we can all see on this board that is what it has become, a racial issue.

why don't you guys stop your bitchin and do something constructive in order to help the people in n.o. and biloxi. black?white who gives a shit. shut up and do something. we could use alot more able bodied people down here at the astrodome in houston. i'll tell you what i'm a white guy and i've seen plenty of shit this past week. the last thing on most of these people's minds is whether race is playing an issue right now. they're way more concerned about how the hell their gonna piece together what's left of their miserable lives. drop the racial bullshit and rise above. kanye west's comments didn't do a damn thing to help the people down here so what good was it. all he did was stir anger and give all you jackasses something to argue about. get off your computers and do something. you people make me sick. all of you who use this as a forum to complain about social issues that you're in no way playing a role to improve need to take a step into the next room and look at the loser in the mirror.

Wow. This discussion only further digresses us as a Nation. Kanye freakin' West. Who the hell is he? He says W doesn't care about black people, and you all stand behind him and shout your cries of ignorance. Shame on your ISP's for allowing you to have access to the internet where you spread your ignorance to the world so easily.

First Off, it takes nothing to get on national tv and bash the president of the US. West is no saint or Martin Luther or Malcom. West just proved once more how ignorant the rap community is. He has shootings at his MTV party and then says the goverment is trying to kill his people. Huh? The people devestated by the hurricane will be taken care of and in no way miss treated, unless they themselves mistreat the goodness they are GIVEN. Being rescued from a disaster is not a right, its a luxery. Yes black people are the majority of people being rescued, but those are the majority of people that stayed. Most of the ones that stayed are poor. Thats not profiling, thats just the way it is in New Orleans. In reguards to defending themselves, if I was someone trying to rescue another person and they were shooting at me, I would have defended myself as well. Race is not an issue when it comes to theft or violence. This proves West and his co-horts will stoop to anything to make money.

kanye is write.bush is a racist.if it was a white majority,national guards would be there in two hours.the media is also making black people look bad by showing terrible black pictures."they show white people looking for food and black people looting"

Kanye West is a hero.

For all you people that have the nerve to make excuses, you are the problem. Open up your eyes, look around everybody, most of the people that couldn't leave had no money, yes lots of people leave pay check to pay check, who can survive off of $8000 a year. So when you wonder why people stayed, think about that. If the government really cared, they would've had a plan to evacuate poor people.
Look Kanye West didn't do anything wrong, the people who are wrong are you people saying he made this a racial issue, its been a racial issue. There are babies dying and suffering. These people need to be helped and it has taken to long.
I don't know about your ancestors, but mine were hung by there throats from trees, because they were smart. My ancestors were beaten to death and sprayed with fire truck water holes for no reason. The people who have caused this pain on my people had children, who then had children, and so on. This explains why many people are so ignorate to the truth of racism still excisting.

The person who made this comment "Welfare has been taking care of most of these people for a long while, when do they give back? " has to be the dumbest fuck on the face of the planet. Further more if you really think it's not a race issues or economic issue you are equally as dumb when they had the tsunami we where the first in line. But an all black country was also hit but you didn't here much about that on the news though did you. Kanye West is my new hero. Ever one who thinks he is selfish, and ignorant should be burned alive.

I believe that Kanye West cut through all the crap when he spoke about Bush. If you would just go back in history and read a book or two, you can find evidence of the government's ill treatment to minorities. Racism and hatred has existed in this country since the Pilgrams first landed here(or did you forget). It is time for minorities(included discriminated white people) to rise up again like the panthers did in the 70's. Im not saying fight hate with hate or even being extreem; fight with the love of Jesus Christ and knowledge. If we would only read about past people and situations. Go Kanye West; I understand the message you are tring to send.

To say that the government was slow to respond because the victims were black is RIDICULOUS. The government was slow to respond--yes I completely agree; it is unacceptable. It is tragic and I'm praying for those people affected, but to say that the government responded slowly because they were black is ridiculous. White people live in New Orleans too. Just an ignorant comment. Our government is stupid and slow to act, yes. But not because the victims were black.

Kanye West spoke the damn truth! And most of yall talking bout him cuz yall don't want to hear it. Talkn about he's uneducated and selfish, but the same thing is for half of yall dummies who trying to SOUND educated. I will be the first to say I am not African American, I am American I am not black I am American and if the media continued to show me as a refuge looting all over town. I would be mad as hell too. Yall tryn to defend Bush who goes on t.v. and holds a black or white families hand long enough for the press to get it on tape. Read the damn articles, they claim some white people finding food in the grocery stores but the blacks are just stealing. Thanks to Kanye West, he took a risk and spoke for all the americans in the south, and since the media keeps displaying racial percentages on the screen he spoke for the "67%" majority of blacks by saying Bush doesn't care about black people. Since as we see most of the people down there are black. There is no Black vs. White thing! Kanye spoke the truth! Most of yall proclaiming yall racism by talking bout they on welfare and blah blah, I say Kanye for president! look at the facts 9-11 vs. Hurricane Katrina, look at the timing of the response to each sitution and yall can come back, apologizing. Cuz I know one thing, If you think racism is Over, think agaain!

This is for the comment made by "Get A Clue", what the hell are you talking about, saying that Kanye west is ignorant and trying to make money. The comment that you made shows everyone else that you are cold hearted and have no f****** idea what you are talking about. And what the hell do you mean by being rescued is a luxery not a right. If you were poor and had no where to go when a storm is coming and the only option is to try to ride it out. And lets say you survive, but... everything is flooded, the water is rising, you have to go to the actic, you want to be save, but hold up, help is not coming. What the hell is going through your mind. All the damn technology and what ever you want to call it we got in the USA. It's taking day's for them to come rescue you. Don't forget now, your in the actic, how long do you think you can breath in there, be without water, food, and etc. Now I'm willing to bet the thousands died waiting on the help in there actic, I mean, just think about it, they have no air, nothing. And another thing, I don't know who thinks this, but there is now way in the world you can call what they are doing looting. I doesnt matter what they get shoes, clothes, jewelerey, you name it, its not looting. You have to put yourself in their position. Listen, Your really poor, have no money nothing, no hope. Now what most of them were thinking is, "I need me some clothes and shoes" think about it, there walking through slime, god damn there walking through the damn sewer. Which one of yall are not going to want a fresh set of clothes and shoes when yall get out. Now lets talk about the other stuff, tv, etc. Most people are just getting the stuff they lost, I mean, there poor so what most of them are going to be thinking is, no let me correct myself, all poor, poor, black people think like this, PAWN SHOP. Now whats running through there mind is, where ever they end up there will always be a pawn shop and pawn shop means money. Everybody knows you cant do anything with out money. And if you still dont agree with me then lets say they dont get the stuff, where is it going to be, UNDER WATER. Non of the stuff will be any good. So you think about it. Thats all I have to say right now.

HOW IGNORANT HE JUST SHOWED HIS IGNORANCE TO THE WORLD I HOPE HE DOESN'T SELL ONE SINGLE RECORD, HE MADE ALL AMERICANS LOOK BAD WITH THAT.

Why did they put that "loose cannon" Kayne on this benefit show? Is that all they could get. Poor choice, obviously...but it was amusing.

After what Kanye said, makes me wish I could get a refund on my donation.

I was with my dad today, and he found soemthing VERY important. As it turns out, new orleans has been asking the government for stuff they need in case of hurrican disasters. But bush denied them and used the money that could have been for New orleans and sent it to Iraq.Yeah,bush is SUCH a great president. FUCK BUSH. Hes an IDIOT.Kanye would be a better president than him, and hes never been a politician. So Bush lovers, KISS IT

Well, I was reading some of the comments further up the page and it was talking about racism. If you asked me, I'll say Bush doesn't care about black people. And its not just black people either, you got Muslims to. Now, in my opinion, if you got a man that is evil enough to bomb innocent people in Iraq, looking for one person, then there is no limit to what kind of hate he could have for any kind of people. And plus, this is for all the people who have common sense. If you think about it, the USA is set up to put the black male at the bottom of the chain. Now I'm not saying thats a reason for them to be sorry ass nigrohs. Note:(I am Black). But the system is desinged to make it extremly hard for them to get on top. Think about it, they it to where its hard for a black male to even get custody of his child. But lets go in to the past. Blacks were brought to this land as slaves and the true RED NECKs (G.W.Bush) intend to try to keep it that way. What we got here is a different kind of slavery, we have to have the white mans stamp of completion (High School Diploma) to do anything. Maybe on some cases you don't have to but still it is still a system full of obstacles. Now Im not saying that school is dosent educate you because it does indeed. But now a days they are adding so much unnecessary things in it. Now they got the so called AP program (Advanced Placement). Hey, its a good program to get you started for college, note:most people in it are girls. See what the AP program is, is a program set up to created different kind of women, the kind that thinks they know everything because they were in AP. If you were in a AP program you would probably think you know everything to. Now right about now your thinking what does this have to do with the subject, well think about it. These women are going to need man, wether they be black, white, etc. They're going to need man period. And the man are going to have to put up with there, I know it all problem. This is another thing to put the blacks down. I can go on and on and expound on this, but Im not, why, because I'm sleepy. This comment is just to let people no that it is not impossible for Kanye West comment about the President to be true. Peace out

Why would you want to get a refound, despite the fact of what he said people still need each and every last one of our help. How fucking dumb can you be jeff.

I totally agree with fil, even though im not black, or anything. I am 100% white and im christian..but i still hate bush.God all of you who are like "FUck kanye hes ignorant and blah fucking blah"need to shut the fuck up. Id like to see you do that on TV. kanyes right and hes brave. so u that do not support kanye west need to stop complainin. k?THANKS

television==teacher

i love freudian slips

I personally believe either way whether it motivated u to donate or not your still letting his comment influence you and who are you really punishing when you don’t donate because of his comment innocent people who are VICTIMS of something horrible.... I do believe that there are things people could have done differently but can you really blame anyone who would have known something like this would ever happen in AMERICA...u only hear about this in different places of the world never here so excuse the government, the people for not knowing what to do but at the same time don’t take advantage of the situation and begin to loot for frivols things that are not essentials. One more thing since when does a storm choose the race, the ethnicity of those who its going to affect so don’t play the race card because Whites, Hispanics, Asians, and African Americans were affected were all in the same boat and instead of pointing fingers we should be putting our sleeves up and going out there to volunteer because there will be time to discuss the problems and were AMERICA went wrong now we need to worry about those who need our help NOW!

Well, for starters, it is not Just President Bush’s fault even though he cut the funding making those things to be able to withstand a hurricane stronger than a category three. The Mayor of New Orleans did not fight enough against Mr. George Bush in the Supreme Court for funding. Besides, the majority of so-called Christians, Republicans, and the rich are without a doubt racist against Blacks. I should know one of my Grandfathers is a so-called Christian and one of my aunts is a Democrat at heart but her husband is a major Republican who has in my opinion, brainwashed her into being a Republican and he is the racist here.

continue ....what's this bush knew about the storm and choose to do nothign...whatever common he is not that smart, he is not a meteorologist to know where the storm would hit even the freaking meteorologist were dumbfounded to what the strom was doing so common....

here it is again-once again poitics and race come between human tragedy and the will of the people to overcome the worst disaster in many years. Kanye West is not the answer-he is another problem! has he ever been through a hurricane or flood and realized what it takes to remedy an overwhelming problem. probably NO! grow up on the gulf coast and you will know what it is i'm saying. what gives him the credentials to speak on behalf of the american public and criticize the aid that many are giving. how do you get enough aid to a city the size of new orleans when the only means (the highway systems) are under ten feet of water. do you think the government is going to drive an aircraft carrier down bourbon street. in the end the mass majority of people of new orleans did what they had to do to survive. the only regret is that once again a few tarnish the image of the whole. contrary to what Mr. West says, the "man" is not in new orleans only to shoot the black man. those who are raping, shooting, etc... well-maybe they deserve what they get. at a time like this they are doing anything but helping their brother and kanye west is doing nothing to offer a positive message to the people who need it the most. does he offer solutions-NO. does he have a solution-NO! what he does have is an uneducated, misguided view of this tragedy and no solution. so what does he do-bring in politics and race at a time when neither one should matter. Do something Kanye-go to new orleans and help some people. go rebuild the houses when the waters recede. give some people a job because they are going to need them. do something positive except run your big mouth. wait a minute-that's what you do for a living and many people are dumb enough to provide you with that oppourtunity. what a world we live in. I've been through these hurricanes, floods, etc.. kanye west doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. pray for these people and give until it hurts. they will need it-god bless

Freedom of Speech works for everyone. You have to love this country. I'm sure everyone who posted has lived through a president they didn't like. I respect what Kanye said. The commander in cheif is using our resources to stifle the oil competition. His family is in the oil business so why not liberate Iraq. You can't do business with a man who tried to kill your father. People do business with people they like. He has had his back turned against the US for years now. And where in the world is our vice president

I don't think Kayne did anything wrong. Because it is obvious in the United States that blacks are consider low class. When the Septemeber 11, the government moved so quickly because the people were pre-dominated white and they help so fast and started prayer all over. I do not see anyone doing that for the Katrina victims. Why would you arrest or shoot someone for looking for food or shoes this doesn't make any sense. Why shoot the looters they can't do anything with it the business owners have insurance. I think Bush could and should do more for these victims but God sits high and look low and Bush time will come soon. He is the most hated president in history.

You know, if I had a boat Id float my ass to new orleans if I had a plane Id fly. if my car had brake lights and I didnt have to work tomorrow Id drive. lemme ask yall this? did you wacth the same news I did? did you see all the black folks dying? the babys, the elders? if you did ? how could you not be made as hell! at first i was sad, i cryed i got my donation to gether i started a drive in my hood. then i kept wacthing i got pissed. all i saw was my people...havent ate for 4 days babys in old diapers. then i saw this little girl , that coulda been my little girl, standing on the hood on a almost sunkin car yelling " could somebody please help us" and dog... that was it. i got pissed i said where are all these muthafuckas i voted for ... yhea i said it .. i voted for. i knew in my heart if this was a bunch of white folks they woulda been there by now ..Shit my white mama woulda told you that.
Then i saw the police arresting my brothers for looting....can i ask you this who the fuck cares if you loot from a fuckin half sunkin distroyed grocery store..fuckin idiot. then as if it wasnt bad enough they started shooting us..i cant even say us, shit iam in cali on my puter.... PLEOPLE SHOOT THE MUTHERFUCKERS WHO WAS RAPEING WOMAN. them basterds need to die black or white! we are a fuckin shame US of Fuckin A , even bush admitted to that. and to all you mother fluckers who dissin my boy kanye get over it dumb asses. yall scared he was telling the truth? bush care, cas he got, to but ask bush if he wanna live in the hood. ask him did he ever get pulled over on a dwb . ask him did he get turned down for a job cas he got a felony cas all he knew how to do was get big bread selling dope tryin to get his family out the ghetto.ask bush this, why was new orleans at a low poverty level anyway when they are flooded every year with tourist cas of the marti gras . no, bush does not go to sleep at night with the burden of the black man on his mind. you stupid if you think he did. kanye told the truth so did huey so did malcom so did anglea davis and so do I. I voted for him cas he said abortion was wrong and he said he believed in the lord . not cas he loved black people none of them do clinton didnt either. he just wanted to be down. wake up people. You Go Kanye . Po Baby look like he was gonna cry ... I Did For You Daddy. Look I gotta New Fuckin Bracelet For you fake ass christians tryna get rich Peddling The word Of God . WWTD what would Tupac Do ... wonda what he woulda said.

Kayne west is right as we can't see the bush's action that goes with God bless america.I can imagine a super power country that can let down its people like this its a shame for the white house. is that because the people that could help new orlean today are else where killing people? and those who are in the usa will go and cut the cost by killing those who are trying to do what they can to survive. You are damn right kayne Bush is a business man and don't give a f**k about humanity.

What a stupid comment - by a stupid rapper with no talent - Bush doesn't like black people. This guy is an idiot!!!! Stupid. Stupid idiot. I would tell it to his face if I could. He looked like an idiot when he said it - Ask Ms. Rice about his comment - she would say the same thing. This guy is a racist. Plain and simple a scum sucking piece of trash!!

Kanye West is a piece of shit - fuck him - he gives black people a bad name that piece of shit. Rappers are a bunch of no talent assholes that feed on thier own to make a living - No rappers - no problem and no loss. The world would be a better place without that uneducated piece of crap. I hope he dies a horrible death. What do you call a big smelly turd - Kanye West

And by the way hiphop sucks - no talent - and no talent and no talent you bunch of scumbags!!! Get a real job if you can handle it - oops maybe not - that means work - FUCK Kanye West. He looked like an idiot the whole time! Boo hoo some black people had a hard time in New Orleans - blame the Mayor, blame the Governor - No blame G. Bush - MADE the hurricane so you pieces of shit could get free money from FEMA to rebuild your shitty houses you don't deserve. Having trouble cashing your welfare check in TX - thats because the white and black people here don't get the hand outs like you assholes do!

There sure are a lot of people on the internet who don't know what "racist" means...

George Bush has to bear AT LEAST partial blame for the government's snail like response to the worst natural disaster in US history. No matter what motives you think may or may not have caused Bush to handle (or not handle) the crisis the way he did, as President of the United States he is obligated to oversee the agencies under his control. Even if you wish to blame FEMA or Homeland Security or whoever more than Bush, the bottom line is that he is the President and he appointed or nominated all of the officials who did not respond in time to this crisis. If a Democrat were in office you just know the media and the whole right wing would be calling for his head. But somehow Bush is not to blame, ever, for anything, in some people's minds. It is NEVER his fault, no matter what. That is just illogical, you people sound like the Russian peasants who used to blame all the abuses and failures of Tsardom on the Tsar's officials, never the Tsar himself. You also sound the like later Russian peasants who under Stalin blamed the abuses of Communism on his top aids, never Stalin himself. And I am not Anti-Russian, you also sound like any group of people in denial anywhere who refuse to accept the facts. You are in rabid denial and it is pathetic to view, either that or you know you are lying, which is even worse. Now for those who say race played no part in this crisis, you are making an argument that the facts simply do not support. Almost everyone who was left in New Orleans without help was black, what a coincidence! Amazing! Please! Almost everyone who was too poor to get out was black, what an amazing coincidence! Wow! (I am white by the way and not poor) Bear with me for a moment and try to see this from a black person’s perspective (just try, it wont hurt to much I promise) Let's just imagine that black people had ruled America and whites were enslaved, eventually through a bloody civil war whites were freed, but then in roughly half the country a new form of racial segregation based largely on the old slave customs was imposed through violence. Finally that ended through a massive social movement. Now whites had achieved true legal and social equality under the law, at least in theory, but economic equality would take longer to achieve because whites would still have to catch up since they were held down for so long. Also rampant racism against whites still existed. A documented history of oppression and negligence exits towards whites in this alternate universe, oh and now a disaster hits a part of the country where many poor whites live, in a part of the nation which was infamous for previously enslaving and exploiting poor whites and denying them their rights and oops! Masses of these poor whites just happen to be left to die without food, water, or aid from the Federal government. If you were white in these circumstances and the government that neglected you was made up primarily of blacks whose ancestors had exploited, abused, and ignored you for centuries, are you telling me that you would not think race played a role in the situation? That it just happened to turn out that way? Are you kidding? Oh and obviously Kayne West gave up his First Amendment rights when he got on TV for that telethon. The truth is that people are so brainwashed that they think that TV exists only to convey entertainment and right wing propaganda, they do not have any problem with Hannity or Coulture or any other right winger saying whatever they want whenever they want, but God forbid someone challenge King George on TV. How dare Kanye West! Does he not know that in Bush's new America Bush is above blame and that us commoners are not allowed to question, let alone ridicule, our illustrious and fearless leader? Please! Someone needed to tell it like it is, and West did just that. The amount of right wing whining is amusing and demonstrates fear on their part, they know in their heart's West is right and they are wrong. For example their arguments are desperate and inane. All they can come up with is that "West RUINED the telethon, that ignorant, horrible, uneducated, unqualified, stupid, nigg... opps, I mean race played no part in the government's response to this disaster, this was not a racial situation. Except for the fact that the people doing the looting are all black and obviously black people do not know how to help themselves and blame whites for everything and rely on government handouts and we all know whites would not act like these lawbreaking nigg... oops! I mean racism ceased to exist in this country at some unspecified point that cannot be stated, racism against blacks never influences politics or political decisions EVER, just like it is NEVER Bush's fault." I am sorry but that is what these people sound like, their positions are inconsistent, naive, disingenuous, and based on their personal beliefs and not facts. Another crazy argument is that people would not donate to the victims of the disaster because they disagreed with West’s statements! Are you kidding? I cannot believe that anyone would use that argument! That really proves they are scraping the bottom of the barrel at this point. So let me get this straight, people who cared enough to donate in the first place are going to punish the victims of the disaster (who have nothing to do with West and bear no responsibility for his comments) as some sort of bizarre revenge/protest against West’s statements? Anyone who thinks this way really is sick, why would you take your anger against West out on the victims? Maybe it is because they actually do have something in common with West; maybe it is because they have suspiciously similar skin color, hmmm… “You know what, these blacks are horrible, West is black and he said things I did not like, and those people are black, so therefore I am not going to donate, they are out of control these nigg… oops! I mean race has nothing to do with this crisis, how dare West bring it up. He is not allowed to express his first amendment right and talk about race on TV because it upsets and displeases me. Oh and one last parting shot for those who think that just because Bush promoted a bunch of heartless scum like Rice and Gonzales who happen to be minorities (Rice was shoe-shopping in an ultra-expensive store on the upper East Side of Manhattan while these people were dying) only because they sold out their own races for their personal advancement. And if you want proof of that above statement, here it is, Bush and company have done everything in their power to prevent blacks from voting in the last three elections, in Florida in 2000 Bush’s brother as Governor of Florida had at least 50,000 blacks put on Felon lists who in fact were not felons, and thus they could not vote even though they never committed a felony. These people were disenfranchised and robbed of their Constitutional rights in a cynical and pre-mediated fashion. Any minority person who would support a candidate who does such a thing or had done such a thing, and it is a proven fact that this is exactly what occurred in 2000, is a sell-out, pure and simple. Bush does not care about black people, in fact Bush does not care about poor whites either, but he cares EVEN LESS about poor blacks. I also find it amusing that people who defend Bush dare to ridicule West’s speaking ability, please try and remember that your lord and savior King George struggles to put coherent sentences together when he does not have prepared material to read, and he is a professional politician! Or that West was too emotional, emotion is just what the nation needs right now, when Bush is emotional that is fine, but West is not allowed to be emotional, or actually he is allowed to emotional, but only if he supports Bush or stays neutral, he just cant be emotional while denouncing Bush. It is this kind of Funhouse mirror logic that proves that these people who hate West and what he said would hate him and what he said no matter where or how he said it. The fact is they are brainwashed drones that love Bush or are cynical mercenaries to Bush’s cause who know better but serve him anyway. West should continue to speak out against Bush and not be intimidated by the right wing smear campaign, does Bush concern himself with the left’s verbal campaigns against him? No, or course not, he just stubbornly pushes ahead with his agenda and fights on. That is what the left should do as well. One thing we can learn from conservatives is not to fear the other side, not to worry about the inevitable criticism. “Oh did we say it the right way at the right time, what if we alienate people, what if this, what if that” More important than those concerns is the urgent need to denounce Bush at every opportunity and circumstance, we need to be just as ruthless and fanatical as Bush and his supporters if there is any hope of ever defeating them. There is no middle ground anymore, Bush destroyed it so stop looking for it, it is never coming back, and there is no compromise with people like Bush and his supporters. Liberals need to wake up and become more militant, or at least more verbally aggressive. Also for those who think West “politicized” a “non-political” event, you guys really do live in fantasyland with these imaginary distinctions that exist only in theory and not in reality. Anyway, how is a telethon to raise money to aid victims of a disaster who have subsequently been neglected by the government a “non-political” event? No of course according to these right wing idiots and wimpy liberals West should have gone along with the big lie, chastised the horrible “looters” and given Bush a free pass for his horrible management of the worst natural disaster in American history. “If only West had been more “professional” more people would have donated and those poor people would have gotten help earlier from the government. Obviously it is West’s fault that aid did not get their sooner, in fact West probably caused the disaster in the first place by encouraging all these poor blacks to hate whites and look for handouts, why if not for West we would all live in a perfect America where racism did not exist and everyone would realize the enormous benefits King George bestows upon us in his infinite charity, West is just one more ungrateful nigg… oops! I mean West is the problem, not Bush and the government’s response, West is bad, he is the worst ever, he probably works with Bin Laden to subvert America for the benefit of the leftist media establishment.” People where are your priorities? Not matter what you think of West and what he said, he is not the problem at the moment, the problem is the Federal Government’s unbelievably glacial response to the worst natural disaster in American history, and since George Bush is the President the Federal Government’s response to these situations is ultimately his responsibility, and he failed utterly. Those are the facts, they are indisputable, and no matter how many names you call West or how many times you ridicule him, it will not change the essential facts. Bush is the worst President since Herbert Hoover and this Administration is sucking the life out of America, literally and figuratively. West had the courage to call Bush on his awful performance and we should all emulate West’s bravery. If you disagree with West you should at least respect his right to voice his opinion, unless of course you are a fascist who believes that West should not be allowed to state his opinions, in which case you are not a real American and are a traitor, just like Bush himself and his whole Administration. To Kanye West: Keep socking it to them, don’t let up now, you got them on the run! Now is the time to go for the kill!!!

Anybody who thinks kanye west is justified in what he said, and he speaks the truth needs to pack up and go with him and hold that race card up high,as you load up the boat and simply wave bye to the LAND OF THE FREE as you float away OUT of this country because no room here to stay.

That is how it should be, if we can't all get along and live together as ONE MIGHTY NATION, get the hell out, because I love all people,In case you are wondering my race well I AM AMERICAN
PLAIN and SIMPLE not white nor black,AMERICAN

Its a Shame on you DL this is not about Kayne been a hero but talking about reality and that the white house is not doing enough to help new orlean where the majority is poor black people. Anyone that think that kayne west is wrong we all know who you are and better go and seek for help. its about time someon talk about whats going on and from today im a kayne west fan. Don't forget that last november vote bush said that Im the president that can protect the american people. where is new orlean? it look like the president doesn't no much about geography but he is good on pointing out Iraq; Iran and afganistan its a good investment for the white house. My blessin goes to kayne west and we love you kayne.

Oh My GOD.....i mean kayne west an idiot, over 75% of you idiots are worse than him...way to go kane, you really showed him...
Kayne Awesome job on not focusing on the real subject and diverting the truth (because yes people over half the population of New Orleans ARE black ((GASP!)) and yes census buearu does show New Orelans DOES have high welfare and unemployment rates (mostly among blacks-and MOST were in that condition when our dear leader Adolf Clinton was in office)...facts are hard to swallow...obviously Kayne ignores that and goes straight to an nationally televised idiotic statement...whew, thanks mr.west (whos given us suck great lyrics like
N-now, th-th-through ya motherfuckin hands
GET EM HIGH
All the girls pass the weed to ya motherfuckin man
GET EM HIGH
Now I ain't never tell you to put down ya hands
KEEP EM HIGH
And if ya losin yo high than smoke again
KEEP EM HIGH) Love that one...

Now i know never EVER to let my son or daughter buy your garbage (but i guess they could download it as long as you dont get a cent from me.)
Anyway...more proof that America is dumbing...
Please help thoes in need...this should not be about race (but the blacks wont let that go now will they?) its about thoes with out a home, without hope....help in ANYWAY you can.

Mr Shaka is definetly a nutter not talking about the issue that kayne said. Don't forget that Ms rice is black but not representing black people in the white house as she is just another g. bush's business adviser. kayne's point is all about why did we voted a president that can't help us but helping other nations? simple your friend is the one that going to be there for you. its not on kayne that felt that way about g. bush but the entire black people around the world are behind kayne west's comment and well done kayne.

Kanye is entitled to say what he believes in , and with his fame what better way to use it. and you know he's got a point -i'm not saying i agree with it entirely but half the rappers out there are total thick heads and wouldn't give it 2 seconds thought. if you've ever heard his lyrics you'de know the difference he makes. Bush needs to direct his comments in a better light rather than implying that the red cross will deal with it, like its not his worry. go kanye love ya

and get your head out your arse shaka no-one agrees with you. you're as selfish as bush

After watching what happened, I wouldn't call what Kanye said a "speech." This is a rough time, for everyone and he spoke what was on his mind. He had a lot more courage that I would have had, to say that on live TV. It wasn't a rant, it was pure unbridled emotion. I'm glad that he felt comfortable enough to say it.

And let's be serious, the people who are getting fucked the most is the black people in this situation. Yes, the Mayor wanted people to leave, but where could you go? Without money and family in other places, would you have the courage to pack up and leave everything? No one could have predicted it would be this bad. If they had, they would have made those levees to resist a level 5 hurricane instead of a level 3.

I think that the reason the most people who donate are white is because white people, overall, have more money than blacks. Instead, I'll give blood and necessities.

I love Kanye, because a lot of what he has to say is just real. Still, he probably won't get invited to many other things again.

guido WELL SAID

I'm glad that more people are speaking about what they believe in and not just saying what can advance their career. If you feel strongly about an issue and you have the chance to say something, and then you give up that chance, I think that it would make you feel like less of a person. I would guess that even though Kanye might be having regrets he probobly has never felt so alive.

I am not the biggest Kanye West fan, but he is saying what a lot of blacks and whites are thinking. He is far from an idiot to say how he is feeling inside. And at leat he was honest in saying he tried not to let what was happening affect him. He was clearly moved by what happened and what he said was not pre-planned. I am a British Black female..and even I wonder how on earth George Bush is your President especially after the Iraq War. He does not care! When 9/11 happened he has people out there post haste. This disaster is no different from 9/11. Deep South will never be kind to black people.

People People people.... Do u realise how silly a lot of this sounds. People on here actually admitting that Mr Wests comments are stopping them from donating!! Oh please! How stupid is that! Mr West did not speak for everyone concerned with the programme, and so why punish your fellow americans in need of help because you were offended by somebody else's opinions?!

Personally, I think what he did was extremely brave. To call his actions selfish is the most ridiculous thing ever. That would imply that he has something to gain from doing what he did. This reminds me of Micheal Moore's oscar acceptance speech... sometimes you just have to use what opportunities you get to say what so many people are too scared to say.

I am a british, white female and maybe I don't have the same insight as you guys do. But from where I am standing too many people are hiding behind fear instead of seeing whats right in front of you. Who else do you blame when you have been let down so by your government?! Maybe now people will stop supporting this illegal war and try and get Bush to do what he should have been doing all along.. looking after his own country and it's people rather than trying to rape other countries of their wealth!

The government's slow response wasn't exclusively due to the race of the New Orlean's population. I'd argue it has more to do with poverty in general. America simply put does not care about its poor. The local, state and federal government knew exactly how many N.O. residents lived below the poverty level. In fact, many of these people lived in public housing and made use of public transportation. Thus, it should not come as a surprise to anyone that they lacked the means to escape the city when the call to evacuate was made. Where were the buses, helicopters etc. for all these people without transportation? All the government offered them was a phoney offer of refuge at the Superdome (assuming they were capable of walking there or manage to catch a bus there before they stopped running). If they managed to escape the city, where exactly were they going? This is the poor after all. They can't afford indefinite hotel stays. This whole fiasco is and should remain a huge black eye on America for many years to come.

Frederick Douglas once wrote, "Without struggle, there is no progress." we as Americans are obviously still struggling because we have made absolutely no progress in the racial department. There are thousands of people who are starving and have no clean clothes and no where to sleep and all we can talk about is race. Along the lines with what DJ said, I believe in my heart that there is only ONE race, and that's the human race. Yes, there will always be those idiots out there that teach their children to hate other people "different" from them, but we as a " human race" need to come together and change the way that people think not of a person's race, but their cultural backgrounds. Tolerance is the key word here. I don't condone what Kanye West said, but that is his right in America to express those feelings. That's why I'm proud to live in the USA where we don't get persecuted for saying stuff like that. People, friends, brothers, sisters, let's put aside our differences and concentrate on breaking down this "race" barrier, so when we have a crisis like we have in N.O., then we can band together and help one-another instead of pointing fingers and blaming one-another.

i wish he wouldve said what we all really woula loved to say on live tv...

"F U C K BUSH!"

worst president in our country's history

STOP CRYING YOU BLACK DUMBASS'S... SEROUISLY THERE WAS A MANDATORY EVACUATION ORDER.. YOU WERE SHOOTING AT RESCUE WORKERS... AND LOOTING TV'S AND GUNS .. NOT FOOD AND CLOTHES.. GET WITH FACTS IDIOTS...

Kanye west is a arrogant asshole-why doesnt he go down there and help, he could pull some mony together. AND the mayor and others should quit complaining about how slow the recovery efforts are going-we are going as fast as we can. America is not ready for a disaster like this-just wait untill another attack happens or a war? We need to stop enabling people tp rely on state and govtment assistance and stop having kids. Mayor Ray Nagin is bitchin' because HE failed his citizens and wants to place the blame on someone else-he should be removed form his office.

Another thing-NOBODY deserves to die and suffer like they are in NEW Orleans NOmatter what race you are- but WHen is america going to stop enabling people to keep having children and supporting them ther whole life on sstate and govt funds. (Hypothetically) If an earthquake or another natural disaster happens in LA-the people will just complain that we dont care about latino or mexican families. America in general is arrogant and like to bitch aboout everything else- start taking responsibility for yourself.

everybody should rea "John Albrecht" comments.

everybody should read "John Albrecht" comments.

Oh fuck. Kayne West is fucking ignorant as hell. Obviously there are different social classes in this country and there is typically a difference in classes within each race. but seriously, how many people think that Bush said "Let's get this company up and running, help all the people that have been hurt by disaster or anything else... except for those black people. Let's try to keep them down." Seriously! Everyone that has a brain and understands our country and our economy knows that ANY president is going to look at this disaster (in particular) as a whole and try to do what they can to fix it. What does RACE have to do with it? Nothing! Kayne used this as just another excuse to make a white crack and a "poor us" comment. So they are bringing fire power down there to stop the looting and the killing. They may have to kill some people? ok, whatever. Well what if 80% of the people causing the havoc are black and 20% are white? If they kill and arrest people and if 80% are black and 20% of them are white.. does that not make sense? If there are more black people doing the looting, killing and raping and more of the people shown on TV are black.. does that not make sense? Our country continuously tries to make efforts to stop segregation. Black people continue to cry about "it's not fair!". It's getting real old! When celebrities come out with this crap on national TV, it's pretty fuckin sad if you ask me. Kayne West is an arrogant person and I'm not a fan of him and this is just another reason I think he's a moron.

KANYE WEST FOR PRESIDENT

Would you agree with what he said if he was someone you were a fan of? Probably. Just so happens that he is black. He was talking about the POOr in particular. New Orleans has been denied money for years. Bush didn't say lets go rescue everyone but the black. He didn't have to, his actions spoke for him. They aint do shit for dayS! If you ask me Bush don't care bout none of the southern "LESS WELL OFF" STATES!

Did George Bush actually post here?

Doesn’t Kayne West know that White People are responsible for everything bad that happens to any Black? I for one am Glad there are extremely intelligent people like Kayne West to point this out to america. I was really shocked when I found out he was not running against Bush in the last election. I am even more surprised not to see him in New Orleans heading up the relief efforts there. Maybe next disaster, right Kayne.

What Kanye said is what most of the black community has been saying since the day Bush came into the office. I respect him for what he did, although it was a little arrogant, he stood up for the black community. Just think about it, I know that there are troops overseas, but when September 11th and the tsunmai happened, Bush responded in 24 hours. When it is time to help the blacks he responds 4 days later! What's wrong with this picture? Also, Bush is calling the people affected by the Hurricane refugees. Come on these are citizens of our nation. Bush is a punk because he did not even visit New Orleans because he was scared that he was going to get tore down. Thanks Kanye and I wish you all the best.

I visited new orleans. That was a load of sh*t sheka.

for all those people on this page for dissin kanye for saying what he said: shame on you. It took shit-loads of courage for him to go up and say that. to all the people who said it was foolish and too political, I dont see you going up and expressing your views on tv.
Also, i think nbc was wrong to cut off kanye. what happened to people having the write to free speech and opinions, albeit on live tv.
And the poor guy was so nervous too. he performs infront of thousands at a time but he wal still stuttering and breathing deeply between words. that took balls. You have to respect that, even if you think he was being stupid. I think that alot of peoplt were thinking hat George Bush did not care about the black people of New Orleans but kanye went one step further thn everyone else. This man is a living Legend. what happened to the american dream? the freedom of speech for all our brothers, wherther they are a rockefellar or a pauper. did anybody complain when martin luther king stood and fought for rights? you people are acting like cowards and are just conforming to everynbodys opinion. maybe this man will finally shine the light on george bush and ask the questions on everybodys lips."what kind of president is this man?".thank you

Wow disappearing responses. Interesting censorship.

aside from the horrible dissaste but sort of related- What people in america are really afraid to say is that " we are sick and tired of people living off the system, stop having kids when you cant afford it, and stop blaming other people for your problems. And dont be so stubid and try to assume my race-thats not the point

If people make fake posts impersonating someone else, or otherwise taking this discussion as a joke, they stand a chance of being deleted.

Censor on my friend

Are those really George Bush Post?

mw- what do you do for a living? Are you educated? I see that you can do math, but can you think? I bet you have never left your country. Please read your posting and recognize how much your statement mirrors Kanye's. The irony is however,your motivation and the facts behind it. What makes sense to me is that you are very racist.

Did deeper, use your brain...

The Beauty of this site is that you never know what has been deleted from the post. I am off to a real site that does not censor. Remember, Love is Blind and sees no color.

dissing kanye west?? He dissed himself and made him and other so called educated minorities look really dumb! How can you say that president bush is racist?? Its not about racism. its about not caring about the poor. He is a rich mans president who deep down is probably tired of people living off the system. On the last note..Black people should be very careful before they call a man who they voted for, racist. Remember this is the man all the religous idiots put back into the office..and now they are the same that are paying for it.but comon everyone knows that gay marriage's and stem cell research should never be practiced..those are the two most important reasons you vote for a president??..right????praise the Lord..christian minorites really kicked themselves in the ass...P.S. West is very religous i hear..so bush should be his man

FUCK BUSH, FUCK ALL YA'LL SORRY AS WHITE PEOPLE. GOOD FOR NOTHING!!! KANYE YOU REPRESENT... WE NEED GET OUR ACT TOGETHER, AND TAKE ALL THESE WHITE PEOPLE OUT.... kILL EM ALL,

NAT TURNER STYLE!!!!

I fell the LOVE, can you feel it

Outthere: thanks, I will. :)

Look through this thread and be honest with yourself: it is clear I am not censoring anyone based on their views. Every opposing viewpoint is being freely expressed here, including many that are blatantly racist. But people who are trying to *disrupt* the discussion will not be allowed to do so. If you don't like that, you are indeed free to go elsewhere.

sorry ass white people? wow-whose the racist. still someone not taking responsibility for ther own race.

Unless you've ever been an individual of African American descent living in the United States, you cannot begin 2 imagine or even attempt to comment on the state of race relations. Maybe Kanye wasnt able to express his thoughts and feelings as eloquently and polished as certain individuals may have appreciated, but he spoke from his heart...And he spoke of a truth that has been pushed to the back of people minds, but yet still exists...This is America and it is designed to help the poor, etc however when millions of AMERICANS watched unimaginable destruction and utter chaos play out around them and simply wanted a clean diaper for their child, insulin for their sick 92year old grandmother who survived cancer, and a mere cup of clean water for their parched throats---how can anyone possibly justify it taking nearly a week to provide these things.
Whether their is a difference between the treatment of wht americans vs blk americans, and rich ones vs poor ones, is not even a question in my mind....Yet, now is not the time to discuss such an issue, when these tens of thousands of helpeless individuals are still in such a dire situation that will not likely improve for weeks, months, and years to come...
The mother who lost her home and became seperated from the newborn baby she delivered, does not care about race relations rite now...she simply cares about being given the strength by GOD (or whomever she prays to) to make it through another day or nite, w/a part of her very being missing. The father, whose wife let go of his hand when flood waters proved 2 strong for either of them 2 bear and was told by her to take care of their 4 children...is not realy thinking about the blk/wht side of the issue....he is wondering how he can possibly bear life less his soulmate and how to possibly tell his children of the bravery their mother possessed and the love she had for all of them that knew no bounds...

dude i was laughin so hard when i heard that shit. DAMN!!
aside all the jokes, what kanye said should not even affect your decision to do what is right. Not donating because of what kanye said is ignorant. you donate because you want to help those people who are in need. Do what is right, America!!

Aight aight... I agree with the whole Bush is the ass because he doesnt care. But I do have to say that there was no reason to make it a black and white issue. The issue will always be there unfortunatly but thats our fault... everyones bitching about it but not doing anything to help end it. I agrree with Kanye but I wish he wouldve put it into different wording. I remember him talking about equality back in the day and I laughed back then because he some how makes things a black and white issue.. its time to fuckin grow up. I am 1 on maybe 6 white people/ families in my area. That shit doesnt matter to anyone. I get respect by everyone and anyone around here... and I give the respect back. The president should be doing more... thats what it comes down to.. Theyve stopped any type of effort to help... ex. having the trucks of water Wal Mart sent, sent back without giving those people anything. To me thats saying... let them die off... So maybe the last statement Kanye made was true... i wouldnt be suprised, but he did it in the wrong way. Ive been reading up about this everywhere... and instead of Red Cross getting donations.. people were calling and complaining and yelling and all that shit... So he managed to make Red Cross look terrible.. Thats some immature shit... He has money... He can spread his word anywhere... Give Red Cross the respect they deserve for being some of the only people helping and doing what they can.


How many people on here are helping? im guessing very few if any.. most people just like to bitch about things. If you arent helping in anyway you have no right to talk and bitch.Your just as bad as Bush. I personally didnt vote for the man... and im crackin up cause so many people are seeing him for what he is from this.. and regreting their choice.

Hey well I didnt agree with Kanye west and what he was saying, I love kanye and now that I heard what he said, i kinda lost a little respect. everyone is screaming about stopping racism, but who is really putting in their efforts? saying "My people" isnt a start I know that much. Black people this and black people that. white muthafuckas this and white muthafuckas that. you know damn well that if it was turned around and some white rapper was talkin bout "my people"
a lot of ppl would start saying hes indeed racist. as for the difference between looting and trying to survive...USE UR FUCKIN BRAIN! stealing shoes and technology is NOT SURVIVING! IT IS STEALING. it had NOTHIng to do with race. Lets get back to helping the PEOPLE, not the "black folks" its PEOPLE! yea fuckin most ppl out there are black, DUHHHHHH! most of the population was black to begin with! all the whites and other races are still out there too!

"i disagree get a clue" you're the dumbest son of a bitch i've ever come across. you're telling people it's okay to steal tv's because it's away of balancing out circumstances. what the fuck are you talking about. stealing is stealing. i say put a cap in any bastard who's trying to come up with anything that's not strictly for survival. by the way, only the dumbest piece of shit on earth would be wading through three feet of sewage water to steal a tv during this ordeal. where they planning on plugging it in. that's the problem with some of these people...they don't think. if i were out there and i saw some asshole walking out of my store (or any other store) i'd put a fuckin bullet in em. one less jackass the world has to deal with.

It's not creating a negative stereotype if what they are showing is actually happening. Do you honestly think there is someone sitting behind a desk with hours of raw footage saying, "let's show only clips of white's looking for food and black's looting.”? No, they are showing what is actually happening and if that offends people then I'm sorry, deal with it. It is REALITY. Now I know the words racist or bigot will be associated with this post b/c if you don't say that white Republicans are bad then you are such. It was a selfish act b/c Kayne West was representing the Red Cross which is doing all it can to help the citizens of New Orleans. His remarks hurt the very people and cause he says he is endorsing. If that weren't so then why did Red Cross and NBC issue statements that his remarks in no way represent that of NBC or the Red Cross? Why was it cut from the west coast feed?

Go Kanye!!!!(iam speaking for my people down in New orleans) You did what you had to do. My pastor had a conference call with the president of the united states and did not punk out like the mayor of New Orleans but he told the president "what happend? why didn't america act fast? (all the pastors were trying to calm him down) I mean you have now taught the world that america is weak." He is now in New Orleans. He said if anyone trys to stop me from helping my people they have another thing coming. All of the African American heroes(that aren't dead) All they can do is sit on the asses and watch. i mean come on. I am a black girl my self but if we are going to keep our people alive we better start acting!!!!

ZAZA-great point(s) god bless. godd point "huh" amd "Tom"

I do agree with Kanye's idea in a sense because racism is still definitely alive and well, however I think this issue is more about class. Every nationality that was affected by Hurricane Katrina that had the money to evacuate, left these affected cities. I do believe that this situation was handled in a slow manner, because most of these people are poor and at the mercy of others. I am somewhat dissappointed with the delivery of what Kanye said on national television and there is always more than one way to get your point across. African Americans receive highly negative portrayals on television and I think that Kanye contributed to the stereotypes. But, what he definitely did for me is to help me realize how selfish sometimes we can be as people. I too was shopping and carrying on with my normal little life as well as OTHERS (whether admitted or not). Let's focus on how each of us can help these victims because no one knows what unforseen tragedies could be coming OUR way. We all know where we have been but don't know where we are going!!!!

kanya b speakin da truth we need dat kind of brotha in hip hop u go boy !!!!! i love u rep chi town 2 da fullest pe@ce

ALL MUTHAFUKN' ME READY...GO KANYE!!!!!

while i've been reading this and for the most part have found a lot of support for kanye i've also heard a lot of dissention, often based on the fact that many people are criticizing the victims for looting things that are seemingly unneccesary (i.e. electronics, clothing, drugs...). however i feel that those who are criticizing are not taking into consideration the psychological effects this is taking on the victims. in lower class primarily black areas, drug usage has been running rampant for years. much of this is due to the difficulties of being black in america. many look for the a gateway to escape, at least temporarily, from the stresses that become every day life. black america, in general, looks at the world in a vastly different fashion than white america. simple things like entering a grocery store, or being pulled over by a police officer at a seemingly routine checkpoint becomes a situation where one often becomes very much aware of their own race. it is these pressures that cause people to take the escapist route through drugs. especially when few outside the black community choose to help, and few within the black community actually can. now that drugs in the illegal market are clearly more limited in supply and availabilty than they once were in NO prescription drugs have become the fallback plan to this escape route...i mean if you lost your home and everything you may have ever known within the course of a day or two wouldn't you want to escape too. also, in terms of looting for non-essentials such as clothing and television sets, we live in a very money driven capitalist society. few would disagree that this country is a primarily elitist society where those with the most money tend to have the most power. kanye west said it himself in "College Dropout": "they make us hate ourselves and love they wealth." all of these capitalistic ideas have driven us to devalue ourselves when we don't have anything of material value. these people in NO have lost everything they may have ever known..soem have no relatives or family to go to outside of NO. it would not be surprising if many felt that they no longer had much to even live for...although i can't say i know this for a fact. but if their sense of belonging and sense of home has been taken, along with their abliity to control what had up until Katrina been their own lives, as well as any source of material wealth, (although because the vast majority of blacks in NO were living in poverty so that may not have even been much) they need something to validate the value of their own lives. and because of the values of American society, that validation comes through ownership of property. and at this point it doesn't matter whether they attained it legally or not, as long as they have it...because for them the world's over

Hear this:

The Mayor of New Orleans and the Govenor didn't read the emergency plan sitting in their offices-that he screamed for help on the news calling for a black out on news conferences but couldn't read the plan that alotted 1st responders gear-generaters-phones and cots--???there were some stock piles that have never were employed

Federal Government doesn't come on a whim or busting in they are requested via chain of command--not via CNN but first you have to do what your local office calls for--then it goes up hill---you should know what options are available prior to the event--

He left is own police force undermanned and targets--he told everyone to get out but had no idea that it was up to him to start the ball rolling in caring for his own--

and he is black-and by no means poor-
so the screaming finger pointing-crying leader should step up to the plate--

but that'll never happen-cause he has played the CARD--

People need to stand up against this Kayne West character. Unfortunately, he speaks to the impulsive, angry, and ignorant in American society, and young impressionable blacks. They are the people who are going to suffer the most from Kayne West's personal agenda.

I speak to the blacks in America; please don't make this fool into a role model. You don't want leaders like him.

fuck nino and dl they bitches kanye is real

fuck captin planethe a dick rider

Whose going to start a new revolution for black people? Not a well known powerfull black leader, or, for that matter, some one who can read above an eigth grade level. But Kanye West?!?

The situation sucks, but what in gods name is this dusche trying to prove. It just shows how stupid this useless hump is, he trys to stir political emotions to get people pissed, instead of trying to save "his people."

I don't think the blacks in the superdome are giving Kanye "big ups" when thy're laying next to a dead person and they're dehydrated as all hell giving up hope. Even if this idiot tried to do some good he's to stupid to get it right.

And if you think he's the new king of hip hop then hip hop is going the way of the fukin' "macarana" and I'm switching to fukin' country! You all suck and need to register for classes before you become as dumb as your fukin' sh!t pile of a leader.

Very interesting that your video clip failed to include the first part of what Mike Meyers said. I wonder how many of you have actually spent time in New Orleans and have half a clue what you are talking about. Kanye West certainly did not. It is sad to think that he has been chosen to represent the struggle of black people. Is there any proof or logic behind the accusations that he hurls or is it simply an emotional response to a situation that he knows little about. I am from south La. and have family that was directly impacted by this storm. All Kanye West is doing is striking another blow to the awful segregation that is still alive down there. What he said, the forum in which he chose to say it, and his delivery are as criminal and pathetic as the looters and folks shooting at helicopters.

It's very simple... Kayne is an uneducated, backward-ass, racist that has no clue about what Katrina did to both MS & LA. I think NBC needs to fine Kayne for the live time he used... I am sure it is a few Million... The N.O. mayor is a complete idiot and acted like a tree-swinging nigger that he is... He needs to be shot in the head.

why can't these people acknowledge bush's personal agenda? to help his cronies like halliburton gain katrina contracts and to sit on his ass the first four days of the crisis, go golfing and shit, these people who hate on kanye are out of touch with reality. kinda like the bush admin, no?

Kanye your a dumbass man......even if your right...the red cross is trying to get money for the hurricane relief...and by you saying that....and the fact that more than 3 quarters of America are white......you probably scared off have of them and they gave no money because of your antics.....your worthless man...he is your president...like it or not....deal with it or get out...im not to fond of him either but i do achnoledge that he is my president...PS im a better rapper than you....you suck

first off people of color can't be racist. they can be prejudice.

secondly, i do not agree that bush don't care for black people. he doesn't care for POOR people. if the hurricane was hit in FL or TX both republican Bush country, we would see more of an evac plan and steadier relief plan.

re:T.J. "nd the fact that more than 3 quarters of America are white"

i think you need to check your own facts. because the last time i saw the Census it showed that white people in terms of population are a minority. however, in terms of power, they are hands down the majority. shit, truth be told, they hold all the power.

KhmerWarrior, you don't know shit. Anyone can be a racist... the proof is constantly on national T.V. I grieve for ALL of those who have suffered from the hurricane. However, blaming anyone other than yourself for not HEEDING the warnings is ludicrous. The mayor of N.O. himself is a victim, and he is the worst of the bunch. If I lived in N.O., I would make damn sure that dumb-ass nigger was outsted. He needs to resign. The government is doing everything they can to stablize the whole damn region, no just N.O. We are not talking about a few blocks folks! It will take a year or more to clean this shit up... so quit your crying and grab a mop and broom! (in other words, get back to work niggers!) I pray that Kayne West chokes on the crack-pipe he smokes and I read about his death in the paper!!!

FIRST OF ALL...KANYE WEST DID WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD HAVE NOT, BUT WHAT MANY THOUGHT! EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT IF HE'S INTELLIGENT ENOUGH AND HE DIDN'T SPEAK PROPER??? WHO REALLY GIVES A FUCK??? BUSH CAN'T SPEAK WITHOUT HESITATING (HE CAN'T FUCKING TALK PERIOD!...YET PEOPLE STILL VOTED FOR HIM??? LET'S BE 4REAL!!! KANYE WEST WAS REAL AND I RESPECT THAT! WHY CAN'T OTHERS??? PEOPLE JUST DON'T LIKE TO HEAR THE TRUTH...BECAUSE THAT SHIT HURTS AND IT'S REEEEEEALLLL!!! TO DL, APTLYNAME235, DIAPPOINTED, KANYE SUCKS AND THE OTHER FUCKING HATERS!! GIVE A FUCKING LIFE...YOU PEOPLE ARE SO FUCKING IGNORANT...BUT HEY SOMEONE HAS TO BE...RIGHT??? I TRULY BELIEVE THAT IF IT WAS THE WHITE OR ANY OTHER RACE AND HIGHER CLASS (SOCIAL) THAT BUSH AND THE GOVERNMENT WOULD HAVE DROPPED AT A DIME...THEY WOULD HAVE BUSTED THEIR ASS TO HELP... REMEMBER...SEPTEMBER 11TH...GIVING THE FAMILIES MILLIONS OF DOLLARS??? AND THE TSUNAMI VICTIMS...PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF WORLD...ALL OF THOSE CHARITY CONCERTS AND TELEVISED BEGGING ...WHAT CONCERTS/COMMERICALS HAVE BEEN AIRED FOR "OUR PEOPLE"??? NOT MANY...IT SEEMS AS IF THE RED CROSS HAS DONE THE MAJORITY OF THE WORK!!! MAN...PEOPLE THINK!!! KANYE WEST DID WAS REAL!! IN MY BOOK, BEING REAL GETS YOU MORE RESPECT THAN LYING AND BEING A HYPOCRITE!! MAN...YOU NON-SUPPORTERS ARE REALLY PSSING ME OFF BECAUSE...YOU ALL ARE NAIVE AND JUST FULL OF SHIT. OHH, ANOTHER THING KANYE IS NOT SELFISH..IF HE WAS WHY IS HE EVEN CONCERNED ABOUT THE VICTIMS??? TAKE A SECOND AND THINK ABOUT IT!!! ONE MORE THING...TO KANYE SUCKS...FOR YOUR COMMENT OF CALLING KANYE A "NIGGER"... YOU ARE A DUMB ASS PUNK BITCH!!! GET A FUCKING LIFE...MAY GOD BLESS YOU!!! MAY HE BLESS EVERYONE!!

Congratulations Kanye West!! You are now the official mouthpiece for idiocy amongst the Africian American community. What a moron you are. You have set back Hip Hop music at least 10 years.

Kanye West and Jesse Jackson give me, a black man, a bad name.

you said:
The situation sucks, but what in gods name is this dusche trying to prove. It just shows how stupid this useless hump is, he trys to stir political emotions to get people pissed, instead of trying to save "his people."

how about you try learning how to spell before you call someone an idiot superfunk. i guess that makes you the "douche" who needs to learn how to visit dictionary.com for words beyond your 4th grade reading level. IDIOT.

If you disagree with WHAT Kanye said then fine. You're entitled to your opinion, but at least give an intelligent rebuttal. If all you have to say is "he mumbled" or "he's a crappy mc" then do better.

And if you disagree with the theme of what Kanye was saying (cliffnotes version: the POOR and MOSTLY black folks in NO were left to die by an incompetent local and federal government), I suggest you check the thread right above this one with the comments from Charmaine Neville, who was one of the victims.

here's the link:
http://tinyurl.com/83p7f

Also, if you have a problem with the "time and place" that Kanye chose to make his comment, then I'd love to hear your response to this EDITORIAL:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/04/sunday/printable814720.shtml

What If They Were White?
NEW YORK, Sept. 4, 2005

The fact that many of those suffering most in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina are poor, and black, has outraged a lot of people. Justifiably so, in the opinion of CBS News Sunday Morning Contributor Nancy Giles. Here is her commentary from Sept. 4, 2005:
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After meeting with Louisiana officials last week, Rev. Jesse Jackson said: "Many black people feel that their race, their property conditions and their voting patterns have been a factor in the response." He continued: "I'm not saying that myself."

Then I'll say it.

If the majority of the hardest hit victims of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans were white people, they would not have gone for days without food and water, forcing many to steal for mere survival.

Their bodies would not have been left to float in putrid water.

They would have been rescued and relocated a hell of a lot faster than this. Period.

I mean, reporters and crews are getting to stranded people, and government and military agencies can't? Why doesn't CNN run FEMA?

When I saw pictures of black people taking things from stores, my first thought was: "How are those Air Jordans necessary for your survival?"

Then it hit me: People needed shoes and clothing. Some escaped the floods with just the clothing on their backs

We have American citizens, not "refugees" from an underdeveloped country, still waiting for shelter.

Waiting.

Waiting.

You leave children, pregnant women, the elderly, even the able-bodied, in a city destroyed with no help, no food, no water, no electricity for three, four, five days? What would you do if your family was starving, and you saw people dying in the street?

And why didn't the stores in the disaster areas simply make their goods available to these desperate folks? Surely, they've got insurance.

Love thy neighbor. Didn't I read that somewhere?

The real war is not in Iraq, but right here in America. It's the War on Poverty, and it's a war that's been ignored and lost. An estimated 37 million Americans are living in poverty. New Orleans is one of the poorest cities in the country, with 40 percent of its children living in poverty. Mississippi has the highest poverty rate of any state. We've repeatedly given tax cuts to the wealthiest, and left our most vulnerable American citizens to basically fend for themselves.

The whole world is watching. And once again, a day late and a dollar short, words of wisdom from our president: "This is a huge task that we're dealing with." "These are tough times." "Give cash."

Once again, he finds the photo op: Some black folks to hug, some white men in Mississippi to bond with. He flies over the messy parts of New Orleans, waves and leaves.

The president has put himself at risk by visiting the troops in Iraq, but didn't venture anywhere near the Superdome or the Convention Center, where thousands of victims, mostly black and poor, needed to see that he gave a damn.

Thanks for the Neville link that was powerful and it put the helicopter shooting into context it's funny you won't hear that explanation on the news.

here's the link:
http://tinyurl.com/83p7f

You can always count on the niggers to turn any situation into a racial issue. I was in Andrew back in 92 and we didnt see help for days either. The reason everyone says the blacks are looting and the whites are looking for food is because the blacks are the ones on TV carrying shopping carts with television sets in them and pushing pianos thru the water. Give me a fucking break. Does anyone here have a clue that there are whites in some of these affected areas that have also been suffering from the govnmts delayed response? Only thing left to do now is help out by donations. Shut the fuck up about it being over race. Watch TV. The majority of the volunteers helping out are white.

I feel what Kanye West was saying sometimes we as humans can be shellfish and only think of ourselves but he admitted to it which makes it different. I also feel if Kayne West would have had other celebs to join him, it would have made a bigger impact.

If it were mostly white people struck by this catastrophe, Kanye wouldn't have been nearly crying infront of the Camera... Hes a racist. Don't applaud him for his unproffessional remark towards bush.... Bush tried to respond as fast as possible but its because of the idiots that were SHOOTING away that caused difficulty for help to settle in. Kanye is nowhere a hero...hes just a rich racist black guy wanting Equality. THE LAW IS IN FAVOR OF MINORITIES IN CASE ANY OF YOU HAVEN'T REALIZED

Congratulations!!! You all created your own war. Welcome to earth....Peace Everyone!!!

For the first time I watched Kanye West's remark concerning the Katrina Hurricane Relief efforts and I have a few comments to make about this and some other things I read in this page:

1. I agree that this event was dealt with in a less perferred timely manner that usual. I think that while the Bush administration knew that this was devastating, they had no idea of the real impact this had in the states. This could have caused them to be delayed in the process of helping the people. When this happened Pres. Bush was on vacation. He wasn't even there yet to access the states yet so he did the best he could until he got there. I mean, in some parts water 20 plus feet deep. If he sent the ships into the cities, how do you get it to the people without the risk of loosing the rescue team? Yes helicopters but with what fuel? I'm sure it cost to get back and forth to L.A.? What about the bodies floating around? They need no more toxins in the water? Duh?
This is a consequence for the war...our money was somewhere else. This hurricane was not Pres. Bush's fault. He is the only President that had the Sept. 11th and Iraq war and now this. He has had to clean up mess from other presidents and start new things but things keep happening in between which is slowing down his process. No one is willing to carry that weight of being president and few are even qualified to do it.you people act like presidents but are not. How do I know? Because your not there and havent been and some never will be. It is not because you dont have what it takes or not have the potential to become one...but...you were not elected on that path to go. This had nothing to do with his father. We have had man presidents who had no presidential parents. So it is all divine appointment. So until you sit in his seat, not your bosses seat, our you companies seat but the president seat, be quiet. Do you think that kerry would have done a better job? You see how he abandoned his former campaign crew when he ran for senator. I may not agree with everything that bush has done. I am a veteran, able to be recalled. Every move he makes is personal to me espicially because of my career, but that doesnt mean that I toss him to the wolves because I cant have my way! That is selffish. See look at your lip and your face. You're mad now! Imagine being President hearing Sept. 11th or all the dead body counts coming back....you'll be under a rock! This whole thing was unpredicted but was eventually going to happen....and it just so happened on Pres. Bush's watch.

2. When I turned on the news I was very disturbed to see so many black people on roof tops helpless. It seemes as though that was all the news footage showed. I am certain that Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and all races were involved but just as we all know L.A. is prodominantly african american populated, and in some parts, poor. When devestation hits like this all kinds of racial boundaries are violated, and people of color as usually are violated the most. Lets look at the hospital when all races are held any average day due to every day emergencies. When CNN, NBC, ABC, LMNOP showed the news coverage, it showed black people leaving the hospital last. It appeared that White people were allowed to evacuate first. Hmm? Yes the warning came for all the people to leave. Yes people do have cars, why weren't some of these people transported by buses sooner, initially when informed that this was coming? Why did it appear again that the white people were allowed to evacuate first and perhaps that is what lead to so many Black being left behind because they had no room? Be real here, we are not talking to far back of american history here in the area of discrimination, it wasn't until Clinton got in office that descrimination had to cease in the work place. the looting: If you were there you would be doing it too. If you had a 2,3,4,6,8,10 month old child, you would too! What about babies with Formula? Diapers? clothes? There are only so many clothes you can take off your own back. Yes they go into a store and grab. Grabbing all they can to survive. They are think about "me and today". They are not thinking about tommorrow because they might not make it. this is why they are "looting". They are people who never had nothing and now get something and now the are being threatened to be shot on site. Yet White folk are borrowing to bring back to the dome. What!@#@! Them whites have needs too! They have children too! those white people have family friends babies and themselves to think about too. They also are thinking about me and today because of the time. Unfortuantely, only certain people can see past the color to the need. I see it as all needing something. Why not send some cops down there to a store to supervise the shops and monitor the distribution instead of threatening the looters.

When they showed looters on the news, they showed black people this is why we all think that Blacks are looting. Then on the next few clips they show "helpless citizens who have nothing else to resort to, searching for food and clothing" tell me your impression. The camera man is sitting at a corner taking live footage of all things going on and he is not making any special edits or corrections because he wants real stuff, real footage. cnn and all the rest are going to show you it all live and uncut because they want air time, so when the cops or mayor say looters, they point out the Blacks and that is what is reported.

I dont live in L.A. the news was the closest we got here to seeing what happened....we were pretty close though statewise. When I turn on the news all i see is Blacks this and Blacks that and the comments sometimes are discouraging. It makes you really thing that perhaps something is really going on under wire that we dont know about. To the White man s/he says: It's not color, it's not that at all. people are blind. people just cant accept responsibility for their own actions....which is some cases may be true for some but not all.

From the Hispanic or Sreo: Hey man I lost family too! Yes that is true very true...all of america lost someone....this affected you. But to the Blacks who have been through this for so long this is not just a mere they havent got to me yet. no one hears the remarks being made to them. I bet no white officer is pointing their rifle at any White civilian or making them return back tothe store to give back that pask of diapers they grabbed for their child. From what I hear, cops are looting too!. If so that's a funny thing that the news didn't catch that once in a million view shot. No whites are being told to get to the back of the line I bet. For years African Americans have experienced racial profiling without excuse. You walk in the store all alarms go off. they have no idea that your the judges daughter. You apply for a job, your qualified until they see you THEN do they give you those probationary periods to see if you will make it because the odds say you won't. Alot of us were born into these kinds of circumstances because of our color. Blame God no, blame you because you had a choice to think that way. You had /have a choice to accept your thought patterns and make decisions and act on them. God is not making no one do this. This is all human self-flesh. This is all man. Mankind acting like mankind. Hating one another and abusing one another. So enough with the blame game. Blame yourself. If a black person knocked on your door would you let them in to stay know- ing their situation? What if the govt asked you to take in a family (not telling you their color) for four weeks or you go to jail 1 month, you find you out their black, would you go to jail?

Look at the thougthts that ran through your mind. See what i am talking about?

In Gods kingdom there is no color, race, or creed - your God's child Romansw 10:9-10. Start here to end racism, hate and violence.

It is infuriating that the comments by not only Kanye, but some of the media are so misdirected. This is clearly not a racial thing, but a lack of organization by the higher ups. They were not prepared for the magnitude of this disaster. The sooner peole stop playing the damn race card at every turn(including whites) the sooner we will be able to live as one nation. Stop playing the race card. Racists come in all colors. Use the brain God gave you, and look to the positive. God Bless everyone......John Reed

Wow... 379 comments .....

And George Bush still doesn't care about Black people.

What really sucks is that kanye West(a.k.a. Bitch McFaggot) got this many people to react to his comments.

It's not that big of a deal... he had his two minutes... it's over... he caused the biggest stir of his carrer and he's happy, but in 24 he'll go back to his shitty record sales and dumb lyrics that he always had.

Actually I'd donate a million dollars to the "Feel Sorry For People With Hidden Down Syndrome (a.k.a. kayne west)" Fund.

Kanye: "George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People"

America: "I wish that accident knocked your jaw clean off so you could spare us your useless music, and your laughable comments."

Good night folks,
Much love!

Where have I been for the last 7 months?

if you think that was his last good point you are as ignorant as you look.
Its not black people bush doesnt care about its poor people and yes middle class is poor in a plutacracy. So why dont you think of it in better terms if your in the thick of shit dont count on the people who have been selling you insurance.
Fuck yeah Kanye I wish everyone wasnt such drones eating there pills.

What If They Were White?
NEW YORK, Sept. 4, 2005
1. The fact that many of those suffering most in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina are poor, and black, has outraged a lot of people. Justifiably so, in the opinion of CBS News Sunday Morning Contributor Nancy Giles. Here is her commentary from Sept. 4, 2005:
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After meeting with Louisiana officials last week, Rev. Jesse Jackson said: "Many black people feel that their race, their property conditions and their voting patterns have been a factor in the response." He continued: "I'm not saying that myself."
Then I'll say it.
If the majority of the hardest hit victims of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans were white people, they would not have gone for days without food and water, forcing many to steal for mere survival.
Response: First, I want to acknowledge racism and exploitation of lower class in our society is a horrible sin of humanity. We can speculate as to what “they” would do had the majority been white people. But let us talk about what we know. New Orleans is a mostly African American including the Mayor and city government. The African American citizens and local government had a duty and failed the poor black people as much as “They”. It is common and historical practice for disaster relief to start from the local, state then fed in such order. “They” declared state of emergency for LA 2 days before the storm hit. “They” had to ask the Mayor to issue mandatory evacuation. Finally, it was issued only 24 hours before the storm hit. The storm was Cat 5 when “they” declared a state of emergency.
Their bodies would not have been left to float in putrid water.
They would have been rescued and relocated a hell of a lot faster than this. Period.
Response: Considering the scope of the disaster, I am not certain “they” and equally the local or state government could have a perfect plan, but I strongly feel there were some very basic things that would have made the situation much better.
I mean, reporters and crews are getting to stranded people, and government and military agencies can't? Why doesn't CNN run FEMA?
Response: A horrible failure on the local, state and fed level of initial communication. Once the military got there. There was not problem with communications. Within hours, our great service men and women had the dome and convention center cleared.
When I saw pictures of black people taking things from stores, my first thought was: "How are those Air Jordans necessary for your survival?"
Then it hit me: People needed shoes and clothing. Some escaped the floods with just the clothing on their backs
Response: This comment is is ludicrous! True clothing is needed for survival to a point. People w selectively broke into high-end clothing stores, and took out arm loads of merchandise. There would be no way to carry any food or water which would certainly be more important than a arm load of shoe. These action took place virtually as soon as the storm moved out of the area. There was reason to think one would need an arm load of air Jordans or any such quantity of clothing. Surely those good citizens would have only want to take what they needed for survival.
We have American citizens, not "refugees" from an underdeveloped country, still waiting for shelter.
Response: FEMA has set up and called camps “refugee camps” and referred to victims of disaster as refugee. I think brother and sisters would be best.
Waiting.
Waiting.
You leave children, pregnant women, the elderly, even the able-bodied, in a city destroyed with no help, no food, no water, no electricity for three, four, five days? What would you do if your family was starving, and you saw people dying in the street?
Question: Who is you? Are we referring also to the many African Americans who fled the city without questioning what would happen to our poor brothers and sisters. The good Mayor was taking care of poor brothers and sisters putting them in the dome when he knew as well as “they” and “We” the dome was not prepare or stocked for the looming worst case disaster.
And why didn't the stores in the disaster areas simply make their goods available to these desperate folks? Surely, they've got insurance.
Response: 1st , as many people (black and white) followed the mayor’s order to evacuated. Most store owners were not there to give out supplies. Common practice to board up and lock to prevent damage and theft (The tape does not lie. Theft took place anyway.) . Do you leave your door unlock and open in case some poor person needs some food or water? I mean you have insurance, right?
Love thy neighbor. Didn't I read that somewhere?
Response: I have heard of love thy neighbor. What about shoot at thy neighbor while he or she tries to help others.
The real war is not in Iraq, but right here in America. It's the War on Poverty, and it's a war that's been ignored and lost. An estimated 37 million Americans are living in poverty. New Orleans is one of the poorest cities in the country, with 40 percent of its children living in poverty. Mississippi has the highest poverty rate of any state. We've repeatedly given tax cuts to the wealthiest, and left our most vulnerable American citizens to basically fend for themselves.
The whole world is watching. And once again, a day late and a dollar short, words of wisdom from our president: "This is a huge task that we're dealing with." "These are tough times." "Give cash."
Response: Our economy operates on a monetary system, not bartering. It is a huge task. While he media focus is on New Orleans. The disaster impacted an area larger than Great Britain. 911 in NY was 10 blocks.
Once again, he finds the photo op: Some black folks to hug, some white men in Mississippi to bond with. He flies over the messy parts of New Orleans, waves and leaves.
Response:
White men live in MS, LA and AL. White men lost homes and lives too. Do we not care about those “white men” OMG! And dare the President not hug those black folks? What would you have said? But he did; so it was a photo op.
The president has put himself at risk by visiting the troops in Iraq, but didn't venture anywhere near the Superdome or the Convention Center, where thousands of victims, mostly black and poor, needed to see that he gave a damn.
Did Jessie Jackson go into the superdome? The New Orleans police would not go into the superdome. The President visited secure locations in Iraq and secure locations in LA. The people in the dome reported that other people were shooting and raping. love thy neighbor right?
Posted by: Wow at September 5, 2005 11:53 PM
Thanks for the Neville link that was powerful and it put the helicopter shooting into context it's funny you won't hear that explanation on the news.
Response: Please let me know why anyone would need to shoot at a helicopter. Or why people putting their lives at risk flying low level rescue would make up such a story. I think the story was confirmed by New Orleans police.
here's the link:
http://tinyurl.com/83p7f
Posted by: Kevin Merriweather at September 6, 2005 12:22 AM

response to Mr. West:
Mr. West was not there for political commentary or personal commentary. He was there to help raise “Cash” for the victims of the storm.
The tape does not lie. There was no betrayal of black people. The fact is some black and white people were carting off loads of merchandise NOT related to survival. If that hurts feelings. I am sorry. I did not see the betrayal of white vs black family. The media is very sensitive to such stereotypes. I would be the first to demand an explanation or clarification of such a bias report.
“And now they've ( the mayor, gov, and local police to “restore lawlessness” as seen on tape and reported by locals) given them (Men and Women of th United States military) permission to go down and shoot us.” - Mr. West
How dare he insinuate that our service people would arbitrarily shoot at black people. Shoot to Kill came in response to criminals having guns, shooting at citizens and rescuers. Would he prefer no military police, and allow the storm victims of New Orleans to be victimized. I think the Mayor, New Orleans Police and victims were grateful to see the military police.
The United States carries on many function through out the world which we could place blame has taken away from the recovery/relief effort from the hurricane. The United States can not take an isolationist stance in the world. Obviously, a failure of communications and preparedness on local, state and federal level lead to slow and inexcusable response. But it is obvious once the military took hold of the situation. There was no lack of resources.

Bush does not care about black people. Did Bush tell Mr. West this? Or does he stereotype Bush is an evil white man. While in the same statement, Mr. West expressed is anger of black people being stereotype as thieves. No, this is a case like the photo op thing. If Bush expresses any concern for black people, it’s a photo op.

Suggestion - to Mr. West - stick to the script.

Suggestion - for brothers and sisters of the human race. We are all guilty of neglecting the poor and elderly. We must strive to correct this.

Suggestion for politicians and Americans - After all the homeland security and report preparedness, we miserably failed when faced with a know and predicted disaster, and once again we miserably failed the least of our brothers and sisters. And we / They / black/ white / President should be held accountable.

“What so ever you do onto the least of my brother/sister, that you do unto me.”

Black people always blame everything on white people wtf do u expect. I am speaking from a minority point of view. You black people need to realize that you can't blame white people for everything. When something happend, you blame Bush and ask for donation, can't even help ur self. I feel bad for Texas, they now have bunch of homeless looking for wellfare. Those blacks will never work again because it's "Bush's fault". Grow up please.

Gooo KANYE!!!! at last people out there r speaking da truth!!! How Long was it b4 those poor people got help! dats JUST NOT ON!! Kanye Was BRave and spoke wat was on his mind!! POWER TO YOU!!!!!!! GOD BLESS

white or black kanye made a point that the whole american infostructure is flawd blame it on george bush FEMA or whatever
kanye said that george bush doesnt care about black people
and to som extent he is correct fuck blaming whit people he blamed george bush for his utter incompetents
if now isnt the time to point fingers than what are we goig to do if the shit REALY hits the broverbial fan
i think that in the next fve years we will lose our true rite to freedome of speach and after that we will lose most of the freedoms we take for granted bush is so in to war we WILL verry
likely have a draft and than we will become a third world coutry because of th debt we have with our selvs

All you Kanye haters need to take a step back, take a deep breath and switch your brains on. Kanye's speech had nothing to do with trying to promote himself or be hard. This is about his feelings, what he saw and what he thinks. His opinions. You all have your own opinions but when someone like Kanye expresses his, suddenly you all jump on that high horse of condemnation. Look at yourselves - what did you do to assist those victims. Betya nothing. If people stopped donating after Kanye said what he said - they never intended to donate anyway. One man's opinion doesn't change what you wanted to do in the first place and what was in your heart, unless you never intended to do it.

You don't seem to realise that it took a lot of courage for Kanye to go that route. He was nervous - wouldn't you be. He was emotional WOULDN'T YOU BE!!! Do any of you realise the consequences of his decision? Do you all think he just stood there and on the spur of the moment decided that's what he was going to do. No! Do you realise that as a result of this he could lose everything he has achieved in his career. The fans that buy his music and put food in his mouth, the radio and television companies that support him by airing his music. He knows this but he believed in his message with enough conviction to go through with it.

So while you are bashing him and bringing him down, first walk in his shoes. Up to that point he may not have done anyting to assit those victims, but in his yown admission he realised he has to do something. What have you done for the victims of Katrina? I'll tell you what you did - Nothing. You switched on your TV's and watched those victims holding SOS signs from thier rooftops. But you did nothing!! You did nothing!!. You did nothing!! Think about this - when the Tsunami happened you all jumped - but with Katrina in your own country - YOU DID NOTHING!!!!

As for Bush he is too busy poking his nose into other coutries business and killing innocent people instead of worrying about what's happening in his own backyard. His reaction was too slow. By the way I am not an American, have never been to America but I wept for the victims of Katrina -what would you have done if that was your mother/father/daugter/sister/brother on that rooftop. SOS What would you have done??

To SuperFunk77
It takes one Bitch McFaggot to recognise another.
Much Love

It is amusing to see that according to every right wing racist/fascist piece of trash posting on this page nothing, and I mean NOTHING, can ever, EVER, EVER, be Bush's fault. Why not? Is Bush the new messiah? Is he infallible? Everyone can question the president and ridicule him whenever they like, that is a Constitutional right. This situation is not the fault of the victims; it is Bush's fault for not sending the army sooner. Notice how once the outrage really occurred the army was there real quick and the situation solved? If the media could get in and interview the people why was the Federal government with its vast resources unable to reach these people? In fact Brown (head of FEMA) stated that the Federal government did not even know about the people at the Superdome until they were stuck there without help for days! The media and the local authorities knew the people needed help, but somehow the government with all of its aircraft and satellites did not know about these people? That is not credible. Also it is illuminating to read that race has nothing to do with this situation according to the Fascist traitors and Bush worshipers, except of course for the fact that blacks are stupid and immoral and it is their fault they were in the situation they were in, again according to our resident racist scum. To every disgrace to humanity that is posting the above described arguments for Bush and against West, please remember that you cannot have it both ways. Either race does not have anything to do with this situation, or it does. But according to the SS slime posting against West race only has to do with the situation so far as the situation can be blamed on the black race, race is involved because blacks are lazy and stupid and that is why they were in the situation they were in. However, when the concept of race is applied to Bush's response it is immediately dismissed. Bush could not possibly have been influenced by racial considerations, why it is impossible for that to have occurred is not explained. It is taken for granted that that is the case, with no evidence to back it up. In fact the evidence demonstrates that race has EVERYTHING to do with this situation, and the right knows it. As is evidenced by their use of race to justify what happened to blacks. To quote one of the above mentioned right wing traitors "You can always count on the niggers to turn any situation into a racial issue." From "Fuckingcrybabies". That statement exemplifies my point better than any argument I can make. It is never racist whites who call Black people "niggers" who turn "situations into racial issues", it is only those "niggers" who dare to try and use race to justify a point. Yet the people making this argument are using race themselves. You are all complete hypocrites. As if Bush had not stolen the 2000 election by disenfranchising all those blacks in Florida, which is not a conspiracy but a documented fact. Race has always been, and will always be an issue. Pretending racism does not exist will solve nothing. Problems are not solved by ignoring them. Problems do not just fix themselves. Reading the posts of these right wing Fascist/Racist/Traitors has convinced me of the need for all true Americans who believe in Democracy and tolerance as well as some semblance of a society that looks after the less fortunate to arm themselves (legally) with assault weapons as soon as possible. Thanks to Bush the assault weapons ban has been revoked and you just know Right Wing scum like those posting on this channel are taking advantage of it and stocking up on high powered assault weapons, so the left would be fools not too as well. And to those who think I am going to far, WAKE UP!!! These Bush supporters are not normal Republicans, they are fundamentalist fanatics who would not hesitate to kill people they knew opposed Bush. They do not believe in peace and compromise and democracy, they do not play by the rules. These people are dangerous and if you think that pieces of paper and precedent or the Federal government is going to protect you against the new American Fascist movement (aka Bush supporters) think again! This whole crisis just proves how the current regime is unlike any other in American history. The nation is split between those who have held true to the ideal of America, and those who espouse American ideals while unconditionally supporting a incompetent tyrant who according to them is above all blame and can never be questioned. Oh, and FEMA turned back Wal-Mart trucks filled with water that could have helped the suffering blacks stuck in the city. FEMA said they had enough water even though they did not. This whole response to Katrina and the subsequent lack of help to the people in New Orleans, as well as the pre-mediated media campaign against the "black looters" stinks to high heaven. In fact Bush's whole record as President stinks to high heaven, this incident is just the straw that broke the camel's back. Just because Bush is the President does not mean he is above ridicule, he is not the King of America even though many of you obviously would prefer that he was. Fuck Bush and all of his supporters who know what he is and support him anyway. To all those who support Bush out of some misguided loyalty because they believe he is working toward the greater good, WAKE UP!!! Bush is only working towards the good of himself and his close allies, at the expense of everyone one else. It is depressing that America has come to this fateful turn where we are so divided among ourselves, but that is just the way it is now, no amount of wishful thinking, slogans, or calls for unity is going to change it. It is Bush and his fascist supporters who have created this situation and divided the nation so dangerously, but we on the left and the middle have to deal with reality and realize that these bullies only respect what they fear, and that means the time has come that they fear us. What this nation needs right now is a multi-racial coalition of poor/middle class people who hate Bush to organize themselves in militant groups for DEFENSE ONLY, in order to protect our rights of free speech. Because believe me they will try to take those away eventually as well. You might think I am crazy but it is actually the Bush regime and his supporters who are crazy, they have created this crazy political environment, and really what is more crazy, my statements and beliefs or the government's response to Katrina under Bush? Enough compromise and enough searching for the middle ground, it is come to the point where it is the real Americans who believe in Freedom versus the Fascist Bush supporters who know how evil he is and support him anyway. They are saying things like they hope West dies because he ridiculed Bush. In there minds West DESERVES TO DIE JUST BECAUSE HE RIDICULED BUSH!!! Think about that for a minute and what it implies about the people who wrote it. They want to KILL EVERYONE WHO DARES SPEAK OUT AGAINST BUSH!!! THEY ARE FASCIST EVIL storm troopers!!! They also said the Mayor of N.O. should be “SHOT IN THE HEAD” FOR RIDICULING BUSH!!!! You are telling me that I am wrong for advocating defensive measures against such blatant fanatics that want to kill elected officials who dare speak against their Supreme Fascist Overlord. Fascism is the belief that people should unquestionably obey the leader and never speak against him, EVER. Any who do are to be punished severely. My calling these people fascists is not an exaggeration or just an insult, it is the truth. I for one am ready to defend myself to the death against any Bush supporter who tries to take away my Freedom of speech. In fact any piece of trash that tries it will end up in a box. Why don’t you tough talking Bush supporting cowboys come on up to NYC and teach us hippie-commie-pinko-minorities a lesson. (I am white and Irish by the way, and I am and always have been a citizen of the USA). I am sick of all your empty threats and sensationalistic rhetoric, why don’t you back it up for once. To quote your role model in life “Bring it on” But you wont will you? Because if you had the courage of your convictions you would be in Iraq right now instead of posting on the Internet. All you do is talk, you actions never back up your supposed beliefs. If you believe in Bush’s wars so much, go and fight in them. People are sick of these Bush supporters who think they can intimidate us into silence. Come shut me and all my friends up in NYC, I dare you. To everyone who hates Bush for whatever reason, we are all in this together now so we need to stick together, don’t fear the enemy, make the enemy fear you!!!

This is the first time i've ever written on a board- and it's strange how the last thought i had when i went to bed last night - was to "boycott Kanye West". His comment in regards to "George Bush not caring about Black people".
There isn't a politician I'll defend- not a one- but the issue of what who did or didn't do and to whom- was out of line at the time he said it. He was supposed to be asking everyone to help those victims of Hurricaine Katrina. This is not black vs white issue. I would have expected something like that out of Al Sharpton. I gather no one saw the MTV video awards a few nites prior to his "plea to help the hurricaine victims". At the MTV awards- he postured and posed with his big ole cigar in his mouth.... and now all of a sudden -he's some kind of racial expert. Doesn't Kanye know that the mayor of New Orleans is black? We are now in an age of a multicultural generation. I practically have the united nations in my family. That was no time to release his political opinions or agenda. The message was for all and any to send any relief they can to ALL OF THE VICTIMS- BE THEY BLACK, WHITE OR MIXED.
God bless and help all the victims- and their families who aren't there. Everyone that has kept up with what is and went on in New Orleans was or is by now aware who didn't do what to help the victims sooner- so get off your High horse Kanye.
I do recall the video Kanye did "Jesus walks"- and i thought it was great. But blacks were not the only ones persecuted. I'll boycott Kanye West from now to forever. By the way- I'm an American- and a New Yorker- and when "911" happened- EVERYONE HELPED EVERYONE!!! All politics and finger pointing isn't going to change anything. What the victims need is Help- and now. I'm doing my part. In the meantime- i'm waiting to see Kanye West go down to New Orleans and help.
And to ALL those who gave help - god bless you, and May God watch over and help all the victims.
Also- Kanye- I've been told that "Jesus" doesn't discriminate- that he loves all- and only asks that we all love one another (not pick out which race or religion we choose to love)
I'm glad to have gotten this off my chest. Back to doing what i can to helping the victims.

Ohhh man you people kill me, i would love in person to meet IRC cas this dude is on point. anyone in this country who thinks racisim did not play a part in this should move cas you dont pay attention to the state of your country. yhea, kanye west is uneducated? IRC your right love, bush cant even put a sentence togeter on his own. I think i Remember When the Dixie Chicks Said he was no Good Also. Remember? So Its Not just Us Po, lazy black folk. Its you Po trailer White People too. The Dude Is Suckin In A major way. Someone said it and iamma say it too.we can drop fuckin food in bagdad but my peeps were starving for 5 days in new orleans. And we was droppin bullets there too. What the fuck is that about. Oh and to the dummy That Said Rap Music Was Dumb And Rappers Were Just Lazy
trying to get rich of hurting our people. Shit we got tired of the whites making money hurting our people at least now our people getting paid. id Rather My Son Make A video then sell a kilo of crack that the white goverment would put him in jail for give him a felony and let him out not able to get a job so he end up in jail again. When the trailer park down the street from my hood got all the crackheads and i dont see no BLACK people Livin in it. i guess we just spose to be like sambo the good lil negro and never get mad. Well to you i say Kiss my Ass. my Greek and black ass. When my mama could get any job she wanted and my daddy had to work bullshit jobs and sell dope to make it. when i used to married to a white fuckin pothead and he got pulled over wit no l's and got a warning , and my black husband now gets pulled over and he gotta get out the car and get padded down and they quickly ask " you got anything on you" ( oh And he is a college graduated with an aa degree and served in the military) you gonna tell me this coutry aint messed up and kanye is wrong for being mad? when my mama had to make sure the land lord didnt see us cas he was a racist and wouldnt rent to us in that neighborhood if he knew she had black kids. get the fuck outta here. you blind idiots. whats wrong with you, you guys live in foo foo land. And you know whats sad , i know he didnt try for this, but all you RAP haters and Kanye Haters ....just like you did for the dixie chicks......you just help make a black man a lil bit more richer..and i thank you for that..god turns all things for the good. so keep being mad..keep saying he suck...and maybe one day he'll help yo broke ass in a flood.

that was the most ubsurd comment I have ever heard completly unfounded and untrue.. the disaster was more extreme than anyone could have predicted. I feel for everyone there but to say that the response time was slow because most of the people are black. give me a break. kanye is going crazy and looking for an excuse to lash out at the president and white people in general. its sad

and another thing does anyone honestly believe that another president would have handled this better? NOTHING LIKE THIS HAS EVER HAPPENED BEFORE!! how is anyone supposed to know what to do.. the last thing this is is some kind of racial issue.. We're all in this together.. dont forget white people live in new orleans also... im sure there are some asian and mexican people also and no one else in crying racial discrimination.. why wont kanye stand up for these people... maybe because he is the biggest racist in this issue, and that joker is'nt from new orleans..

I think Mr. West, like a lot of us was feeling frustration, due to the slow response of our nation to this tragic event. It doesn't help that the media shows ignorant people taking,things they obviously can't use ie;tv's however it also shows that we still have a long way to go with race relations in our country. The media is controlled by powerful people who are wealthy(not rich)there is a difference, and who have connections. You will only see what they allow you to see. This act by mother nature has indeed brought out the worst in some of us and the best in others both black and white but for those who acted and didn't let stories of looting and shooting stop them from helping our neighbors you are the real heros here. Not all whites are devils and not all blacks are thugs to borrow a popular phrase from the 60's NAACP Niggers Ain't Always Colored People.

FineKayne, it so funny how you assume everyone in this forum are either white or black. sorry to tell you im neither. it says it in my name. but im guess you're too dumb to see that connection.

secondly, by definition people of color cannot be racist. once again will say this "people of color cannot be racist." however they can be prejudice. but i guess you dont know the fine meaning for either terms.

so if the definition you hold true, all the black people who have asked me if i'm relative to some kung fu icon are racist, then shit your right, their racist! but i digress, because SHIT YOUR CLAIM HAS NO VALIDITY!

Oh Come on!! That was absolutely in appropriate to make those comments at that time. This has nothing to do with race!!!! Bush is an idiotic President who didn'tact quick enough or do what he was supposed to do. To say this is a racial thing is absolutely ridiculous!!!! Stop making this a racial thing and let us come together to help these people!!

bboogie -- i wish i could live in your fantasy world.

you said:
and another thing does anyone honestly believe that another president would have handled this better? NOTHING LIKE THIS HAS EVER HAPPENED BEFORE!! how is anyone supposed to know what to do..

THATS WHAT FEMA AND THE DEPT. OF HOMELAND SECURITY GETS PAID TO DO YOU IDIOT. As has been reported in numerous places, the doomsday scenario has been written up multiple times. The AFTERMATH of what happened in NO is unprecedented. You honestly believe that the ONLY feasible response to what happened there was the slow and incompetent display we all saw last week? Wow, I hope the "evildoers" that Bush likes to refer to don't attack us anytime soon. Because we're all f--ked.

you said:
the last thing this is is some kind of racial issue.. We're all in this together.. dont forget white people live in new orleans also... im sure there are some asian and mexican people also and no one else in crying racial discrimination..

OK...so you're either extremely naive or just haven't been watching the same news coverage I have. No one is saying ONLY black people were left stranded. What happended in NO is a result of RACE and CLASS issues which you obviously fail to recognize. I dont have the official stats handy but NO was approx. 65% black. And that majority was very evident in the people I saw in the Superdome and walking the streets in NO.

you said:
why wont kanye stand up for these people... maybe because he is the biggest racist in this issue, and that joker is'nt from new orleans..

uh...OK. again, please send me some of the drugs youre taking.

I am so sick and tired of people playing the race card when something bad happens. First of all Kayne you need to get your crap straight. The mayor of New Orleans waited 40 hours to sign the paper work in order for the National Guard and Fema to begin their way into New Orleans. You might wanna take a look at YOUR own people Mr Nagin and the Govenor of Louisiana. His comment was uncalled for and a disgrance to all of Mankind. If Mr. Bush didnt care about black people why is Condolezza Rice the secretary of state? Stop blaming white people for bad things that happen and making the situation worse by your racisist comments. His comments did nothing but make himself look like an idiot.

Why are we always talking about the "conspiracy" of white people trying to give black folks a bad name ? We are doing it to ourselves, don't you get it ? The fact is, we are looting from our own people and shooting at each other and it's not the first or last time. In many poor countries people would be helping each other, whereas we always find reasons to take advantage of a situation, turn to crime, and then blame someone else. Take responsibility and have honour.
As for Kayne, he's a disgrace. It always pisses me off to see ignorant blacks speak in my name. We're doing a good job hurting our reputation without anyone's help, thanks Kayne.

George Bush doesn't care about black people?
What did you expect? Welcome to America.

These hurricane victims were on welfare, living in the project, eating up all the hard working people's taxes, walking around like they are the ultimate victims of the world, all about themselves, all before the harricane.
Now with the harricane destraction, they want MORE? They always find ways to make themselves look victimized. I am talking about black people! Always unhappy. I know it's not imaginable how they suffered in the past with slavery and stuff, but I am sooooo sick of seeing them acting like they want you to synpathize. I am talking about black people!

The harricane tragedy was horrible. But these victims most likely either didn't vote or voted for Bush and supported war.
These are the people who complained when the world turned to Asia to help when Tsunami happened but didn't help people in the Carribeans last year, but THEY(Black people) didn't do anything to help anyway.

It looks like America is being panished. But damage is minimal when all the victims are black people.

I have been hearing and reading what many Americans of all backgrounds have been saying about Kanye's remarks. It is interesting to note that Bush's policies have never favored minorities in this country. Like his father before him, and Reagan before him, Bush is yet another racist Republican in a long history of perpetuators of right wing ideology in AmeriKKKan leadership. This country was founded on racist principles, and Kanye calling out the leader of this country for being racist in hardly ground-breaking news. Anyone who takes a look at Bush's record as President will see anti-black, anti-poor, anti-minority policy throughout. I don't even have to mention his legacy as the Governor of Texas where he set an ALL-TIME RECORD for KILLING blacks via capital punishment than ANY OTHER GOVERNOR IN HISTORY! This was at a time when many states had passed a moritorium on the death penalty in light of new DNA testing which had exonerated several convicted blacks. Bush did not stop the senseless legal murder of blacks who may have been proven innocent by DNA testing. This is why Kanye's statement rang true. He said what America is afraid to say. He told it like it is at a time when NOBODY wants to acknowlege that the leader of the free world has no love for poor, lower-class black people.

***I am not black*** but I am a minority class in this country. I would have to say that my eyes are being opened by many of the posts I have read on this site. I am completely disgusted at Kanye's attempt for publicity, and I believe that is what it is. If he had all the facts he would not have made those comments. If he had all the facts and still made those comments then he is a liar. All his supporters are blind at the damage this is doing in the face of all the progress this country has made. Despite any decisions Bush has made that I might disagree with I have never felt he does not care for all races.
***I would like to be proved wrong on my next comment.***
What I do feel however is that many of the posts on this site are people who only care about black people and no other race. Please prove me wrong.

Kanye is a smart black businessman who kicked down the doors in this attempt to make the obvious public. In this moment he didn't care what his album sales were about to be like or what white people would think of him. He decided to air his opinions about the situation.

He was like that is not how I feel. The guy goes on to this show and was obviously disturbed by the photos. To the people who say Kanye is a disgrace, I say he is probably one of the only real voices out there that doesn't sound like a preacher voice reaching millions of young men and women. He is very conscious of what he has doen and doesn't care. See the Jesus Walks lyrics. He didn't care about album sales then. why would he care now?

To the idiots that say that the Bush administration worked as fast as they possibly could in this situation, BULL!!!

We reacted much faster to 9/11 where we knew that there were very few survivors, than we did to this New Orleasn tragedy where knew that people were alive and kicking. This is a huge country and there are many AFBs in the area thatcould've taken their choppers there to help and that should've been done.

Please look at the TVs, they are dropping food and water bottles in DISEASED and INFECTED WATER!!!! The people who open the bottles and drink directly from them could fall victim to disease and die!!! Would wealthier white people be subject to this also? You answer the question. The only white people that were there were those caring for others, the few poor white people, and the dumb ones trying to protect their property that should've been insured against these situations anyway.

The idiots that are looting are thinking of survival. And in any situation such as the one that has occurred, many people lose their minds and have started doing stupid stuff, such as stealing TVs when there is no electricity, committing suicide, believing that the world is aainst you or that you need a gun to survive in a tragedy situation. Yes, there are some idiots down there. The media showing and saying these thing over and over again makes people not want to donate money.

The thing that the guy mentioned earlier these people have been on welfare ought to be trying to give money to their people. That's the most racist, prejudice and dumbest thing I ever heard. All black people are NOT on welfare. We all pay for welfare even the people that are receiving the welfare are losing money to welfare. Many blacks have given to the causes you idiot!!! We just don't look for the recogniction as the white people do. What do you want us to do, just go out and say, "Hey I'm a black person that was able to give money to a lot of people that could make it out of New Orleans because they are on welfare and I want to let everybody in the world know so that they would think I was a nice guy!!" You are a total stranger to this world sir or mam.

By the way , did HOT97 make the Hurricane Song??
I think they should. Especially if they claim to not be racists.

People who think that the Bush adminstration hates blacks are ignorant and uneducated. This disaster is the largest in the history of the United States. There is no "plan" on file for evacuating an entire city. Since there is no plan, there is no funding available for such an evacuation. Which means the problem has to be evaluated, a plan has to be drawn up for the evac and funding has to be agreed on. This takes time. And when has the federal government be quick to respond to anything? If your mad about the disaster donate some time or money. Otherwise shut your cake holes.

I think Kanye is a great rapper/entertainer, but as far as understanding the purpose of why he was on TV, that's where he needs some help. Saying George Bush doesn't care about black people is moronic. Anyone who thinks that was appropriate is just as naive. I am black and I am honestly offended by his comments. Look at it this way, no matter what the government did, given the completely catastrophic conditions, the government organizations were screwed; try to rescue people from drowning in their attics (THAT'S CALLED IMMEDIATE DANGER) and put off the evacuees in the Superdome and convention center, they're racist for ignoring the high concentration of African Americans. Put off the people drowning in their attics; then they're cold blooded PR fixated whores.
Personally, the minute Mayor Nagin was on air screaming about "no more press conferences" and "we need help", I think he should have stepped down and let some one with a cool head take over. Not that he's the most original example, but, in a time of crisis, I think Rudy Guiliani handled the attacks on NYC the proper way, not too emotional, not too far removed from emotion.
I thought that Governor Blanco, in over her head no doubt, handled things as well as she could. I mean for the love of god, you can only plan so much for this type of thing. Disaster models are great on paper, but often fall short in practice. There are way too many variables to take into account (travel routes, evacuation routes, etc.). The last thing anyone needs is to send a rescue team to rescue a rescue team.
I think the looters stealing food, diapers, and what not, are completely in the right, I would do the same thing. The people I want to see hunted down are the idiots who looted sneakers and Plasma Tv's and X-Boxes. What are they going to do with those? Absolute morons. If they were really shooting at rescue helicopters then I say let's fry them.

There was nil communication, but instead of planting the seed of hope, it appears that New Orleans Leadership decided to side with the masses and say, "It's Bush's fault, it's FEMA's fault anyone's but my fault." "Sideline Leaders" like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are just using a bad situation to push their political agendas on the general public. Kanye has officially become a puppet for them.
This was failure at a national level, but it starts with the ignorance of the local government. They Gambled with those levees and lost, but you guys are right, let's blame Bush...it's easier to shirk the accountability and responsibility of where the problem really started.

NotWhite, I am able to say that you may be correct but I live in Texas and I know the South like the back of my hand. The Bush family is from Texas and they are from a small town in Texas. All states are not the literal free and equal as they make them out to be. Pleas visit the small towns and plantations of Lousiana that are being kept up because they are "Landmarks". This is not a new thing. Please be sure to read between the lines on certain issues.

I have nothing against Bush most of the time but the white world need to stop being so selfish and trying to speak on the behalf of black people. I would love to see more black people on these news networks reporting and giving their opinions on things besides the preachers all of the time. We have other political voices out there that give reasonable and educated opinions on things. They continue to tread toward Jess Jackson and Al Sharpton types for representation of a Black person's view as they did with the Kanye West incident. We didn't elect Jesse or Al to any public office. The media did. A lot of educated black people and minorities are out there but they are not given the air time. Even in times when the minorities are the main ones involved there are white people only on these News TV and Radio shows. Do they believe their audience will be affected by a different color figure on the network or someone with a little more bass in their voice? You Decide.

MikeP, please PLEASE go and try to walk through the streets full of dead people floating on water for five days straight in the town that you run and try to keep it straight. The people were dying by the thousands each day that the government wasted away.

The 9/11 attacks were totally different. They were all focused in one area and most people were already either dead or barely hanging on... Bush answered in two days.
In Hurricane Katrina, a huge city was involved and Bush decided to come and walk the streets of Alabama and Mississippi, while only flying around the New Orleans area FOUR DAYS later. The guy didn't even show them the time of day.

Then their governor is dumb as hell saying that she still needed 24 hours after finally meeting with Bush (after the first four days) to decide on how they should approach the issue? What kinda crap is that? Oh and she just so happens to be a female... Not to say that females can't make up their minds be this one apparently can not.

If everyone could please stop trying to make similarity comparisons between New Orleans and 911. These two events are completely different as are the people and groups involved. First huge difference, 911 was an attack on US soil and New Orleans was a natural disaster. Second obvious difference, the New Orleans disaster is on a much larger scale. Third obvious difference, there were no people to rescue in 911, New Orleans requires that thousands of people be rescued over miles of territory. There is no way to make a logical conclusion about current events in New Orleans based on the events of 911.

John B., that type of logic is about as sound as the levees of Lake Ponchatrain. Bush declared the state of emergency before the hurricane hit. It seemed like New Orleans emerged relatively unscathed, then the levees broke. I understand that you want to lay everything on someone, but, in this circumstance, Bush isn't the guy.
Nagin lost his cool and walking the streets seeing his community dead can do that, but a leader shouldn't get on TV and freak out, think about what that does to the people who rely on him. It causes a snowball effect with regards to panic.
The bottom line is that thousands are dead already, and many more will die. Concentrated area or widespread, what makes a true leader is some one who can keep a cool head in times like this. As for Bush not landing in New Orleans, can you blame him? It has been reported that people are shooting at rescue helicopters, could you imagine what they would do to him if he tried to land anywhere near New Orleans? He'll go there when it's safe for a world leader to be there.
To hear you tell it, John B., everyone is an idiot. Everyone except the people who are stuck in New Orleans. 24 hours is not a lot of time to take to come up with a plan of action, especially one of this magnitude. I don't care how many times you draw up worst case scenarios in a conference room, even the best laid plans oft go awry.
It's time for people to stop being so reactionary, and start getting proactive. They'll be plenty of time to blame people during the rebuilding period.

This disaster could have even been avoided.
The area surrounding the mouth of Mississippi river and the entire coast area is designed by nature to be submerged under water when it rains a lot. A lot of the area is below sea level.
Most people know that. The country should have done something about it before this happened, if it's going to allow people to live in the area. So I guess government didn't do anything knowing the fact that people are living on a dangerously conditioned land. This IS America's fault.
Enough with race thing.

thank you kanye. when people hear the truth that gets e'm mad. but it's true. he dosen't, and time will tell. i don't blame him for telling the truth.

I think it is sad that people who are pro-bush no matter what, pro-conservative no matter what cannot seem to see the cost in human lives. Granted, the people stranded in New Orleans are predominantly black and predominantly poor. The ignorant and blind use that as specious foundation for arguments that this is a "black" problem and "they" should have known to get out anyway. Or they try to state that this is not racial. Of course it is racial. Why are so many mimorities poor? How do poor people leave? What if they don't have cars, or money to stay in a hotel, or money for gas, or family to keep them in another state? Why are so many people of all colors and ethnicities poor in our country? Why is it that the richest country in the world, bar none; the greatest super-power (at least we were) has a 12% poverty rate, is embroiled in an ill-fated, foolish war that is not being fought by the children of our rich and now that we have citizens of our country dying and living in hell on earth, we call them "refugees" and debate whether or not they are "good" blacks or "bad" blacks (I guess good means the one who are suffering and dying quietly and bad is the ones who are shooting and looting and generally behaving all uncivilized). There are some here who question the need for our government to be organized and effective in the rescue of our own citizens. Some who think it is not a duty and function from our leaders that we can expect as Americans? Some who actually present the argument that anyone exercising their first ammendment right whenever and wherever they can are "stopping people from donating"?! Please. Spare me all the hateful rhetoric, the fact is and time will show, Katrina blew away more than some poor black people's lives. If there is anything good that will come of this, it will require that we look hard and long at all the filth hiding behind halo's right here in the USA.

thass rite kanye u tell em how it is man bush hates all out black asian god damn he hates n e 1 hu aint white!!!

whuneluv

Someone made a comment about Condi. And how Bush can't be racist because of the members in his cabinet. Well, how much does Condi care about her own people. New Yorkers pretty much sent her packing back to washington after spotting her at a department store in New York looking at hand bags, it was the customers who kindly reminded Ms. Rice of the situations going down south. But the finally straw came from Ms. Rice attending a Broadway show, I guess someone announced her as if anyone would be please to know she was sitting enjoying a show. Once more she was booed!!! Whats up with that!!! This just goes to show me that regardless of color, everything Bush touches turns insensitive!! I mean come on?? If I ever here someone hail bush, I will have to back slap there ass!! this is the second time he did nothing but shit on people who are in need of help! Regardless of the looters and what was neccasary to steal and what wasn'tm the point being why we couldn't get people out there quick enough that these people woudn't have to steal as a means of survival. This should never have happened to our people. And regardless of the real reason for bushs belated response, he just added to the reason soo many New Yorkers never voted for him!! HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE MONDAY AFTERNOON!!!!!!

GO KANYE!!! It's about time black people stop being scared and call these officials on their racist actions.

Because of Bush's and the government's blatant disregard for one race, it caused the deaths of thousands of blacks, whites, hispanics, etc.

FEMA's and Homeland Security, whose existence is for situations like this, has failed us. Someone needs to go!

GO KANYE!!! It's about time black people stop being scared and call these officials on their racist actions.

Because of Bush's and the government's blatant disregard for one race, it caused the deaths of thousands of blacks, whites, hispanics, etc.

FEMA's and Homeland Security, whose existence is for situations like this, has failed us. Someone needs to go!

MikeP, Boycottkanye,

It's ignorant azz blacks like you that make it alright for the government to react slowly like they did.

Until BLACK people speak out against racial inequalities, we are going to continue to be craped on like we have in the past, and continue to be.

You think they would have showed a bunch of rich white people standing around in dirty, animal infested, feces infested water up to their knecks????

You call Kanye ignorant, but doesn't the constitution grant him that right.

WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO TAKE THAT RIGHT AWAY FROM HIM.

You two sound ignorant! If you agree give me a **at the end of your comment.

...and please contact me if you have anything that you want to personnally say to me.

Thank you

Hey Terri:

Your comments were well thought out, emotional, and full of POOP. Thank you for caring that much about America... from a far. The best way for you to help america is to blow your brains out. If all your mind can produce is crap then just flush it down...

Much Love
SuperFunk77

Kanye said what a LOT of people (black, white, otherwise) were thinking, but there's a time and a place and during a call for donations was NOT the time or the place. He comprised the level of donations and probably hurt relief efforts as I'm sure people were too shocked and upset to call in and donate. He also took a debate that did need to be brought up and brought it to a level that is designed only to incite hatred and mistrust rather than constructive discussion. For the most part, I agree with his stance, but because of where and how he brought it up, I think he's an ignorant, little person.

Yeah "Bush hates blacks" - what a cop out. Guess that's why he hired Condolezza Rice and Colin Powell. What fools. West is no class act, and needs to stick to doing what he can to help instead pointing fingers. A lot of good that will do. Sad. He is the biggest racist of all.

Kanye West sounded like an ignorant idiot. He is the type of scum that makes everything a racial issue. He should stop talking crap about what he knows nothing about.

Kanye West is finished, he will soon join Sinead O'Conner in the Loser Hall of Fame. HAHAHA

Those who constantly cry "racism" are weak and full of self pitty. Stop crying and do something with your life. There is racism against many nationalities not just black people. Those who constantly focus on it, only give excuses for their shortcomings. I don't cry and complain when viewed as a refugee spic.
***for those that take my comments as racist...get a life and get over it***

check this link out.. http://carmige.com/blog/2005/09/oh_no_he_didnt_1.php

Jay, I was gonna email it to u.. but since ur at 400+ responses on this I figure ur email is going off the charts right now.

Andrea, contrary to popular belief, this is not a race issue. This is preparedness issue. I think that what Kanye said was stupid and inappropriate given the goal of the telethon. That was not the place for a racial inequality statement.
There are white people sitting around in filthy New Orleans, some are still trapped in their houses as well. I don't think anything I said was worthy of being called an ignorant black person. Can you justify looting sneakers, TVs and electronics?
I certainly never said anything about the first amendment rights of Kanye West.

Also, I have no interest in contacting you directly...as I am not looking for a cyber relationship through blackplanet.com. I have some friends whom might be interested in exhanging e-mails with you, if that what's your looking for. I'm not really sure why you would want people to e-mail you for any other reason.
But Andrea, you go on. Keep placing the blame in the wrong areas, your comments here are the types of statements that will set us (African Americans) back another 50 years.
I think too many of us are trying to take the easy way out by laying all the guilt and blame on others. Mistakes were made, by EVERYONE from evacuees to the President. Instead of making this a human being issue, some of us want to make it a struggle of color. You tell me who the ignorant ones are.

Kayne West is a racist idiot. But most rappers are anyway so whats new?

YEAH IT WAS SORTA UNCALLED FOR AT THE TIME, BUT SOMEONE HAS TO DO IT!!! GO KANYE! I LOVE YOUR CD!

He now joins the club with Susan Sarandon, Sean Penn, and others whos career will hopefully go down the toilet.

I voted for Kerry, by the way.

OH BY THE WAY....FREEDOM OF SPEECH...WELL UP UNTIL THE PERSON IN CHARGE...CUTS YOU OFF...AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO SAID IT MADE YOU NOT WANT TO DONATE...JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU LET OTHERS OPINION OVER POWER YOUR OWN...HAVE SOME DIGINITY!

What a damn moron... nice job kanye, way to make yourself look even more like a jackass... the awards ceremony wasnt enough, u had to go make yourself look ignorant again.. maybe kanye should stick to his samplin machine and leave thinkin to the people that are supposed to be doin the thinkin. by the way i dont like bush but the response has nothing to do with him if anyone took the time to notice.. disasters are supposed to be taken care of by global response teams that have nothing to do with our government.. how the fact that the global disaster response team couldnt get a team together fast enough has anything to do with "george bush not liking us black people" is beyond me. kanye, your job is to make music. shut the hell up. dont make the rest of us look foolish.

KANYE for PRESIDENT! What a proud moment! That took so much strength. What we have seen over the past few days has been a national DISGRACE and I was happy someone as visable as Kanye speak out on what is REALLY going on.

What Kanye said was not selfish or any way to promote himself - his lack of speaking skills was not due to ignorance but more so because of the passion, anger and rage he was feeling. Of course Mr. Bush dont give a f*&* about black people or any minority for that matter. He is too busy making sure the rich get richer (and by rich - i mean campaign contributors etc.) Please - Kanye selfish!!!??? What about the president of this country???

Wow, I find it very interesting that all of a sudden a black man is representing all Americans. In 2005, I don't think so. If Kanye didn't speak up when he did. When would he have had the opportunity. No it was not scripted or planned, but Kanye spoke from his heart. It is sad to see that Americans would rather hear a script from tv writers than real perspectives and emotions. Kanye took whatever immediate opportunity to express his perspective to the mass public. Are we so naive that we need filters of someone's view. Are we so tempramental that one person's perspective will influence us from doing what is right? This situation is much bigger than Kanye. Mass media coverage has been skewed and inaccurate in somecases. They have repeatedly showed the helicopter dropping the same sand bag in the levy. I saw the same dead man's body on six news channels. I have also heard interviews of the governor of Louisianna full of emotion. Was she blasted for being emotional. Finally, the government is suppose to represent the people and protect them. Because we are a democracy and the underlying premise is that the fortunate help the less fortunate. So for the person who said that the people should have gotten out when the warning was announced, be for real.If they had no means then it becomes the responsibility of the government to get them out!!!

first of my deepest of sympathy for all those touched by katrina,my heart ached when I saw the images and brought me to tears , I hope that Life and Self will bring all the survivors Hope and Love to continue there path on planet Earth.

I've been reading a few posts and saw the segment of kanye..I saw outrage and dissapointment in his eyes, and at the time he translated that the way he felt fit. Tact or not it was the most honest piece of American broadcasting I've seen since well... ever.

He makes a sick , and disturbingly good point.

As a Afro-european seeing the forces of nature destroying a city 24 times the size that of amsterdam my own town , I felt a big pain. The pain quickly turned to outrage after a day or six, because of 2 things which are just cold hard facts.

1)the reaction speed of the mighty United states was TO SLOW. period.

if you can takeover a country in not even a 72 hour perioud , with bases popping up from one side of iraq to another, then yes congratulations on your amazing behemoth of a war machinery ..

a state around the corner though.....

it hurts to see people being less than product and profit (oil)

2) The depiction of the victims in new orleans by the media was dreadfull BUT had a core of truth.

Face it : Capitalistic USA is built on a perverted almost darwinian principle, which is strange for a so called christian country. just replace "survival of the fittest" with richest and lower species with the minorities and you get the point. looting versus finding, etc etc..

I've seen people arguing about that: you didn't have to take nikes and plasma tv's and other items but the way I see it, Education and budget spending , the way of living/ eating if you don't have any money in the america , #1 top selling videogames in the U.S. involving a black man/hero(?) making havoc in "San Andreas", #1 hit records of black people advocating "yes crime does pay, get you fame and money and a beatiful gas slurping vehicle" and other factors over a 400/600 year timeline,and you have the perfect behemoth of an image and brainwashing machine as well, keeping people dumb and consuming at the same time.ALL THE TIME

No. This isn't just the "it's all the white massa's fault" tripe either. To think that in 2005 is just stupid, and to not see wolves amidst ourselves is ignorant too. the afro culture and way of life has been working on our own destruction just as hard unfortunatly.

maybe kanye said something right but just in the wrong way.

Bush doesn't care about black people.

good.

Bush doesn't care about poor people.

better.

The Capitalism System cares for Profit,Product,Lobbyists and Corporations. trained Consumers are expendable because they are easily produced.. we trained them that way...

Best: but let's be honest that is being said by antropologists and sociologolists for years. but that doesn't spark as many talk and discussion as when a well known artist uses his emotion to say it on a nationwide broadcast.

I thank his Heart for making the decision he made. it could ultimately change the world as we know it.

Change the planet!!! This tragedy will find us all over the world helping you!!!!

TILL ALL ARE ONE.

Why don't we let Kanye lead the relief efforts? I'm sure he wouldn't mind taking a break from promoting Late Registration and being in charge of tens of thousands of refugees. I agree with dl that Kanye needs to use his influence to encourage blacks to help each other, instead of encouraging passing the buck. I do not agree with RachelS saying how "brave" his comment was. With the new album out, I would figure his audience is predominantly black and his statements would only boost sales, not hinder them. I don't think he'll miss all of the middle-age white guys driving home to their wives and children saying "Well, gollygee, I certainly won't be buying Late Registration anymore!" Hate to say it, but I will have to stop buying his albums and put my money to better use.

It is amazing that people like Kanye blame everything on race. Racism is never going to go away with people like him accusing others of being racists so freely It was shelfish of Kanye to take up time that he should be asking people for money to help the victims of katrina. I think it is not right that you people support someone like that you are contributing to keeping racism alive. I think he cd, concerts and merchandise should be boycotted I for one will never help put a cent in his pocket.

FORMER KANYE WEST FAN!!!!

Kanye just want sell more record. He is using Eminem strategy. Talk sh1t for publicity.

kanye i appriciated folk

TO NINO -

Kanye's comments should not have had an impact on your wanting to donate or not. You see for yourself what’s going on there. You donate from the heart not from a comment of what someone has made because they are on the program. It wasn’t a commercial trying to sell their product.

Whoever said Kanye is trying to sell more records OBVIOUSLY don't know that Kanye's records has been selling way before the comment.
And please! Kanye and Eminem have nothing in common beside being rappers.

wow..... kanye west is an imbecile... if he wanted to go off on some ignorant rant he shouldhave put it on CD. that telethon was no place for this retarded remarks. he sounded like a 10 year old reciting something far beyond his understanding. yes, bush "don't" care about black people... the same bush who has condoleeza rice and had colin powell in his administration.... Kanye copped out using race as an excuse for why help hadn't yet arrived. He should have his mouth re-wired to keep him from popping off at the mouth again. I believe he has the right to freedom of speech but i don't think that he should have made those comments at that time. it was selfish because instead of people calling in to donate money, the lines were flooded with complaints to NBC.... nice going, moron.

FOR EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT REALIZE IT, WE ARE LIVING IN A VERY RACIST, AND PREJUDICE WORLD. A WORLD THAT WILL VERY SOON BE DIVIDED INTO THE HAVES AND THE HAVE NOTS. MOST PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD RIGHT NOW ARE HAVE NOTS. FOR SOME, THEY ARE HAVE NOTS FROM THEIR OWN DECISION MAKING IN LIFE AND JUST F@#$ING LAZY. OTHERS WERE JUST NOT FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE BORN INTO WEALTH AND WORKING JUST TO SURVIVE. IF THESE VICTIMS WERE AMERICAN DECISION MAKING PEOPLE, OR EVEN WEALTHY PEOPLE WE WOULD NOT BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AT ALL. I WISH KANYE HAD NOT SET HIMSELF UP FOR SUCH NEGATIVE RIDICULE BECAUSE I CONSIDER HIM AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL MALE AND HIS DELIVERY WAS THROUGH EMOTION AND WAS NOT TACTFUL AT ALL. EVERYONE WHO IS ACTUALLY ON THIS PLANET CAN RECOGNIZE THAT ALL RACES HAVE STEREOTYPES THAT WE ALL HAVE HEARD,THOUGHT OF, OR EVEN USED. BUT NO RACE GETS THAT MOST OVERWHELMING RESPONSE OF NEGATIVITY AS BLACKS.IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL, WE ARE DRUG DEALERS,ATHLETES,OR ENTERTAINERS ONLY (NOT TRUE). THOSE ARE THE ONLY PROFESSIONS THAT COME TO MIND AND I AM SO SORRY TO SAY THAT AS BLACK PEOPLE WE ALSO BRING THINGS ON OURSELVES AND HOLD DOWN EACH OTHER. THE MAN STEALING THE TV (WHAT THE HELL IS HE DOING WITH A TV WITH NO ELECTRICITY), AND THE MAN WITH THE BUCKET OF BEER WERE ONLY PUBLICIZED TO CONFIRM STEREOTYPES AND INSPIRE NEGATIVE THOUGHTS OF BLACKS IN OTHERS. THESE FEW INSTANCES OF IGNORANCE WERE USED TO REPRESENT ALL POOR BLACK AMERICANS. BUT I AM PRETTY SURE THERE WERE PLENTY HEROIC EVENTS THAT COULD HAVE ALSO BEEN PUBLICIZED IMPLEMENTED BY POOR BLACKS. IS RACISM A PROBLEM? HELL YEAH, BUT SOCIAL CLASS IS A BIGGER ONE. THERE ARE POOR RACES OF PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD. THE POOR WHITE ONES WERE RIGHT WITH THE POOR BLACK ONES SEEKING HELP. THESE TYPES OF TRAGEDIES OPEN EYES TO HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY LIVE IN POVERTY EVERYDAY. PEOPLE IN AMERICA NEED TO SOON REALIZE THAT THIS RACISM SHIT IS PETTY AND THE NEW PROBLEM WILL BE RICH VS POOR WITH NO MORE IN BETWEEN JUST WATCH AND SEE! THESE PEOPLE NEED HELP AND EVERY ABLE BODY SHOULD AT LEAST CONTRIBUTE SOME PART OF THEMSELVES. NO ONE KNOWS WHAT TRAGEDY WILL AFFECT THEM, AND JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED HELP TODAY DON'T MEAN YOU WONT NEED IT TOMMORROW.

chi-STAND UP

Kanye West is a complete retard and probably put more fuel on the racism fire! Anyone like him or that is a fan of his can leave America immediatley and live in a shack in the middle of Canada where no racists or anyone with a brain will have to him or his people!

Kanye West is a complete retard and probably put more fuel on the racism fire! Anyone like him or that is a fan of his can leave America immediatley and live in a shack in the middle of Canada where no racists or anyone with a brain will have to talk to him or his people!

ALSO: A COMMENT ON COLIN POWELL AND CONDOLEEZA RICE, THEY ARE PROFESSIONAL, TOP POSITION HOLDING AFRICAN AMERICANS AND BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT BEING ALL RADICAL AND SHIT THEY ARE BUSH'S TOKEN BLACK NIGGAS. I DON'T KNOW THEIR RELATIONSHIPS THEY HAVE WITH EACH OTHER BUT I AM PROUD TO SEE THEY HOLD SUCH PRESTIGIOUS POSITIONS (HOPEFULLY THEY WERE CHOSEN THROUGH THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS). I ALSO KNOW THAT US BLACK PEOPLE ARE RACIST WITH EACH OTHER BECAUSE IF YOU ARE ACTING PROFESSIONAL, AND SPEAKING WITH SOME FORM OF GRAMMAR, OH "YOU ARE ACTING WHITE." WE ARE SO DAMN BRAINWASHED. I DO NOT KNOW IF GEORGE BUSH CARES ABOUT BLACKS. BUT HE DEFINITELY CARES TO CATER TO THE RICH AND HE NOT TO FOND OF POOR BLACKS OR POOR WHITES.

I HAD TO SAY IT,IM THRU

What he said may be his passion, but wrong place to express it. Someone dropped the ball on getting people (all people) help. I understand the frustration with that. What bothered me was him saying that they were given permisson to shoot us. It didn't matter if it was a black, white, asian, mexican, puerto rican people that shot at the police or the amry crew of engineers, they deserved return fire. It just happend they were black. How can you justify shooting at people there to serve and protect. Check your facts dickhead and if Kayne can justify shooting at a law inforcement official or someone just there to help I would love to hear it. Those assholes got what was coming to them

I drank a Hawaiian Punch Light earlier...WTF it doesn't even resemble Hawaiian Punch. Your thoughts?

Oh yeah, Fuck Kanye!

to Rysey:

America needs more people like you in it... God Bless!

Niggers always cry "racism" when something doesnt go their way. No other race or ethnicity complains and cries like the blacks. They turned a hurricane into a racial issue yet again. I bet the blacks wouldn't give a fuck if it was a white city being flooded and impoverished for days. Blacks need to get over the fact that everything aint all about them all the time. I bet they think the whites sent them the hurricane too. Give me a fucking break. We should all be uniting now, not listening to that dumb piece of shit kanye west adding racial fuel to the fire. What was the point? His opinions don't change anything. I wish Bush would get on TV and just finally say "YOU'RE RIGHT-I HATE THE NIGGERS..AND WHAT?" Would that shut em up? Probably not. I work my ass off everyday, pay taxes, donate to the hurricane relief, and this is the bullshit i hear. The blacks blaming the whites. If the blacks dont like it, they should go live in another fucking country if they think they'll be catered to like they are here. good luck. aint gonna happen. blacks have always been and always will be more racist against the whites than the whites are against them. It's disgusting. I hope someone kicks the shit out of Kanye. Mr ALL TALK NO ACTION. i dont see his sorry ass on the ground helping. Fuck him and the rest of you crybabies who blame everything on race. Grow up and get jobs.

KANYE really, you look and sound like a fool go back to Afica you have enough money now. And you wont have to see the LAZY, POOR "darkies" die!!!

TO "CRACKER" YOU ARE SO DAMN STUPID, CHILDISH, AND IGNORANT YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO HAVE AN OPINION. YOU SHOULD HAVE KEPT THAT DUMB ASS COMMENT TO YOURSELF. YOU CAN'T COMMENT ON KANYE'S STATEMENT BECAUSE YOU ARE AN EXAMPLE THAT EXEMPLIFIES JUST WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO SAY. YOU ARE SUCH A DICKHEAD!

Kayne West needs to go back to college with Tommy lee. Im amazed that he can rap but can barely speak. Go back to africa and beat on some drums you vulgar and irrogant black fuck!!!!

one nigger is just like the rest of them niggers, get you act together. Slavery is over. Its time to get off the porch and get a jobby job treeswingers.

Sincerely,

Kayne West's Manager (Stimey)

HOW MANY OF YOU PEOPLE WHO POST SOMETHING ON THESE SITE ARE MINORITIES? NOT VERY MANY OF YOU BECAUSE MINORITIES HAVE NO MONEY TO AFFORD THE INTERNET OR A COMPUTER. WHAT KANYE WEST SAID ON THE AIR WAS REFRESHING TO ME BECAUSE I CAN RELATE TO BEING ATTENDED TO AFTER THE WHITE AMERICANS, BUSH DOES NOT "HATE" BLACK PEOPLE, BUT HE SURE IS SHOWING THAT HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THEM. I LIVE IN LAKE WALES, FL. THE MEETING POINT OF HURRICANE CHARLIE AND THE OTHER TWO, "PRESIDENT" BUSH CAME TO LAKE WALES. FOR 13 MINUTES DAMMIT. HE CAME HERE TO TRY AND STEAL SOME VOTES WHILE HE COULD. LAKE WALES IS A PRIMARILY BLACK CITY. AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT SAY THAT BUSH HAS 2 BLACK PEOPLE IN OFFICE, COME BE SERIOUS, HOW BLACK DO YOU THINK THEY ARE? CONDOLEEZA AND COLIN, YUP, VERY BLACK. ALL YOU PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR THAT IDIOT, CONGRATULATIONS, I HOPE YOU ARE PROUD.

P.S. FOR EVERYONE WHO SAID IT IS NOT BUSH'S FAULT FOR NOT RESPONDING TO KATRINA IN A MORE TIMELY MANNER, WHY ISN'T IT? I HEARD SO MANY OF YOU DUMBASSES SAY JEB BUSH DIDN'T NEED ANY HELP CLEANING UP FLORIDA, HOW MANY OF YOU ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED IT, WE HAD IT NOTHING LIKE NEW ORLEANS DID. BUSH, GET ON YOUR JOB.

niggers need to quit living in the past. if racism is the only thing they're complaining about nowadays then they are really lucky. Their ancestors use to be slaves, beaten and shit. Yet its the same niggers of today who suck the government dry from welfare and food stamps that cry like little bitches.

WOW, YOU ARE SAYING KANYE CAN BARELY SPEAK, YOU CAN BARELY TYPE. JEFF AND CRAKER ARE REASONS FOR KANYE TO SAY COMMENTS LIKE THAT. IT'S PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO NEED TO BE PUT IN A POSITION LIKE SOME OF THE POOR NEGRO'S ARE IN. YOU TWO ARE A COMPLETE WASTE OF MATTER.

BY THE WAY DO YOU HAVE ANY REASON AT ALL TO HATE BLACKS?

TO THE DUMBASS BILL CLINTON- WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT CONDI AND COLLIN ARNET REALLY BLACK? THEN WHAT HTE FUCK ARE THEY? JUST BECAUSE THEY WENT TO COLLEGE AND DIDNT LIVE ON FOOD STAMPS DOESNT MAKE HTEM LESS BLACK. THEY'RE JUST EDUCATED. NIGGERS CANT STAND OTHER NIGGERS WHO MAKE SOMETHING OF THEMSELVES. GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASS AND GET DOWN TO THE BAYOU AND START RECOVERY AND CLEANUP IF YOU THINK YOU CAN DO A BETTER JOB. FUCKING IDIOT

CRYBABIES,

READ MY DAMN POSTS THOUROGHLY BEFORE YOU START TO ACCUSE ME OF BEING OF A "FUCKING IDIOT" I HAVE DONE MORE THEN MY SHARE OF CLEAN UP EFFORTS IN POLK COUNTY ALONE WHEN THE HURRICANES CAME THROUGH LAST YEAR. MAY I ASK WHAT ARE YOU DOING ACCUSING ME OF NOT HELPING? WHY CALL ME A DUMBASS WHEN YOU MADE MORE THEN YOUR SHARE OF MISTAKES ON YOUR POSTS. I HAVE DONE MORE THAN MOST PEOPLE HAVE AND I AM VERY SUCCESSFUL AT WHAT I DO, AT A YOUNG AGE. BEFORE YOU USE THE TERM "NIGGERS" PLEASE IMAGINE YOURSELF BEING ONE OF THOSE "NIGGERS" BEFORE YOU COME ON HERE AND TALK SHIT ABOUT ME. AND YES RICE AND POWELL MAY BE BLACK, BUT DO YOU THINK THEY EVEN KNOW WHAT A GHETTO IS LIKE. ALL OF YOU IGNORANT IDIOT'S NEED TO EXPERIENCE LIFE LIKE ON OF THOSE "NIGGERS" BEFORE YOU JUMP TO CRITICIZE THEM.

i think that the only reason why kayne west did that is that he had to get his name out there since his music sucks. i believe the reason why there was such a slow reaction was that people had to be careful for their own life since there was up to ten feet of water in some places. i highly doubt that kayne west would have gone down there and rescued people. he could have put out a much better name for himself doing that. plus i don't understand how someone could throw in the race card in such in horrifying situation. how selfish can you be. things like that show you ungreatful he really is. i hope people don't blame the government for doing this. they have tried their best although it might not have been the fastest (since there was a whole city almost under water). i say good job president bush keep up all your hard work.

I have posted on this message boards a couple of time earlier because this issue means so much to me. I usually dont even get on things like this but this issue is huge.. I am WHITE yes so some people might not care about my opinion but I'll voive it anyway, because I believe it to be true and unbiased. KANYE WEST is a well known celebrity and alot of young and old people of many differnt races listen to him because of that. I myself was a fan of his I like his music. But this selfish racist bastard is dividing our country. I have given some of my hard earned money to help victims of this crisis, and I myslef voted and still believe in pres bush... Has a hurricane of this magnitude ever hit before?? NO!!!! So how can ANYONE be expected to help.. No one knows how hard hit this city was except for the people that were there.. I dont blame the pres.. No other president has had to deal with the issues that G.W. Bush has, and this country is still here... That is a great accomplishment.. There are so many things I could say about this country, and how things are but just remember this one thing KANYE we are all here together.. Thats not going to change and If we dont come together and stop being angry and hating each other.. (more black people hate white people than white people hate blacks... then we are screwed.. I dont hate black people but they hate me for who i am thats ignorant and racist.. It digusting and its accepted.. White people are the most discrimnated against now a days.. we bend over backwards to help and we are still hated... Its sad but true

excuse me mr. bill clinton
i didn't know that you had to live in the ghetto before you are recognized as a nigger. i think that you speak so highly forself because in reality you are probably nothing. i think that you have president bush so far up on a pedestal that if it would rain in florida it would be his fault. although since you are such a successful young man you might be able to do a much better job then anyone else. (notice the sarcasm) trust me i have nothing against black people but it is ridiculous for people to throw the race card into a situation like this. How selfish can you really be????

bboogie,

you make valid points, but dont you think there is a reason no other president had to go throught what he is going through, sure the hurricane was natural, but what about the rest?
p.s. hurricane Andrew has caused similar devestation, may not be as much but there has been other natural crisis situations.

Jello can you recall a president that has had to recover from a terrorist attack on american soil and handle a war and now recover from what is going on now. hurricane andrew might have caused similar devestation but they are saying this is the worst natural disaster that america has faced. a whole city might never be able to be built again. answer me this do you think that you could have handled all the situations that president bush as had to handle?

mr. / mrs. queen,

nowhere there did i say you MUST live in ghetto to be a NEGRO, I am trying to relate to the situation in New Orleans, the people you see on TV are from the ghetto, you people who want to say that i am a racist, should see what it is for yourself, any of you are are quick to critisize me need to be thankful first of all that you have never had to live in a ghetto. There is no way to explain to you people how it is to feel like one of those "niggers" living how they live. And let's get something straight, although i do not agree with Bush, My statements did not in any way say that i blame Bush for everything, but all you Republicans, who are mostly well-off need to realize what we go through, Do you think that it is just a damn coincidence that all these bad things that happened to Bush. I dont think so. I dont think you people realize what it is to be one of those "niggers". I am not trying to make this a racial dispute in no way, i am just saying that minorities are under appreciated. And for you to judge where my success level is without even knowing me, just shows how ignorant one of you people can be.

queen,

you dont think 9/11 happened to Bush for a reason? And handle a war, THAT HE STARTED, AND FOR WHAT REASON? he couldn't even tell you, what the hell are they still in a war there, My brother is in Iraq as we speak but for what, not even the military knows.

first off bill clinton, i myself have to work a full time job just to support myself. no i would not like to like in a "ghetto" because no one deserves to live like that. so "they" meaning ALL races need to get a job even if it is pickin up trash. Second of all, i was just trying to say that people blame the president for this. it is not just one man. Anyone human would not let thousands of people die no matter what color you are. so quit blaming the president. Quit feeling sorry for yourself because you have it hundred times better than anyone of those people living in new orleans (both black and whites). and third of all if i was judging your success level i was just returning the favor for crybabies. so if you can't handle getting the favor in return then don't dish it out.

In the imortal words of Tupac Shakur remixed by me:




How can we be free


Sometimes I wonder about your race


Because you must be blind as hell


2 think we live in equality while my people rot in jail


where the shores of the Gulf


are full of Afrikan corpses


Or some poor brothers


dying in the Armed Forces


This so called "Home of the Brave"


As if they forgot they once had slaves.


Why wasn't anybody backing us up!


Y'all saw the crooked Government jacking shit up!


Now I bet some punk will say I'm racist


Look at your HIStory it's in the pages


So I give a damn what you think of me


I see bodies down in New Orleans.


-- Tupac Remix --

In the imortal words of Tupac Shakur remixed by me: How Can We Be Free




Sometimes I wonder about your race


Because you must be blind as hell


2 think we live in equality while my people rot in jail


where the shores of the Gulf


are full of Afrikan corpses


Or some poor brothers


dying in the Armed Forces


This so called "Home of the Brave"


As if they forgot they once had slaves.


Why wasn't anybody backing us up!


Y'all saw the crooked Government jacking shit up!


Now I bet some punk will say I'm racist


Look at your HIStory it's in the pages


So I give a damn what you think of me


I see bodies down in New Orleans.


-- Tupac Remix --

queen,

What the hell do you mean by quit feeling sorry for myself? Why the hell should I feel sorry for myself when I have it 1000 time better then they do? I have my own issues to worry about and feeling sorry for them isnt goint to help a damn thing, so how did you draw up that conclusion? And also, what favors have I dished out here? none. Where you got that remark is also a mystery for me. I just wish that in you next life that you experience all that those "niggers" go through. From slavery, to stereotyping. IT IS OBVIOUS THAT RACE IS AN ISSUE IN EVERYTHING. If you can't see it that is your fault that you refuse to open up your mind. I am not black. I am a minority who was also stuck in the struggle at one time living in the ghetto. I was born in Zimbabwe, I have lived in Brooklyn. I have seen it and it is not a pretty site. If you do not beleive race does not play into everything that we do than you must be blind. Just look at the statistics, everything that you see disfavors the minorities, from jail time to jobs.

Nicely Said Mr. Merriweather

Thanks it's a shame that inspiration comes out of tragic events. So keep it up KanYe!!!

That's funny because the issue isn't whether or not White or Black people are looting, the issue is people shouldn't be doing it at all. If you loot your ass deserves to get shot white or not. Stop using this as an excuse to score free air jordans.

And for the record check the US census the minority in Universities around the country is consistantly the caucasian male and it has been for over 5 years. More white people as garbagemen in all likelyhood. Stop turning the hurricane into a race issue because nature sure as hell didn't target all the brothers down there.

I just hope everyone remembers one thing.. If this country keeps being divided by stupid people saying the first selfish thing that comes to mind we are all going to regret it.. I love this country , and statments like the one KANYE made hurt me and the rest of us... WE need to come together in times like this, because belive me, there will be more.. lets act like americans and be as one.. God bless everyone.. and lets stop the bullshit.. I hope you read this KANYE you jackass

bboogie it really hurts that you don't try and understand you may not like what was said but at least try and understand why it was said and when you say it hurt "us" that is exactly the point I'm not apart of that "us". That statement right there shows the divide becasue "us" is you not me. Free speech until you say something "us" don't like. You are truly funny.

LIKE TEH ZOMGZORZ

IDIOT LIBERALS FIGHTING IDIOT CONSERVATIVES

Ok maybe not, but I still don't see what the fuss is all about.

bboogie monster, I hope that Kanye reads your posting as well. I think that he will really take your advice, seeing that you called him a name. It is so funny how people get down (communicate) beind email...kinda reminds me of white sheets! How can you be taken seriously?? huh?

take me seriously or not i odnt care, im just trying to voice my opinion, us means us as a whole... Our country is us.. I did not mean white people.. you see you are the one that jumps to conclusions so quickly.. look at my statement.. I did not mean anything and you turn it around.. like the majoratory of black america.. thats what so sad.. you say one thing and its turned around, because of the race card.. because you are looking for an excuse.. grow up open ur eyes.. this is 2005 there is no racism, but the one you create

kanye's action in no way can be justified. though it is true that he did garner much needed attention indeliberately, what he'd done cannot be rectified.

had he said, "poor people" or "people" in general, had he been a shining pundit of the calamity, yet by singling out blacks from the rest, i believe he has worsened the overall portrayl of african amerians populus

Well I read most of everyones comments and I have to say that anyone who thinks Kanye is brave and a badass is a complete moroon. I hate all these rappers or lack of who keep on arguing about the struggle between whites and blacks. If there are such problems with blacks being poor than how come not one of these "artisits" donate anything to them or their old neighborhoods????? .....Too busy wasting his millions on jewerly and nonsense. QQueen I like your comments and BillClinton I'm a minority and you are an arrogant asshole.

Peace

I've read all the comments on this blog and I'm disgusted at how many people still have their heads in the sand about the issues in this country. Did the Almighty Prez with his all his "Christian Moral Values" pray to God for the hurricane to kill all the Negros in NO? Who knows, BUT was he definitely in the position to help and to take the proper precautions. And the news coverage I was watching showed him flying in Air Force One, looking down with the "Aw, that's fucked up, oh well, tally-ho on to the white house" look. Damn right, Kanye was right for what he said. Now, don't get me wrong by any means, no, you shouldn't loot for TVs if you don't have the electricity to use it. I'm not trying to justify that at all. But, I think if it was a place like Texas (being from Dallas myself), things would've definitely been different. Hell, Florida was hit by not one but three hurricanes back to back and his brother Jed made one phone call and you ain't heard any more about it. But then again, it was the state that brought it all home for him to get that position. But with the position that he so wrongfully got, comes great responsibility. And ultimately, he fail short. And I thought this was a forum for hip-hop heads (which usually would not include white right-wing supermacist)? But I glad they chimed in because not only have you made me aware that the race problem still exist but that you're to stupid to realize it because you feel as though we need to be honored just being allowed to coexist in this country. (Don't make me remind you all who invited us over here to help BUILD this country in the first place.) Just reading some of these posts damn near made me lose my religion. Some of you may not like what he said but at least it has brought some awareness (for those who choose to be aware) to the issue. And for that alone, he gets my respect.

Kanye West statement that night reminds me so much of Malcolm X the only True black guy who have the balls. Where have all those gangster with bling bling went, when their own people are dying. How come noone is saying anything? where the fuck is Puff Daddy or P Diddy or Diddy or Doddy went? can't he send choppers to rescue his own people stranded in flood with all the money he made by selling those lame ass albums and clothes to black youths? why can't he give back little to his own people in their times of need?

Power to the Kanye West
Power to the Black brothers and sisters in New Orleans. It is about time Black should demand their own seperate Country or atleast start their own parellel government cuz white men ain;t going to take care of you.

sum one send bush to iraq and stand him next to an rpg. america will be better off.

Black people should have a seperate country I'm tired of the complaining.. I just wonder what your black country would be like.. Ohh yeah I forgot its africa... Poverty stricken with no food... How long do you think a country of thuggs would survive.. There are educated black folks yes.. there are black leaders yes.. but the majority are thugs and lazy.. soory to say that does'nt make a country guys.. but good luck have at it... Im all for it for schizzle dizzle.. ha

Hey I just had an idea maybe KANYE WEST can be the president of this new country he seems to know all about political issues and what his people needs.. but taking care of them is another story.. anyone can pop off at the mouth but can you come through.. Good luck Kanye and the new africa... All Kanye has to do is get on the phone with his business manager like he said and everything is gravy right??? well i dont know, about that kanye but good luck anyway... Hey I'm not racist but when I read some of these comments it gets me upset you know...m Black folks blame us for everything.. Yes we do do some f***** up things in the past... But now in this point in time noone hold a black man down but himself, and if you dont beleive that then you're making an excuse to be lazy... THATS THE TRUTH

I agree jtsnow Kanye is a fool

Hey I'm not racist but when I read some of these comments it gets me upset you know...m Black folks blame us for everything..

Well as far i can see you are hopelessly rascist. you are streotyping the blacks. And ofcourse you guys are to be blame for everything that black people went through (and also native american)Just like naziz are to blamed for genocides.

hey Kanye rocks are you calling white people naziz, thats pretty sterotypical jtsnow said there are educated black folks and leaders right so he did'nt sterotype.. he said the MAJORITY are lazy thuggs.. now if you dont beleive that is the truth your crazy , and you're in denial.. ya dig?

hey I wish black folks were'nt lazy and thugged out and wanna be gansters if there're not already real ones.... but they are...

i don't understand how people can say this incident isn't the fault of our president when if he had passed the funding to build up the levees, the catastrophe could have been prevented. he knew is was bound to happen. he had been presented with the logistics of the potential damage a category 5 storm could do to the levees, yet he chose to cut the budget for reinforcing the levees simply because he and his cronies would reap no monetary benefit from it. As late as 6/29/05, a representative from New Orleans was before the house expressing this danger and not three months later the devastation came to life. So there, it is the fault of the government that this happened in the first place. secondly, hats off to Kanye...i admire his courage...i could see him catching flack if what he said wasn't true, but it is true...this is not the first incident of us being ill-portrayed by the media, it happens everyday, we all know about the order to "shoot to kill if necessary" so why is it because Kanye said it out loud must he be made to be the bad guy? He only said what the majority of blacks and poor people feel. Although he stumbled and stuttered over his words, the message came through as clear as a bell...hats off to Kanye, his balls are as big as his heart which is more than i can say about the other black celebrities that feel the same as Kanye does, but don't have the courage to say it out loud for fear of upsetting whitey! They are a bunch of "boot licking niggers" who would do anything to find favor with white america and maintain their status including keeping quiet. Chris Tucker actually looked as scared as a slave on the plantation when one slave does something unfavorable to master and the other slaves know they will have to suffer. And as far as what the government is doing now, i say it is too much, too little, too late...they can't turn back the hands of time and therefore the suffering will always be present for those who have lost their loved ones. When Bush went to N.O. it showed him speaking with what looked like a foreign mother and daugher, noone else, now since Kanye's statement...the media is bombarding us with photo ops of him signing autographs on black people's t-shirts and kissing black people and it's all staged, if he felt this way why did it take a public denouncement by a black rapper in order for him to display it. Bush knows that blacks in NO didn't vote for him and so he didn't care enough to make them a priority...they think we are stupid and that they can just show us some pics and we will feel differently about GW Bush, he's shit and a big phoney. And we all know that we cannot trust the media and to prove that, just look at how they edited Kanye's comment about Bush out of the west coast airing of the show..is it my imagination or do they just tell us what they want us to believe?

to the jackass who said that Kanye is dividing this country...that comment just proves how much of a jackass you are!...this country was divided from it's founding! whitey saw to that long before Kanye came along...you fucking idiot!

WELL, I DONT EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START. I HAVE BEEN READING THE COMMENTS POSTED. YOUR OWN THOUGHTS ON BEING BLACK, BLACK PEOPLE,WHITE PEOPLE, KENYE, PRESIDENT BUSH. IT AMAZES ME THAT YOU ALL STILL THROW AROUND THE N WORD. SOME OF YOU ARE RIGHT SOME OF YOU ARE DEAD WRONG. BUT IT DONT MATTER CAUSE WE ARE STILL DIVIDED. ALWAYS WILL BE. SOME OF YOU TALK ABOUT A GHETTO LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS. I SURE AS HELL DONT. I WAS RASIED IN AN UPPER BLACK MIDDLE CLASS NEIGBORHOOD IN OKLAHOMA CITY, OK. SURE WAS. CAME FROM A SINGLE PARENT HOME. WAS THE YOUNGEST OF 4. ALL OF US WENT TO COLLEGE AND GRADUATED WITH HONORS. I GUESS I AM ONE OF THE "LUCKY NIGGERS" AS JTSNOW WOULD SAY HUH? LOL THIS IS WHAT "THEY" WANT YA'LL TO DO. TO ARGUE AND GO AGAINST EACH OTHER. ALOT OF YA'LL TALK OF "COMING TOGETHER AS ONE" AND HELPING OUT BUT IN THE SAME BREATH WILL CALL A PERSON A NIGGER! I DONT UNDERSTAND!! SLAVERY WAS A LONG TIME AGO AND WE AS AFRICAN AMERICANS SHOULD LET IT GO AND WORRY ABOUT OUR COUNTRY HERE AND NOW. BUT SOME OF US CAN'T CAUSE WE STILL HAVE WHITE PEOPLE CALLING US "NIGGERS", "TREESWINGERS" AND "PORCHMONKEYS". SOME PEOPLE (BLACK, WHITE, ASIAN AND MEXICAN)ARE LAZY. AND SOME ARE NOT. SOME PEOPLE HAD IT GREAT, GOOD AND BAD IN LIFE. SOME PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO RISE FROM THE GUTTER AND MAKE A SUCCESS FOR THEM SELVES AND OTHERS COME FROM WEATLH AND GLAMOUR AND FELL TO THE PIT OF DESPAIR. ITS YOUR CHOICE IN HOW YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE. ITS YOUR CHOICE IN WHAT WORDS COME OUT YOUR MOUTH AND WHAT YOU SAY TO ANOTHER PERSON. I LIVE IN PHILADELPHIA, PA. I HAVE BEEN IN NEW ORLEANS FOR THE LAST 5 DAYS. HELPING AND GIVING BACK. I HAVE DONATED MY TIME AND EFFORT TO THIS CAUSE. I KNOW FIRST HAND WHAT ITS LIKE TO BE INVOLVED IN A NATURAL DISASTER. 1998 AN F5 TORNADO RIPPED THROUGH OKC. I LOST FAMILY, OUR HOUSE AND FRIENDS. CLINTON TOOK ONE LOOK AND DECLARIED IT A NATURAL DISASTER WITHIN 24HRS. YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING SO SO MUCH EFFORT IN CALLING EACH OTHER NAMES AND TALKING ABOUT KENYE WEST AND WHAT HE SAID THAT IN ALL THAT YOU COULD HAVE SENT CLOTHES, DONATED BLOOD OR DONATED TIME AT THE LOCAL RED CROSS. I AM NOT BERATING ANY OF YOU. ITS YOUR OPINION. FREE SPEECH. BUT MAYBE SOME OF YOU NEED TO GO BACK AND RE-READ WHAT YOU WROTE AND ASK YOURSELF: HOW CAN I HELP MY COUNTRY?
DONT DRAG IT DOWN. ITS ALREADY DOWN. HELP IT UP PEOPLE!! PEACE AND BLESSINGS TO ALL

Kanye West is smart and beleives in what he says. You fuckin racist people need to grow up and live in the present because anyone of any color can be something in this world that is why america is the best place on earth. We all know that there is still racism goin on today , you would be stubborn not too but i dont know if or i dont think anyone knows if Bush doesnt like black people. I just wonder if it is true after he was on vacation three days after katrina hit and how all that stuff i see on tv is going on. Black people just have a stereotype that they are criminals or gangsters but people who think like that shouldnt be living in america they should go chill with bin laden. All the shit that i have read about Bush leads me to beleive that it is true bc if yall didnt know our president is very corrupt and of course bc of his father has connects. I dont know how a man like Bush could graduate from Yale someone had to be payed off i mean this guy can never give a good speech like he has never taken an english class in his life. I have also read about all the easy money he has made in life. I dont think because of who his father was he should be handed the silver spoon of life in his mouth. He likes getting easy money like fliping the Texas Rangers, cocaine dealings, and the oil $ that we have no clue about. Bush was probably dove hunting when katrina hit and he kept hunting drinking beer and being the racist he is. Everyone needs to open there eyes.

Ok, lemme see..

JTSNOW
BLING BLING
MERMAID
PEP
PETER
BBOOGIE
QQUEEN
CRYBABIES
JEFFS
SUPERFUNK77

JUST TO NAME A FEW.. EVERYONE ON THIS LIST NEEDS HOOKED ON PHONICS, NEEDS TO RE-TAKE THEIR GED, NEEDS SPELL CHECK, NEEDS A PROOF READER, NEEDS TO WATCH THE NEWS, NEEDS TO READ A PHUKKEN BOOK ON OUR HISTORY. YOU ALL NEED TO DO THIS BEFORE YOU GIVE AN OPINION ON WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN OUR WORLD TODAY!! DAMN, YA'LL ALL ARE SOME DUMB ASS' AND YOU TYPE/SOUND DUMB. PLEASE GO BACK AND RE-READ WHAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN TO EACH OTHER. YOU SOUND STUPID!! AND YOUR JUST REPEATING YOURSELF OVER AND OVER SO THAT YOU SOUND EVEN MORE STUPID BUT NOW TWICE AS STUPID!! GO DONATE YOUR TIME TO A WORTHY CAUSE. UMMM. HELLO HOW ABOUT THE RELIEF FUND THAT YOUR FREAKING TALKING ABOUT!!!

AS FOR CRACKERS...WELL YOUR NAME SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.. U KNOW WHAT YOU ARE!!

AND LIKE "DOSOMETHING" SAID.. STOP THROWING THE N WORD AROUND!! JUST DISGUSTED BY ALL YA'LL. MAYBE EVERYONE ON THAT LIST NEEDS TO GO FIND AN ISLAND AND YOU GO LIVE THERE!!

Wow. All this over what some HIP HOP jackass says on TV. What does that say about our society. Ok here is the deal. The mayor had plenty of time (and authority) to mobolize all the city and school buses in the area to pick up and move the people with no transportation (BLACK or WHITE mind you) days before the hurricane hit. The Governor had the opportunity to activate the National Gaurd in Louisiana but didn't because she didn't want to spend the money. The states individualy controll the national gaurd units in their states untill the Governor signes them over to federal control in cases like these. Does the federal government have some explaining to do for waiting to get down there? Of course. But to say that Bush is sending down troops to shoot people in Louisiana and that Bush doesn't care about black people is so damn insaine and ignorant.

Kanye was striaght up right. He statements are real and from the heart and thank god he has the guts to say what he said. The story of Katrina is a story about racism. Pure and simple.

You can bet your right hand that if the people suffering were white and rich the National Guard for have been their 4 days before hand to make sure everyone and their yacht were safe and sound. Oh that’s right, that’s exactly what happened in 2004 during Hurricane Frances in Palm Beach. Some of y’all posting on here that don't get it need to read this:

"Hurricane Katrina Exposes Racism!"

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=10&ItemID=8625

How about being poor and white?

I don't think the government would care about those people either.
"Hurricane Katrina Exposes Racism??!!!
yeah right
Hurricane Katrina Exposes how dumb Americans are!!(why did more people not evacuate the city?!)
Hurricane Katrina Exposese how American don't give a fuck about one another!!!
(if that disater would happen anywhere else in the world if would be dealt with better, faster more efficinetly)

How RACIST is it to base YOUR DONATION to PEOPLE IN NEED, on the comments of another person who just so happens to be the SAME SHADE as the victims?

Kanye DID NOT say ALL WHITE PPL don't care about ALL BLACK PPL. He named ONE NAME.......GEORGE BUSH! So what are some of you crying about?

If he said MICHAEL MOORE, or JAY LENO, would that upset you as well? Is it that GEORGE BUSH represents ONLY WHITE PEOPLE in America in your opinion and that's why you defend him? I am trying to understand.

It's really funny because NEWS JOURNALISTS on just about EVERY CHANNEL alluded to the idea of RACE days before Kanye entered the NBC studio. Where is the protest about them? Is it because the majority of them are WHITE? Is it okay for THEM to mention RACE but not for KANYE?

If it was the case( I don't doubt it) that the mayor and governor failed the citizens, what day do you call it a failure? 1 day without food, 2 days? 3? no baths no nothing. no toilets...

WHO do you have to BE in THIS country to see a tragedy and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?

OH yeah,

The PRESIDENT!

BART you said:

"I don't think the government would care about those people either.
"Hurricane Katrina Exposes Racism??!!!
yeah right
Hurricane Katrina Exposes how dumb Americans are!!(why did more people not evacuate the city?!)"

How come more people didnt evacuate the city?? How come?? Try they didnt have the transportation, money or the means to do so. Some of these people have never crossed the freaking state line or even gone over to the next county!! How you going to ask a question like that and not know the asnwer when EVERYONE has said alot of these people are "POOR". Black and White people!! If you have no money than its hard to do anything!!

I think this whole kayne west insident was amusing. There maybe some truth to what he said.

To y'all need Jesus:

I have you to know that I'm highly educated and I'm a registered voter. Therefore, I can complain (in complete sentences)about the job the President is doing. Not all black people sit on their butts all day waiting on a hand out. And to elaborate on the subject, most of the posts that's defending Bush, if you read them, depict us as a bunch lazy welfare recipients that's using a force of nature to get over on the government. NOW HOW RACISTS IS THAT!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!! Like I said earlier and still stand by, I can't believe how many people still have their heads in the sand and in Crackers and Crybabies case up their asses.

Mermaid,

I apologize to you for your RIGHT. YOUR name should not have been on the list.

My bad.. I think it got put on via its close to them other knuckle heads I was aiming for.

One more thought for those that said Kanye was stupid for saying is his lyrics that the government was responsible for AIDS in the black community.

I always say do your research before you speak even if you don’t believe Kanye’s conclusions if you researched you would understand the landscape from which his conclusions were drawn. One you talk as if the government is above spreading diseases in the Black Community. Check your HIStory, can you say Tuskegee 1932 – 1972?

The Tuskegee study of untreated syphilis in the Black male is the longest non therapeutic experiment on human beings in medical history. The strategies used to recruit and retain participants were quite similar to those being advocated for HIV/AIDS prevention programs today. So his conclusions were drawn from that bit of HIStory.

So don’t get all mighty and think your government is above the bullshit! You don’t have to agree but don’t knock Kanye for what he believes especially when HIStory is on his side. The point I’m making is Kanye’s statements in his lyrics aren’t coming from some misguided rich guy it’s supported by your governments HIStory.

Check it out and get back with me but for those who are just throwing around sterotypical insults please save the time and space on this blog for those who actually want to itelligently debate this issue.

What I seen was not a very nervous Kanye West but a very emotional Kanye West. You can hear it in his voice as if he was hurt and holding back tears. Kanye show he had extreme courage, because courage is not the absences of fear, but the strength to do what’s right in the face of it. And that what he did...the right thing, he told it how it is. I would like to take this time to apologize to the brother Kanye. Right before his second album released I said some things about him and a lot of other rappers. I said that I wasn't supporting any rapper that contributed to the down fall of black people. All the "I killed 100 men in a night", "I sold more dope than you" rappers. all that’s doing is telling our youth to go out, sell drugs, kill other blacks who stand on your corner, don’t pay your rent, buy clothes, don't buy your homes...rent them and buy a SUV with 20" rims like me, forget school play ball. No everyone can't be a rapper or a singer or play ball. although kanye don't rape about these things I didn't like the image he gave on his first album "college Drop-out" I wasn't going to support him anymore because I thought what meant by the title and some lyrics was to drop out you don't need school, play ball or rap. But after hearing the song "hey mamma" on his second album I decided to support him and by the album. It made me proud that even after becoming a millionaire, and has a secure further; he is still going back to school to finish. It made me even prouder to hear what he said during the telecast. that shows me that not only is he trying to help change the minds of young black with his lyrics, that he's willing to fight politically along side of us. March on brother Kanye, pump ya fist in the air, make ya noise baby!

oh for gods sake would all you you just stop!! NOT ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE RACISTS! If you are stupid enough to think that the president ignored people because they are back. Please educate yourself. The Mayor of N.O. is black, he did nothing, he could have taken all the school buses and evacuated everyone. He did not, he is incompotent. The Govenor a white women is also to blame. To think that the president is directly in charge of disaster relief is stupid. I will say one thing, if someone from FEMA is not fired over this, I will be upset with bush.

Kanye West is a racist, most of the hip hop community are racists, but GOD FORBID anyone call them on it.

I am tired of being politically correct.

When is everyone going to stop seeing each other in terms of color??????? This is the year 2005!!! I agree that the situation in all the Southern states could have been handled better. However, I don't understand how people can actually believe that this was some intentional plan that Bush had going all along!

christy everyone will stop seeing each other in terms of colors when the blacks stop bringing up race. get over it, none of you were slaves and we don't owe you anything. if you could read a history book you'd learn that there were white slaves along with black slaves. you don't hear whites complaining about something that happened several hundred years ago. GET OVER IT!

if we're lucky, Kanye will choke on that stupid cigar he likes to chew on. (oral fixation?)

KANYE WEST SPOKE ON WHAT EVERYONE WAS THINKING IN THE BACK OF THEIR MIND, YEA HE SEEMS TO BE AN IDIOT TO US BECAUSE WE ALL SCARED TO SAY THAT LIVE, WHETHER HE SOUNDED EMOTIONAL OR NERVOUS, HE DID IT.

gO GET THAT lATE reGISTRATION!!!!!

For the people who love what Kanye did you must have missed the part where he said he WENT SHOPPING before he gave money to the Red Cross. How can you attack somebody else about mistreating "your people" when you haven't done anything but make dumb comments. Kanye's comments are exactly what we don't need right now. We need to be comming together to get the people out not pulling the race card making an already hostile situation worse. EVERYBODY dropped the ball on New Orleans not just Bush. And as for the "bad press" blacks are getting I don't think Bush is the one that got those kids raped in the dome or the one thats shooting at soilders dropping off food and I know he's not the one thats got us stealing tv sets to put in a house with no electricity, No! we did that our selves. Anyway I said all that to say talk politics, personal opinions, and point fingers later, save the people NOW!

Is this a race issue? Seems that way to me-at least 90% of the evacuees are black and at least 90% of the rescuers are white. Hmmm! I'm sure this was all part of President Bush's evil plan to desecrate the United States. Please, give me a break! How long will certain members of a certain race choose to keep "racism" alive and well?

Yeha, because black and white are the only colours in the world.

Does not CARE about black people. Hell we already know that.
I love it, he's definitely got to be one of the worst presidents ever!!!!!!! LOL Ya see his face when he's asked questions..whew!!! LOL

A thank you goes out to Kayne West today. It is what Mr. West did that defines a true American; speaking his mind to an audience of millions and calling on our leader to assist these people in need. It is an honor to see someone use free speach in this way and I personally commend him for pushing the buttons of all Americans to make the world a better place. My best to Kayne and the victims of Hurricane Katrina.

Yeah right. Let's blame somebody else for our own shortcomings. Why is it we never start by looking at the man in the mirror when trying to solve problems? I appreciate the emotion of what Kanye said but let's look at it this way.
Those black people in New Orleans have been living in poverty for decades. Where was Kanye then? Where was the rest of the hip-hop community that is so ready to jump on the band wagon now? How many of those poor people and all of you on this blog voted in the last election? I'm willing to bet that less than 40% of the people on this blog voted. Probably less than 20% of those affected by the hurricane voted.
Look at the example hip-hop sets for our young kids. Did you see the watch Diddy was wearing at the MTV awards? That watch would put a black child through Stanford for four years. Hip-hop puts much more emphasis on bling-bling than they do on education. Kids who see them in videos with Bentley's and bling want to have Bentley's and bling too - not college degrees.
What I'm really trying to say is that black people don't care about black people. Next time you see a blinged out rap star driving his or her $100,000 car ask them “how much have you donated to the United Negro College Fund”? “How much have you donated to hurricane relief”? “Did you vote in the last election”?

And it's not just black people in this country. Are they familiar with the working conditions of the black mine workers who mined those diamonds in South Africa? Do they know who really controls the diamond market. Yeah, the same people who kept Nelson Mandela in prison for 27 years are the ones who profit from our rap stars thirst for bling-bling. How many blacks work at the Bentley factory? The Ferrari factory? The Maserati factory?

Until these rap stars start to take a real look at themselves and really attack the issues that affect black Americans, they are part of the problem - not the solution.
So again, who is it that doesn't care about black people?

I disagree with Nino - Mike Myers was reading from a teleprompter(someone wrote what he said) Mike Myers was a puppet for the Telethon. On the other hand Kanye stated things from his heart. He had the ability to stand atop his soapbox and use the moments he had on air, not to say what was written for him, but to voice his opinion on how this govenment works under the worse circumstances. Also did George Carlin get this much press when he stated our government "likes to bomb brown people"

Big Daddy 40 whats your point? So...Kanye's comments have no merit bc he's a rapper?

I dont expect Kanye or Diddy or anyone to "save the children". Thats what my taxes and local PTA are for. Kanye made some valid and some invalid comments regarding the deplorable situation in NO. Lets debate those comments.

And to all the people who keep saying "this isn't about race":

8 Tips On How To Avoid...
...Dealing With The Really Really Really Really Really Really Really Really Obvious Racial Dimensions of the New Orleans Tragedy, As Taught To Me By Television And The Web Over The Last Week*:

1. Admit that poverty disproportionately affects Black people, but DO NOT think about why that is.

2. This is not the appropriate time for questions. The appropriate time for questions is when nobody cares anymore.

3. Take anything that has racial implications off the table (try saying something about "not playing the race card"), then make a big deal about how what remains is not racist.

4. All Black people are to be held accountable for the actions of all other Black people.
We White folks are reasonable people after all...If they want our help, all we ask in return is that no Black person ever do anything bad.

5. People who complain just want attention.
And even if they don’t, what’s important for us to talk about is the fact that they’re complaining. DO NOT think about whatever it is that they’re complaining about.

6. George Bush does so care about Black people; after all, he hired two of them!
I have actually heard people say this.

7. It’s their own fault for not leaving New Orleans.
Remember, most Black people in the urban South have cars, gas, large savings accounts, insurance, credit cards with high limits, places to go and several weeks of vacation time that they can take whenever they want.

8. Repeat after me: "I have NO IDEA why a Black person who grew up in an impoverished, segregated environment and had been left to starve to death for five days surrounded by dead bodies wouldn’t trust a white guy running towards him with a gun."

Hi there! Kayne West is just getting ready to promote his new album. Many rap stars cater to people in Poverty. The story is, that he said that to promote his album. I believe its true. Many other rap stars lost their families in that hurricane and are rolling up their sleaves on boats saving survivors and looking for their own family. Non of them have been in support of Kayne West with his speach. One of them said, " I dont see him out here looking and risking his life." They are down there with white and Black, where color isnt an issue. Knowing that blacks didnt have Bush's vote from the beginning and that blacks rich and poor primarily buy Kayne West's albums, he did a great job at promoting his album!!! As far as helping with the tragety??? Nope. Finger pointing and sitting on your ass trying to sell your album by exploiting the tragety wont save lives in New Orleans.

I have read many of your postings. I believe Kanye's statement is doing EXACTLY what it was meant to do and that is get America's attention. Whether you agree or disagree with his statement the fact that there are thousands of websites talking about this means he succeeded in what he was trying to do.
Looking past the way Kanye brought his message I agree with the TRUE message in it. I d not blame Pres. Bush for everything, but Kanye didn't say he did either. One posting in particular caught my attention. Written by "dl" for you to even use one mans statement as a reason for you to stop donating to this victims means you never really intended to do it in the first place. You say "SHAME ON YOU" to Kanye but it's really SHAME ON YOU DL !! A lot of your remarks anger me. No one ever said Kanye was a leader or any of this. He is just a young rapper stating his opinion publicly. This is America. He has every right to do it and if people would just take their blinders off America is not equal. It's never been set up that way so stop foolin' yourself. "The land of the free", "Equal Opportunity"??? All of these things have never been and will probably never be!!

Puppet or not for the telethon, both Mike and Kanye had a hell of a lot more options to voice their opinions than on a freaking fund raising marathon.

Until you are down there with your hands in the dirty water and actually helping, your opinions are just that; opinions. What he did here was voice his opinions at a place where it was inappropriate to voice it. Its like going to your mean boss' funeral and said "This guy hates me and screwed me out of my pay check." Does he have the right? sure. Was it appropriate? probably not. Was it self serving to burst out and let his uncontrollable emotions speak at a pretty inopportune time? yea, kinda. And for anyone to judge either him or Bush or victims or "victims" who are shooting at workers OR cops who are shooting at victims.... stick to the facts and take a stand case by case, otherwise you are just as prejudice as Kayne is and as Kayne claims Bush to be.

Golden rules:

Judge others immediately because you are obviously better then they are.

Offer help for others only when you are recognized and will be rewarded.

Admit shortcomings only when your act of admitting publicly will make you a better person in other's view.

Blame others, its never your fault.

Protect your market: make sure those who repeatedly buy from you at $15.95 per CD will be saved and given the funds (from pockets other than yours) to continue buying your CDs.

Kayne is a smart man.

You have got to be kidding me! Nothing this man said, or did referenced his new album out. I think quite a few of you on here act as if he personally used the spot to plug his album "late registration". Stacy I think you obviously cannot relate to the subject matter aroused by what Kanye had to say. Color is always an issue. When I watch the television reports on the astrodome and see nothing but black faces crying and I wonder where are the white counterparts. All of N.O. should be battling this together, but it would definitely seem that this battle is not being equally fought. There is a great divide in America and that needs to be acknowledged before the healing processes can begin. Don't act like racism doesn't exist anymore. Copp the album and support a man speaking out with integrity, saying what needed to be said; saying what other voices only wished that they could have had the opportunity to say. I think if this had been Clinton he would have been down in the masses kissing and embracing everyone, possibly even rolling up his sleeves to help. What happen to the real "America"?

How many of you out there believe that Kanye will be ousted (black-listed) like the Dixie Chicks were for making "obscene" political remarks against this "great" nations President?

If this Nation is so great why are we begging other nations for help? I think it is time that the U.S. step down from it's pedestal of "SUPER-powerdom" and accept that the war in Iraq has left our Country weak and feeble. The war depletes our resources everyday, and the gas prices rise in an effort to protect the oil fields that took many lives to gain control of. I'm tired of these pampered, prissy, bitch boys running the country. I would love to see a real humanitarian gain control over the oval office once again.

peace out. Be Real!!!!!!!!!!!!!

St Bernard - ground zero just got help today.

St Bernard - 88.3% white

New Orleans - 67.3% black

Kanye is an uninformed racist moron.

I read these comments and it is sickening how ingnorant people are. First of all, Kanye West made those comments refrencing photos seen in the associated press and some other news journal (forgive me for not knowing the name of it.) These are two news journals that are highly LIBERAL; a.k.a., Bush haters. One was a picture of a white couple leaving a store with bags full of needed items (i.e. bread, water, soda) with a caption that implied the couple was taking items that were essential to their survival. The other photo was of a black man leaving a store with some soda and a bag full of what was apparently stolen goods. The caption on this photo implied that he was looting. In an unlikely case, this man was taking merhcandise for his family, but given the quantity of boxes he had, a reasonable person would believe he was looting, regardless of the color of his skin. Kanye West needs to do a little more research in order to make sure his comments are accurate. It was not Bush potraying these people as looters vs. survivors, it's the liberal media. He's hating Bush haters, does that mean he actually likes Bush? And the slow response is NOT president Bush's fault. There is a reverse heirarchy when it comes to emergency response beggining with the local government. This would be the mayor of New Orleans... and all he could do was yell and cuss on the public radio and say that Bush couldn't do his job right. Then it ascended to the State government, this would be the Governer. She didn't know what the HELL she was doing! She sat around with her thumb up her butt for 2 days, crying, uncertain about what to do. Finally she asked for the Federal Governments help and that's when Bush jumped in and took over the situation. 40,000 military and rescure personell were sent to New Orleans. FEMA and the affected areas now have 51 billion dollars at their disposal to help with relief efforts. When Bush was asked to help, he did; he rose to the challenge better than even the strongest supports thought he could. If want to blame, blame the Mayor of New Orleans who insulted rather than helped. Blame the Governer of Louisiana who wondered around cluelessly for 2 days before somebody advised her of what she should do. Blame the director of FEMA for also not knowing what the hell to do. And finally, SHAME on Kanye West for doing what he did. I don't necessarily dislike him, until now, but he took an already bad situation and made it an immeasurable ammount worse. And God bless Mike Meyers who had to have been in the most uncomfortable position he had ever been placed in.

To blame one man for all this is simple-minded. It was a failure at many levels: local government, state government, federal government, and (yes) personal responsibility.

Why build a city that is below sea level?

Why design a levee to withstand only a Cat 3 storm?

Why wasn't the evacuation better planned and executed?

Why wasn't the LA National Guard prepared?

Why wasn't the miliary prepared?

Why wasn't FMEA prepared?

Why wasn't the Superdome better staffed?

Where was the communication breakdown?

"George Bush does not care about black people" can not be an answer for these questions.

LOL WHAT AN IDIOT.....why does he have C. Rice in office???????????????!!!!!!!!!

Shane can you say token?

To "Y'all need jesus:"

Ha! why do you have to make fun of me if i make spelling mistakes? I just graduated from a public university, so cut me some slack. Also, reading your comments is pretty fun. It's kind of cool to see broken brain struggling to repair its self in print.

Also it's nice to see that people still believe in the lord, even though the catholic church hasn't donated anything to the hurricane victims. How does it work? Worship Jesus and you get flooded?? eh, sounds like a good deal to me, but I'd rather worship santa claus and get flooded with presents instead.

Before you post again, try and explain your ideas to your caregiver first. That way they can translate what your dusty ass molded brain is trying to squeeze out!

p.s. go to hell!

P.S.S. Just kidding, don't you have something better to do than read this. Go donate, even though I'm sure that you have already. sych!

Way to Kanye, History has caused blacks to think about color when we are dealt a bad hand. I too questioned if this was a predominantly white are would those people have been helped by now.... I just pray God will take care of them all...

MAYOR NAGIN HATES BLACK PEOPLE TOO!!! "and he is black"

BLANCO HATES BLACK PEOPLE!!

anyone who didnt manage this situation 100% correct DOES NOT CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE!!

being sarcastic,,, u get the point

Wow.... It is amazing the amount of wrong information in this blog.
Well, you could probably say that about any blog, I guess.

Someone mentioned that the Catholic church "hasn't donated anything to the hurricane victims." I googled the local Catholic church and found these 2 charity drives in my town 800 or so miles away:

">http://www.cdop.org/files/cdop_documents/PR-HurricaneKatrina%2008-31-2005.pdf

">http://www.cdop.org/files/cdop_documents/CatholicCharities-Hurricane-9-6-05.pdf

It is no use trying to explain to some people why in "our eyes" (our being minorities) what it feels like. They will never be able to feel what we feel. If they call us porch monkey or whatever, they cant feel the emotions we feel. When you see ghetto's and how most blacks live, they cant feel how much we really want to do better for ourselfs, it is easy for some of these people here to say "get of your dirt monkley asses and go to college or get a job, but if it is as easy said then done, it would be done." So all this arguing back and forward is useless. Long live Bill Clint.

It is absolutely amazing how misdirected energies now want to focus on a comment made by someone from the heart and expect them not to be nervous and for those of you who call him selfish, he has not thought of his future and being blackballed here in the good ole US of A...with the obvious disregard for the poor, and here we all are in 2005 still lying to ourselves that there is no such thing as white privelege and that we all are equal. Let's get real people! The whole world is watching how America still mistreats the very people whose ancestors built this country.

A lot of people Black and White are thinking exactly what Kanye West expressed. Had it been a White person making a similar statement there would not be so much criticism. Personally I agree with him--George Bush doesn't care about people of color, poor people or old people.

Whether you agree or disagree with Kanye's comments, you gotta admit that it took balls of steel for him to do it. His stuttering and at times, incoherrent speech was clearly a result of the anxiety he felt while seizing the chance to voice his opinion and abandon the teleprompter. I can only imagine all of the thoughts that must have gone through his head as he waited to speak. Kanye said on national TV what most of us only say around the water cooler or dinner table: "Something is not right here, why isn't my goverment addressing things more quickly and correctly?" I also believe that Kanye's statements about shopping were his heartfelt admittance of how his priorities have changed (however, its possible that he meant that he had been shopping for donations but will now donate money). I applaud this young man for taking a very brave step in stating what he believes needed to be stated. Very few people are willing to risk it all to stand for what they believe in. Regardless of who is really to blame, Kanye voiced his opinion. To anyone who is deterred from making a donation because of one man's viewpoint: I hope your fate never hangs in the balance and becomes dependent on the donations of others. In regards to race, I personally believe that many people are turned off completely by his comments because he played the infamous "race" card. However, if he had bashed Bush and ignored race these very same people would call Kanye a genius. Racism is still alive and well and incidents are not limited to black/white. However, racism or classism in any form must always be labeled and exposed. Well done, Kanye.

George Bush doesn't care about people of color, poor people or old people.

WTH are you talking about!?!? tell me the difference in this admin and Clintons admin.... tell me REAL CONCRETE FACTS, about how Bush dosnt care about blacks, old people or poor people,,,

That is the most ignorant statement i have ever heard,, it sounds like you just hear the talking points of Jackson , Sharpron ect... and just obey,, no looking for facts

This is why a 27 year old wite guy on me gets so frustrated, it is like i can give you facts about everything i am saying , i will back up everything in detail... but talking to liberals is impossible, , its FEELING, not fact.. its not talking solutions, but problems...

I find that liberals have a ideaology and there is no changing it ! i agree that racism exists today.... i NEVER thought any different,,, i am just telling you that this time is not one of those times,, it is in NO ONES best interest to see American citizens DIE in the street, even for a BAD uncaring , white boy convervitive like myself.
Is mayor Nagin a RACIST??

IS THE GOVERNOR OF LA A RACIST!!! she is a democrat by the way,, why didnt Kanye West say that Blanco and Nagin dosnt care about black people!! SO MISGUIDED PEOPLE!!

NO!!!
NO!!!

this is not the case.

i have given time and money to help the people of Katrina, but when i here ignorant people like Kanye, it makes me angry!!

Mayor Nagin, had 500 school buses that HE DIDNT USE to evacuate people, and could have!! How many lives did he cost New Orleans .... is he a racist!!!

i give up

What Kanye said was so true, the people of New Orleans were abanndoned, and most of the folks who are suffering are Black. Why, cuz BLack people in this country have been exploited and enslaved for centuries, all the wealth they generated went to the big families who now run this country, and the descendents of those slaves were left with squat; thats why, history, cause and effect people. The only value they have to Bush and the powers that be are looking good to the public, otherwise I really think they don't care. Helping PREVENT this disaster presented no profitable solution at the moment, if people would take their head out of their @$$ for a moment and look in the future, this disaster could have been avoided, but no, the rich said "I wanna buy the biggest mansion in mansion land today, screw the people of New Orleans and all the other communties around there" Kanye is right on, and its about time people started hearing the truth and not the garbage on the so called free press.

Mayor Nagin ( a black man), had 500 school buses that HE DIDNT USE to evacuate people, and could have!! How many lives did he cost New Orleans .... is he a racist!!!

ANSWER M SOMEONE

Why weren't NORTA's 364 buses used to ferry poor people out of New Orleans before Katrina hit?

If each bus could hold just 60 people, NORTA's 364 buses had the capacity to take almost 22,000 peope out of harm's way per trip. Given that Nagin ordered the compulsory evacuation of the city two days before the storm hit, there was sufficient time for more than one trip - sufficient time to move tens of thousands of the city's poorest residents out of New Orleans by bus before Katrina arrived.

TELL ME WHY IS NAGIN NOT A RACIST!?!?!

HE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE

USING KANYE WEST'S LOGIC

Mayor Nagin (black man) cares about black people least of all

He could have saves 20,000 peoples life

I have to comment on this, like everyone else. True EVERYONE (and anyone who thinks that our entire government is made up of white people is silly) involved in the Katrina matter acted slow, but it is the height of stupidity to say that america doesnt care about black people. you want proof? how2 about affirmative action where a person of a minority race gets extra points on their score to get into college, simply because they are a minority. not based on their merit. I work at two companies with several minority people. one is a major engineering firm, where one of the best and most helpful CADD guys in the office is a black guy. i think hes a pretty good guy. the other is a store where out main shift manager (who is younger than i, and does not yet have a college degree) is muslim and does a great job of what he does. it makes no sense to say that america doesnt like black people, mostly from our politics. further look at it from an economics point of view. if i run a company, i want the best people in the field to be working for me, so i make more money. whatever my personal feelings about other races are, if a black guy is the top geologist in the world, i want him on my payroll. kanye west is not brave or any of the other things that people have said about him. he has done more damage to the image of black people than anything that "white america" could have done. when i hear comments like that i can only think that it is whining because he didnt get what he wanted. you dont hear jews talking about how bad they have it, and they are probably the brunt of most ethnic jokes in the united states, along with the polish people. kanye west, get over yourself. minorities, stop thinking that you are owed something and earn it on merit like everyone else.

Sure, sure, everybody's a racist; everybody hates the poor, downtrodden innocent black folks, the kindly darkies that rape, pillage, loot, ruin whatever they can get their hands on, that live on government assistance generation after generation, then screech "RACISM!" ay the results of problems of their own making. What about the whites, the hispanics, the asians, the natives americans, and everyone else that was affected by this tragidy?
Am I a racist? It's getting awfully hard not to be.

"Jesus Christ Hates People."

I have sat here and read what you guys have said. I think Kanye West should have been a little less vocal. I think he was acting out of love for his country and love for the hurting people of New Orleans and other areas which were hit by Katrina. He was trying to open our eyes to the injustices that are prevalant in America. His last comment was unneccesary and only his opinion. Because he is very famous, his opinion is much more than just his opinion. Pres. Bush hasn't done a good job, isn't doing all he can do, as is generally a bad president. I wouldn't go so far to say that he doesn't like black people. What this blog should truly be about is thinking about the poor, the starving, and the homeless. We should be spending our time trying to help them and sending positive thoughts and prayers in their direction. Black or white, they are hurting. Whether it is or isn't about race, debating isn't going to help them right now. The focus should remain on these people until they get the help they need. I value all of your opinions. I beg of you to contribute all you can, to put yourself in their position, and to pray for them, our country, and our government.

superfunk77

Your comments aren't helping anything. I'll pray for you.

George Bush doesnt like CRACK people!

Have any of you MORONS who are backing up what Kayne said ever been to New Orleans. You say that there are still way more black people down there stranded than white people. Well, I hate to break the news but most of New Orleans' population is black... How does that make a difference? It doesn't. It is obvious that Kayne did not inteligently think through what it was that he said. Though I am a white person, I still have several friends that are black, hispanic, and asian. It does not really matter what color your skin is as to what kind of relief you are given. The fact is that New Orleans knew that this would happen one day. They knew that the levies were outdated and that practically the whole city was below sea level.

Everyone is so quick to pass judgement on the government when the govenment is only trying the best they can to help. Does any one know what kind of logistics it takes to relocate all those people and also to move the massive amounts of water and food through an area thats transportation grid has been so heavily devistated. The fact is that many of these people knew that the storm was coming and did not leave. They were warned and did not heed the warnings. If they got stuck in the floods, it is their own faults. They could have gotten out like many others and decided to take the risk. Well these are the consequenses for takeing these risks. it is noones fault that people are down there trapped and dying. If you really want something to blame, blame the F'ing Hurricane. that is what did all the damage.

We, as Americans have got to stop looking for the damn scapegoat all the time and just realize that there are some things that are beyond our control. Anyone who would try and take such a disaster and turn it into a racial issue is an idiot and only undermining the relief efforts.

There are way too many celebrities out there trying to blame others and telling us, the lower and middle class to give as much as we can. WTF? They have a lot more money than we do. If you are so damn concerned why don't you sell that $10 million house of yours and donate that to the effort. In stead they give $100,000 and say that they helped. I know people much worse off than them that gave all but about $150.00 in their savings account. Now that is generous. When you are willing to REALLY give all that you can in stead of giving a small fraction of what you have and thinking your that cat's ass. Come on people, are these really people that we want to look up to? I sure don't want my kids looking up to these snotty superficial bitches in Hollywood.

Sorry to see how many people bought into Kanye West's B.S. On the other hand, it was somewhat encouraging to see that a lot of you haven't been brainwashed by MTV, college propoganda and other pop-culture icons into falling for that same old tired worn-out rant. Of course it was frustrating that it took so long to get help to the victims, but how does that translate into some big racial conspiracy? The federal government's putting up $51 billion...the most ever for any natural disaster in the U.S. or the world. The private sector is also volunteering millions in dollars and man-hours. I'm sure none of this will be good enough for Kanye and his idol-worshipping followers, but they obviously have their minds made up...only willing to look at the world in black and white. So who are the real racists?

James and others,

The reports have clearly stated that Mayor Nagin called for evacuations. My question to you is how do you remove people quickly and efficiently that do not want to be removed due to a "possible" impending threat. Even though people were told to evacuate because of the possibility that major damage could occur, most evacuees have been saying that there was very little time to execute a full blown evacuation ("less than 72 hours" a couple said on my local news channel recently). Looking at things from a "insiders" point of view really gives you a different point of view on the matter. The couple that I saw on the local news channel said that there was just a very short turn around time between the development being released that Katrina was no longer a tropical storm, but actually a hurricane of mass proportions.

I find it really odd that none of the LA locals have been accusing Nagin of foul play, and I believe the reason for that is because he has remained tirelessly with the people of his city, and has stayed at the heart of all the struggle. Blanco sure in the hell hasn't. Why am I seeing more of the mayor of N.O. than I am of the Governor?

Situation similar to a boss stepping out for an early lunch and leaving the clerk to mind the store; well if the store burns down whose responsibility was it to have been there?

Talk about the busses all you want. I work for the federal government and anyone who does or has knows that nothing ever gets done within due time, and funds within the last few years thanks to Bush's administration are long overdue to underfunded programs (DHS for instance). Those busses wouldn't have made any damn difference. How would you even coordinate such a large removal of people who were obviously then, and still are unwilling to go?

Explain that to me and then tell me about some damn busses!

How would you have personally gone about evacuating 22,000 people JAMES? Would you have detailed every single officer in your city to helping the old, the young, those with medical needs, etc. to loading busses with people and their belongings? If the people in LA had less than 72 hours from the time that hurricane Katrina was announced as major disaster storm, how long would it have taken them to load and move each bus.

With regards to the "plan of action" I keep hearing all these ultra conservatives spout about if you knew anything about how this government is actually run, I think you would understand that the people who make these plans while yes they may be college graduates from Harvard or Yale they make these plans based on statistics, and numbers and as all you math majors out there know calculations can be a little off sometimes. No simulated projection can ever prepare you for a real live interaction with something of this magnitude.

The only people left to blame is Bush and his administration, which refused to give Nagin and his city the funds that they requested in order to be able to properly fix and maintain the levee systems. That city did not have the necessary personnel to handle an event such as this because they are halfway across the world, and even amidst the turmoil going on, and taking place on U.S. soil in the South I still know of a woman that is National guard that is being deployed to Iraq instead of LA. Explain this to me! Can't we halt in our war against "Terrorism" for one month to care for our "own"? But that isn't on Bush's agenda, and so no we can't.

How do you like those gas prices?

Are those Nagin's fault also. In past cases of emergency president's have called for a cease in gouging at the pumps and locked down prices of fuel to stop the very thing that we are experiencing today. Why hasn't Bush done the same thing to help out America as his predecessors once did? Bush instead tells American's that we will just have to understand that gas prices are rising. Who is profiting from all of this? Bush, or OPEC?, or Bush & OPEC?

Why is it that every bad move this man makes, it's already being awaited upon by the public media. You can just tell now what he is going to do before it even happens. After Rehnquist died didn't everyone just know that he was going to nominate his own candidate for Supreme court Chief Justice. How the hell do you just bypass everyone else in the running for that position, and give the job to someone with almost no experience in working on the Supreme court panel of judges?

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you guys only see problems with anyone who is not in your political party, if the President was LCinton , probablly the SAME thing would have went down, and no one would be critisizing him,,, admit it

ypu are blinded by ideaology

ideology?? For what a political party? For Kanye West? not at all, and I think you have things a little twisted. You have to live the life before you can begin to understand the rights, and privileges of a second hand citizen.

And doesn't Kanye do so very much to uplift our people? (and I'm not talking about lifting a 40 oz, either.) Doesn't he lift up and empower our women? Oh yes!!! I would just LOVE for my eight year old gifted and talented daughter to be one of his video hoochies instead of an ingrate like Condoleeza Rice. The very people who were wading through foul, toxic water only to lay in squalor for 4 days with no food or water or air conditioning are the ones who use their public assistance checks to buy his music. (Funny how they can survive those horrors, but can't work 8 hours a day.) My mother and father worked two jobs each to keep up with our bills, but that was another time in history where personal pride and fortitude meant something, and we didn't have such a welfare minded people. Welfare is absolutely the WORST thing that has ever happened to our people. TAKE CARE OF YOURSELVES BROTHAS AND SISTAS...TAKE CARE OF YOUR BABIES...GET MARRIED AND STAY MARRIED. WORK ONE OR TWO OR THREE JOBS IF YOU HAVE TO! IT IS NOT THE PLACE OF THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE CARE OF YOU. YOU HAVE TO DO IT YOURSELF. (Yes, I'm begging.) I love you.

Kanye's comments are about as narrow minded as I've seen in recent days. Why is it that anytime people are inconvenienced and blacks are involved, well heck, it must be racism! BS if it is! What about doing something to help themselves? Perhaps it's true they just went from the southern plantation to the government plantation. And look at what happened inside the superdome; children were molested, women raped, people murdered, feces smeared on the walls, piles of garbage 5ft high, dead people mutilated. And when the police tried to enter the superdome they were shot at! If the superdome contained mostly white people there's no way all of this would happen. Look at how poeple behaved after 9/11. Far fewer blacks, far fewer problems! Oh but how dare I point this out - how dare I say something so politically incorrect? Because my definition of political correctness is this: "politcal correctness means lying to yourself so you can feel good about having a problem." I'd rather face the problem, fix it, and move forward. but it's kind of hard to fix something when blacks refuse to accept that they are part of the problem and therefore need to be part of the solution. Nope, it must be whiteys fault. No wonder racism won't go away!

The truth still remains the same. Weatherman said a hurricane was coming..These things do not break on a dime and go left. People had ample warning to react and protect. Now granted, you have a right to stay and protect your home but for those who could not get out. Nothing was done for them. Services were not set up till after the storm did its damage. What?FEMA thought it would just be a downpour. The organizations that were set up for this one reason - To protect those who need help need an invitation - to do their job. It should not take a rapper (but it did) to get people to see how our American government is shady and if you don't have the big bills then you don't get the big help. Isn't N.O a democratic state. I could go on but I digress

coppelia,

You seem very concerned with the way Video's "portray" black women in hip-hop? Yet you seem to not understand that what is being "portrayed" is not all black women, rather a type of black woman. From a black males perspective a woman is a goldigger when she pursues a man for his financial assets. If you were to teach and raise your daughter better than that there would never be any issue of what type of woman she is.

If you ask me it is not the black male rap artist that is to blame for some black women's misconduct's it is the lack of positive black women role-models taking a stand a showing young sisters what be a woman is all about. Look at Whitney Houston, I bet before the Bobby controversy you would not have minded your daughter following in those footsteps, but what kind of example is Whitney setting now by being strung out on cocaine. If you would agree that a man must teach a man to be one, where does it say that a man must also teach a woman to be a "Lady". If this was all true then what role does the Matriarch play in black culture today?

Condoleeza Rice is a puppet. A token black face that is used for the purposes of reasoning with the black community. Powell stepped down because he knew what was going on was wrong, and Condoleeza was all to quick to step right into his place. No doubt... Condi is a very intelligent woman, but obviously not smart enough to realize that she is being used (or she doesn't care). It is very unfortunate that she does not have the respect that Powell had, or else she might have succeeded in capturing the attention of the black community for the Bush administration's purposes.

"IT IS NOT THE PLACE OF THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE CARE OF YOU. YOU HAVE TO DO IT YOURSELF. (Yes, I'm begging.) I love you."

How can you make such critical, degrading comments about a group of people from a demographic area that you probably know nothing about. One thing I agree with you about "sista" is that times have changed, but speaking from a young black males perspective once again, I would like you to see how hard it is finding ONE job let alone two, or three in today's economy.

What the hell is the government for if not to help the people in their times of need. Do you honestly think that if people weren't on welfare that the government wouldn't find some other way to justify "taxing that ass!" every year. Be Real!!!!

so much ignorance its unbelievable.ignorance is bliss! know one wants to take a look at the local government , like the mayor and the governer, both liberal democrats I might add. the governer fought the federal government 5 days prior to the hurricane about the national gaurd. if we had a Guillianni there do you think this would have happened. 70% of the people left before hand and the 30% that stayed were told to leave is that the feds fault to , no that was a choice . Now I understand that some were ill and couldnt help themselves but lets be real this is a NATURAL disaster. Do you think the government is suppose to be able to move every single person. People have to be more responsable for themselves and get the government out of our lives not be more dependant. Its just all backwards. everyones ideology is F****d up. We were originally a constitutionally limited republics and thats what we should be. More power to the states and less to the feds. Where were the local representatives.

HEY SUPERFUNK77,

GO BACK TO THAT "PUBLIC UNIVERSITY" AND GET YOUR MONEY BACK!!! LOL

AND STOP LIVING IN YOUR MOM'S BASEMENT!!

ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO NEED THE MOST PRAYER IN THIS WORLD. YOU PROBABLY SAY YOUR NOT A RACIST AND YOU PROBABLY HAVE "BLACK" FRIENDS TOO!! LOL

YOUR A JOKE AND SO ARE ALL YOUR COMMENTS YOU HAVE MADE AND ANY THAT YOU PLAN TO MAKE IN THE FUTURE.

AS FOR ME DONATING.. HONEY I HAVE DONATED MY TIME AND MONEY TO THIS CAUSE DUE TO THE FACT THAT I HAD FAMILY THERE. I HAVE ALSO BEEN IN SHREVEPORT, LA FOR 4 DAYS YOU JACKAZZ AND SEEN THE DISASTER FIRST HAND!!

REGARDLESS OF WHO'S TO BLAME (MOTHER NATURE, PRESIDENT, GOV., MAYOR OR FEMA) ITS WHAT YOU PLAN TO DO NOW!! NOW IS WHAT MATTERS PEOPLE. THE DISASTER HAS HAPPENED. NOW ITS TIME TO GIVE BACK AND HELP.

PEACE AND BLESSINGS TO ALL!!

EVEN YOU SUPERFUNK77, YOU NON-SPELLING POOPHEADED MONKEY!! JUST KIDDING!! SIKE BITCHAZZ

Hey, Ya'll need jesus.

Whoa you went all the way to Shreveport, to seet he damage first hand. What is that 4 hours away from the coast. Big Deal !

I have just logged onto to this site - the comments are crazy. I live in london and to be honest very little coverage of Kayne's statement has been reported. to find out whats happening you have to log on - In addition the BBC who used to be brilliant at non-bias reporting, are actually not debating these fundatmetal political perspectives. irrespective of the line i have taken it is great to tune into the gusto of others! keep london informed! the poor coverage implies on conspiracy, and promotes ignorance!

I think everything kanye-west has to sasy is true. I fell someone neede to say something and It was said.
Go Kanye Go head get down

Hey "Ya'll need jesus" - You sound like a black person because when confronted with truths all you can do is either run from the truth, call people racists, or sling insults around (sometimes you try to be clever and use more than one of these tactics)- intelligent conversations are obviously beyond the scope of your capabilities. U No Wut Im Sayin'?? Oh yeah, stop using ALL CAPS - moron.

Ya'll need Jesus:

Thanks! that was pretty funny. I don't want to dis you or anything but you really really suck hard.

Next time you post. Stop. Actually think about what your going to type, and try to put something down that actually matters.

Reading your posts is the visual equivlent of getting ass raped by a dude wearing a barbed wire condom. I guess, what I'm trying to say is that you suck really really hard.

P.S. lol you called me a "poophead" ha ha!

oh yeah... why do you keep ripping on my spelling? And why are you in Shreveport??

Wow..you guys are great at pointing fingers. How about instead blaming people like you did in kindergarten why dont you worry about helping people. It also seems that whenever there is a problem some always has to bring up the race card. Come on people find a better and more educated excuse than race. Kayne West was way out of line and I'm sick of hearing ignorant people ,like yourself,praise him. He was at a benefit to help the people and raise money not to hear his waysided opinions. And why in the world are we even listening to what he says..he is a rapper for christ sakes. All i what to hear from him is his music. Did you even think that there might be a delay in help due to all the disease...hmm there's a new one. Ohh no let's just all be mindless and let a fricken rapper tell us his political view. Wake up people

wow. I can't believe how ignorant some of these comments are. Kanye a 'hero'? ok. if he is a hero then I shudder to think what this world will become. Ignorant 'rappers' who proclaim themselves to be so deserving of awards and praise that he throws temper tantrums when he is not 'awarded'. look if Kanye loves music so much, he should be happy he is able to share his words with the world...and that should be ENOUGH reward for him. How insecure is this 'backpack' wearing fool? demanding awards..c'mon. he is egotistical and not that talented. and pretty fly by nite as well seeing as though he trotted off to the 'money man' instead of staying steadfast to the guy who discovered him and gave him his big break. don't be fooled by this moron. he is nothing more than a flash in the pan who can not even put a few good sentences together properly. is that the car wreck or just sheer ignorance? talk about reverse racism. he is a shining example of it..at its BEST.

and that whole 'louis vuitton' backpack and preppy shirt look was totally ridiculous. get a clue. people like him are rotting the minds of Americas youth.

stop turning every single freaking horrific event into a 'race' issue. its not always a 'black and white' thing. that is unless the masses MAKE it appear that way.

As a black woman who loves her heritage, lets remember the Jewish community who endured way worse scenerios than that of slavery and learn from them. You never hear the Jewish community constantly reminding us of deathcamps and total humiliation. They ROSE ABOVE. and are now some of the wealthiest people on earth...why? because they don't sit around want pity for something that happened to their people as a whole. They got up got out and DID something with their lives instead of sitting around being lazy and depending on the government to give them handouts.

Equal opps people. equal opps.

Baby steps to the front door.
Baby steps to the front yard.
Baby steps to the vehicle.
Baby steps to the driver's seat.
Baby steps to the ignition switch.
Baby steps to the brake.
Baby steps to reverse.
Baby steps to drive.
Baby steps to the accelerator.
Baby steps to the road.
Baby steps to the road that will take you to the main highway.
Baby steps to the highway.
Baby steps to get on the highway that would head west to Texas or north towards Arksansas.
Any RESPONSIBLE anerican can perform this operation. It is not the governments jobs to hold our pinkies.
Thank You for your time

hey milloinaire....its called a pyramid scheme....and your paypal letter there..is a FRAUD!

Kanyes outbust was all for record sales, remember his sh*t came out just a few days before. Keeps him in the spotlight, kinda like all these stoopid celebs and their 'dating' or divorce catastrophies...just brings more attention to them and more $$$ to their wallets.

Kanye is a complete and utter TOOL. useless, stuttering, backpack wearing hunk of flesh.

oh and his artwork SUCKS.

Kanye needs to revisit the 2nd gade and learn how to put together complete sentences. What a joke! What's that?.....you think he has the right to express himself on national television? Yeah you're right...EXPRESS himself....Intelligently, and with dignity, not like a babbling 2nd grader in a spelling bee. "George Bush doesn't care about black people" What an Ignorant little man. He might as well have said "I am a retard"

KANYE WEST'S COMMENTS DONT REPRESENT ALL OF BLACK'S VIEWS,ONLY THE ONE'S WHOSE ALWAYS FINDING SOMETHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT.HE LOOKED LIKE A DAMN IDIOT UP THERE.

black people play the race card whenever possible. look at black comedians for example - ive never seen ONE black comedian not talk about race and white people negatively. white people died too. rednecks died too. im surprised youre not all blaming bush for sending katrina over here too. if this wouldve happened under clinton im sure there wouldnt be 1/2 of this backlash. because clinton didnt fix it either, now did he. this couldve happened a few years ago. i am in no way defending bush, but i am tired of peoples uneducated comments about him being so bad when they dont know the facts. if you know the facts and dislike him, more power to you. but you if just listen to what others say, then youre as stupid as the next guy.

i hate when blacks play the slavery card and act like THEY were slaves. stop acting pained - you werent a slave. thats like me constantly bitching and moaning about my people being in the holocaust and constantly demanded conpensation. SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY. maybe if you all stopped bitching so much and started DOING and trying to prevail then you wouldnt have quite so much to complain about.

kanye sounded like he was making it up as he went along. 'bush does not like black people' is like 'boys have cooties' GO RACE CARD

kanye did the right thing and anyone opposing to it, is a jackass not just white ppl are donating so shut the fuck up fo real..pissin me off..white ppl juz want to be the center of attention...ALL THE TIME

This page is obviously linked from a few republican websites because there are dittoheads cut and pasting talking points.

What Kayne said was his truth. It's a truth that a lot of people of different races can see. All he said about bush is that he DOESN'T CARE about black folks. It's clear that he doesn't, and neither have several administrations before him.

What I presume are the republican white folks talking about his wardrobe and grammar are missing the point. It's not the messenger, it's the message.

PS Baby Steps - some folks are too poor to own vehicles.

Alejandra-- shiiiit, more like BLACK people want to be the center of attention...ALL the time. stilllllllll bringing up that slavery shit. GET OVER IT.

just as GORACECARED and TATAYNA said:
REMEMBER THE JEWISH COMMUNITY..TATAYNA said it best, right here:

lets remember the Jewish community who endured way worse scenerios than that of slavery and learn from them. You never hear the Jewish community constantly reminding us of deathcamps and total humiliation. They ROSE ABOVE. and are now some of the wealthiest people on earth...why? because they don't sit around want pity for something that happened to their people as a whole. They got up got out and DID something with their lives instead of sitting around being lazy and depending on the government to give them handouts.

oh and PS..talkikng about wanting attention. I didnt see any news coverage of WHITE men looting televisions. white men 'gangs' going around RAPING and killing their OWN black sisters. shit, ask me, those fu*kers DERSERVE TO DIE.

Kanye's real comment was "George Bush hates black people" I think it is crap that the media and the entire internet media population have altered his comments to make it seem less offensive. Goerge Bush does hate black people. So does his mom.

I hope that Kanye can channel his energy. He now has a voice and people are waiting to hear what this young "Black Man" will say next and what impact it will have on the younger generation. I have mixed opinions about what was said , when it was said but my overall opinion is it did more good than harm. Just look at this blog it has everyone (white, black, young and old) talking.

can some one help me i have to write a paper about this: will hurricane katrina be remembered mainly as the worst disaster in our history or the worst response to a disaster in our history? why?

Bush really does not care about black people cuz if he did he wouldnt have been on vacation during the storm and helped as soon as he got back even if that meant cutting his vacation short. and forcing people to leave homes at gunpoint?

all you racist white bitches go to hell if you got a problem take it up wit me kanyes number one fan.
conclusion is
BUSH HATES ALL BLACK PEOPLE INCLUDING KANYE!

this is dry now! how long are you guys prepared to go around in circles: race card no race card! hates blacks loves blacks! insensitive white people compassionate white people.

widen the debate: what about the medias decision to censor mr west's comments; or the prioritisation of aid relief; or just how much weight cris rock has put on!

We should all be concerned in helping these people as opposed to complaining to others comments, assumptions etc. These are humans not objects. This is definately something the goverment should have jumped onto within hours, not days. Rather than the president constantly being on vacation, he should be paying more attention on what this country needs. Did he actually donate anything out his pocket?? What did he contribute to this disaster?

Kanye West is as unintelligent and uninformed as a rapper can get and still have sucess. He could barely put together a sentence. His thoughts were all over the place.
It doesn't take courage to speak without sense.
I am black and tired of embarrassing idiots speaking out for me.
Many blacks and whites are doing so much to help the victims of this disaster. Kanye West is ticking off people who could most likely help just because he doesn't like the president.
There is lots of blame to go around including the princess Governor.
The Mayor was supposed to use city buses and school buses to evacuate people. He wanted more upscale greyhound buses and let the city buses get flooded with toxic water.
This mayor is worse than Marion Berry.

This is just stupid! What an idiot Mr West. Instead to call in order LETS CALL TO REBELLION AND AD TO THE MISERY OF THE PEOPLE that have lost EVERYTHING with your salty and stupid comments!!!There are many hispanics over there and have you heard about the pittiful sentence " Its because we are hispanic" BOo hoo! funny that the same black were the ones shooting at the helicopters when they were trying to help , the same ones killing a rapping at the Astro Dome or the same ones that "bush don't care about" stealing from Walmart. I wonder why he didn't mention those episodes...Hmmmm! It is sad that this artist and some politicians instead of using their power to reach people and give hope decide to use this opportunities to complain and carry on with the old tune ..." is because we are black" The whole nation and the world are contribuing helping the people affected in that area and no one had said something like.. " My donation is only for the whites" or anything like that. What a slap in the face for me and the rest of the world willing to help without even thinking about races . How sad for us that are giving a helping hand to the people in need regardless of their color or origen and these idiots bring more misery to a very tragic event. It is about time that the black community steps up in a different way . I am tired of their winning attitud thinking that because their black they deserved a different treatment. I am in the south and there are plenty of black people that I admire because they refused to follow this trend and decide to make a better future for themselves. They are in positions of power, making very good money and they are truly example and inspiration for anyone and any race. Why don't we see the mexicans or the Puerto Ricans or the Colombians complaining?? Instead we see them doing all the jobs that the blacks and whites don't want to do . Why?? because they have pride and the have a desire to succeed despite the circumstances.They don't sit there and complain about what it was done to the great,great,great,great,great ,grand mother. Trust me, complete hispanic nations during the inquisition were abused , violated and slaved by Europeans and you don't see them going to Spain or Germany to claim benefits for the abuse and suffering they did to their people hundred of years ago. They embrace who they are, learn about their past ,respect their culture and the others and instead of making excuses with their past they look forward to their future... IT IS ABOUT TIME TO WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!! You complain about racism, but you are the ones who are asking for a different treatment...isn't that being racist????

It's amazing how many people from other parts of the world want to help, I read an article online stating that US officials are not allowing international help onsite (German in this case), due to not have proper authorized papers. Come on, these are our people that need the help, who cares about authority, the more help the better!!
A German military plane carrying 15 tons of military rations for survivors of Hurricane Katrina was sent back by U.S. authorities. This is ridiculous!!

yea i agree with kanye on this issue that bush doesnt like black people, but he just made himself look like another dumb nigga... i mean live TV... he shoulda said that shit on his album..all that did is create political leverage for bush to now address the large black community in new orleans..for being so smart, he acted in an immature manner that only impressed the hip hop police, and 80% which are probably un-registered voters and sit behind the keyboard all day and bitch and dont go out and rock the vote.. and let people like bush get elected. bottom line: kanye made a good point, on the wrong television station, during the wrong hour, with the wrong target crowd watching.. he coulda went about this a better way at the relife show or something..anyways... kanye sucks at rapping i cant understand him thru his wires.. stick to making beats homie. and buy that nigga a new spit guard for his mic

OK Marc
Baby steps to being born
Baby steps to school
Baby steps to making good grades
Baby Steps to getting a HS diploma
Baby Steps to prevent pregency
Baby Steps to getting a job
Baby Steps to buying a car

Any RESPONSIBLE American can perform these functions!

What is RESPONSIBLE to you Marc?

First I would like to say that I am not a Kanye West fan. I find he can portray an image to a song such as 'diamonds from sierra leone', and not talk once about the subject. However, when he does talk about a subject he means to talk about he speaks his mind which I admire. Saying what he did is a positive. It could either expose bush, having even more people wanting him out of office, or it mite just put bush in an awkward postion forcing him to care more about the black community. Speaking issues on an album only gets to a certain number of people who listen to hip hop which can sometimes be to few. saying something when unexpected on live television brings people who normally wouldn't listen to kanye such as myself to hear something that needed to be stated. I think we need to have more celebrities who say what they really feel, instead of constantly hearing puppets on the TV. Some people may agree with what I say, some people may not. But lets get one thing straight the argument here is about freedom of speech, not white and black who had it the worst in the past. Arguments like that lead to racism problems that don't make sense in the end. In my last words all I can say is freedom of speech is a right that should be used.

Boy, you people sure do waste a lot of time TALKING about this problem. Who cares what Kanye said!?! Who cares what Sharpton said!?! Who cares what you or I say? The good people of the Gulf Coast (most of which don't know what people are saying because they have NOTHING right now!), don't care what people are SAYING. They want action, and until everyone of us can say that we took action, then we are just wasting there time.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-MEN!

Well, as a white person myself I must say that I do agree with Kanye (although the comment might have been able to be made at a better time, it could have also helped if he expanded on the issue a little bit). It definitely seems that Bush has forgotten about blacks and the poor in American society (especially with all his cuts in funding). Also, I must say that I am disgusted with the media's portrayal of blacks in the hurricane disaster. I have personally heard myself from national TV "blacks looting this...blacks looting that" when that simply is not true. And lastly, the effort to save the people of New Orleans (mostly blacks) was pitiful to say the least. 500 buses could have been used, they were not. US Officials sent back a German plane with supplies to help the people (WHAT THE HELL WAS THE US THINKING!!!). I don't know was the government is doing but DAMMIT, SWALLOW YOUR FUCKING PRIDE.

It's unfortunate that Kanye wasn't articulate to appeal to the Americans that are "educated" The reason for the uncertainty in his voice; is clearly because he has a conscious. The fear of the controversy that lied ahead was weighing on his mind. I am elated he had the courage to start the controversy, that he's begun. With that said, I must say that I do believe considering the slow efforts of the ENTIRE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT, that they were not in a hurry to save lives considering whose lives had to be saved.

Walking beside and shaking hands with Blacks doesn't doesn't mean you are fond of them. WHERE does this thinking originate?

OK. But the whole thing is that we as a group of "Blacks" must stand in formation to create a life for ourselves helping ourselves. It's time for us to stop pointing the finger, that's the easy way out and furthermore it stops progression.

We must begin to read more, Believe in "God" do his will, and "WORK" to rebuild the black family. The task will not be easy, but we are need of repair.

And to touch on looting, you have small percentage of (drug addicts & poor black females/males) who see an opportunity to satisfy their hunger (drug and materialism) it's terribly incorrect to steal "thy shalt not steal". But in a time of need, why would a policeman divert his attention from saving someone's life, to saving someone's merchandise? Unless the law feels that the merchandise is valuable than the life that's calling for help.

In essence we have larger fish to fry.

My question is Why wasn't the buses docked in poor neighborhoods when the evacuation order was issued?

Kanye West was also the same guy who determined AIDS was a man made disease which was placed in Africa to kill off black people (quote from Live 8 concert)... he was also the same guy who said crack was delivered to the poor communities of urban America to break up the Black Panther organization...

Pretty smart comments made from a guy who chooses to play the racial card versus maybe picking up a book or following the real current events of the world...

Can't wait until he tells America Abe Lincoln was actually a black man who wore an inch thick of white make-up each day when he woke up... that's obviously the only legitimate reason why he chose to sign the Emancipation proclamation... Hey Kanye, do you even know what that is??? I'll give you a free gold chain necklace, a brand new Escalade (Spinners, of course), and 6 fine women for your next predictable video if you get the right answer.

Trey, you sound like an asshole that cant handle truth

I wonder HOW MUCH did Kanye donate to the effort?!? Celene Dion (who btw is NOT black) donated $1M......

As for the looting, come on now,.... taking food and water is one thing,....but TVs and toys! Get real people!

And further more, considering that a CAT 5 Hurricane is coming your way, don't you think that people would take SOME kind of action to be prepared?!?

Heck, they were looting on TUESDAY! You ran out of food and water OVERNIGHT?!?

The majority of the looting had nothing to do with the hurricane.

All this talk about the poverty level in N.O. and the comments that Barbara Bush made.

The fact of the matter is that a great number of these people ARE better off than they were before the storm.

How much money did hip hop celebs send to N.O. before the storm? Pretty tough question considering most of the people there have probably spent rent money to buy their cds.

Trey I am reposting this for your critique because it's obvious that you don't read before making comments. After you read please respond to what you have read and let me know if his comment about AIDS were so idiotic:

One more thought for those that said Kanye was stupid for saying is his lyrics that the government was responsible for AIDS in the black community.

I always say do your research before you speak even if you don’t believe Kanye’s conclusions if you researched you would understand the landscape from which his conclusions were drawn. One you talk as if the government is above spreading diseases in the Black Community. Check your HIStory, can you say Tuskegee 1932 – 1972?

The Tuskegee study of untreated syphilis in the Black male is the longest non therapeutic experiment on human beings in medical history. The strategies used to recruit and retain participants were quite similar to those being advocated for HIV/AIDS prevention programs today. So his conclusions were drawn from that bit of HIStory.

So don’t get all mighty and think your government is above the bullshit! You don’t have to agree but don’t knock Kanye for what he believes especially when HIStory is on his side. The point I’m making is Kanye’s statements in his lyrics aren’t coming from some misguided rich guy it’s supported by your governments HIStory.

Check it out and get back with me but for those who are just throwing around sterotypical insults please save the time and space on this blog for those who actually want to itelligently debate this issue.

There is pleny of blame to go around, starting the the local government, then going to State, and the Federal Government. However, actually drawing a line between what has happened and that Bush doesn't care....is a stretch to say the least.

The problem with most Americans today is that they think we are entitled to something....entitled to whatever they need. While we should do EVERYTHING that we can to help those who were affected, we should be careful to not generalize too much. Kanye's comments were not just directed at the areas in the hurricane's path, but to people all over the country. He made it sound as if GW was saying to himself....'Well...they're black, let them sweat it out for a bit.'

If you want to believe that GW is a racist, go ahead. But think about what being a racist really is. Do you honestly believe that a man is his position could flagerently disregard a group of people for race only? Nevermind that the black community has been more represented in politics in his administration than any other in history.

There is a process to what happens in a natural disaster. This has never happened before, so should anybody really be surprised that this happened? Everybody knew that if a category 5 hurricane hit New Orleans it would be terrible to say it mildly. Even the mayors office released a statement saying that if such an event would occur, there would be a minimum of 120,000 people that would 'be on their own'.

Mostly why Kanye's remarks are so bad, is that he brought issues that don't even belong here, to the forefront. What's even worse, is that there are a huge number of ignorant people defending what he said. Sure...he has the right to say whatever he wants, but does anybody measure their words any longer? Really thought about what they were saying and how it would be interpreted by others?

The problem with too many liberals is that they cannot stick to the issue, they drag whatever they can into an arguement to gain leverage. Instead of being positive and actually providing a solution, they find that just complaining seems to be enough.

Somewhere along the line Democrats have lost focus on what is important. Perhaps this is why they've managed one two term President, and two total Presidents in the past 35 years. Jimmy Carter is a great man, just a poor President. I have no issues with Bill Clinton that I will punish him for during his administation. Sure, there are things I think he could have done differently, but why hang the guy for an honest mistake. I will ALWAYS side on that of the President. Even if I dissent I will support him/her, because that is what they do. I know nothing compared to them, and neither do any of you.

People will jump on any attempt to bash Bush, but in reality it's very counter productive and harmful to the process.

Republican and Proud, it's called accountability and anyone who puts blind faith in someone by virtue of their position is not a person worth debating.

That's hilarious! You are the problem! You stand for nothing the hell with principle let our President lead us where he may he's the President. Jump off the bridge Mr. President because Republican and Proud will jump with you -- ignorant? Your statement was very ignorant.

What Kanye did was pull the blanket off of issues that you obviously want to keep covered class and race. You have to wonder why America the "most powerful" country in the world has a class of people living in those conditions. That is what I got from Kanye's statements. Substitue the word Black for poor and does that statement make more since now? Don't let the forest blind you of the trees if you want substitue Kanye for Newsweek, New York Post or some other prominent media who essentially agreed with what he said.

But I digress, Mr. follow the President, if that is not an issue we should discuss then lets talk about a President who goes unchecked and left to his own will. Weapons of mass destruction has he found any yet? Sure Sadam has done some things that are against human rights but didn't America do the same thing with slavery, remember?

That point was only made to say this; no one had to invade America for America to realize it was wrong -- right? There was a civil war and the pieces fail where they are today, not to say the effects aren't still being dealt with today but why not afford the middle eastern countries the same opportunity as America had to figure out what is right for them, on their own.

Our failure to see that we are creating the hate in the world that is spewing against America is exactly what's wrong with America and you my friend are part of that problem. READ my lips, AMERICA can be WRONG!!! But the great thing about America is that freedom of speech leads to change and remember it's not only the speech that you like that is free but the speech that you don't like is also free.

Kanye West is just an ignorant rapping idiot but he opened up a needed dialogue. I remember the old song "Lets hear it for the boy!!"
George Bush is just a goofy person but I doubt if he hates blacks because he nominates so many. He isn't racist or he would've closed the borders years ago. He is just a goofy president who had a screwed up FEMA director.
The school buses don't run anymore due to Nagin's incompetence.
The buses which could have been used to evacuate people are now flooded. They can be towed to a mobile home park now for the homeless.
The mayor wanted plush greyhound buses to move people. He should be impeached for not only shirking his responsibilities now but he is still trying to make others account for his errors.
The fumbling FEMA director is gone and I think he was the one responsible on the FEDERAL level. The state and local level should have some heads roll as well.

1.Bush with the families is called a “prefect photo op.”
2.The FEMA director was appointed by Bush with a made up resume and no real experience.
3.If Katrina had devastated Jeb Bush’s Florida the response by FEMA would’ve been 100% better.
4.What rich White man in his right mind really cares about Black America?

Anyone who is Black and criticized Kayne West is out of their mind! For all my "brothas" and "sistas" appalled at what the man said you obviously don't know anything about Bush and politics in general. Kayne doesn't have to be the most intelligent man on earth to make a statement from the heart. His sentiments are exactly the way most poor Black people feel about Bush and the administration, they just don't care! And don't talk to me about Colin Powell and Mrs.Rice, because they don't represent the general population of Blacks in America at all, both of them are nothing but tools. Just a couple of "bones" Bush threw at us just to be able to say, "Look I gave you something, didn't I?" I'm not saying West isn't a hypocrite, but who isn't? And does that completely invalidate his statement? I think not, because it's the truth! I'm also not saying Bush doesn't care about poor people of different races as well, but most of the poor people in America happen to be Black. And don't come at me with "it's all their fault" either, because some things that were suppose to be right in this country just never got fixed. I'm tired of people trying to sugarcoat America, the sooner people start acknowledging crookedness and corruption within our government the sooner we can start making a real change. Or we’ll all be regretting it when the illusions fade completely and the country has faded with it.

You know proof and factual evidence goes a long way in any debate. As long as people continue to banter in a debate back and forth based on personal opinions and assumptions that are not founded on facts, its useless.

I saw a thread earlier talking about what happen in Tuskegee as supporting evidence that the US gov created AIDS to kill blacks as stated in Kanye's lyrics. The fact is that the researchers did NOT give the men syphilis, they didn't treat them adequately. Their lifestyles led them to getting the disease.

There is no factual evidence that AIDS was created to kill blacks and to 1. suggest it based on "who knows what", and 2. to support and repeat a suggestion based on "who knows what" is just plain stupid!

Oustide of commenting after every controversial event that has taken place, what have we as a race of people done to resolve any issues?

No really, think about it, black leaders show up on the scene whenever there's a controversy and as soon as the excitement dies down everything is back to normal and they are waiting on the next controversial event.

At what point will we REALLY come together as a race and REALLY strive to make a change? There as certain behaviors that we support that is destructive to our own welfare. Are we addressing these behaviors? No!

Everyone is too busy enjoying life and doing whatever suits them regardless to how immorale or destructive it may be. We need to get tired of being victims of every cause!

Sure there is some corruption in government, just like there is corruption in our neighborhoods and in our churches. There's definitely a double standard that highlights the corruption everywhere but within our own ranks.

Except for some of his political comments at the end, the mechanics of what should take place seem correct. The one thing that came out in the news yesterday is that the levees didn’t break. It was a couple of places in the canal walls that broke. They were only a couple of feet thick and are entirely under the control of the City of New Orleans. It will be interesting to see the results of the Congressional investigation that will surely come…..

The procedure:

Only the Governor can call out the National Guard...I have not found anything that tells us when the Louisiana Governor called them out... Bravo to Texas for stepping up so quickly and generously.

In case you aren't familiar with how our government is SUPPOSED to work.
The chain of responsibility for the protection of the citizens in New
Orleans is:

1. The Mayor
2. The New Orleans director of Homeland Security (a political appointee
of the Governor who reports to the Governor)
3. The Governor
4. The Head of Homeland Security
5. The President

What did each do?

1. The mayor, with 5 days advance, waited until 2 days before he
announced a mandatory evacuation (at the behest of the President). Then
he failed to provide transportation for those without transport even
though he had hundreds of buses at his disposal.

2. The New Orleans director of Homeland Security failed to have any plan
for a contingency that has been talked about for 50 years. Then he
blames the Feds for not doing what he should have done. (So much for
political appointees)

3. The Governor, despite a declaration of disaster by the President 2
DAYS BEFORE the storm hit, failed to take advantage of the offer of
Federal troops and aid. Until 2 DAYS AFTER the storm hit.

4. The Director of Homeland Security positioned assets in the area to be
ready when the Governor called for them

5. The President urged a mandatory evacuation, and even declared a
disaster State of Emergency, freeing up millions of dollars of federal
assistance, should the Governor decide to use it.

Oh and by the way, the levees that broke were the responsibility of the
local landowners and the local levee board to maintain, NOT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT.

Observations:

The disaster in New Orleans is what you get after decades of corrupt
government going all the way back to Huey Long. Funds for
disaster protection and relief have been flowing into this city for
decades, and where has it gone, but into the pockets of the politicos
and their friends. Decades of corrupt government in New Orleans has
sapped all self reliance from the community, and made them dependent
upon government for every little thing.

Years ago the wetlands and swamps that nature designed to absorb the

onslaught of hurricanes that regularly hit the coastal regions were built

upon by developers bent on making a profit. Of course, government

gave them permits to do so and thus the natural barriers were virtually eliminated.

Political correctness and a lack of will to fight crime have created the
single most corrupt police force in the country, and has permitted gang
violence to flourish. The sad thing is that there are many poor folks
who have suffered and died needlessly because those that they voted into
office failed them.

Except for some of his political comments at the end, the mechanics of what should take place seem correct. The one thing that came out in the news yesterday is that the levees didn’t break. It was a couple of places in the canal walls that broke. They were only a couple of feet thick and are entirely under the control of the City of New Orleans. It will be interesting to see the results of the Congressional investigation that will surely come…..

The procedure:

Only the Governor can call out the National Guard...I have not found anything that tells us when the Louisiana Governor called them out... Bravo to Texas for stepping up so quickly and generously.

In case you aren't familiar with how our government is SUPPOSED to work.
The chain of responsibility for the protection of the citizens in New
Orleans is:

1. The Mayor
2. The New Orleans director of Homeland Security (a political appointee
of the Governor who reports to the Governor)
3. The Governor
4. The Head of Homeland Security
5. The President

What did each do?

1. The mayor, with 5 days advance, waited until 2 days before he announced a mandatory evacuation (at the behest of the President). Then he failed to provide transportation for those without transport even
though he had hundreds of buses at his disposal.

2. The New Orleans director of Homeland Security failed to have any plan for a contingency that has been talked about for 50 years. Then he
blames the Feds for not doing what he should have done. (So much for
political appointees)

3. The Governor, despite a declaration of disaster by the President 2 DAYS BEFORE the storm hit, failed to take advantage of the offer of Federal troops and aid. Until 2 DAYS AFTER the storm hit.

4. The Director of Homeland Security positioned assets in the area to be ready when the Governor called for them

5. The President urged a mandatory evacuation, and even declared a disaster State of Emergency, freeing up millions of dollars of federal
assistance, should the Governor decide to use it.

Oh and by the way, the levees that broke were the responsibility of the local landowners and the local levee board to maintain, NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

Observations:

The disaster in New Orleans is what you get after decades of corrupt government going all the way back to Huey Long. Funds for disaster protection and relief have been flowing into this city for decades, and where has it gone, but into the pockets of the politicos and their friends. Decades of corrupt government in New Orleans has sapped all self reliance from the community, and made them dependent upon government for every little thing.

Years ago the wetlands and swamps that nature designed to absorb the onslaught of hurricanes that regularly hit the coastal regions were built upon by developers bent on making a profit. Of course, government gave them permits to do so and thus the natural barriers were virtually eliminated.

Political correctness and a lack of will to fight crime have created the single most corrupt police force in the country, and has permitted gang violence to flourish. The sad thing is that there are many poor folks who have suffered and died needlessly because those that they voted into office failed them.

Kanye was only telling the truth and everyone knows it. The fact of the matter is Bush does not respect poor people and he does not catter to the needs of the poor. I am not saying all black people are poor, but majority of the blacks that were affected by the hurricane were from low-income households. If this country can out of its way to restore other cities and countries not even in the US then why not help your own.

hey fags, all you that think i should be impeached can just kiss my hairy white ass!
i havent done anything that is even close to being illegal so i can be looked at for impeachment.
IF you're all blood thirsty for impeachment, why dont you all look at getting rid of the NO mayor who would only cry and blame other people on tv for what "happened to her" or we could look at the louisiana gov! THAT WORTHLESS PEICE OF SHIT WOULDNT DO ANYTHING FOR ANYBODY EVEN IF YOU PAID HIM IN DRUGS! (trust me i know im the president, i know everything) so as i said kiss me ass, and support the government and our troops!
kill the mayor!

Nathan, well said. That's what I'm talking about,... state the facts!

Jessie Johnson, you're an idiot just like Kanye West! The government is pouring so much money into New Orleans and the OTHER affected areas that is not funny. Yet, you continue to speak as though "nothing" is being done. If you stop and think N.O. has always been only one really bad storm away from the state that they are currently in. The city floods on a regular basis(hint: thats what the pumps are for) and I think its almost senseless to rebuild it.

Exactly what have you done other than complain on this thread?

Get Real! I don't care how much you rant here, in the back of your head the truth rings loudly. Bush has not displayed one characteristic that support a dislike for the poor.....black or otherwise.

I can't see how anyone can possibly make a sound judgement on the response of the federal government without properly investigating it. If someone came and hauled your butt off to jail for murdering someone in Chicago without an investigaion that would reveal that you have never been to Chicago, you would think its wrong. Well, to sit and make such a harsh judgement call on the president in the same manner is wrong.

You guys need to chill with the unfounded conspiracy theory because its unproductive.

Right ok slow people, all you Kanye haters can keep on hating him, i can see why many people may dislike him, but you cannot say, in any possible way that Kanye was being selfish with that brilliant speech. Sure there were many white people involved in the hurricane tradigy but the majority were poor black people. Kanye's words were verging on being slightly out of context but im sure anybodys words would be greatly magnified after seeing hundereds of people dieing on television due to the governments ignorance. You could tell he was angry and emotianol, and because of this he was being 100% honest, a rare occurence on live television. So agree with what he sayd or not, i think we should aprreciate his honesty because im sure as hell none of us on this forum have the balls to say something like that on television if we had the chance.
P.S. Kanye is a good rapper, but he is also blessed with a slightly annoying voice-end of

I don't hate Kanye, I just think he is an uninformed, illiterate idiot. George Bush doesn't control the Louisiana National Guard. George Bush didn't leave the busses behind to get flooded while people drowned in toxic water. The local governments failed. The FEMA guy sucked so he got the boot for not knowing that a hurricane was going on. That isn't racist that's just being a basic retard. Kanye West doesn't know the differents because he is just a step up from retard.
Once people look at the busses flooded out due to mayoral incompetence they may stop looking at the president as the devil.
Florida knows how to handle hurricanes but N.O. and Louisiana suck at it. Florida has better leadership ALL around. Louisiana should take notes from those who do it better.

Well said 'Curious'.

The reason that they will continue on this path is because it's a political opportunity to complain about Bush. It shouldn't surprise anybody that this is unfolding this way.

Kanye should have measured his words a bit. People are villified for making broad sweeping claims without any proof. He was going with his gut, and that's it, nobody should take his word as edict....cause it's just his opinion. The problem is that far too many people lack the mental capacity to make up their own mind. They just take something that some other person said, and recite it like its truth.

To the ignorant "Stop Kanye Hating."

Man, what Kanye said doesn't have anything to do with him being honest. He's is honestly a fool!

His words were not slightly out of context, they were completely out of context!

Furthermore, I hope no one else does have the balls to make a complete idiot of himself on live tv!

As for the victims, they were poor in N.O. well before the hurricane. And, the death toll had nothing to do with the federal gov ignorance. More so, its due to the ignorance of the local government.

Do you really think that Kanye did any special? No! He's an idiot! President Bush had no direct effect on the speed of FEMA to the victims, it was Michael Brown. And he resigned because of his actions. What Kanye said is an idiotic statement be an idiotic person. He needs to learn the facts before he opens his mouth next time. This isn't rap, it's real!

The president has taken full responsibility for this mess even though most of the problems were due to failures on the local level.
He is a greater leader than anyone in Louisiana.
Kanye West can rest and go back to his crackpipe.

well all i can say is well done 2 kanye west, i live in london england and when i heard of his comments, i felt relieved that he had finally vocalised what a lot of people have been thinking but haven't had the opportunitiy to either voice it or had the whole world listening, i agree with the person who spoke of mike myers he didnt look frozen to me, i agree he probabbly was cheering him on. bush needs 2 wake up, its true there is not a lot that he can do, but 4 sum1 who has been put in power and had the audacity to go on various holidays on the upcoming weeks of 9/11 when he knew wat was going on shows hes not up 2 the task, he needs 2 b empeached and let sum1 who gives a damn about his country come forward. as 4 condaleeza rice, girlfriend has never been black she might have the skills but she has adopted the ways and styles of white people. more fool her. it makes me angry just talking about her. all praise to Colin Powell, he shld run america!!

big up kanye west and all the other celebrities who have stepped up 2 the plate to visit those in dire need, when wat they needed @ that time was to know that their president cared.

my prayers go 2 all those involved and God bless all those who donated and those who have had them in their prayers. May GOD CONTINUE TO GUIDE US ALL

AMEN

Tolu in London!

Shut up and worry about the homeless in London!

You're as big an idiot as Kanye West!

george bush is an idiot, its his fault, big ups to kanye west, GEORGE BUSH should b the 1 resigning

Today the governor rightfully accepted full reponsibility.
Kanye West is wrong because it was the faults primarily of the local officials to save people of New Orleans. The mayor rejected the schoolbuses for greyhounds and got neither. They rejected help from neighboring states and failed to follow their own evacuation plans.
Kanye West may have spoken from the heart but he has no evidence to support his views.
The National Guard would not shoot blacks unless their lives were at stake.
Blacks dislike Bush not the other way around.
This is just partisan foolishness.

George Bush is an idiot.

Kanye West is an idiot.
He didn't open any eyes by stating that George Bush doesn't care.

Wrong medium, partially valid message.

George Bush is a big fan of the well off. Local authorities should have done more. Many thi