Very interesting and impressive. All those people calling him arrogant (and I'm sure he is at times); need to keep in mind the courage it took for him to do that. Particularly, since much of White America doesn't want to hear anything about race and his album just came out. He could face a backlash, which makes it even more courageous. Thanks for the post--I have been unable to keep up because guests are at my house and my internet went down, so I appreciate it.

way to go kanye - as a white person myself, i have been so outraged by the (lack of) response by our government - george w should be impeached immediately. kanye was very very brave and spoke for more than just himself. let us reach out to each other across races and social boundaries to help -

Yikes, you go boy. although i do think that some of the people in New Orleans have completely lost their religion. he is basically right.

go kanye!

here's the clip:
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Kayne-West-Bush-Black-People.mov

oops, i just noticed those were clips youposted up to (i thought they were just reports about the TV appearance)

KNAYE IS NOW THE OFFICIAL "KING OF HIP HOP"

As someone who lives in New Orleans, I need to speak here. What Kayne said and did, while brave, was also rather foolish. I dont think the government reacted slow because of race, because many trapped people and dying people are also white. Although, I am quite infuriated by these slow reactions, they are far more due to FEMA and others than Bush(and this is coming from someone who doesnt really like Bush). The looting, for the most part, is terrible and should be punished. Those looting for food and water are doing absolutely nothing wrong, but much of the looting is not so innocent. It leading to the burning down of buildings(an entire Mall was burned to the ground yesterday), and in many pictures you can see these people breaking into drug stores for prescription drugs and alcohol, while other break into other stores, stealing clothes, shoes, and other non-essentials. These looters are pulling cops and workers away from rescuing others who are still trapped in their homes or on their roofs. How is that forgivable? I personally know people who have had their homes completely spared by the storm, but have since learned that everything of value in their home was carried off by looters. I also want to make it clear that the majority of Blacks down there in the city have done nothing wrong, they have been victims, just as my family and everyone else I know has(although many of them are going through alot more hell than I have in this experience).

GO KANYE!!!!!!!!!!

I mean really...how gully was that?

GO KANYE!!!!!!!!!!!

He didn't seem nervous. He seemed emotional.

Althought I don't disagree with the comments he made. I do feel it was very selfish and inappropriate for Kanye to make those comments. It just confirms that celebrities often take advantage of their camera time to express their thoughts, but without tact or intelligence. That program was intended to motivate people to donate. Kanye was discussing political issues, wrong show Kanye! This is a telethon for the Red Cross, not Crossfire or Politically Incorrect. Nothing he said motivated me to donate, it simply had me questioning what show this was. It makes me think of his story, he went shopping before thinking of donating. There is a pattern here of selfishness, he appears on a Red Cross telethon to express his political beliefs. Boy, he is definitely striking out. Good thing he has money to donate, hopefully he really does it.

I have to agree with Nino...this didn't make me want to donate.

I think mike myer's reaction really made that all the more special.

double post, i know, but i just read that they edited this out of the west coast broadcast

nino, what a shame you think that. it doesn't stop me from wanting to donate. rather, i am glad that someone spoke out about what is happening there.. if anything, it should make people want to donate more, seeing how worthless the state has been in providing for people's health and safety (what kanye is saying). i'm glad to hear people with brains who know to be critical of the implications of race and class in this whole mess, and why it's as bad as it is right now.

if anything, even if you don't agree with what kanye is saying (read: even if you have your head in the sand), that was the furthest from selfish i could think of. if he was being selfish, he woulda sucked up what he thought and simply delivered the uncritical lines they wanted him to spew out so that he could continue making his record sales without any trouble and shit like that. selfish? gimme a break!

i don't even like kanye generally, but i respect him all the more now.

lmao @ these sellouts trying to take away from Kanye....

*puts up black fist*

I finally have a reason to buy Late Registration.

Thank you, Kanye.

I’m feeling what missruckus is saying. Yes, maybe Kanye's delivery wasn’t completely thought out - some of his sentences were incoherent as hell. However, what I like about Kanye is that he is trying to make history understand that he is "different". Selfish? Maybe... or maybe not. Is it not true that blacks, in general, have been defined by the media, usually creating negative stereotypes that the rest of us have to deal with? So what if, perhaps, a young black man (representing all blacks mind you) gained the media's eye and told the world that he was different. Wouldn’t all blacks then be perceived as different. At least, that is what I hope the goal is. While most rappers (as well people in power) strive to "get rich or die trying", it seems like Kanye wants to "create change… or die trying". That sounds like a revolutionary to me. What Kanye said to me was, "our government is too busy with foreign affairs to respond to this event, therefore we must take control and help these people, our people. If we don’t, we know no one else will.” I cant speculate on why it's taking Bush so long, but if those people holding SOS signs on roofs were Bush's closest friends and allies we wouldn’t be having this convo!

I wanna buy his album just so he can write that on the back. He has a new fan in me.

Problem is Nino.... He said what everyone else is thinking. It seemed like some sick joke when that fact was pointed out on the internet. but once someone like him says it on tv.... Now everyone will remember that.

I've heard people ask cruel things like "Wasn't that a red state anyway?"

And let me also point out how many helicopters fly by and take photos for their newspapers of people trapped on their roofs... Not a damn one of them flew down there to HELP people. Shoot. The truth is in the doing not the saying. Notice how he even pointed out that he's been shopping selfishly and he's gonna change that? Now... when is he suppose to say something like that... when the people who don't wanna hear it aren't listening. HA! Now it's in their face... Like that?

Mike Meyers was scurred because Bush can still send his ass back to Canada...

since the cops are looting and all why dont we folks turn ou anger into resistance the whole fucking army is in iraq i say insurrect enough is enough!
everywhere all over the world ppl are resisting neoconservatism globalisation its time for regime change in washington let topple the whole deck of cards. plz dont just help others help yourselves.
if only ppl could become aware off the power they have u hear all in the mainstream media about anarchy in the streets of New Orleans, lets make it happen for real this time. the time has come for dubya to run like chicken to his junta allies.
and this isnt about class its about ppl and we must work together becouse united we can never be defeated.!

enough is enough/basta ya!

Get real, will you people!!!That was a disgrace to blacks what Mr. West said live on air! How many blacks are rolling up their sleeves and saying how can I help!!! In those poor neighborhoods EVERYONE was effected. I don't think the storm chose them and I don't think everything is George Bush's fault. Mayor Nagin of New Orleans used the language "I'm begging people to leave New Orleans" before the hurricane struck. How many people going to get help, shelter, shower and hot meals are going to turn around and volunteer to help? Is anyone grateful for the help they've gotten? No, Kanye West, Al Sharpton are first to criticize, let them jump into the fray and get down and dirty. No they want to poison the minds of blacks and keep people racially divided-well you can bet-MOST OF THE MONEY SO FAR HAS BEEN DONATED BY WHITES!!!!! Welfare has been taking care of most of these people for a long while, when do they give back? You yell and scream about not getting help, why are you not yelling about the looting and hold-ups AT HOSPITALS for drugs-holding up doctors who are trying to help people. Where's your soapbox response that Kanye?????? Why aren't you telling BLACKS to stand up and act with pride and help each other while help is coming instead of placing blame anywhere else. Shame on you and all the finger pointers, let people get their jobs done and shut the hell up and HELP! I was planning on giving every week, I made my initial donation and have been plugging donations on other blogs. Hey, Kanye you don't need my help, you were the last complainer I need to hear. I therefore will send nothing further. I'm sure donations dropped off after your remarks---SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BOYCOTT KANYE!!!!. SEND HIM TO NEW ORLEANS! If you think he's some kind of hero, you have your priorities wrong. Everyone wants equality! ACT with equality.

Last night, instead of following NBC's script, Kanye let his emotions come to the surface and spoke the truth about a subject that Bush, the Republicans and the media have tried to cover-up. I happen to be a 57 year old Polish-German American and I don't like hiphop. I do greatly applaud the courage Kanye displayed in cutting through all of the window-dressing surrounding the horrible aftermath of Katrina to speak from his heart, something we hear all too little of nowadays. Thanks, Kanye.

ron chaplin-well good for you. did mr.kanye inspire a donation for the rescue efforts from you????

Oh come on. Kanye is an idiot. He is no leader. Some of the points were valid in that we were not doing enough. FEMA is to blame. They are the ones not doing their job. Bush is an easy misguided target (AND I DIDN'T VOTE FOR HIM or LIKE HIM, I'm just educated enough to really see what's going on). This is not a BLACK/WHITE thing... it's a people thing and Kanye was way out of line for his misguided comments and extreme lack of professionalism. If that's the way he "publicly speaks'" then the guy needed to pay better attention in school. He must need lots and lots of practice and buy out TONS of studio time to convey anything. Look at what's really going on people and not what this fool says.

If people are in need of your help and you can make a difference by donating money (I don´t know if you can...) should it affect you what Kanye says or does not say? Also, by saying that he went shopping before donating money I think he makes us think about how we all act. Thanks for making me think, Kanye!

There are alot of people hating on what Kanye did and saying that he cant speak properly. I'd like to see you go on the air and start speaking straight from the heart and not be nervous. What he did there was go out on a limb for what he beleives. What he did was risk album sales and popularity, the way the man eats, to call that selfish is not fair. He was honest and straight up with us saying he had just gone shopping and was going to donate, and if this clip didn't convince me to donate, nothing will. I used to respect him only as a rapper and producer, now i respect him as a revolutionary. one.

Kanye was wrong. There is nothing like his comments destroying the efforts of everyone to raise money and help all of the vicitims of New Orleans. Was his reason to go on the show really to pitch in and help his fellow man or to promote his own Political Agenda?

This is an outrage. When people are hurting, Kanye is of the intelligence to think that this was the right place and the right time to speak his opinion. I do not dispute that the people of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama have been left to fend for themselves. I do not dispute that the news has been showing the plight of the people and making it look inflammatory for people of color. The Government has been slow to respond, to people of all color. The Government at all levels has not done their job. The facts are the facts. Now, we all have seen the misery of all of the victims of the hurricane. but for Kanye to say what he had to say is irresponsible. He only went on the benefit concert to promote his own selfish needs. If he really wants to make a difference, have him get on the front line. Then encourage him to run for office. The mark of a true American is to pitch in, get the job done and then deal with the why events unfolded the way that they did. Kanye took the easy way out.

It is unfortunate that Kanye is using his celebrity to create his own hurricane to create more problems. Now, it is time for him to fix what he broke.

Kanye is a stupid asshole. Quite trying to make yourself hard...you ain't.

with all the controversy over kanye's mc'ing skills(or lack of)and now his "george bush does not care about black people" speech, it can be said that he is not he most articulate person. Unfortunately because of this, his comments on the hurricane relief placed this most serious issues in an irrelevant black/white context. However, i think kanye was was trying to say that george w doesnt care about POOR people (most of whom are black, because of a governments creation of biased social conditions which favor the retention of power and wealth in the small predominately white upper class).
I agree kanye is brave for what he said, but maybe his ideas and thoughts are not that different or original...again another debatable issue with respect to his recycling of lyrics and sampling. Sorry but for someone who "speaks from his soul" it’s sometimes hard to separate the man from his music.

is not kanye guilty of using the same media he condemned to perpeuate the stereotye of African AAmericans always placing issues in terms of black vs. white? especually when matters of the heart and soul are often complex and grey

Kanye you betta watch your back now. I agree partly with what you said but I agree with the arguments here for your negative outburst. Anyway just incase you may read this. Your girl Michelle Malkin really tryin to blow you out on her weblog michellemalkin.com...it amazes me how people are so quick to make judgement on a people when they are not and never have been in a similar situation (and I mean only in regards to her comment on kanye and other questionable comment)... Malkin its only a matter of time before your Hurricane Katrina is coming to you.........Anyway

Jay Im surprised about your coverage on this hurricane... Your coverage of the hot97 tsunami song which was a total tragedy on the part of hot97 was much more filled with a sense of righting wrongs made than what Im seeing on your blog now. Strangely your not saying anything really at all. Or mabye Im just jumping to conclusions to soon....but you are now questionable in my eyes.......mabye you realized something

'Imminent Domain'....the government bout to get in your..ish.

unlike tiger woods who fucus his views on stealing, Kanye recognized that people are dying. Why are they using police to protect stores when people are still waitng to be rescued. Once again cooperate interest exceeds human basic needs. This is the new America i guess! America went to war for money, so poor white and black people does not offer any financail interest. thanks kanye

How incompetent is the mayor of New Orleans? He left all of the city school buses in their parking lot when he could have sent them thoughout the impoverished areas of the city to evacuate the poorer citizens. Instead he rails about the incompetence of the Fed response, yet he did "beg" citizens to evacuate. Bush made available relief funds even before the storm, yet Kanye puts blame on Bush when this catastrophe is so big on so many levels and so many officials had a hand in planning relief before and after. When will people stop crying discrimination? JUST GET BACK IN AND HELP!

How is it that we allow people to say something like that? I mean it's a double standard. I being white understand what the problem is, and I have the same sources for information as anyone else does. But somehow we can blame, 'The hatred of black people in America', for people not leaving, looting, shooting at people who are TRYING TO HELP, and tell people that it's because 'America hates blacks'. I don't understand how that is allowed and it makes me sick.

VERY BRAVE AND COURAGEOUS,WE NEED MORE PEOPLE LIKE KANYE WEST,THE TYPE OF PEOPLE WHO STAND UP FOR WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN,DESPITE THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

Y' know, people who dislike Kanye's comments either find any celebrity political speech inappropriate, or find anyone who speaks openly about race difference in America divisive. Thankfully, we still have a First Amendment.

Look, Kanye West, not the most articulate brother, spoke from the heart about an issue that was taxing everyone's belief in the goodness of American government. Kanye didn't say anything that the Congressional Black Caucus, the NAACP, and the Rev. Jesse Jackson hadn't been saying all day long.

Furthermore, there has been a difference in federal reaction between 9/11 victims in New York and Katrina victims in New Orleans. It's obvious. Whether or not you consider the difference classist or racist or whatever, please admit the difference existed. President Bush toured the affected Gulf Coast region yesterday and met with only one Black person - N.O. Mayor Ray Nagin. Ask yourself why.

Kanye West had the balls to speak his mind, on the week where his album sales could be affected. I respect that. So should we all.

What a shame...I have jammed many-a-time to him and "Gold Digger" is the bomb, but.....So um, Bush doesn't like black people huh? Funny, but take a look at his "cabinets." Last time I checked, the person responsible for my child's safety along with mine and all of yours, is black- and I feel DAMN safe. Condy is one of the most powerful people in the world thanks to Bush's recognition of her efforts. Let's not forget about Colin. Bush has done wonders for minorities in this country and I am appalled that instead of seeing what more he can do (based on his dissatisfaction with what Bush has done), Kanye chose to abuse an opportunity to unite people across the country in a relief effort by discreditting someone who has more balls than he does. I guess it is easier to point fingers and look away than it is to take ownership. Yeah, big man..Kanye got on a stage and usurped his infamy with a blurb. Funny, but I seem to have seen news footage of Bush in the sweltering heat, walking amongst the people of the Gulf states, wading in water and looking pretty affected. Meanwhile Kanye was in a club with a bottle of Kristal and appropriately enough, a gold digger. I love hypocrits. Oh and by the way Kanye, don't "white" people live in Lousiana too? Or do they not need help also? I am a proud, black woman and I think Bush has a very difficult job that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I don't think he doesn't care about black people, like I said "wonders for minorites." That's why I voted for him. Yeah I voted for him, twice, and if given the opportunity, I would do it again- but I'll never buy another Kanye CD. Thanks for bringing negativity to an effort that is supposed to bring hope.
Do me a favor, instead of buying his new release, donate the monies to Red Cross.

Double post, I know but I had to.
James: turn on CNN so you can watch how many black, hispanic and white people George Bush walked hand-in-hand with yesterday. I counted 7 black families alone that were taped being hugged by W. Holding a weeping woman as his forehead cringed, you can tell he was fighting back his own tears. Ignorance is not bliss. This goes out to Kanye, James and everyone else that makes comments that are not FACTUAL: stop talking shit if you're unhappy and GIVE instead. Give your time, money, prayers or blood. Do you know that one donation of blood saves three lives? We're all losing sight of reality and unless you've lived through a devastating hurricane, you have no idea how difficult it can be to help people when accessibility is hindered. Having REBUILT from scratch 13 years ago after Andrew, I can tell you that effort, drive, desire and want does not suffice when there's no way to get to you. I'm thankful, as I still live in Miami. And while I went three days without power, the news footage is proof that it may have been much worse for me. If mother nature can be color-blind, why can't we?

Thank you Kanye West. Now go back to your house on the hills, Escalades, and hos. Clearly you know how to run the government

Disappointed, I watched CNN all day yesterday; the only people of color I saw him touch were two sisters in Mississippi.

But that's not the point. Of course people are giving. Neither my comment or Kanye West's will stop people from giving money. You act like people who were going to give money to the Red Cross will stop themselves because Kanye West and I think George Bush doesn't care about Black people.

He doesn't.

I'm disappointed that the federal response to this tragedy is so shameful. I'm disappointed that American taxpayers are dying in the streets of New Orleans on George W. Bush's watch. I'm disappointed that American citizens were stuck in inhumane conditions on American soil. And I'm disappointed that they are predominantly poor and Black.

A color-blind response to this tragedy would have been George W. Bush treating every American at risk like the richest Americans - getting them out of harm's way.

We all give. But Kanye and I are right to be disappointed. I'm glad Kanye spoke up.

Kanye West looted New Orleans.

I'm a student at the University of Houston and in the Honor's college. My professor asked the class to read a chapter in the book America Compared... in which it spoked of "Colored People," regarding how America infiltrated the Indians and their land... but he didn't go there... couldn't--cause he was to damn scared to say that!--- and mind you that I'm probably one of fifteen in the Honors College--as this is a honors course.. and we have at least (300) other students non-Black. Now, while discussing this chapter we as African-American's were referred to by him and the students as "Colored People," and today we are Refugees. Come on now, if anybody can hear me... this book was written almost 30 or 40 years ago and today they are calling us Refugees... do you see. or are. you just. BLIND. I love Kanye for what he did... though you speak and write how many of you actually will go against the odds-the-grain to say how you truly feel... is it because of money...? Nope, I think the BROTHER just had to let if off his chest. Got something to say about my comments.. read my magazine that I produce where we are all about arts-politics at www.literafeelymagazine.net ... and I know on Tuesday once I return to class.. we will be still discussing the "Colored People!"

the folks that attack Kanye for being out of place need to wake up. How is there a right time or palce for what was said. That kind of talk is severly restricted by social norms and of course media controls. If what was said could actually stop someone from donating than those words are needed more than ever. Forums such as political talk shows are meant for entertainment and grouped in a fashion that makes them easily dissmissed as opinion or rhetoric. what was said is on the tip of everyones toungue and needed to be said in such a setting.
Right on Kanye!

Whoah--who let all the George Bush kool-aid drinkers into this party?? This site must-have jumped up high in searches for this story on Kanye--thus all the right wing wacko viewpoints. All that being said--more power to ya Kanye. You are one brave soul, brother. I just wish you weren't such a rare commodity.

LOL@Jane saying exactly what I was thinking.

And seriously, if what Kanye said is going to stop people from donating, they must not have cared that much in the first place.

...and if you can't see the race and class issues that are all up IN this tragedy, then yeah, you're a moron.

THE SIMPLE FACT IS THAT THE ONLY THING KANYE WEST ACCOMPLISHED WITH HIS COMMENT WAS NEGATIVITY AND THIS BLOG IS BLATANT PROOF. THE ISSUE HAS NOW GONE FROM "LET'S HELP THESE PEOPLE," TO A RACIAL/POLITICAL ISSUE. THE TRUTH IS THAT GEOGRAPHY AND NATURE SUNK THESE PEOPLE-NOT BUSH AND NOT KANYE. NEW ORLEANS, SPECIFICALLY, IS BELOW SEA LEVEL AND THE LEVY WAS OUTDATED BY SOME 50 YEARS-TWO THINGS WHICH AGAIN, ARE NEITHER W'S NOR KANYE'S FAULT. HURRICANE KATRINA MOVED MUCH TO SLOWLY IN THE WARM WATERS OF THE GULF AND GAINED MUCH MORE STRENGTH THAN ANYONE THOUGHT (HERE AGAIN, NEITHER BUSH NOR KANYE ARE AT FAULT). YET WHILE BUSH IS JUST DOING HIS JOB THE BEST WAY HE CAN GIVEN THE SUPREME ROAD BLOCKS IN HIS WAY (OR LACK OF ROADS THEREOF), KANYE IS DRESSED IN $1000 SHOES, STANDING ON A STAGE USING HIS FACE TO DRAW ATTENTION AWAY FROM THE REAL ISSUE BY DEFAMING A MAN WHO IS ACTING AND NOT JUST TRASH TALKING. GET REAL GUYS-YOU DON'T KNOW IF BUSH DOES OR DOES NOT CARE ABOUT AFRICAN-AMERICANS. THE ONLY THING WE CAN GO BY IS HIS PAST ACTIONS. THERE ARE MORE AFRICAN-AMERICANS, HISPANICS, ASIANS, MINORITIES AS A WHOLE IN HIGH LEVEL POLITICAL POSITIONS IN THIS ADMINISTRATION THAN ANY OF THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS. THEY OWE IT TO BUSH'S RECOGNITION OF THEIR EFFORTS AND NOT THE COLOR OF THEIR SKINS. I TAKE OFFENSE TO THE COMMENT NOT BECAUSE IT WAS AN ATTACK ON BUSH, BUT RATHER BECAUSE IT HAS DRAWN ATTENTION AWAY FROM THE REAL ISSUE...THE BLACK, WHITE, YELLOW, BROWN, GREEN, PURPLE (ETC) PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOTHING LEFT. INSTEAD OF INITIATING ANOTHER RACIAL DIVISION, KANYE COULD HAVE ACTED IN A MORE RESPONSIBLE WAY IF THOSE WERE REALLY HIS BELIEFS, BY DRAWING POSITIVE ATTENTION TO THE EFFORTS. I GUARANTEE YOU THAT THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO, WHILE ON HOLD AWAITING THEIR TURN TO DONATE WITH TEARS IN THEIR EYES, SUDDENLY HAD A MOOD SWITCH AND SAID "WHO IS THIS IGNORANT IDIOT?" YET, I AM GLAD HE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE HIS COMMENT AS IT ONLY SHOWS WHERE HIS INTERESTS ARE. IT'S EASY TO BLAME OUR GOVERNMENT FOR EVERYTHING AS THAT IS WHAT THE AMERICAN WAY SEEMS TO HAVE BECOME. YOU DON'T LIKE SOMETHING, YOU COMPLAIN. WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO CHANGING YOUR OWN LIFE? TOO MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE IT IS THEIR RIGHT TO BE HELPED. INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO CHANGE IT FOR YOU, GET OFF YOUR ASS AND DO SOMETHING. GOD HELPS THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELVES. BLESSED ARE THE MEEK-NOT THE COMPLAINERS.

Disappointed,

It's BEEN a "racial/political issue."

Where the FUCK have YOU been living?

apparently not in the same place you have brown as in MIAMI, the relief effort is about help, hope and humanity- not politics or race. People all bleed the same, no matter the color of their skin. We have forgotten that because it's easy to play the race card. I hate when my fellow "brothers" cop-out by pointing the finger at race. I am where I am because of my actions and not the color of my skin. I am the 5th of 7. We lived in a two bedroom apt with my mother and grandmother, well below poverty. The clothes passed to me as a kid always had stains and holes. Yet, I took advantage of the opportunities available to me so that I could change my future and make sure that MY children didn't live in poverty. We all have the same opportunities. So while it would have been easy to waste my potential and my life and chalk it up to race and poverty- I acted and WORKED my ass off to change my future.
so now, I'm even more disappointed as you have confirmed that people don't see it as a RELIEF effort-they see it as a political issue. I hope I never have to donate money to help you brown as I see it will be a waste of my hard earned money.

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first off I am proud of Kanye West for his statements. Im a military member thats from uptown new orleans. and I felt that Kanye Has every right to xpress his feelings if someone put me live Id xpress them 2. tha people hatin on Kanye need to be B**** slapped. because I know that none of U have been down there. my mother is missing and my father, along with most of his side of the family. I got a text from my brother tuesday morning and went AWOL to go down there and help find my family. you D*** right people are taking shoes and clothes, because they dont have a home to go to and change. they wed funky and dirty walkin round in that filthy a** water. hell I helped. and when we got somewhere dry guess what they changed clothes. it at least gave them tha feeling of being clean. I love red cross theyre down there strong. neva been a big texas fan(cause bush was the govenor and I hate him personally). but they get tha thumbs up.

That's what sucks about this posting format--you can't bounce the obvious wacko trolls like "disappointed," who are losing their minds cause a light is being shined on all the nasty mildew that has been hiding under a rug probably, since, oh the Civil Rights movement. The Bush admin. is all about shiney surfaces--thus token Condoleeza (who, heartless beeyatch that she is, was shopping for expensive shoes on 5th Ave. in NY on Wednesday), but anyone with a brain knows that one of their most successful election strategies is doing every underhanded thing possible to keep black people from voting. I swear to you that Carl Rove and Bush looked at that what Katrina did to New Orleans and their first thought was, "Hmmm, a bunch of poor black people. That's not OUR consitituency--fuck it, we'll get there when we get there." Yes people, they are THAT sociopathic.

its funny that when tha tsunami hit we were the first one in line to offer help. I just got back 2 day and say tha Kanye thing. you all just dont know how things are down there. its still people down there starving, stranded, U dont know how many people I ran into that were diabetic and have'nt had they're med in god knows how long. and I agree with Kanye yeah I saw white people there but the majority was black faces. and they're gettin angry quick. personally I think its more of a rich poor thing (unfortunately thats usually a minority thing also). hey if U wanna cheap and quick donation go 2 bungie.net and get a fight tha flood tee. profits go 2 help OUR PEOPLE.I miss U delores Broussard and poppa Broussard.

dont worry bout tha wacko trolls JaneKnowles. hopefully we can help to open theyre eyes to a new view. and mabe they can shine some light on things for us. someday hopefully we wont have those ignorant people, nor reasons for topic discussions as these

You are a bigger person than me, New Orleans. May you quickly find all of yours in good health. My heart goes out to you.

OK SO U PEOPLE HATING ON KAYNE WEST ARE SAYING THAT IF THIS WAS TEXAS OR SOME OTHER STATE, THE SAME TURNOUT LIKE THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPEN? HELL NO!! BUSH WOULDVE HAD THE WHOLE STATE CLEARED OUT BEFORE THIS TRAGEDY. HE AINT LETTING HIS OWN GO OUT BY NO HURRICANE..THIS WAS SIMPLY BUSH KNOWING WAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN...AND DOING NOTHING TO STOP IT FROM HAPPENING. REMEMBER 9-11? OUR PRESIDENT IS AN IDIOT...WAKE THE HELL UP PEOPLE. CONGRATS TO KAYNE WEST FOR HAVING BALLS..HELL ALWAYS BE A HERO IN MY BOOK..AND GOD BLESSED HIM TO SAY WHAT HE SAID.

BOYCOTT KANYE!!!!. SEND HIM TO NEW ORLEANS! If you think he's some kind of hero, you have your priorities wrong. Everyone wants equality! ACT with equality.

Posted by: DL at September 3, 2005 07:52 AM

DL Ure a dumb a** disillusioned muthaf***a. everyone wants equality. survey says......not true being from tha N.O. and bein staitioned in southeast GA, Ive ran into some of tha most racist people ever. I truly hope that everyone wants eqaulity, but tha fact is all of those that arent given equaility want everyone to have equality,and tha "MAJORITY" hopefully want everyone to have equality but tha fact is there are still a LOT of racist people around. like Kanye said racism still alive they just be concealin it.
someone slap DL

i dont even know if america cares about black people

dont even know if america cares about black people

Posted by: mark at September 3, 2005 06:04 PM
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mark please elaborate

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It is unfortunate that Kanye is using his celebrity to create his own hurricane to create more problems. Now, it is time for him to fix what he broke.

Posted by: aptlynamed235 at September 3, 2005 09:18 AM
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aptlynamed235 you cant brake something thats been broke since umm... lets say 1619

What's really funny here is. If you think about it. Why are people getting so mad that he said that. I doubt people said "Oh crap, some idiot said George Bush doesn't like black people. Oh well I'll punish those people down there by not helping."

Things don't work that way. Don't be stupid. If someone has their head in the sand. And you yank it out. They'll get mad cause they put it in there for a reason.

But now that Kanye has said that. I'll be Bush has his doofus a** face out there arm around black people. Or maybe he'll say something stupid like "I'm not racist I have plenty of black friends." Then point to Miss Rice.

I didn't think Mike Myers looked "frozen in horror" or "descended into complete panic." He looked perfectly calm to me. He probably was cheering Kanye on inside.

How SHOULD a President Respond to Impending Disaster

In September 1999, Hurricane Floyd -- a category 3 -- was bearing down the Carolinas and Virginia.

President Clinton was in Christchurch, New Zealand - meeting with President Jiang of China (you know, actually working). He made the proclamation that
only Presidents can make and declared the areas affected by Floyd "Federal Disaster Areas" so the National Guard and Military can begin to mobilize. Then he cut short his meetings overseas and flew home to coordinate the rescue efforts. This all one day BEFORE a Cat-3 hit the coast. That is how you do it.

How about this dope's own father during Hurricane Andrew? Once again, President Bush (41) -- August, 1992 -- was in the midst of a brutal campaign
for re-election. Yet, he cut off his campaigning the day before and went to Washington where he martialed the largest military operation on US soil in history. He sent in 7,000 National Guard and 22,000 regular military personnel, and all the gear to begin the clean up within hours after Andrew passed through Florida. 'Cause, you know, those people and their stuff was actually where it belonged, rather than being used for insurgent
target-practice halfway around the world in a vain effort to make Iraq safe for Iranian takeover.

In August of 1969 when Cat-5 Hurricane Camille hit roughly the same area as Katrina, President Nixon had already readied the National Guard and ordered
all Gulf rescue vessels and equipment from Tampa and Houston to follow the Hurricane in. There were over 1,000 regular military with two dozen helicopters to assist the Coast Guard and National Guard within hours after the skies cleared.

Bush 43 - August 2005 - Cat-5 Hurricane Katrina bears down on New Orleans and the Mississippi gulf. Both states are down nearly 8,000 National Guard troops because they are in Iraq -- with most of the rescue gear needed. Bush is on vacation. The day before Katrina makes landfall, Bush rides his bike for two hours. The day she hits, he goes to Johnnie McCain's birthday party; and lies to old people about the multi-billion-dollar pharmaceutical company welfare boondoggle. People are dying, the largest port of entry in the
United States (and fifth largest in the World) is under attack. Troops and supplies are desperately needed. The levees are cracking and the emergency
1-1/2 ton sandbags are ready, but there aren't enough helicopters or pilots to set them before the levees fail. The mayor of New Orleans begs for
Federal coordination, but there is none, and the sandbagging never gets done. So Bush -- naturally -- goes to San Diego to play guitar with country
singer and lie to the military about how Iraq is just exactly like WWII. The levees give way, filling New Orleans with water, sewage, oil and chemicals. Ten percent of all US exports, and 50% of all agricultural exports ordinarly go through this port. It is totally destroyed. Bush decides he'll end his vacation a couple of days early -- TOMORROW --BECAUSE HE HAS TICKETS TO A PADRES GAME! He goes back to the Fake Farm in Crawford, with every intention of doing something on WEDNESDAY about this disaster that happened starting last Sunday night.

Slap me if you want New Orleans Resident. You obviously are able to be blogging today. YOU want equality-start first by learning how to speak and write in English. All these people crying Race and don't want to be called Refugee. Refugees are people seeking refuge. Nowhere in that definition does it call them black, KYm! And Disappointed, you and I share the same views! All the crybabies need their diapers changed--and I repeat an earlier post "How incompetent is the mayor of New Orleans? He left all of the city school buses in their parking lot when he could have sent them thoughout the impoverished areas of the city to evacuate the poorer citizens,now they sit underwater. Instead he rails about the incompetence of the Fed response, yet he did "beg" citizens to evacuate. Bush made available relief funds even before the storm." SO COME ON, DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE ENTIRE AFFECTED AREA IS LARGER THAN HALF OF CALIFORNIA. EVERYONE HAS AN ANSWER. GO HELP PULL BODIES OUT OF THE ATTICS DOWN THERE INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING.

BY the way Jane, Condee can buy whatever shoes she wants, she earned them. Remember, she is Dr.Condoleeza Rice--what is your title ?What have you worked for and earned? Or are you one of those holding out your hand too? Poor me, poor me--stop draining the life out of America----Mark said above,"dont even know if america cares about black people"---Do you care about America?

DL = defending the indefensible. Dude, your man was eating cake--EATING CAKE and strumming on a guitar, yucking it up, on TUESDAY--while Americans were drowning! The same guy who flew back to D.C. to sign special legislation in an effort to save one half-dead white woman. Seriously, save your fire. You're not going to convince ANYONE here that Bush didn't complete fuck-up Katrina and since his failure was so obvious, your attempts to defend him are making you look like an ignorant ass.

I'm not the effing SECRETARY OF STATE out on a shopping spree while Americans are DYING in large quantities! What next? It's okay if Condi fries babies cause she's DOCTOR Rice and she earned it?? Seriously, this is my last post in here. You are way too stupid for me to bother having an exchange with.

first off DL yeah Im bloggin 2day cause I just f***in got back from new orleans. And I garuntee that my english skillz, both verbaly and written are much better than Urs shipmate. Guess that U have'nt learned not to judge a book by its cover. so sad, learn how to read and write in english, that speaks volumes about Ure intelligence level. Son I got tha right to speak and write how I please. bein in tha military that means I defend Ure right to have Ure disillusioned opinion Ironic hunh? and 2 your response to KYm, well again Ure not intelligent enough to see tha symbolism she is tryin to show U.(man Ure bout as deep as a puddle). and buddy Id appreciate if U dont put anything life helpin pull bodies out attics cause buddy Ive been there and Ive done that. half my fuckin family is missin cause where they used to live aint there anymore. so how bout untill Uve done and seen what Ive seen down there dont use that as a point in a blog anymore.

...Um yeah. WHat Kanye did, said I mean, was bold I admit and everybody feels that way. But come on, how fuckin smart did he look? He was completely off topic and had litte to do with the topic. I was confused and yes I hate Bush and yes I agree George Bush does not care about black people, but...He looked and sounded like fool. He made black people look dumber than what we are. He didnt sound confident he sounded iliterate and if he was gonna say it, he coulda of least organized it more. It was just random. He coulda went on Letterman, Leno, TRL, anywhere...But not on a fund raiser.

Credit to Kanye.
To "Disappointed," if you don't get what most people in this blog are saying then accept it, You just don't get it! You can't see it because you haven't experienced it. Note: the government is expected to do the best; that is why the people appoint them. If the best isn't happening, there is reason to be disappointed at the least. As leaders of the wealthiest and most prominent country of the world, their response to this has been embarassing. Whether it be because of racism, laziness, or pure ignorance, the administration had the ability to push for a quicker response. It didn't happen. If the White House is threatened, fighters are scrammed immediately. Now, we are not asking for fighter jets, just some freakin' schoolbuses and some food. Get it! No? Not Yet? Brother, Just be open-minded. BTW, how did you see Kanye's "$1,000 shoes?"

Some things I haven't seen much mention of...
Bush and the rest of the fed knew that this could happen and did not properly give what was needed. The Army Corps of Engineers asked the fed for $105 million a few years ago to shore up the levees and other projects related to the protection of New Orleans. Congress decided only to give $42 million, severely underscoring the needs.

After Katrina hit, Bush said on television "no one could have known that the levees would break..."

Someone above blamed FEMA but that shouldn't totally be the place to place the bullseye. Remember, with America's newfound paranoia, they created the Department of Homeland Security, in which they buried FEMA under. This just adds more bureaucratical red tape.

The question is why was there no staging area by the feds to give aid to Gulf victims prior to Katrina landing? They saw with enough advance that this was going to be a catastrophic event, especially given the special case of New Orleans. Especially given the fact that most of the oil and natural gas comes into the country through that area!!!

I ain't mad at Kanye at all, I knew he didnt do what he did for sales. We need people like him to stand up and put people on blast. Even if he doesn't completely hit the target, we need people to SHOOT! Hopefully, this will wake up hip-hop heads further and show them what rappers are capable of and to stop misusing their voice. I'm sick of hearing bitch, ho, money, and rim talk. We need to build, y'all. Holla.

Kanye West is the new Al Sharpton.

That isn't a good thing.

Hey, N.O. Resident, I think dl was just saying he doesn't think everything is to be blamed on Bush. Nagin didn't do much but beg folks to leave N.O. He didn't have a clue and he's in charge until Feds can step in. Stop blaming and politicizing. I'm proud you helped and I'm sorry for your worries or loss. I could only donate money.Everyone needs to calm, people can't help each other when blacks think whites hate them and whites can get past the walls they put up. Racism isn't as widespread as you think it is, not where I come from. If you just came back from N.O. I'm sure you saw the overwhelming situation. The scope is just huge.

By the way, isn't Kanye West the same guy that said the U.S. government deliberately spread AIDS in Africa to wipe out black people? And that the U.S. government deliberately brings cocaine to black neighborhoods?

from an earlier blog to Latino 808:
How incompetent is the mayor of New Orleans? He left all of the city school buses in their parking lot when he could have sent them thoughout the impoverished areas of the city to evacuate the poorer citizens. Instead he rails about the incompetence of the Fed response"--now those buses are underwater or stolen.

Brad, that is too funny! It alway be the wite man and the guvermen.

Just wanted to clearify a few points on my comments above, since it seemed to spark a few comments from others. I did donate to the Red Cross, that program really saddened me. Not just because of the images, but also because I have a very close friend who's home is most likely under water at this moment. My point is that the celebrities on that show had a job and it was to motivate folks to donate, not to get people to think about racial prejudices surfacing from this disaster. As I said before, I wholeheartedly agree with Kanye. I am from a latin background (minority) and I know if this was a neighboorhood that was predominately white and latin, I'm sure they would show latins looting. I don't like that minorities are synonymous with poverty and crime as the next person. But I do know that the fact is, poverty breeds crime. And until blacks, latins, and other minorities rise above levels of poverty, I don't really see the point in complaining about what the media portrays of us. Nobody is going to help us rise above poverty, we've seen that, we have to do it ourselves. I believe Kanyes act to be selfish because he did what he wanted to do, without any thought of the reaction he may get from many potential donaters. What if he caused certain people to turn the channel because of that. What if people called someone and said did you hear that. Focus was diverted from the subject at hand...which was to DONATE! I didn't lose that focus, but I'm sure there were many who did. Also, for the people that think he put himself on the line, that is just wrong. I've had close friends in Marketing and PR, one thing they always say is, "any publicity is good publicity". He did not put his fame on the line with those comments, just his integrity. The people who are against what he said, probably wouldn't buy his album anyway. So no loss in customers there. Just take a moment to think of his customers, do you think they will not buy his album because of what he said. And even the small group who maybe stop buying his album, do you realize how many more customers he'll get for that comment...he'll be in multiple articles, magazines, newspapers, etc. Free publicity.

dl, N.O. didn't have to be evacuated until the levees broke and the flooding began. who could have moved them? not enough time, maybe? I'm not exactly sure, and I will not pretend to know, but I suppose there wouldn't be enough time to outrun the water. There is a chain of command. His duty is to request (and if need be, demand) assistance from the Feds. He did just that. He can't do it all by himself. I'm sure the city/county employees don't have the means to rescue themselves. This job is for the outsiders like ourselves to help. I assume the Mayor doesn't have resources comparable to the Fed. These resources, which are paid by taxpayers like ourselves, are there for that reason; to assist the citizens of this country. Immediately! ASAP! Me entiendes?

Kanye was in no way wrong, idiotic, or unresponsible in saying what he said. It’s his opinon (which is also shared with a very good part ot the black community and has been for years). This is nothing new it’s been shown over and over again. Kanye just slapped the Bush administration in the face with it. If you are not a memver of the top eshelans of the federal government relax it’s not for you to address no one cares what you think. I’m sure Kanye will be pressured to apol8igize for his statement but I sincerely hope that he doesn’t. All I could do was smile when I saw this, my heart was filled with pride. To see a man who could have easily just read the lines from the teleprompter and go home, chose to put the thoughts of the people out there like that was amazing and inspirational.

Some may argue that this was not the time or the place, but if not now, WHEN!?!, if not at a NBC Telethon, WHERE!?! This was the perfect time and place if it was said any place else (school, NAACP or Congrational Black Causas meeting, place of worship) it would never have gotten the kind of attention this topic diserves. If it this was said at any other time\place many would have turned to the station saw all the African American faces and emidiately turned to another station. This has been stated for years at all of the above but like I said before you turned the channel. Because of the national stage it was said on people had to watch and take notice to the message.

To those who insist on harping on his ability to communicate clearly:

This was a man with something on his heart to say and as scared and nervous as he had to be he got the point across. This was a unwritten unrehearsed act, don’t it you want to see some idotic, unintelligent, inarticulate jiberrish take a look at some of the junk coming out of Bush’s mouth when he is put on the spot. You are judging this man based on one instance of public speaking I’ve seen him speak dozens of times and he is far from unintelligent. If one situation determines weather a person is an idiot then why would the American people insist on putting this Idotic President in the White House.

Nino. Right on bro! That's right--rise above it, accept the help given in such a dire situation, and finally show gratutude--that's how respect is earned. That's not a racial statement it's how people get along. EVERYONE needs help at some time-rich or poor, black or white. There are many grateful people, probably more than not--they just don't make as much noise. Too bad NewOrleans didn't have Rudy Giuliani for mayor.

idontlikeit
yeah man I know that the situation isnt totally Bush's fault. but tha way I see it (because Ive been in the military so long) is that he's Ultimately responsible, and he accepted that responsibility when he swore in. the controversy is why did the help take so long, I believe thats the main reason Kanye had his emotional outburst. Bush didnt handle the situation. and being in the military I know first hand how fast we can respond. and to the majority of the black people down there were sayin tha same thing that kanye said and I guarantee they dont have a clue that he said what he said. since I been back lookin at TV Bush in my opinion hasent proved anyone wrong. everyone take tha time and read the blog by but he was on vacation! she says it the best

For all my Kanye West supporters that don't already have his CD take a listen, it's ok if some of you haters listen to!

Bwana-Don't promote his BS--and by the way-many blacks were totally offended by his untimely speech-fundraising is about hope and inspiration and giving--not whining about something YOU think exists. People work hard for respect and Kanye set the clock back about 45 years. That's what I'm hearing.

to hiphopgetsheaveho
"That's right--rise above it, accept the help given in such a dire situation, and finally show gratutude--that's how respect is earned. "
First of all, it is the Feds' Duty to respond to this immediatly. You are confused about this "help." Kanye is refering to the Feds not the Red Cross. He clearly states that the Red Cross is providing help, and it is appreciated. Once again, the Feds are doing what they are doing because it is their duty, not because of sympathy. Secondly, Kanye was not trying to "earn respect," he is getting a point accross. That point is that not all the actions by the blacks in N.O. should be considered looting. It is survival mode! Yes some N.O. resident (be it white or black) may or may not be abusing the lawlessnes, but we are stereotyping the whole black community by classifying all their attempts to survive as looting.

hiphopgetsheaveho
Where did you get your stats? where did you "hear," this?

hiphopgetsheaveho
"..not whining about something YOU think exists."
Do YOU really thinks it doesn't? Do you really think just because you haven't experienced it, that it doesn't exist? Why are we questioning the existence?

c'mon. let's not use make-believe stats to debate. I doubt there was an "only blacks poll" to determine how many blacks were offended bye Kanye's comments.

Just WHO is doing the stereotyping? The whiners. Do you have "stats" that FEDS are acting out of duty not sympathy??

latino808 I agree with U there it is the feds duty to respond, just like we responded to the tsunami with out being asked. this happened on our land,and by that no request is even needed. and I was there and everyone is like f*** Bush but since Ive been back I havent seen that on tha news. Or how the people in tha dome are sufferin, they hint on it but they havent said anything bout all the dead bodies inside tha dome. its crazy in there.and on the looting issue, when I was there I saw mostly people takin, besides food, diapers clothing and shoes. yeah U had tha retards takin stuff they cant use but it was no where near like Ive seen it on tv
hey latino808....Entiendo

WHINING! THINK! You must be confused. You don’t have to worry about the clock being set back you and Ms. Rice are safe either way.

addy boy,kanye, you hit basically the truth. after all, they have made us non-citizens of this country, by proclaming us to be refugees in a country we are suppose to be a citizen of. it seems to me we are victims of an unfortunate occurrence. bottom line is that people should liven up their sleeping brain.

Yaw, I think a refugee is someone who seeks refuge, not the derogatory description people think. We're just used to hearing about it in foreign countries not hear.

I'm sorry, brother, but I am not whinning. I am having a good debate. AND, you missed the point. Let me make this simple. Is it their duty? Yes. And that is why they have to do it with the resources that their positions (positions as in jobs) offer. That in no way means that they don't sympathize. You get it? Here's an easier version: IT'S THEIR JOB! We are not talking about a non-profit org, we are talking about the Federal Gov. Please don't continue to debate this. Please tell me you understand.

My thing is if the people don't get the food, what are they going to do with it? They can't sell it, I'm sure they can't send it back to the vendors in that condition. The food in those stores would go to waist anyway. There is no reason to even worry about the people taking the food. Oh I guess the "American Way" would be for the stores throw the food in the dumpster.

hiphopgetsheaveho
go to:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=refugee

you will see what dictionary.com says "refugee," means, not what you think it means.

Bwana, I saw a store owner on the news a few days ago. She said she would have gladly given her merchandise away, but why did everyone just trash the shop(which had miraculously survived a lot of damage). I don't think there is anyone here that would complain about taking food, it was terrible about all the other items-tv's, guns, etc that horrified the nation. I would take food to feed my family also. I would never trash someone else's property just because there was no one there to stop me. Those were the images in the news.

hiphopgetsheaveho
the term refugee doesn't belong here today in this situation.
you have to read between the lines. And I don't mean that literally. ;)

hiphopgetsheaveho
let's not debate by using what your neighbor's mother's cousin's saw on TV the other day. Unless you have a good reference, save it.

"One who flees in search of refuge, as in times of war, political oppression, or religious persecution."
Refuge means safety, as in fleeing from anything that threatens, just because a dictionary doesn't mention hurricanes or broken levees-I DID read between the lines!

Hey, Latino808-you must live under a rock-turn on your TV. You can debate by yourself now.

p.s.
ref·uge ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rfyj)
n.
Protection or shelter, as from danger or hardship.
A place providing protection or shelter.
A source of help, relief, or comfort in times of trouble.

I see that this is a little complicated for you. The term has been defined as such because of the association to those circumstances. Thus making it the definition. If you WERE right, then a terrorist would be a refugee because he is fleeing from US threats. A fugitive would also be a refugee.

Did you see the second definition on that page? Here it is: refugee

n : an exile who flees for safety

C'mon. are you still going to continue about this?

And it's still not over. Here is a quote from a Louisiana senator from today:

"But perhaps the greatest disappointment stands at the breached 17th Street levee. Touring this critical site yesterday with the President, I saw what I believed to be a real and significant effort to get a handle on a major cause of this catastrophe. Flying over this critical spot again this morning, less than 24 hours later, it became apparent that yesterday we witnessed a hastily prepared stage set for a Presidential photo opportunity; and the desperately needed resources we saw were this morning reduced to a single, lonely piece of equipment. Mr. President, I'm imploring you once again to get a cabinet-level official stood up as soon as possible to get this entire operation moving forward regionwide with all the resources - military and otherwise - necessary to relieve the unmitigated suffering and economic damage that is unfolding."

So now, even six days after the hurricane has hit, the rescue effort plays second fiddle to Bush's main concern, which is looking good in front of the camera.

:) c'mon, don't get too defensive. I haven't had a chance to turn on my TV. AND, I probably will not for the next hour. What's on TV? Let me know your point. Did you get that definition from TV? Is that your point?

latino808-you wouldn't get the point if you sat on a needle.

THANK U FOR MAKING ME LAUGH SO DAMN HARD KAYNE WEST, YOU SHOULD BE A COMEDIAN!AFTER BEING LITERALLY STUCK TO THE TV NEWS COVERAGE FOR 3 DAYS I COME ACROSS YOUR STUPID ASS COMMENTS AND I LAUGHED SO DAMN HARD!I CRIED!THANK YOU AGAIN!

WHO CARES-You get it, thank God- a sane American on this board.

hiphop, you haven't explained anything. I asked you a question. Where did you get that definition? And, what did you see on TV? You made it sound like something or someone on TV was explaining the definition of "refugee." But you come back with nothing but some feeble remark.

Anyone seeing FoxNews about the rapes at the Superdome. Even in the midst of this disaster, there's no helping some people.

As a Maori-American citizen I must say Kanye west should not be allowed to post his ill-informed opinion as unalienated truth live on television because he will stoop the oysters of America's youth into believing this garbage, as they don't know better themselves and are also ill-informed.
I find his accusations of Bush's discern for blacks unfounded. If the president truely didn't care about black people, he wouldn't currently be planning ways to spend billions of dollars of white citizens tax money to help these people. Right now he's providing clothes, food water, and phone service to around some 2,000 homeless black people who populate New Orleans wich never had it in the first place. They are making out better than welfare and housing.
If Bush truely didn't care about these people, he wouldn't withdraw some 5000 troops from Iraq who could potentially be fighting the evils of islamic fundimentalism to help them. Sorry the rest of the world can't appease your every Whim, Kanye; some of us just don't have teleporters that will magically transport us to every black person in New Orleans and rescue them immediately. He has to keep in mind the water there isn't safe to have troops walk in, and is hardly prepared for massive transport movements in and out. Theres NO reason to endanger troops who work towards the good of the country for a group of people who shoot at medical helicopters and rape thier own dieing women on the sides of the highway.

Personally, as a non white minority, I think Bush is being much to kind to these people. I'm inclined to let them rot in thier own watery, fecal sespool.

I WAS answering you. You posted the defintion of refugee and I used your source: dictionary.com. for the defintion of refuge.

Nicolai, you had a point until your last harsh sentence, but some people ARE behaving terribly in such a dire situation. Raping, robbing, killing while so many are trying to save people. That's totally unacceptable as well.

LOTS OF HAPPY AND THANKFUL PEOPLE ON THE NEWS NOW. FIVE DAYS LATER, 2 MILLION PEOPLE DISPLACED, RIGHT NOW!! TIME WILL HEAL AND ITS JUST GETTING STARTED. JUST KEEP GIVING-NO TIME FOR ARGUING. MORE MIGHT, LESS FIGHT.

Niccolai Tereaie
I will not debate with your opinion, because it is just that; Your opinion. And I respect different opinions. However, it does confuse me when you say "billions of dollars of white citizens tax money." You are not implying that this tax money comes solely from whites, are you? BTW, this money doesn't belong to Bush, but to the US and it's citizens (that includes residents of N.O.). It sounds to me as though you believe it does. Bush is not being too kind. He is doing what he is appointed to do. If order needs to be restored, then it is his duty to get that done. If evacuation is needed, then he must get that done as well. It is not out of kindness, but out of duty. "Personally, as a non white minority, I think Bush is being much to kind to these people. I'm inclined to let them rot in thier own watery, fecal sespool."
Something is definitely cruel about you. A little cold aren't ya? Other than that, carry on with your opinion. I can go on and on about some issues that you are misinformed about, but I have learned from debating with hiphop that some people don't and will never get it!
Much Mahalos! Good nite! God Bless everyone! Hasta Luego!

Excuse me Kanye,

I do care. It's just that I was on vacation. Vacation or Hurricane Katrina, I'm sure the good people of New Orleans would agree that spending time on my Crawford with that Cindy lady is way better than at New Orleans.

-Your President.

latino808, you started off tonight making sense but lost it. How come everyone but you are misinformed(i.e". I can go on and on about some issues that you are misinformed "), nicolai's last few words were mean, but he was right in my opinion. And it seems the GOVT is coming thru and the short term problems are easing, we can only see what time brings.

What has been said and will continue to be said is not that Kanye is ignorant, and idiot or otherwise (regardless of circumstance, and by the way, Kanye's tunes aren't all that-has some good stuff but some of his sh*t is COPIED from others), just that he took attention away from the real issue. I read all the messages, including my previous ones, and realized that one important thing has not been said: Can we stop talking about this publicity stunt and go back to finding a way to resolve the issue and HELP these people? That's what you do when you're not content or satisfied with something- YOU TRY...YOU TRY WHATEVER...but you don't sit back and point the finger. Nobody has all the answers-not Bush and certainly not Kanye. He has alienated the issue and drawn attention to himself, and in Kanye's business, that's what it's all about. Can we stop shining the light on Kanye and move it back to the Gulf states where it belongs? It's his opinion, as I have mine. To quote a kickass line from some UNIQUELY CREATIVE artists: "Opinions are like assholes and everybody's got 'em."

“white citizens tax money” What are you talking about? When did they start separating white and black tax money now? How about your tax money? Don’t you pay taxes also. Providing these things for 2,000 people may sound good to you but when you look at the http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/03/katrina.impact/index.html" target="_blank">30,000 people that are still in N.O. and still homless it doesn’t seem like that much does it. The facts are he didn’t get there fast enough he is doing something unfortunately some people have died that didn’t have to because of his lackluster efforts thus far. You yourself are ill-informed assuming that 5,000 troops are going to be withdrawn from Iraq to help with the help the people of N.O.

“I'm inclined to let them rot in thier own watery, fecal sespool.” Don’t overstep your boundaries it’s not your decision to make.

to my Maori friend.....KIA ORA
U were giving a good arguement untill that last statement, that was as misplaced as Kanye's speach on the fundraiser. thats tha last thing Id xpect from a maori, knowing Ure ancestors history. but thats Ure opinion. anyway

KIA ORA

THE MISPLACED EVACUEES WILL SOON BE SUCKING DRY THE ENVIRONS OF HOUSTON AND OTHER CITIES. THEY WILL END UP WITH MORE THAN THEY LEFT BEHIND AND WILL USE KATRINA AS THEIR GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO GET MORE.

Disappointed - Check out the name of the blog! Many may not use this opportunity the same way but, debating FACTS requires research, which means (if everyone is like myself) we know more than most and are learning from each other while we agree\disagree. To quote my own great comedian "If you don't like what's on change the channel."

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THE MISPLACED EVACUEES WILL SOON BE SUCKING DRY THE ENVIRONS OF HOUSTON AND OTHER CITIES. THEY WILL END UP WITH MORE THAN THEY LEFT BEHIND AND WILL USE KATRINA AS THEIR GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO GET MORE.

Posted by: JUSTYOUWAIT
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so what is Ure soultion, or was that just the opinion of someone who needs jesus n your life dont worry brother Ill pray for U just U wait!

Where is the anger that people presumably on this board expressed about the Tsunami/ HOT97 situation? I included trashed and tried to get d jays fired. But now we see how different levels of the government miserably failed as the old and babies were literally dying in the streets and we are debating Kanye's comments? He said something that many Americans, poor and or black feel. Bush himself may indeed care about black people, but the government has a long standing history of treating the poor and or blacks with a lack of dignity and respect. Please get the proper information on why the response was so poor and why the levy system was not improved. All must be taken into account. And in terms of race, if the media outlets FOX, NBC, etc are raising the issue, then there must be something to it.

And if Kanye’s comments are a reason for not donating money, then you are as clueless and deeply heartless.

If nothing else people are thinking about the state of affairs in thes country. Kanye West is responsible for saying the things that we are all afraid to. The truth of the matter is the George W. Bush messed up. He dropped the ball. For all of you that want to try to blame Fema or the mayor, or the governor or whoever; I say to you play dumb if you want to but, who is the president? Who has the final say-so. He had the power to fix any and everything that went wrong in this crisis. But, he didn't. He sat in his comfy chair trying to line up others to blame for what he knew was coming. THe F-ed up part about it all is so many people sit around sucking up the hand-fed propaganda they feed you. So I say Kanye you are a revolutionary you spoke the truth that others lack the nerve to say. I was already a fan, but now I have grown an all new level of respect for you. "Get down boy, go head get down".

The issue here that everyone is missing is that this was a preventable disaster. There were lots of suggestions from some very prominent political figures before the storm hit to shore up the levies in New Orleans, and everyone ignored them. This is kind of an integral part of the bias that West is talking about that no one's mentioned yet. He would contend that none of the politicians did anything for them because the people who would be hardest hit and most benefited from these precautions would be the poor, who don't have all that much mobilization power or political power, so they got screwed far before all this happened.

Also, I'd like everyone to note that today NBC put on this thing that said that race questions were being brought up in New Orleans and then proceeded to show every single tape of a black child they ever collected in New Orleans. I don't think we should really let them pull that card and forget about the same bias that they keep showing us.

For instance, once that segment was over and they went to see devestation outside the city, they went to an area that was entirely white and then talked to them for quite a while and spoke about their plight.

Just finishing my sentence that I ended too early:

thus totally contradicting everything they had just said.

If you are trying to save yourself you go for food and water...if you are a worthless thug you go for guns and steal things from others..and rape and pillage and all those other nice things. Since the majority, if not all, of these things were perpetrated by blacks, how can you not focus on bad blacks? People are people regardless of color...but almost everyone trapped in New Orleans were black...so how can there be a race issue when only one race was involved? Your black mayor showed his ass didn't he? And if you had a plane or a boat or a clue as to how to get in there to save anybody, what would you have done differently than what has been done? If Bill Clinton were president would you be bitching at him? Kanye is a piece of shit who makes no difference whatsoever....your military, the ones who preserve your rights to be stupid, are the ones who are making the difference (and alot of them are white!). Say a prayer for them...for they are your best friends and your only hope to continue to be stupid and suck off of the government thumb.

In this morning's paper I read an AP story about Kanye's Comments, and I nodded in agreement. What shocked me was that the story's slant seemed to suggest that KW's comment's should have been censored-- He just 'slipped it by them.'

What the fuck?? Isn't this America?? Kanye didn't curse, didn't act a fool or threaten anyone-- All he did was speak his mind (And the truth happened to come out) but, it is supposed to be understood by white bread america that one can't criticize the president-- ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE BLACK!!!

Don't believe the hype. If Bush cared even a little, those people would have been taken care of from day one.

Much respect to Kanye. More people should follow his example. Fuck the media.

SCOTT WICHMANN FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008-HE'LL HANDLE THE SITUATION FROM DAY ONE-YEA SCOTT, YOU COULD EVACUATE UPWARDS OF 2MILLION PEOPLE FROM 2-3LEVELS OF STANDING WATER WITH DOWNED LIVE POWER LINES AND GANGS SHOOTING AT YOUR HELICOPTERS. Clean the steam from your hot air off those goggles and look at the big picture.

its the stereotypical people like U that make what Kanye did right. you might as well gone head and rewrite that the way I know U want to.
Ill pray for U two steve

Kanye was right. The Congressional Black Caucus is right.

George Bush does not care about Black people.

Or poor people. Or anyone who didn't vote for him. That's another reason why we all need to give more. We need to do for the evacuees what the federal government didn't want to do, what they were dragged into doing badly.

We need to help them. Kanye West didn't impede that, so his comments, and those of the Congressional Black Caucus, are totally justified. And correct.

And I will pray for you too, "new orleans resident". My real vent is that is that everyone wants to blame, blame, blame. There is no such thing as "an act of nature" anymore. We think that everything was caused by something, and that everything can or should be fixed by someone. If you take responsibilty for your life and your actions then the time you have to worry about why or who is actually pretty short (you keep moving forward). Free speeech aside, Kanye's remarks were inappropriate within the scope of the evednt he was participating in...in my opinion.

Wow...AWESOME JOB KANYE.

That seriously took so much guts to do that.

Steve:

You are probably the most ignorant person I have seen make a statement all night. “how can there be a race issue when only one race was involved?” Think on that one and get back to me. As far as the bulk of the rest of your nonsense, It’s based on “what if’s”, no one can predict what would have happened “if”.

your military, the ones who preserve your rights to be stupid” c’mon man don’t even try it.

God bless Kanye West for speaking the truth. America is the new South Africa - not just for black people, but for anyone of any race who lacks power or prestige or money.

...and James, before you go after the president, start with your city council, mayor, state representatives, state senators, US Representatives, and US Senators, all of whom would have more information and experience with New Orleans than the President. The logistics of this whole nightmare are not based on color...nature did what it was going to do regardless of who was there and who got out. The local response to the disaster, before it occurred and immediately after, was pitiful, and the local leaders are predominantly black. So what does that really say?

...and Bwana (tribal name I presume...) no one debates you (I have read the prior posts) because you make no sense whatsoever. And there is absolutely no way, based on what I have read on here, that I am the most ignorant person (top ten maybe, but not number 1).

steve Ure not that bright. last year even the department of homeland security warned of such an event and ran a drill or something and informed the president that new orleans could end up under water. because the levys are desighed for cat 3 hurricanes and sooner or later we'd be hit by a cat 4 or 5 and yet he did nothing. majority of the citys emergency equipment were destroyed in the hurricane. there was no communications in the city. and the funds to reinforce the levys were cut in more than half by guess who bush. so before U go and make statements with no substance like that go read something buddy

and yeah Im still gonna pray 4 U

but I do agree with one thing U said. I am in the military and I do defend the rights of the people like U that can easily put all black people in the same category. but thats why I pray for U steve

NOR...And you probably missed the engineering assessment that said that the levies could not possibly be built to withstand the worst case scenario. The money was cut...true, but a corp of engineeer expert stated on the national news (CNN and FOX) that what was proposed in the budget would not have prevented what has actually happened. The levies that gave way were not the levies that were going to be worked on. So there.....

...and I don't put all black people in the same category. Like whites and all other races, there are good and bad. I do have have parameters for what I consider good and bad, so there is subjectivity involved. I try very hard to keep an open mind and I try very hard to take advantage of the opportunities that available to me. I try very hard to accept responsibility for things that I have control over and understand the things that I don't have control over. And when an event occurs in my life, the first place I look is at myself...to determine if there was anything I could have, or should have, done differently. Then I move on from there....

Let me begin by saying that I am a 25 year old, six figure salaried tax-paying >>Niccolai Tereaie

I can't believe that so many people are living in denial: Racial Inequality?It exists! Simple/Close-minded people? They exist!

Granted this is not solely about race, however it plays a huge role in the delayed response in getting aid to that area (I understand Mother Nature didn't make it that much easier)

Although, we could have never predicted the levee breaks= flooding, the government should have stepped up at the first sign of dispair and devastation. WHAT TOOK SO LONG?????

Sure Kanye (sometimes arrogant, yet humble and nervous as he spoke from his heart Friday), could have read the teleprompter, but he chose not to... GET OVER IT... he is one of the few black rappers with more to say than "Drop it like it's Hot" As a fan of Kanye, I agree and disagree with him on his decision to do what he did, however I UNDERSTAND why he did it and I can applaud him for it.

God bless all of you and those poor EVACUEES (I prefer not to use refugee... we are in AMERICA)!

Steve-o that wasnt the worst case scenario when the hurricane hit land it was a cat 4 from 5. yeah I agree with the worst case scenario but know one has seen the worst case. but everyone in N.O. knows the city is below sea level and the only thing protecting us was the levys. and like U said he cut funding. so what chance did the city stand with half ass levys. and guess who else knew all this??

Steve:
No, it’s not tribal, incorrect as most of your assumptions. I'd say it's a 3 way tie.

I'm not sure why your age and salary are relevant, but anyway...What delayed response are we talking about? I live in a coastal community on the Atlantic Ocean and I work for local government (solid 5 figure income). Each year we go through an emergency planning drill. If a hurricane hits my area, I have been informed that the first helicopter that makes to our emergency management building will depart with me on it to inspect the area and make an initial damage assessment. Lowly me...not the frigging president of the USA! Our local EMA people will be the first responders...and that is what we plan and practice for...not the president of the USA. It seems to me that the city of New Orleans failed it's citizens before and after the storm (they are below sea level!!!) and now the president is somehow to blame? Get real...!!

Let's see...where I am living is in eminent danger of flooding each and every year if a hurricane decides to come my way. Unlike any other place in the whole country, my city is actually below sea level. I know this is not safe...one of the man-made levies could fail at any time and my city could fill up with water. Or worse, a storm could come and there could be multiple failures in the man-made levies and the city could really fill up with water. Oh not to worry...if something ever happens I'll just blame on the government for not saving me and all my stuff....

I am deeply saddened by Katrina, b/c I have strong ties to NOLA (family & friends, now homeless/unemployed).

I am a black tax-payer! Why is my Salary important? It is apparent that according to some, my TAXES aren't paying for the relief efforts---Posted by: Niccolai Tereaie at September 3, 2005 09:54 PM
I find his accusations of Bush's discern for blacks unfounded. If the president truely didn't care about black people, he wouldn't currently be planning ways to spend billions of dollars of white citizens tax money to help these people. Right now he's providing clothes, food water, and phone service to around some 2,000 homeless black people who populate New Orleans wich never had it in the first place. They are making out better than welfare and housing.--

Delayed Response? Hurricane = Monday...Federal Assistance = Friday.... Delay= 4days

Furthermore, I never blamed the President in my comment...SIMPLY.. Government, whether it be local or federal....What took so LONG?

steve Im not sayin that Bush Is the single point failure, Im listening to what U have to say. But im in the military and the way things work is commanding officer, or in this case the commander n chief is ultametly responsible, good or bad. thats the responsibility he swore in for. Its the reason he gives the state of the union speach. sure the mayor, gov, etc could have done more, but he could have done alot more. hell with one order I could find myself overseas. thats his decision to make. tha guy was living it up on vacation, should he get a vacation? hell yeah. but he knew the impending danger and he did nothing, and if none of the local officials arent taking the proper actions then he should step in its fully within his bounds.

NOR.. well put... some will never Get it!
thanks for serving our coutry :)

God Is Great...that is a very good post. It does not matter that you are a "black" taxpayer... it does matter that you are a caring person and a concerned citizen, and that you are genuinely bothered with the response to the events that have occurred. Unfortunately, Kanye West politicized it...and I disagree with him. Peace to you....

NOR...I apologize for not saying this sooner...but thank you, sincerely, for serving our country. I have experienced my father, a brother, brother-in-law, several cousins, and a son (Afghanistan 2004) serve and retain a deep respect for the military. I respect your opinion and appreciate your service.

Steve-o well at least we can agree on one thing there.(toward Ure post 4 GIG) I do disagree with where he voiced his opinions, being It was like a fundraiser., but like I said thats how everyone in the N.O. is feeling. the media has been hinting on it just a lil bit. but he went on and said it. so thinkin what live national TV station besides BET could he have said George Bush does not like black people.

I appreciate it steve, and GIG, and if U dont know I do respect your opinion. Question what part of tha gulf coast R U from??

I am on the Atlantic coast in Georgia, although I have lived in the panhandle of Florida, as well as Fort Myers and Sarasota. Dodged alot of storms over the years.....

Im stationed on the GA coast

Say no more...it is bedtime anyway. God's speed to you and stay safe!

I want to thank Kayne for lightening the mood in a dark time as we all know laughter is the best...you mean he was serious?!? Because that was some of the funniest TV I have seen in a long time!

As a Bush supporter I would also like to thank Kayne for exemplifying just how incoherent and idiotic most of his detractors are.

It may be old news to a lot of people but I thought it was a good time to bring it up again. What happened in New Orleans was a truly serious tragedy. I pray for the citizens and hope for a speedy recovery. I was curious though... If Miss Jones of Hot 97 is truly not a racist, will they make a "Hurricane song" as well? I wrote this to the Hot 97 morning crew:

Dear Miss Jones,

We're anxiously awaiting a "Hurricane Song." Prove to us you're not racist and you do not target certain ethnic groups. Will you make fun of this tragedy as you did the tsunami in Asia? Probably not considering the tsunami only affected "gooks" and "chinks." Did this one hit closer to home? Not very funny, is it?

I still think she got away with a blatant act of racism. I hope there are people that support me on this.

Also, I want to make it very, very clear that I'm not trying to take away from what happened on the Gulf Coast.

there are mix feelings about Kanye West non-scripted appearence on television, but for me, i thought it about time someone made the issue more controversial. the new york times already made light of the deal.

(read this http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/02/national/nationalspecial/02discrim.html?hp&ex=1125720000&en=9ce372bd33f25d06&ei=5094&partner=homepage)

i do agree that the blame cannot be solely on GW Bush, rather the blame goes to the federal government as a whole. what i forgot to mentioned was that Cuba was hit by a hurricane about two months ago. they were able to have an evacuation plan that was able to get 1.7 million people on short notice. its called Civil Defense not civil reaction. maybe someone in washington should look up the definition of preemptive.

re:just curious

i was discussing the same topic with one of my friends. more about how some black folks are able to make racist comments about "chinks" and "gooks" and easily get away with it. however, if an asian person, like myself, was to make anything remotely racist about black people, we would be running for our lives.

this hold pervalently true when jin the mc lost to serius jones last week. jones came flying with corny asian stereotypes, but just like all asians jin had to shallow it down. but whatever, you can read more about that matter at www.allhiphop.com

typo: swallow* it down.

since im on this. i should paste up an email i got earlier this week.

Note: Ned Sublette is the co-founder and president of Qbadisc and former host of Afro-pop worldwide and for a long time was senior producer for Afro-pop Worldwide.

how cuba does it

Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 19:58:12 -0600

This was sent to me by Ned Sublette this evening (Thursday, September 1).

i just spoke to nelson valdes, a walking encyclopedia of knowledge about

cuba, and asked him how civil defense is conducted in cuba. he ticked it

off while i listened with my left hand and typed with my right. here are

the notes i took:

* * *

less than 2 months ago, cuba was able to move 1.7 people on short notice.

the whole civil defense is embedded in the community to begin with. people

know ahead of time where they are to go.

they come to your door and knock, and tell you, evacuation is coming, then

they come and tell you, now.

if no electricity, they have runners who communicate from a headquarters to

central locations what is to be done.

the country's leaders go on TV and take charge. but not only the leaders

are speaking. the TV weatherpeople are knowledgeable. and the population

is well educated about hurricanes.

they not only evacuate. it's arranged beforehand where they will go, who

has family where. not only pickup is organized, delivery of people is

organized.

merely sticking them in a stadium is unthinkable. shelters all have medical

personnel, from the neighborhood. they have family doctors in cuba (!), who

evacuate together with the neighborhood, and already know who, for example,

needs insulin.

if they evacuate to a countryside high school -- a last resort -- they have

dormitories there.

they also have veterinarians and they evacuate animals. they begin

evacuating immediately, and also evacuate TV sets and refrigerators, so that

people aren't relucatant to leave because people might steal their stuff.

it's not throwing money at the problem. it's not financial capital, it's

social capital.

the u.s. in this sense has zero social capital.

dealing with hurricanes in cuba, as compared with how it's done in the u.s.,

is similar to the differences in how they deal with medicine. it's not

reactive; it's proactive. they act as early as possible. the u.s. doesn't
have civil defense, it has civil *reaction.*

Well lets see here, being from the south, and a white american, i see these pictures on TV with all these Blacks with like 9 jerseys on one arm, 10 hats and 8 pairs of nikes?

so all you Bush haters saying its his fault that the media is displaying blacks as being looters, what will you say to that?

also will someone find me 1 picture of a white american actually looting? and not taking bottle water or things like that, how about these GANGS that are shooting at the rescue helicopters

you black people put it on yourselves to have someone like Al Sharpton lead you and display even more racial discrimination then Bull Connors in Alabama, i think the white community as a whole see that 95% of the people that were in the superdome were black, even with the "BEGGING OF EVACUATION" from the NO mayor, then when the people get out the superdome, they go around stealing stuff, nothing like seeing national television with a walmart 100% full of African Americans, then 50 of them running out of the walmart with tv's on shoulders,

"GO KANYE?" go kanye, lol yeah right wtf has he done, i havent seen any african american workers for FEMA running around, i see them taking advantage of all the free TV's they can steal.

I would love to tell Kenye myself thank you !!! I am a white woman who thought the same way about how everything has been handled. I live in Port St Lucie which was the town effected by the two hurricanes within three weeks last year. If I remember correctly they were both Cat 4 hurricanes. Let me inform you that the VERY NEXT DAY WE HAD FEMA, NATIONAL GUARD, AND CLEAN UP BEFORE THESE PEOPLE EVEN HAD FOOD AND WATER. ITS ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY TRUE!!!!!! If this happened to white people help would of been there immediatly. And since Kenye said what he said all of a sudden these same abandon people are being placed on cruise ships. All George Bush came there for was photo op's. He may fool some of the mindless but not anyone with half a brain!!!!!

I want to add some of the people did loot unnecessarily. Some people created violence when help wasnt coming causing chaos. That is horrible and just added to the horror. However those people will get what they deserve. You always reap what you sew but that doesnt validate the CLEAR EVIDENCE PRESIDENT GEORGE W BUSH DOESNT CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think Kayne said nothing but the truth. If someone decided not to donate money because of what Kayne said, they are living in a state of denial. That reflects on the type of person they are, not the type of person Kayne shows himself to be. From what I saw, it did not seem like some of the other celebrities who want to use their air time to promote their own social interests. He looked like his conscious would not allow him not to speak the truth. He was nervous but sincere.

What Kanye West said represents alot of minorities opinions on this current situation. People who think otherwise must understand the obstacles minorities face in the USA. It just leaves me to believe that when any black man says something like this on television based on his emotions and years and years of african american blood spilled all over this country not only in defending it but also in victims of slavery he is criticized so openly. I am only stating an opionion because we as humans how do we plan to solve the worlds problems such as this with are limited knowledge. We humans are so ignorant we cannot deny it we are a plague on mother earth. We go to war and are deceive into beliveing that we are saving lives even as we destroy them. If your judging me by what i am saying don't because only god can judge me you are only flesh and meat not the all knowing god.

I am white, and personally I was offended. Although I agree that Bush's lack of responce to the tradgety was a disgrace, I would be cautious to say it is a racial issue. I think that Kayne may be the racist, making race an issue in the first place, regarding bush. However, he is absoutely right about the media portraying black people as theifs, and white people looking for food. When I read those articles I was offended by that as well. I hate bush and he is a lousy president, but i do not see any indication that he is racist, and it saddens me that anyone would play that card, when the world is working so hard to end it.

lets all please,just for once,stop taking situations and making it a black/white issue.its not a good excuse anymore . when will ppl learn that.it seems there r just ppl who want attention in this country and instead of caring about yourselves,give the attention to the ppl who really need it,the ppl who r suffering from this.ppl who by the way kanye is of all races,sice u have been living it up instead of really realizing that.oh yeah,and how many of your ppl r u taking in to your mansion?kanye has lost a huge fan in me for being ignorant,but i guess he would think its because he is black!?!

Kanye's a fucking idiot...

Why is the Mayor of New Orleans being blamed for putting 30,000+ people into a damn building that almost collapsed upon itself? Because he's black. Forget race, forget all that...the "slow" response isn't due to race...

However, it didn't help that when the gov't tried to send over supplies and relief, the damn gangs over there shot at them so they could loot longer...

Yeah it's racist that the soldiers didn't want to get shot at...

"I'm hungry, my children are cold & hungry...so I took this big screen TV" - Stranded resident of New Orleans on ABC 7 News

EDIT *Why is the Mayor of New Orleans NOT being blamed for putting 30,000+ people into a damn building that almost collapsed upon itself?*

has kanye west taken of his louis vuitton backpack and rolled up his gucci sleeves to help new orleans??? didn't think so... just another person who talks a lot of shit but doesn't ACT.

Hes just another stupid nigger like the rest of em down there shooting at helicopters and stealing big screen tv's

I think all of you that think Kanye is selfish need to sit and think for a minute. Cuz after all, Kanye IS right. George Bush does NOT care about black people. Geore doesnt care about anyone except white christians from the US. Look what hes doing in Iraq! He claims hes just tirying to help them form a govenment, but what if OUR government doesnt follow their religion. I think they should be able to form their own government without us. Oh and in Africa, they are having problems like these and theres aids and all these problems. But how many troops are there? I think Bush is an idiot. And i completely agree with him. ANd for all of you that are saying why doesnt he go help, screw you. If you were a celbrity id like to see your ass down there helping thwm in New Orleans. All he can do is donate, which he is doing. So all of you Bush kissers can kiss my ass. Way to go Kanye.

**I completely agree with Kanye.Sorry

Go J-man! Just read your post and I agree. I am house bound and watching full coverage for 6 days now on all networks. You are absolutely right. There was no delay in help, the help sent day one had no where to go, day 2 help came and got shot at, day 3 people were being moved and forces were there to start with medical treatment, day 4 more guards more order, day 5 Superdome evacuated and things starting to hum, Saturday-day 6 more rescuing of folks from their homes, Sunday the same and more family reunions. I said yesterday-the mayor of New Orleans kicking and screamin' this week, when all along he had access to every school bus in town to get people evacuated. No he chose to beg people to leave while all of those buses are now submerged. Typical. And Kanye starts the race bullshit while fundraising. I wouldn't fart in his direction if it was the last breath he needed.

blame white people, they invented hurricanes. george bush is satan. kanye west is a "revolutionist" gimme a f-ing break. it's okay to steal stereos, there's so much water. i can get out of this situation i refer to as "hellish" but i prefer to stay and bitch about the government. let's lose focus of what needs to be done so that we can all get together and "chat". i'm white...i'm black...i'm latino...i'm gonna make a point to criticize the government about racial issues but first let me state my race...not that it matters. EVERYONE GROW UP.

The poor were there before the hurricane hit. Which complainers were down there trying to help them make a difference in their lives? Stop waiting for the government to be the savior of all that ails society because it isn't going to happen! If you are black and your have the resources start a new paradigm--a new way of thinking--you make the difference don't depend on someone else to make it. Why did Oprah take her money and go to Africa? She said it was because Americans truly do have the opportunity to do better for themselves. The issue of race will never go away. There will always be white people thinking they are superior to black people. Ask any famous black person how easy their lives have been--they still forged ahead.

I find it funny/interesting that Fidel and Hugo Chavez have offered help. Sorry, not a Kanye post. Just more food for thought. Buen provecho!

i live in houston so now i have 100,000 angry black people to deal with everyday. thanks for your uplifting statements kanye. by the way, how much did your manager say you are able to donate. haven't heard that figure yet. hope it's a big one. or did your mouth write a check your (extremely wealthy) ass could'nt cash. help yourself to another low fat mocha latte while your "brothers" suck up sewage water. i'm wagering he's sittin on his ass in his mansion relishing in the fact that his lame ass comments caused such a stir. sadly that should make for an increase in his record sales. if he's so righteous why doesn't he use his personal jet to swoop in and save "his people" himself. better yet donate all t