September 18, 2009

Nancy Pelosi Warns of Violence

Nancy Pelosi yesterday gave a sobering statement reflecting on how the hateful and escalating animosity towards the President possibly warns of violence in the future.

Pelosi said that this current environment, and the loud hateful speech being uttered and shown on signs in this health care debate, reminds her of the atmosphere that led up to the deaths of George Moscone and Harvey Milk in Californiain the late 1970s.

"I have concerns about some of the language that is being used because I saw this ... I saw this myself, in the late '70s in San Francisco... This kind of rhetoric was very frightening, and it created a climate in which violence took place."

There's been much controversy about speculation that prejudice and hatred lies beneath the extreme side of the current protests against the Obama administration. Whatever the truth, lets hope that reason prevails and we can keep moving forward.

Nancy Pelosi Warns of Violence
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An emotional Nancy Pelosi fought back tears and warned Thursday that the nation's angry political climate could inspire deadly violence...

Nancy Pelosi Warns of Violence

Posted at September 18, 2009 3:39 AM

These so called rushties,Hannities and their racist ring wing friends are playing with fire. There are still a lot of young angry black men out there with big guns. Will these right wingers be able to put out the fire or are they and their friends going to run for cover? It is going to get nasty. Ever fought in Vietnam?

Posted by: Tony at September 18, 2009 6:28 AM

Sorry to bust your bubble Tony but ONCE again it aint got NOTHING to do with race. Obama is a socialist. PERIOD I am so tired of you pansy asses Every time we say anything about Obama or his administration you whiners pull out your race cards. Grow up

Posted by: Aaron at September 18, 2009 6:51 AM

Freedom of speech . Do not like it do not listen. Or is that changing too?

Posted by: mps at September 18, 2009 6:58 AM

freedom of speech. do not like do not listen

Posted by: mps at September 18, 2009 7:00 AM

Why is it that so many of you whites are blind to racism? Is it a case of selective vision? No, not everyone who critisizes the President is a racist. Some have legitimate differences. However, there are large numbers of "tea party" participants who are racist. Their racist sentiments are revealed by their signs telling Presiden Obama to go back to Kenya, caricatures of him as a witch doctor, etc. Whats so stupid is that many of them would benefit from his proposed reforms. Someone in an earliar post suggested that angry black men with big guns pose a threat. Yes, that is true, but the biggest threat to this country are hoards of angry, ignorant ass white people marching around holding"tea parties" and standing in the way of progressive, enlightened, humanity-based reforms that will truly benefit all of society.

Posted by: kpaul at September 18, 2009 7:40 AM

I totally agree with Aaron but Tony yeah this right winger did and is ready .....quit whining grow up and do something about your life instead of waiting for everything to be handed to you because of your poor poor history .....sheesh ...I know blacks that did something with thier lives and became somebody Tony are destined to be bitter and die very unhappy ..... I would say I pity those like you but I can't and won't ....Join Acorn they need more like you

Posted by: LK at September 18, 2009 7:53 AM

Comrade kpaul ...... your fellow comrades are trying to take russia again I'll pay the fair

Posted by: LK at September 18, 2009 7:55 AM

Pelosi,for once,is correct. People are getting angrier & angrier, mainly because they see their freedoms under Obama diminishing. The man is oblivious to the countries wishes. THIS AIN'T EUROPE! This is America,and we don't want that kind of socialist garbage here. The Rushes, the Hannitys & The Becks are the only hope for what was once a proud nation. We don't want your big government. Keep your hands off my healthcare & my 2nd ammendment rights. Hopefully, the American people have learned from their stupid mistake & won't stand for it much longer.

Posted by: richard at September 18, 2009 7:56 AM

Didnt seem to bother Dems when all the BUSH hae speech was out.....seems they can dish it ....but cant take it.....

Someone please remind Mrs. Pelosi about Freedom of Speech.....and if Americans dont want this healthcare package being shoved down our throats.....then Dems will feel it in 11/2010 elections......

All Dems have done is bankrupt us all and have no plan in sight for any issue.....missle defense, healthcare, economic recovery, swine plan at all.....scary

Posted by: Mark at September 18, 2009 8:14 AM

The reason why racism continues to rear its ugly head is because from the very beginning, it was never dealt with. In this day and time, we should know better. Let's learn from our forefathers and stop all of this bickering and treat each other as "we" would want to be. Where is our upbringing. We say, how are we going to explain history to our children, this mess is part of history. Obama is trying to help the helpless and when his agenda is put into place, we all, in some way, will benefit. Explain, to your children that we had a president in office, that did nothing to help the sick or explain that our President Obama did everything in his powers to make sure we all had health insurance. Come together America, the world is watching us. Stop the fighting. All of these name callings, racist remarks, etc... is not going to help our system.

Posted by: dede1949 at September 18, 2009 8:24 AM

L.K's comments are indicative of the hoards of angry, ignorant ass white people I spoke of earliar. I would suggest that you look at so called "goverment hand-outs" and who has truly benefited. The Social Security Act that gave social security benefits to millions included specific verbiage to EXCLUDE the jobs that millions of minorities held- Not an accident. There was and is so much inequality in the disbursement of goverment funds, in favor of whites, to schools, municipalities,etc that it would make your head spin. The justice system has "diversion" programs in many white suburbs that diverts young , white , criminals out of the criminal justice system. They don't even get a criminal record. So called welfare? Here are the facts- the MAJORITY OF recipients of welfare(cash and medical assistance,and food stamps) are white people- number wise AND per capita. Crime rates? Lets look at that for a moment. Many would argue that blacks perpertrate more crimes than whites and thus it makes sense to engage in profiling. By that logic every young white male should be treated as a possible terrorist as last time I looked Timothy McVeigh perputrated the worst act of home grown terrorism in this nations history. See my point. Race is so intertwined in this countries history , policies, and practices that we really need to have some serious discussions. No insults intended to anyone, I just think that everyone needs to examine themselves and see if they are as color blind as they think.

Posted by: kpaul at September 18, 2009 8:29 AM

Racism was rarely talked about before this presidency, now everybody who doesn't agree with the president is a racist. We must have gained around a hundred million racists in the last six months in this country. Thats incredible! In the past, people who disagreed with the president weren't even acknowledged. For the record, I HATE Pelosi, but I don't know what to call myself because I'm white. Pelosist? Bitchist? facetotightist?

Posted by: Kevin at September 18, 2009 8:33 AM

First of all, I for one don't have a problem with freedom of speech. We should be able to voice our opinions freely with no equivocation. The expression should be constructive and not have a racist undertone, or deliberately in a lot of cases.
You also talk of a lack of plan and bankrupt, but that sounds all so similar. In fact that is exactly what the Republican do to this country when ever they are in office. We were in a state of war and debt with Bush(H.W.), then a state of peace and surplus with Clinton, then Bush(W.) threw us back in war for weapons never found, let Bin Laden get away, ate up the surplus and left the office with debt. Whoever won the election, Obama or McCain, would have inherited a complete mess. There have been some decent Republican presidents in the past, but we've not seen any in a couple of decades at least.
I'd rather have Healthcare shoved down my throat by the supposed "Big Gov" than a bomb unnecessarily shoved up my a&$ for the sake of "Big Oil". (Which we didn't benefit from!)

Posted by: Charles at September 18, 2009 8:43 AM

Sounds like Pelosi is running scared. Just like somoe of the commentors say, everytime a white person disagrees w/the Prez, we're "racists", yet the blacks can say and do anything they want and DEMAND their rights. What rights....the right to rob, steal, kill and then not be prosecuted????? And check the statistics....there are MORE black criminals than white, because they're too lazy to get off asses and get out and get a job. The so-called Prez is one of the biggest racist going....look how he stuck his nose in the mess in NY BEFORE knowing the actual truth. All the "professor" had to do was cooperate w/the police; no, he was BLACK and HE was gonna do what HE wanted. Everything has to be about THEM; it's gotten to the point that the whites are fed up w/this so called Prez that doesn't have a clue as to what is going on and we're disgusted that he keeps "apologizing" for America. WHY???? He is trying to destroy everything our great-great grandfathers on down to our fathers and sons have fought for to keep us FREE and if he can't stand the FREEDOM OF SPEECH, go back to where he came from (since NO PROOF of birth certificate has ever surfaced!!). STAND UP FOR YOURSELVES WHITE PEOPLE, CAUSE NOBODY ELSE IS, ESPECIALLY THE PREZ.

Posted by: hot mama at September 18, 2009 8:59 AM

Pelosi is stupid....if there is violence it will not be over "race." Remember Obama won with an overwhelming majority of the vote..who was screaming racism then ?

If there is violence it will be due to the people's frustration with our do nothing, tax me out the nose government.....not race...

Jimmy Carter has the I.Q. of a peanut..and getting more stupid with age...shut up Jimmy.

Posted by: joetaxpayer at September 18, 2009 9:05 AM

I think that everyone is missing the point. The point is regardless of how you feel towards the Preisident as a person, we should should still respect the fact that he is our President. We have given all of the other Presidents the respect warranted by the position, so lets do the same for President Obama. Look guys, the whole world is watching us bicker and seeing us fall apart. We are losing what little credibility we have left with the rest of the world. If we don't respect our leader nobody else will.

Posted by: cjpjazz at September 18, 2009 9:15 AM

This country is as far as i"m concerned the best in the world. It is not through an accident. this has happened. Many men and women have given there lives for these freedoms that we have today. Men and women of all colors. when we discuss issues that we feel passionately about, we must remember that we are all AMERICANS. That the respect we teach to our kids is the same respect we must have for each other weather we"re of one race or another or of one political party or another.

Posted by: J.B. at September 18, 2009 9:18 AM

Warnings from Pelosi ring the horrible sound of worries of revolution. This is not a communist or socialist nation. These types of concerns should not reach to the United States of America. The administration should begin listening to the people. This is not black & white nor is it democrat & republican. If it was, this would already be passed. The democrats hold a majority and the power. I can't understand why the president would continue to drill something down the throats of the people when they don't want it. I don't like people telling me what's best for me. I can think on my own and America is thinking on their own. This is not a dictatorship. Let this just be put to bed until a better solution comes along that the majority of people are comfortable with so that we can remain together in uniform as the best and most powerful nation in the world.

Posted by: Anthony at September 18, 2009 9:20 AM

carter has done some good, since he was booted after 4 miserable years as our pres, i have to give him that. he was a good diplomat. but for him to have come out and said that wilson's outburst was 'racist'...all he did was further divide and weaken our nation. what was he thinking? his remark only perpetuates and recognizes the deep rooted racism that does exist in certain segments of our society. pelosi's remarks only further the chaos. how do they NOT see what they're doing?

Posted by: mjdavelson at September 18, 2009 9:31 AM

It seems that some people,whose political beliefs seem like relegous beliefs,will stoop at nothing to discredit,undermine, or destroy the President's progress. I would not be surprised at all to see some "inspired fanatic(s) " stoop to violence.

Posted by: Will Bud at September 18, 2009 9:38 AM

I doubt Nancy will read this, but she asks that reason prevail. What amazes me is that there is no rationality when it comes to Obamacare. It is illogical, unreasonable and non-sensical. The only way to make "sense" of it is that the Libs are trying to gain power and control over the American electorate by controlling more and more of our lives and making us more and more dependent on them. That is hardly freedom. Dependency on the government robs us of our freedom.

WE ALL WANT HEALTHCARE REFORM! OKAY? We all don't want big, corrupt government providing it. There are other ways to provide healthcare reform, that absolutely minimize the government's role. But you and your Lib friend, Nancy, won't even recognize those alternative approaches, because it would not allow you to gain control over our lives and rob us of our freedom.

Some rationality could be brought to bear, Nancy, if you and your fellow Libs stopped the smoke screen and screams of "Racism" every time someone disagrees with the policies and ideology of this Marxist President. WE DON'T WANT MARXISM IN THE UNITED STATES!!! What part of that don't you understand?

Instead of calling the American people nasty, names, and instead of lying, distorting and spinning the truth, and utterly ignoring alternatives to big government control of our lives, why don't you listen to what people are saying? They are fed up with you and the Socialists trying to take over this country. 72%, according to Frank Luntz, of the American people are furious with the Libs, and this president. His data cuts across demographic lines. People feel lied to, manipulated, & betrayed by this president. IT HAS NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TOD WITH RACE! So cut out the phony charges.

Check all the polls that say that the vast majority of people don't want you, Obama, Harry Reid and your socialistic policy and ideology. That would be a refreshing change if you did that. It would also be refreshing if you would resign.

Why do the Libs harangue Joe Wilson, but ignore the incredibly corrupt Charlie Rangle? He is as corrupt as they come, but not a word from the dems. How phony is that????

Posted by: Gary at September 18, 2009 9:45 AM

What in the world do all of you ignorant people expect a man (President Obama) to do with all the stupidity that was done and left behind by the demonic G.W. Bush? You all seem to have a problem with the fact that President Obama is not only bi-racial, he is intelligent, don't put with a bunch of foolishness from anyone, and refuse to lie to the country about what is going on.
I respect any man that has the balls to stand up and tell the truth, whether or not he is black/white/purple/green/blue/yellow or democratic/republican.
When everyone can deal with the fact that the President is a man, regardless of his ethnicity, then maybe you all will respect him.
Just like you and the rest of the stupid hemorrhoids, if you don't like it, then you leave.

Posted by: Intellectual at September 18, 2009 9:56 AM

some of you seem to have forgotten how many white people voted for obama and as some have said, race was not a campaign issue. obama came across as a better candidate than john mccain. that's it pure and simple whether you like it or not. obama rallied voters like no one has in a long time and mccain, though i think he is a capable, thoughtful and honest man did not. and i voted for mccain. now that obama is the president everyone should support him as president out of respect for the office and remember the issue of race did not come up until there was a focal point for people to truly disagree with the president's proposal for health care. i personally am not sure i agree with president obama's health care plan, but how many of you have read the bill? i have not. much of the media has presented both sides, saying it may not be quite the socialist instrument some think. my concern is that it is being pushed too quickly and that there is no provision for congress and other government officials and employees to be required to be part of that plan.i also wonder whether enough effort has been made to find less costly but still effective addition, it seems that those who vote for it should be required to live by it, but then when has congress ever lived like the rest of us? why is no one mad at them? as for nancy pelosi, i think she is dangerous. she comes across as confrontational, divisive and arrogant and if anyone is inciting violence it is she. i have no feelings for president obama one way or the other as far as liking or disliking him since i try to evaluate what he does not who he is. however, i feel quite strongly that i do not like nancy pelosi at all. one look at her and you can see she is angry all the time. she and congress should be everyone's concern much more than the president. many of you need to get real here and try to look at this from a rational perspective and leave the emotion out of it.

Posted by: ak at September 18, 2009 9:56 AM

First part is for Charles and anyone else who agrees with him. You need to take another look at the Clinton years. The military was spread out in more places and were deploying almost as much as we are now. As a matter of fact, Afghanistan is 8 years but that doesn't even touch Bill Clinton's record of 16 years in places like Bosnia. Secondly, no one respected George Bush just because he was the president, why should we start now. Jimmy Carter? Diplomat? He supports Obama because he did the same thing for 4 years; travel around the world apologizing for America. Nothing better to bolster terrorist resolve like realizing that their plan for years of struggle to weaken American resolve is working. In short, the mass media cannot continue to hide the fact that the majority of Americans elected Obama, just like the majority of Americans don't want socialized health care. Time for the democratic party to wake up and smell the protest.

Posted by: KL at September 18, 2009 10:00 AM

Since when has disagreeing with someone become a racist movement ? I always assumed that there is always 2 sides to every issue. I am so sick and tired of the Dems back pedaling by using such tactics. They had more than enough votes to pass the healthcare bill. But, they chose to not cram it down our throats to save theirs. Isn't it funny that they made the big noise that changing the system is the right thing to do, but, if they would force the issue, it would be political suicide. They are more worried about their damned jobs than doing so-called "what's right" for america.

Posted by: kevin at September 18, 2009 10:02 AM

I'm black, voted for obama, and no don't support him. Am I racist? This ain't got nothing to do with race, I know as many black folks that are racist as white, sure it all exists. What matters to me is these fools, bush and obama and all the rest of them are bailing all these rich folks out while they ain't helping nobody around where I am.
they are all the same up there. Most of the white folks I know voted for obama, but if they didn't, don't mean they are racists. I think if obama was white (he might as well be anyways)- he'd still be under fire from everyone for this bullsh*t they are pulling.
and nancy pelosi? come on- aint' nobody likes her period- she and them far left liberals ain't for no one but homosex*als.
and here I am and most of the people I know- right in the middle with no help from no one.

Posted by: john wane at September 18, 2009 10:05 AM

and ain't nothing more them fools would like than to start a fight between blacks and whites so each side can conquer and divide. open your eyes folks- it ain't racism- it's the govt's way if keeping us seperated so they can keep dogging us.

Posted by: john wane at September 18, 2009 10:08 AM

Well Nancy the people are pissed out of what the President is doing and what you are doing. The people aren't going to take it any more. and they are showing their anger. These people are going to remember all of the Demarcates even you in 2010. Nany this is not Pleasantville where everything is perfect and nothing goes wrong. That's the world you live in. Why don't you go these Tea Parties and hope the people don't throw tomatoes at you. Nancy get out of Washington once and while and see what is really going on. Let me ask you a question would you go on the new health care program that the President is trying to pass Oh I forgot the tax payers pay for your health care. Cher once said if you don't like what you see change it, Nancy this is your one and only time to side with the people for the people and by the people or you will wind up not being Speaker of the House think about it.

Posted by: Ernie at September 18, 2009 10:11 AM

Well Nancy the people are pissed out of what the President is doing and what you are doing. The people aren't going to take it any more. and they are showing their anger. These people are going to remember all of the Demarcates even you in 2010. Nany this is not Pleasantville where everything is perfect and nothing goes wrong. That's the world you live in. Why don't you go these Tea Parties and hope the people don't throw tomatoes at you. Nancy get out of Washington once and while and see what is really going on. Let me ask you a question would you go on the new health care program that the President is trying to pass Oh I forgot the tax payers pay for your health care. Cher once said if you don't like what you see change it, Nancy this is your one and only time to side with the people for the people and by the people or you will wind up not being Speaker of the House think about it.

Posted by: Ernie at September 18, 2009 10:11 AM

The biggest problem we have as Americans are so many people follow like sheep off a cliff.They listen to all the media blitz being forced down every ones throat by all these arrogant asses like Limbaugh and his clones that,by the way,is paid for by all the big business interests.there is such a one sided skew of the truth,that they start to believe it.Health care is the most importent issue we have,and finally some one has the guts to push congress to fix it. the longer the right can fog the issue the weaker the dems can act.They have to act now before its too late.Also this country has to pass a fairness of oppinion act that will force broadcasters to give even time to the issues that face our nation.

Posted by: bob at September 18, 2009 10:22 AM

I am having great difficulty understanding the "racial" issues in this country. I am a white man married to a black women (I love my wife with all my heart and we have a beautiful child together) and have witnessed and experienced racisim on BOTH sides. My wife and I have often received "odd" looks from whites when we are together in a majority-white area. However, I have also experience racism first hand - the best example or memory I can think of is when I was in an all black church with my wife and the assistant pastor (a black woman) was painting whites as "the Devil" blaming them for the black community's problems. If racisim is to be frowned upon, shouldn't it be frowned upon at all times? If a black person is acting "racist," should that person also suffer "bad press"? For example, Kanye West pulls the microphone from a white 19 year old country singer to, in essance, tell her that she should not have won an award but instead a black women should have won; yet, not once was race mentioned in this incident! (Listen closely to Kanye's lyrics if you don't think he's a racist!!) Now, we have a real issue with health care that Americans are concerned over and instead of dealing with those issues, we are talking about "race"! A decision on the race issue must be made so we can move on to the real issues at hand: If race is brought up, it should be brought up ACROSS THE BOARD; no matter who is acting in a racist manner. Otherwise, leave it out.

Posted by: tom at September 18, 2009 10:26 AM

I agree with bob, but those fools stay on the air cause they are making money. just like them jack asses on msnbc, they are all set up like props from both sides- left and right, and again here we are broke in the middle.
limbaugh=olberman, they are both hate spewers.
that is what mlk would say.

what about some common sense in the middle? someone like evan bayh or something. we need health care reform, but I don't want the govt running it. and I don't want to pay 1000 deductible on the crappy plan I got now. need something that makes common sense in the middle.
obama does some common sense stuff, but he also does some radical left wing crazy sh*t, and is a stooge for these unions.
bill clinton was common sense. bush-too far right, obama-too far left.

Posted by: john wane at September 18, 2009 10:30 AM

Obama is trying to make everyone equal,it ain't gonna happen!!!!

Posted by: Charles at September 18, 2009 10:34 AM

I'm a white guy who works my ass for a little over 20,000 a year. what does kanye and these rich black guys have to complain about? or be racist about. I agree with john- it's a matter of politics, and it's a matter of those that have, and those that don't.
I don't like kanye or obama, but not because they are black, because they are silver spooners, and I'm working my ass off. I don't like bush, or kennedy's or none of these people that don't know what it's like to have to work for a living.

Posted by: carl bresson at September 18, 2009 10:35 AM

Thats why liberals are called limp wrists...LOL Pelosi and Obama have lost the arguement and lets face it, the only person that has shown racism is Obama with the police officer. If you listen to jimbo carter who was a terrible president and totally useless since then, you are a tool. This racism is so old, but probably a good thing since we can see who are REALLY still the racist!!! Good luck sheep, you lost!

Posted by: nobammy at September 18, 2009 10:36 AM

I have seen all of these comments that these Tea Parties and media have been saying.It does not surprise me what they are saying, For one Obama has done more in these few months he has been in office than Bush did in two terms and we already are calling him a failure.Sometimes it is easier for people do complain than to actually get involved helping the process. I as american see only people that have money complaing, why don't you go ask a poor person if they need help.Most likely the would welcome it.
If Obama is the anti this or socialist what does the make the republican party.. the devils puppets.I am a person who made money from the ground up and I personaly do not mind having to pay or volunteer more of my time to help those less fortunate. Isn't that what it means to be not just an american but a human being.Helping those who have less.Where is the love and compassion that everyone had when 911 happened,americans were so ready to help then.What Happen...Well I guess we all went back to what we do best only wanting to be rich and have everything and not caring who we have to step on to get it.Americans need to stop being the problem and start helping the problem.

Posted by: John at September 18, 2009 10:48 AM

senseless bickering without resolution is just
venting, whats the use-we are headed for civil
war in the 21st century(armegaddeon)!!

Posted by: charles garrett at September 18, 2009 10:49 AM

KPaul I can tell you I am not a racist....I don't think that you can and be honest. I work every day with probably any ethnicity you could possibly think of, and we all get along very well and I see humans working together not any particular skin color we are all working for a common goal and that is to keep our jobs secure and to keep our company functioning. With out that team work we can not achieve this goal. You say no offence to any one...then why do you start every comment with Ignorant White Ass People. You are simlply showing your racism right out in the open. If you think you are being treated poorly nobody is holding you here, no more than anyone is holding me here. Unless you are legally bound to stay here, in that case get done what you have to then go on with your life. I don't care what color our president is, but if I don't like what is coming out of his mouth I should have a right to say it, and not be affraid to say it because someone will label me as racist. Nobody would of said that to you if you said Bush was a idiot, unless you said "That ignorant White Ass Bush....."
Don't preach someone is a racist when you can not say you are not one yourself.

I also don't believe that when the "Liar" comment was said that it had anything to do with race. Obama has been caught in some lies recently and they keep having to cover his tracks...the AARP is the first thing that comes to mind, they weren't backing him on any of the plans when they jumped the gun and mislead people saying they were. In my book that hurts his credability, some people would say he is a liar, and some one did but not in the proper forum.

Posted by: Mj at September 18, 2009 10:57 AM

The left wing media in our country are the self appointed political correctness police. They use their position to force that point of view on our country. The problem is that it is only applied to white people. Sonya Sotomayor made a rather racist remark that was ignored by the left wing media. As a white woman running for office or being selected for a judiciary appointment by a republican President try defending yourself after making a similar remark, “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a White male who hasn't lived that life” What would the reaction be to that? I think we all know what the reaction & conclusion would be. To make such a statement would be racist, period. If you are white that is. If you are a minority you may say anything you like, you will get a pass.

Why is our country like this? Racism is a multi billion dollar industry, the government hands out cash to special interest groups to combat racism & help poor minorities, if there was no racism lots of left wing hate groups like ACORN would have to go out of business and the members would have to find real jobs. (instead of trying to help pimps & hookers set up brothels) When you make a living off of racism you will work hard to keep it alive. It’s much easier to stir the pot and keep the hatred alive then it is to go out and become a productive member of a civil society.

Posted by: Zach Wylde at September 18, 2009 11:00 AM

lets stop the bickering and come together. to many radicals in this country. and all the while we argue iran is getting a nuke.
obamas got a lot more done? yeah, a lot more in destroying the country. and a lot more in being a sissy while these arabs get ready to take us out.

and LISTEN- don't be fooled into thinking those tax dollars you are giving up are going to help the poor, they are going in the pockets of all those big companys and rich folks.

Posted by: rick flair at September 18, 2009 11:00 AM

Race has never been an issue because this country has never had a black president until November 4, 2008. This country has always been ran by a white man and that was the norm so it has always been the matter of who stood for and supported my same beliefs,a DEMOCRAT or REPUBLICAN and now since the balance has CHANGED you are starting to see the anger, fear and hate in some people. You are beginning to realize that all the racism did not die off with the older generations and just like old fads & trends that has come back out so has racism but in a more modern way. It was not just black people who put President Obama in office and as a matter of fact, alot of black people did not vote for him because they were afraid for him and his family. It was AMERICANS who wanted CHANGE and knew and understood that change can be hard but it can also be necessary. If you do not agree with our President then that's fine and you do have the right to say what you want but how about a little respect and tact with the way you say it. You do not have to make demeaning remarks to his character to disagree with him and it just so happens that when some people do disagree that is where they take it. If you stop with that and just state what you don't agree with then it would not become a race issue!

Also, all black people are not lazy and want hand outs! You have complacent people in every race and another thing, if you have not walked in another person's shoes then don't pass judgement. Its plain ignorance to think racial profiling as well as gender bias does not exist so stop acting like you don't.

A few Americans cannot speak for all Americans and say what we don't want. That is the problem now you want to keep doing it the old way and not open to see if something else could very well help us all.

Posted by: Houston at September 18, 2009 11:00 AM

whole lot of rich black folks now too.
lots of poor white folks voted for obama thinking he would help them, and he just helped the big banks.
If obama ran the country like bill clinton I would love him. he's a jack ass bailing out gm.

it ain't race, he's a fool, just like every other rich black, white and latino up there.
it's not black and white. it's rich and poor.

Posted by: rick flair at September 18, 2009 11:05 AM

I'm surprised they haven't gone after obama harder than they have considering the treatment of george bush. how respectful were they of him?
obama should get the same treatment.
good for white, good for blacks, good for anyone that gives that kinda karma, comes right back to them

Posted by: gary chandling at September 18, 2009 11:07 AM

This is for John Wane, or more correctly John Whine. Ever seen this "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country. "
Stop whining about the gov't not helping you. Get a job, be a man, and help yourself.
I personnaly LOVE the fact that the Democratic party is self destructing. Unfortunately I believe most in this country aren't intelligent or motivated enough to vote them out of office.
I think Congress should have the same Soc Sec plan we do, and have to use the same type health care plans we have access to. If that were the case, their tune would change.

Posted by: Cleodis at September 18, 2009 11:11 AM

You IGNORANT people!!! I am talking to those who keep referring to OUR PRESIDENT as a coward! Have we not lost enough American lives fighting a fake ass war? When the next call come, are you gonna suit up and go fight? He never said he would not act when necessary, he is just trying to save a few lives and give some families back their loved ones and not put us in deeper if not necessary.

Posted by: Houston at September 18, 2009 11:11 AM

I don't know why we are fighting in afganistan anyways, I thought obama was going to get osama bin laden?
they ain't doing nada over there.
drop the bomb or get out.
bush=iraq, obama=afganistan, ain't no difference.

Posted by: john wane at September 18, 2009 11:15 AM

Communist Comrad Polosi, woman you are one Twisted evil and un human person by calling the american puplic the names I keep hearing comming from your mouth . Read the lines , when a person speaks about others in hateful dialogue ,that person is actually saying what is in their hearts and minds. You miss polosi and your corrupt congress are the eveil doers here and will in the end loose your battle to make America a communist country. by the way how many of the Presidents ancestors have fought American wars to have a free and honest america ?

Posted by: wayne at September 18, 2009 11:18 AM

and he don't care nothing about saving lives. come on fool.
they all got a agenda, and he ain't trying to help nobody but his cronnies.

Posted by: john wane at September 18, 2009 11:19 AM

If obama told pelosi, reid, olberman, and all the left wing nuts to shut up- people would love him.

he's just a puppet.

Posted by: jamey at September 18, 2009 11:21 AM

I'm white, Baptist, evangelical, highly educated, republican, family values oriented, and this administration does not reflect me in any way-liberal, socialist, antiGod, anti-life, anti-American!!! Yes, I'm white-but that was not my choice-I'm proud of the things I can control, my behavior, my attitude, my work ethic! Obama does not represent me in any way shape or form-his color is irrelevent to me!!! I'm a Christian and answer to a real God!!! Not someone who really despises Godly values, life, and America!!

Posted by: alabama american at September 18, 2009 11:26 AM

What I find find very interesting is that many who seem to always decry"racism" have no problems whatsover espousing and sympathizing with ever so thinly veiled anti semetic views.

Posted by: IAN at September 18, 2009 11:34 AM

My question - and food for thought . . . Why is the healthcare bill supposed to be sooo wonderful and great for ALL Americans EXCEPT the politicians who planned and passed it? IMO every politician and their families, the president and his family included, should be expected to enroll and abide by the same plan they have set up for the rest of us. I would feel then that it may be a truly fair plan. Common Americans will always be under the politicians until we limit them to one term and demand that they return and live under the laws that they have created for the rest of us! Good Luck to any incumbent in 2010. Good Luck to all of US.

Posted by: midwestgirl at September 18, 2009 11:45 AM

Of what I have read here, I found one person who hit the nail on the head. I agree with John Wade. Racism exists for sure, but it only becomes an issue when some politician or rich people need it . Racism is a weapon used by the political and corporate elite to keep us (black, white, etc.) from becoming united. Together we have power but divided we are at their mercy. I don't like Obama. I don't like what he is doing to my country, the freedoms I had. I don't like what he and Nancy Pelosi are doing. It scares the hell out of me! Take a good look at the people who are bringing up the racism issue - I think you might discover they are from the elite population in some way. I remember the racial tensions of the fifties. I was a little kid and did not understand a thing. I remember in kindergarten a little black girl telling me I better not drink from the fountain she had just drank from because it had her germs on it. I did not understand - I drank from the fountain and I am now sixty years old. I fought in Vietnam. My daughter is serving in the US Army and my wife works for the Public Health Service. I love my country and it sickens me to see it becoming a land of 'hurrah for me and screw the other guy.' Translation: Hurrah for the politician and CEO - Screw the general population.

Posted by: ken kirkland at September 18, 2009 11:53 AM

Mj I have read your post and I believe you are sincere. No I am not a racist. I am giving it to you all raw-thats all. I happen to be biracial.
As I said in my post some people have legitimate differences with the President and I can respect that. However when the critisism of him include "racial" references then it is racial. For example- go back to Kenya= go back to Africa.And, of course we all understand the allusion to him being a witch doctor. Those are "racialized comments" that engender sterotypical racial traits. If they call him an idiot, yes even Nazi, those are believe it or not racially neutral. Hope I have helped you to better understand my posts.

Posted by: kpaul at September 18, 2009 11:54 AM

there isnt anything more racist than the republican policies rightwingers try to push thru

Posted by: nacho at September 18, 2009 12:17 PM

Excuse me? "Ignorant Ass White People" Uh...Obama is half white, the race play just doesn't work here.
Violence...oh yeah, but not from angry young black men with guns. It will come from where it is not expected, angry americans with guns, defending our constitution. We have a constitutional right to bear arms, and we will. The current administration came in with an agenda, Obama was sought out by people with an agenda, people who don't love the United States, people who desire to see the United States become weak and fail, people who will take our basic constitutional rights and crush them. Our " mission statement" remains the same as in the original constatution. Don't mess with it or us. By the way am I

Posted by: lechezz at September 18, 2009 12:18 PM

All American need to wake up. The new healthcare plan for blacks and whites cuts Medicare spending and also raises taxes on all of us. I am tired of paying for free services for those Americans that choose to stay home and not work because they make more money being lazy than going to work. I am self employed and have been for almost 30 years. I have always paid for my own healthcare, my children's education etc. and I am a single Mom. If I can do it without the government's help so can everyone else. I work in health insurance and I know the current bill is not good for our country. I have many Canadian friends and I know our healthcare if much better than their government plan. Our forefathers came here to be free of government and excess taxes. Why do we want to go back? I'm not racist. I am a free American who wants to stay that way and have my own free choice of what I want. If I have a tough time, I will survive.

Posted by: Cheryl at September 18, 2009 12:23 PM

Since everyone wants to talk about it being a race issue, then talk the race issue from both sides. Do we have WET (White Entertaiment Television)? Is there a White History Month? Is there an organization call the NAAWP? So we have all WHITE universities? If you want to whine about race and descrimination, let's consider what would happen if the white people in this country instituted some of the aforementioned elements.

Posted by: DW at September 18, 2009 12:24 PM

i am so amazed at what our president is trying to do to this country. people should listen to the CONTENT of what he proposes and not on race, etc,etc. i feel he is trying to destroy this country from within. America IS speaking!

Posted by: sara halcomb at September 18, 2009 12:28 PM

I think people of all races are tired of what is going on. This is nothing to do with color but what is going on with the country. When we made our ideas known about George Bush it was not about color and that is the same with Obama. Its about what is going on with the country. All this race stuff is just a smoke screen to get people to look a differant way at things and not the way they should and see what is really going on. This is about America and everyone here. We are Americans not this type of American or that type of American and we all need to stand up for what is right and keep America great. Other people come here because where they are from is not good. Where are we going to go to when America gets like other countrys? Open you eyes America things can happen when you keep your eyes shut to what is going on and it will be too late to change it if you do not do something. Start Now And Get Off Your Buts For A Change And Do More Than Just Talk. Why do you want people in office that spend all this money and do not even read all there is to what it will go for. Why do you want people in office that give money to corps. that hurt this country. How can they look you in the eye and really say they are doing this country good. There is something going on and it is not good. Wake up Wake up and help us stay America that we all love.

Posted by: William kimberly at September 18, 2009 12:33 PM

It is obvious to most casual of observers what Obama is attempting to do in this country, and it is NOT to make us better. There is no question that he and his cronies have a socialist agenda and the American people have finally begun to open their sleepy eyes to view the shady and underhanded manner in which he attempts to undermine the very foundations of this great nation. I particularly am disgusted that he nor his administration can produce the solid, undisputed evidence that he is even an American citizen.

Posted by: Gunny at September 18, 2009 12:35 PM

I voted for Obama and I am still mad that he gave money to the banks and to the auto industry and I am a black woman. I do not believe that everyone against our president is racist however these tea parties and protest are in fact attracting these elements in high number and that cannot be denied. I understand the president is attempting to fix a very broken system, but we all as americans need to come together to help this as well, not just complain about it.

I hear a lot of socialist this and socialist that, well if this is an issue let's get rid of all socialist programs. No more Social Security it will not be there for me and even if it was as a black woman I have a better chance of dying sooner than a white woman so I may not get to use much of what I pay into anyway. No more free primary education, no more farm subsidies I have my own garden and know plenty of people who do as well. No more welfare, it is a racists and sexist program that has done more harm than good. In some manner these are "Socialist" programs and yet we all as Americans have benefitted from one or more of them, why not have the benefit of health as well? Quite frankly I could sit back and not even care one bit about health care reform I have a good job with all my benefits and because I am single I don't pay much for them. So it would be easy for me to say eh I don't care and I have no concern, however I hold myself to the christian beliefs of helping others.

I do believe that having a government run health system as an option is a very good and powerful thing. We are a capilist society and this will force insurance companies to compete for our money, as many have said the US Postal Service did not put UPS or FEDEX out of business so why will government health care put any private insurance out of business? There will always be those that will pay for what they concider exclusivity, so maybe we can come to a better dialog and those who feel they will be put out by a government plan explain why? I have yet to hear anyone give reason other than "socialist" as to why this is such a terrible thing. May God bless us all.

Posted by: Tammy at September 18, 2009 12:38 PM

I'm sure you'll find that the distain people have towards our president does not stem from their intermitent ill will nor does it stem from the color of his skin. It's simple, he has over promised and severely under delivered! He made promises that he could not keep merely to play on the emotions of voters to obtain the votes that got him elected. I do think that he is untruthful and that there has never been so much controvery (personal) with any American president before. He does not understand what people are going through since he is on an endless spree on our dime while Americans are clipping coupons and going without. America was founded on Christian principles and we are to serve as an example to the rest of the world. We should not allow for our government to make a mochary of this great nation. We should remember that we have been blessed by the covering of god and pray that our president will gain some knowledge and do what is right to help us and those in need!

Posted by: Yo at September 18, 2009 12:51 PM

Does racism exist? Of course. Some from every color/ethnicity that exists. Is everyone that disagrees with President Obama a racist? OF COURSE NOT! I hate the angry name calling that is coming from BOTH sides. Speaking out when we disagree is probably the MOST "American" "Patriotic" thing we can do. Let's keep it up but everyone be civil!

Posted by: J at September 18, 2009 12:51 PM

I agree with midwestgirl. Politicians need to live under their own rules and laws, They are our employees, not our masters. Pelosi is right,k she and Ob should be afraid

Posted by: Pam at September 18, 2009 12:52 PM

what i find most frightening, all of you. racists, dems vs. reps, obama, health care. look at what is happening, we have gone from a civil debate to hateful, angry hardcore ideas. if congress would lead the way, civilly and thoughfully, it is possible the rest of the country may just see the example being set. maybe not but it would be a nice idea. let the far right and far left cancel each others idiot ideas out and have the moderates(liberal and conservative) show the way. if not, when the time arrives, let the PEOPLE vote the entire bunch of our so called "representatives" out the door. most have so obviously been influenced or bought off they need to go anyway.

Posted by: mke at September 18, 2009 12:53 PM

I think Nancy should be arrested on grounds of possibley inciting a riot.

Posted by: It's me at September 18, 2009 1:14 PM

I think Nancy should be arrested. What grounds?Possibility of inciting a riot.

Posted by: It's me at September 18, 2009 1:15 PM


Posted by: DON GRIFFITH at September 18, 2009 1:19 PM

i think all of this is a bunch of hogwash raceism is here to stay for ever this country can,t fix its own problems how in the hell you fix someone elses problems.america is raceist always has been always will and i don,t hate nobody its just the truth white people will never acknowledge black people unless you are rich and then they want your money ask james brown and micheal jacksons family.

Posted by: charles a.gibbons at September 18, 2009 1:19 PM


Posted by: DON GRIFFITH at September 18, 2009 1:19 PM

bottom line raceism is here to stay obama did not get this country in the shape it is in.there are people do not want ablack man president.a white man don,t like jews well he do not like jesus either he is a jew get my drift.

Posted by: charles a.gibbons at September 18, 2009 1:23 PM

I think Nancy should be arrested on grounds of stupidity. I hate the whiney witch.

Posted by: cat at September 18, 2009 1:33 PM

The assination of George Moscone, and Harvey Milk can be set down at the feet of Carol Ruth Silver, Willie Brown, and George Moscone himself. They lied to Dan White until they convinced him to "Take some Time Off. Catch up with his finances" The ultimate lie was that when he was back on his feet, he would be allowed to return to his seat on the board of supervisors. When that rat's nest of hypocrities crawled out from under their rock, and Dan was faced with the reality of how it was accomplished, he reacted in a violent way. The provocation of violence came from within the government, not from plackard carrying citizens expressing their Constitutional rights out on the streets. MS Pelosi is manpiulating history to fit her needs.

Posted by: SFNative at September 18, 2009 1:37 PM

I didn't vote for Obama. My reasoning behind this: Obama is to young & does not have the experience needed for the presidency. Our great nation is in extreme turmoil currently. The American people are fed up with our corrupt gov't officials. And now we are ultimately using our freedom of speech(whether it be at a tea party or a town hall meeting). The quite ones are now speaking out. Our elected officials better listen to the people that voted them in office or they won't hold that office much longer. I guess what irrates me the most is the way these politicians spend our hard earned money. Especially for the enormous salaries they draw, and the fancy parties they have; and some of our military personnel barely draw enough salary to live on(now what's wrong with this picture). God bless our troops and keep them from harms way. GOD BLESS AMERICA

Posted by: jackie at September 18, 2009 1:57 PM

Everyone does have freedom of speech. As long as you repect the President of The United States. What's wrong with the public option? Option means you have a choice to or not. Our insurance need to be reformed. I have two insurances and when I pay my co-pay plus my dedutible I should not have a outstanding balance. President Obama is going to be ok. Turn those that are against him because of his color over to God. We could be wrong whether this is about color. I hope it is not. Just repect our President. Why would you come close to the President with guns even if it's legal. What message is being put out there. I pray for President Obama and the United States Of America. Jesus will see us through this. Those that carry hatred so be it. Jesus can fix it. Let us do our part and love each other no matter what color.

Posted by: fulloflife at September 18, 2009 2:01 PM

Freedom of Speech is granted to all. Repect is also due for our President. President Obama is going to ok. For those that are doing this because of race let God take care of them. He knows better than we do who are being against the President because of color. Public option is needed. It gives you the option to or not. I pray for President Obama and The United States Of America. Save our own Souls and obey the word. I pray for more love in the United States. Health Care needs a change. Lets be honest about it.

Posted by: fulloflife at September 18, 2009 2:06 PM

But President Obama is not a socialist..I didn't hear a lot of people complaining about their tax dollars going to Iraq & Afghanistan. I'm in the U.S. miliarty do oyu know how many we are spending on these two wars daily? It is in the millions!!!!! Your tax dollars at work paying for corrupt contractors...and we are up to almost 60,000 wounded U.S. one talks about the wounded do they?

Posted by: Darryl at September 18, 2009 2:17 PM

But President Obama is not a socialist..I didn't hear a lot of people complaining about their tax dollars going to Iraq & Afghanistan. I'm in the U.S. miliarty do oyu know how many we are spending on these two wars daily? It is in the millions!!!!! Your tax dollars at work paying for corrupt contractors...and we are up to almost 60,000 wounded U.S. one talks about the wounded do they?

Posted by: Darryl at September 18, 2009 2:17 PM

Racisim has been the by word when the Dem. and their leaders are caught in some bad situation. Remenber Rev. King, Nancy and Acorn to just mention a few. I wonder why racism can not be used against white people. Our country and all its people should join together, outs the one how are attempting to distroy this great U.S. of A. How can anyone stand tall when promises have been made but not brougyht to being. How long will it take the blake persons to see that the same promises have been made time and time again and not followed through. However since Nancy wouldn't lie and I take here would for what she states about trouble brewing. So a permit I will be getting and home and personal protection I will by. She has scared me and my family I will protect. I Did it for my country and will do it for my family. Thanks Nancy.

Posted by: 3030 at September 18, 2009 2:28 PM

Racisim has been the by word when the Dem. and their leaders are caught in some bad situation. Remenber Rev. King, Nancy and Acorn to just mention a few. I wonder why racism can not be used against white people. Our country and all its people should join together, outs the one how are attempting to distroy this great U.S. of A. How can anyone stand tall when promises have been made but not brougyht to being. How long will it take the blake persons to see that the same promises have been made time and time again and not followed through. However since Nancy wouldn't lie and I take here would for what she states about trouble brewing. So a permit I will be getting and home and personal protection I will by. She has scared me and my family I will protect. I Did it for my country and will do it for my family. Thanks Nancy.

Posted by: 3030 at September 18, 2009 2:29 PM

I think we should maybe think about getting the economy back on track before we start jacking grandmas Medicare and insuring a whole lot of people. Since I disagree with President Obama does that make me a racist? I too was waiting for change... just not capitalist to socialist. And who gives a damn what Nancy Pelosi cries about. She is the Representative of a VERY LIBERAL district. Her views in California are not up to par with the rest of the majority at all. I see the racism card thrown around alot now days. It seems the ones who cry RACISM tend to have racist views. I dont care if we have a Panda bear for president as long as he does something to get us out of the hole thats been dug. You can all play the race card, but when it all comes to a head it is policy that we are not in step with.

Posted by: Brian at September 18, 2009 2:34 PM

Well my dear Tony there are probably more angry white boys with guns than blacks. By the way fought in Vietnam in '67.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 18, 2009 2:40 PM

healthcare...i have united healthcare and just went to the doctor and it cost me 150 dollars just to go and see him and alls he told me was i got a virus.... if obama can help let him....we need another 9/11 for this country to be one just as it was after that horrible day its funny cause america forgets quickly

Posted by: BILL at September 18, 2009 2:48 PM

I would like to tell Pelosi to shut her BIG mouth, but I realize that it's difficlt for her to get her lips to cover her 150 teeth. the COMMIE party spent four tears terrorizing G. Bush, and that was fine with Pelosi. Speaking of violence, if someone calls me a racist for criticizing Obama; I'm going to use a baseball bat and knock their teeth down their throat. I am sick and tired of this racist BS.

Posted by: TONY at September 18, 2009 2:49 PM

Remember goverment by the people and for the people. How our leaders have forgotten including Miss Nancy. Now their worried when people have had enough.

Posted by: mark at September 18, 2009 2:57 PM

So the response to Pelosi's warning is even more hate speech. Brilliant.

Posted by: Billybobjimbo at September 18, 2009 3:06 PM

this country has gone to hell in a handbasket. There's not a single person alive that was a slave nor anyone who ever owned one. The descendants of those slaves enjoy the rights and freedoms that no other African nation has or will ever have. Yes, slavery is wrong, but trying to hold a nation responsible 200 years later is insane. African-Americans are to this day still "slaves"...slaves to ignorance and there own deep seated hatred for whites and there success. I hate to tell you people something but people associate with people who are like themselves. you legislate social preferences. whites and blacks look different, talk different, dress different, have different goals, different churches, different music, different vehicles, we even smell different. you will never make me accept their way of seeing things, doing things, their values or there holding whites responsible for everything they don't have. I don't care to see, associate,or share anything I've earned with them. There's not a single black person in this world that I owe something to. They should be glad they have survived and live in a country where they have an opportunity to get an education, food, healthcare, even clean water. unlike there ancestors on the continent of Africa, where corruption, ignorance and the hate for one another prevails.

Posted by: tony at September 18, 2009 3:08 PM

People are unbelievable. Ignorance is running wild everywhere. One person made a comment about actually reading the bill and I firmly believe nobody has. When the government tries to fix a problem everyone screams "Socialism and communism". This isn't the 1950's people and get over it. We witnessed what has happened when the government does not control anything. Wow, that really worked. So now the government has to fix the screw ups and the people freak out. Health Care needs a huge fix, Obama has a plan, does anyone else? Or should we wallow in the mess we are in currently: unemployment rising, businesses failing, current health care costs sky rocketing. Oh and look! People are forgetting an unproductive war in 2 fronts that has been draining our economy for years.
People don't want the government to run anything, yet we all want the help it can provide. We are in an extrordinary time that calls for extrodinary changes and new controls. Who says they are permanent?
And for anyone saying race wasn't an issue before Obama, just look at New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. Sure, race wasn't an issue there.
It's ok to disagree with the president but he is The PRESIDENT.
The biggest overhaul needs to be our education system. We need to dump billions into that or we will continue to produce the ignorance and stupidity and undereducated that this country is plagued with.

Posted by: Shawn at September 18, 2009 3:10 PM

I want my country back! If you want Socialism, move to Europe!

Posted by: AJ at September 18, 2009 3:15 PM

I disagree with President Obama on some issues, this does not make me a racist. I also disagreed with George W Bush, Bill Clinton, and a whole slew of presidents on many issues. President Obama was elected by the American people -- not just one group of people. President Obama is a gifted speaker and very charismatic. I did not vote for him because to me he never said how he would accomplish his promises, he only focused on the rhetoric. I had seen that Health care reform has been tried again and again -- the concensus was time and again it is too costly to cover everyone without raising taxes at some point in time. I cannot believe how many people bought into (and are still buying into) the rhetoric that we could cover everyone without paying for it. We as Americans must choose -- socialistic countries pay 60% in taxes to cover "free health care", "free education", etc., Americans currently pay 35%. Nothing is really free! If the law is passed, I will pay my share of taxes as always. However, until that happens, I can speak my mind. Voices will be heard not because of racism but because this is America and we still have freedom of speech (supposedly). For leaders to label what is happening is to censor by distortion.

Posted by: Mia XYZ at September 18, 2009 3:23 PM

I'll put this issue into very simple terms: You just lost your job, helath care, car was taken away, and your house went into foreclosure. All this happened when the governemnt did not regulate anything (like a year ago, and several beofre that). It's not socialism that's happening, its called "regulation". Our country has not been "taken away", come on people! Oh lets not forget the countless constitutional violations under the Bush administration.
So back to the person I mentioned above: you just lost everything but to "keep your country" you would not care about losing it all?

Posted by: Shawn at September 18, 2009 3:25 PM

"Why is it that so many of you whites are blind to racism?"

Anyone else spot the irony there? Morgan Freeman was right, racism stops when people forget that it's there, and that won't happen until people stop turning themselves into victims.

Posted by: Bill at September 18, 2009 3:32 PM

We still have so much racism in this country because people constantly rush to that being the issue. I dont think the racism has anything to do with the healthcare bill. It is its content and disagreements even amoung congress that leaves the american people wanting no part of something that was originally created to help people but is turning into a mess. Congress can't agree on the right and wrong ways to process a bill. They need to put their heads together and try to put something together that is going to benefit everyone. But a lot of americans dont want healthcare because they cant afford it. By "making" everyone have healthcare... you arent helping to the process. With higher taxes, the ones who couldnt afford still wont be affording the other things they need in their day to day lives. That is where the largest problem lies. Its not because we have a black president... it obviously has nothing to do with his race, he is the president who was elected by plenty of black, white, latino, and any other registered voter in this country. So this country needs to stop using race as a cop-out.

Posted by: jl at September 18, 2009 3:49 PM

the biggest handout is billions to an unjustifiable war and to rebuild it,thank you bush.

Posted by: davis at September 18, 2009 3:59 PM

Why is the entire planet reconizes the USA is a racist society, and Americans don't? Could it be the same as an Alcoholic being in denial. Take a look in the Mirror America! Read your newpapers. It's obvious to all, except those too stupid to see

Posted by: k24 at September 18, 2009 4:02 PM

Whites may be a bigger group in welfare, but percentage wise, blacks and hispanics use it the most.. Same goes for crime statistics as well.. Blacks and hispanics as a group have a higher percentage engaging in crime. But it is true that the biggest crime perpetrated by an individual was Tim Mcveigh.. Maybe all hold hands and sing cumbaya?

Posted by: Ralph at September 18, 2009 4:18 PM

racism - what an overplayed hand; it's about time some came up with a new excuse for their own failures - last i looked, we now have a black president, a black governor (in ny), and - in buffalo, ny where i live - a black mayor, a black commissioner of police, and a black school superintendent. in what are supposedly perceived as elite, wealthy, white peoples' sports - formula 1 auto racing, golf, and tennis - we have lewis hamilton, tiger woods, and the williams sisters (when they're not threatening ball judges with death and other bodily harm). so lately, cries of racism seem particularly overused, and ill-founded. if anything, whites need to be concerned about black racisim - just a month ago, here in buffalo, an 18-year-old white man was attacked by a gang of black teenagers while walking his african-american girlfriend home from school. he was beaten about the head with a concrete block - opening a 3-inch gash, and kicked in the face - breaking his jaw. he managed to crawl to his grandmother's house before being rushed to a hospital, where he laid in a coma, his jaw wired shut, for weeks. i hear no shouts of 'hate-crime', no cries of racism. now change that scenario ever-so-slightly - substituting a black youth being attacked by a gang of whites while walking his white girlfriend home from school - and i'd imagine the most dangerous place in the world to stand would be between al sharpton and a tv camera. but is was a white kid that got attacked by a black gang - so i guess i'll have to keep waiting for jesse jackson's plane to land, and for the cries of outrage from the naacp. in the meantime, how bout some glowing praise for the idiot kanye west and his totally rude, inappropriate, self-centered outburst at the mtv awards? i'm sure there must be some reason - probably deep-rooted in racisim - that totally justifies his behaving like a complete a-hole.

Posted by: deej at September 18, 2009 4:33 PM

kpaul: Why is it that so many of you whites are blind to racism?

Because we don't experience it firsthand. Nobody can feel the pain of another person as acutely as the person experiencing it does.

Also, we don't want to feel like bad guys, and confronting our racism makes us feel that way. We want to be good. We want to be right. We want to think of ourselves as a bunch of John Waynes defending freedom and protecting the weak and standing up for decency (which we do to some extent). But anything that threatens our heroic self image is hard to accept-- for those of us who are not as brave as we'd like to think.

The Tea-baggers honestly think they're the good guys. They remind me of the Klan, who also thought they were the good guys. That's the problem with villains- most of the time they think they're right.

Posted by: Vinzago at September 18, 2009 4:44 PM

So, which one of the are you talking about when you say socialism:

Marxism and Communism
Marxism-Leninism and Stalinism
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Posted by: Jimmjobillyjack at September 18, 2009 4:44 PM

The teabaggers make up the permanent Angry Class in America. The rest of us really just ignore you which I look forward to doing shortly. Rave on people, rave on. It's better to burn out, than fade away. Byeeeee.

Posted by: Billybimbobwellyback at September 18, 2009 4:50 PM

this country will never be great again until we get rid of all the niggers,jews, liberals, illegals,and comunnist who have taken over, the coon will never be elected to another term !!!!

Posted by: mike at September 18, 2009 4:57 PM

There it is, I knew if I waited someone would prove the racist point and I must say, you didn't fail to dissapoint.

Posted by: Billybimbobwellyback at September 18, 2009 5:04 PM

Actully, this is a very amusing. Where were Pelosi's fake tears (and Harry reid for that matter) when HER liberal base was calling Bush and cheney a facist or hitler? oh now i remember, they were in the center of the name calling. Now the shoe is on the other foot they cry foul. i am only surpised they waited this long to play the race card. When the commander in chief of the worse economic and national defense period since WW2 is your parties mouth piece you have alot bigger problems than just blaming everyone around you (expect you) for your own problems. i realize the word accountabililty is more than a single syllable, therefore its difficult for most liberals to undertand let alone pronounce, but if you try hard enough you might discover that the government is not responsible for fixing all of the nations problems. the people must face and answer those challenges.

Posted by: MoTigers at September 18, 2009 5:15 PM


Posted by: Allen at September 18, 2009 5:21 PM

Ain't it funny that all the big mouth right wingers are still here in the safety of the US and not in Iraq and Afghanistan fighting the George Bush wars! For the 8 years of the Bush Presidency, all these right wingers sat here in this country in safety while others went out and fought and died in the Bush wars. Now with Obama as President, these same big mouth right wingers are still running their mouths. Well, got news for them all .... they don't own this country and the right wing fringe is under 27% of the American population, so they can't win a national election. That is what they all are mad about right now. The vast majority of Americans see the big mouth right wingers for what they really are and the right wingers are mad about it!

Posted by: Allen at September 18, 2009 5:26 PM

(President Obama if you can read this from someone who wants you to succeed, please reform both malpractice and corporate lawsuits to bring stability to the quagmire of outragious practices that have forced jobs to leave this country and skyrocket health insurance prices.)

In all honesty I think President Obama came in at a time when America started waking up and getting angry at the way the government was handling the recession. Some of it can be attributed to racism in the politics with the boards and pictures I've seen. The majority of it is misplaced anger with the decisions being made by upper management without America's consent. Its like someone stole our wallets and identities and started buying things for us and other people that we really don't need. I'm actually one of the people, I am white btw, who wanted to see President Obama succeed in his efforts. I think the problem is he's trying to do too much too fast along with throwing some emotion behind it, in reference to the medical bills his mother worried about before she died. He has the right idea that there are some things in the health care system that need a little tweaking. It may be he's just going about it the wrong way and the wrong time, we are still in a recession with a current 12% unemployment rate. I think the malpractice reform was probably the easiest thing to start with since it is cutting back on money being taken which could encourage health insurance companies to cut their rates to more affordable ones. The outragious lawsuits and insurance doctors have to pay pretty much say it all for why they're so expensive. Most of us who are out there who rarely get sick think our coverage is fine and that we are invincible. That is until something happens to us or our family then it is too late. I admit I don't want to have to pay any more right now for anyone else in taxes either to be fair. I also know what its like being unemployed, no health insurance, and with even worse luck, catching a staph infection that almost killed me due to the part of the body it spread to. It was a 26k hospital bill for a 2 inch wide by 2 inch deep cut and for the 7 days in the hospital. This doesn't include extra stuff such as bandages, medicines, and things I had to buy after the fact when I finally got a job to try to pay it back. I payed what I could but Medicare had to pay it off in the end.

So far, we can say that President Obama hasn't spent as much as the prior administration. What I see in most of the frustration that is going on though is people already spread to their limit not wanting their children to inherit the bill for the decisions being made right now.

The idea to also press health insurance companies to accept preexisting conditions is a very noble one. Socializing may not be a great idea as of yet since you already know the Health Insurance companies don't want to give way due to the millions of dollars they make from Americans already. We already overpay more than almost any country in the world. If we start simple by just editing a few things such as malpractice, I assure you some of those actual good ideas won't get such a big pushback Mr. President.

One more wake up call I can say though is that the politicians involved need to be a little more mature about their approaches in the matter. You guys are out there instigating these fights like a couple of kids in a playground pushing each other down. This in turn is getting alot of the American citizenry to clash when we should be on a unified front pointing fingers up at the ones in charge who aren't policing the corporate thieves running away with our money. I almost feel like they're playing us against each other while they are passing off bailouts and reforms that will just enslave us. I would hope that wasn't the case though it feels like it every day. It is frustrating when I am fighting to make sure I am paying my bills and trying to be a responsible person then seeing those corporations and politicians showing up to the party and sticking me with the bill.

Posted by: JT at September 18, 2009 5:29 PM

We don't care about Obama's color! I don't care if he's pink! For crying out loud WAKE UP PEOPLE! He's doing a BAD job, and it's not because he's BLACK! We can't stand him because he has a hidden agenda - he's a liar - and he's short sighted, excuse making and racist himself! He's a muslim - non christian, baby killing - supporter. He started ACORN - what does that tell you! We don't like him because he's BLACK???? WE don't like him because he's against everything this country has fought HARD For! He's taking away our rights, wants to stupify us into being laxidazal followers with a washed look on our faces......going along with his socialist agenda, while we all hold hands and say "okay"! NOT HAPPENING in my World -

Obama -


If I were this man's mother -I'd go into hiding - not for safety but for EMBARRASSMENT!

Posted by: donna at September 18, 2009 5:45 PM

It's not a RACE issue but it's easier to say that than face the fact that he is an idiot.

Posted by: SRose at September 18, 2009 6:12 PM

OK, point by point. How is Obama doing a bad job? Articulate your position.

Posted by: Jimjojellyjejack at September 18, 2009 6:47 PM

I am amazed at the stupidity of people. Barak Obama is not a socialist, he's a pragmatist. Why do so many think the "social" in Social Security is nothing to get alarmed about, yet the government trying to provide health care for all Americans is an affront against democracy perpetrated by a president with a socialist agenda?!?


Our government has been pissing away hundreds of billions of your hard earned tax dollars on the BS "War against Terror" for years and you never got this worked up! And why, because you are ignorant, intellectually vapid stooges who follow whatever mindless banter some blow-hard right-wing sycophant that appeals to your easily manipulated sense of what it is to be a free person in this world plants in your reality-TV fried brains! *gasp*

I can only hope that someone among those who have developed REAL, THINKING MINDS figures a way to quietly stop your ability to breed and then sell it to you as a miracle diet drink, finally saving the human race from itself. Well…I can dream.

Posted by: Wes at September 18, 2009 6:52 PM

Hey Kpaul,
The angry ass white people you speak of are tired of watching their children be saddled with debt by an administration that thinks the way to solve a problem is to throw as much money as possible at it. MORE AND MORE DEBT! That is what got the economy in the shape it is in now. Everyone cannot have the 54inch flat screen, the Mercedes, the 5000 square foot house (I have none of these things!) but many Americans think it is owed to them because they breathe. I didn't fight in Vietnam but I have grown up with BIG GUNS and I love to shoot them every weekend. That way I use fewer bullets to get the job done.

Posted by: SC Native at September 18, 2009 7:38 PM

Maybe Pelosi's cries will wake up the Radical
Government and start to realize that the people
are fed up with this Healthcare Bullshit....
I'm white and Im not a black racist, in fact, I know a lot of black guys and good friends with them.. Obama is not a Black man, instead he is
a Radical Islamic Foreign raised, trained whiz kid that is working inside Our Govt to destroy it.
There is nothing wrong with our healthcare!!! If there are people w/o insurance than I'm sure the govt could provide coverage for those, w/o destroying the existing healthcare programs....

Posted by: John at September 18, 2009 7:52 PM

The idiots that always pull out the race card are just that IDIOTS. I did a 26 year naval career from the post Vietnam until 2003. Nancy Pelosi is part of the problem with what is going on. Everyone should be afraid of what is going on with America. If your not paying attention you should be. I did not serve my country to see it go down the drain like it is now. Nancy you want to do all of your items on your agenda. How about all those persons who do not pay taxes or have the correct status in this country go live at your house, and you personaly pay for it. I bet you would have a different opion then. As for the person in the oval office. He is a SOCIALIST. How about this one IS HE ACTUALLY A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN?????????? That question is still out here.

Posted by: Retired Navy at September 18, 2009 7:52 PM

The problem is not a Republican/Democrat issue nor is it about race. There isn't much difference between the parties anymore, there is an agenda and both parties are marching to the same pied piper. President Obama is IMO another puppet like Bush, Clinton, Bush, Carter, etc. If Obama is so different why are there so many Bush people still working at the White House?
The government wants to keep us divided by race, sexual orientation, religion, or a number of other issues so we don't see what they are doing to our country. It's a classic military strategy - divide and conquer. As Americans, united we stand, divided we fall. If we continue to allow our differences to be played, our country is lost if it isn't already.
I don't know a lot about what Ron Paul believes but I think he is right about the Federal Reserve which by the way is not a government institution. Whoever controls the Fed controls the president. Mayer Rothchild once said, " give me control of a natioans money and I don't care who makes it's laws, I will control that country".

Posted by: Dave at September 18, 2009 7:56 PM

The Prez is just doing what he said he would do in his campain. Those who disagree should have done so at the polls--then we might or might not have a different Prez. Many of those screaming loudest assumed he was lying as politicians customarily do. They voted for the party without listening to the candidate.

Pelosi is not stupid--however she is a lier. She said about three days before her last election that the Democrats would not demand a deadline for troop withdrawalls--then within a week of installation as Speaker she endorsed deadlines.

Now she is encouraging violence by ether or both sides in the current situation by loudly predicting it.

Frankly, I voted against Obama, but I find several admirable traits in the man.

I also think racism is highly over rated outside the bigger cities. After 23 years of a fully intergrated military, I KNOW racist come in all colors--and that, despite that, all races can work very well together.

Posted by: GrumpyOldSpldier at September 18, 2009 7:58 PM

What nancy pelosi failed tho mention during her ridiculous diatribe was that the "violence" she experienced in the 70's came from the leftist fanatics in the bay area....The woman is a compulsive liar, but this time, she just decided to leave out the facts ...Just like the rest of her hateful leftist friends.

Oh yeah, how come she didn't mention that the democratic party started the kkk ??
These radical leftists are out to destroy this country, and control every aspect of your life, the question is, will you stand up and say no more, or bend over and let them have their way?

Posted by: Barry at September 18, 2009 7:58 PM

The Prez is just doing what he said he would do in his campain. Those who disagree should have done so at the polls--then we might or might not have a different Prez. Many of those screaming loudest assumed he was lying as politicians customarily do. They voted for the party without listening to the candidate.

Pelosi is not stupid--however she is a lier. She said about three days before her last election that the Democrats would not demand a deadline for troop withdrawalls--then within a week of installation as Speaker she endorsed deadlines.

Now she is encouraging violence by ether or both sides in the current situation by loudly predicting it.

Frankly, I voted against Obama, but I find several admirable traits in the man.

I also think racism is highly over rated outside the bigger cities. After 23 years of a fully intergrated military, I KNOW racist come in all colors--and that, despite that, all races can work very well together.

Posted by: GrumpyOldSoldier at September 18, 2009 7:59 PM

Nancy Pelosi is the problem, and like many politicians, has it all wrong.The power goes from the people to the leaders "not" the leaders to the people. Did they forget who cast votes and put them there?
These politicians all must realize they took an oath to uphold the contitution and protect this country from all enemies both foreign and domestic. Now,the constituets are not enemies. The sneaky, underhanded politicians who have used their office to gain power and get rich are the problem.
Do the country a favor Mrs. Pelosi. Step down and make a lot of people really happy. We did not vote to have a dictator.Get it??
Obama needs all of our help to run the country unless we want him to rely on the likes of Nancy Pelosi and some of these czars we know nothing about. Listen to your people Mr. President. They are trying to tell you something.

Posted by: Frances Linville at September 18, 2009 8:02 PM

Nancy, a very very sick bitch, she should not be allowed to comment on anything, period

Posted by: lonnie at September 18, 2009 8:11 PM

"the biggest threat to this country are hoards of angry, ignorant ass white people marching around holding"tea parties" and standing in the way of progressive, enlightened, humanity-based reforms that will truly benefit all of society."

Hate to bust your bubble bro. To us
angry, ignorant ass white people, your idea of reform is extracting more cash from us to support your standard of living. Or are you angry because the Dems are deserting you for the larger Hispanic vote

Posted by: Anonymous at September 18, 2009 9:39 PM

Some of these comments are very alarming. It is exactly what Pelosi is pointing out. Go onto newsvine blogs and it's even worse. The hate, anger, and racial comments is reminscent of the 50's, when there was so much racial tension. I have noticed the same exact thing that Pelosi is talking about, and she is right, the 'chatter' is getting angrier, and much more threatening. I fear that one of these days violence will be the result of all this tension. What is wrong with people? Is it a collective "gang mentality", where all these angry hateful people are feeding off of the collective self riteous anger? How productive is that? People from other countries are looking at the US with disdain and disgust, for their selfish, and combative behavior. People need to graduate from kindergarten, and trade in that 4-wheel drive truck, with the huge fog lights, and confederate flag hanging out the back.

Posted by: Slinger at September 18, 2009 9:59 PM

The road to change is always frought with naysayers. The people who will benefit the most are the masses of US Citizens. A country by the people should also be for the people! Those that oppose are either ignorant, fear mongers or belong to special interest groups or are just plain stupid. Those that spread hatred and racism need to get educated and get their heads out of the sand and out of the past and move into the light. This is not about Obama it is about everyone having decent affordable health care.
Would you rather have a do nothing President like many in the past including GB who only cared about his friends and rich business cronies.

Posted by: John at September 18, 2009 10:04 PM

How is the heated rhetoric againt Obama worse than what was against Bush? There was no violence against George W., no matter how many people I heard say that they would like to kill him. I think Pelosi is just being a little over dramatic.

Posted by: Patrick at September 18, 2009 10:31 PM

Obama and his friends, The rev. and acorn cant hide the fact that they have defrauded the American people, Stole and Lied, accused the government of 9/11. called America a GD Nation and its plain Obama is a socalist. Now they are playing the race card! Is that the best they can do? Everyone knew it was coming as soon as Obama was critized!

Is Bill Cosby the only Black man that has common sence?

Posted by: Mike at September 18, 2009 10:49 PM

Yes the racist will run and hide as always when the riots begin. Remember the KKK always hide behind the hoods and long robes. The president is trying to work with both sides and the GOP(kkk) is pointing finger and doing nothing. When the riots start the gop(kkk) and fox news will be the first to come out and point there fingers and say those dam black people and the black president did this.As they run and hide.

Posted by: Lora at September 19, 2009 12:34 AM

....and she is responsible for most of it.

Posted by: John Thompsonn at September 19, 2009 12:36 AM

This isn't about racism. President Obama agrees that its not racism. So move on to more grown-up opinion. This is from
Asked by NBC’s David Gregory of "Meet the Press" if he agreed with the assertion by former President Jimmy Carter this week that Republican opposition against Obama is motivated by racism, the president said "no."

Posted by: jrs at September 19, 2009 12:49 AM

Madness, simply madness. To the Left: When you overuse a word like racism, you completely devalue it. Whatever it meant fifty years ago in this country, those days are history now. Selma is gone. Look at the numbers. The Klan and the Nazis have to truck in support from dozens of locations just to stage one barely decent rally. Unfortunately, people like Ms.Pelosi seems to be reliving her college days when it was chic to be pretentious about how liberal you were and how everyone else was sexist, fascist, racist and narrow-minded. Look real close in that mirror, Lady. That monster there is you. And it gets uglier and more frightening every day. The ghost of George Wallace and James Earl Ray doesn't scare me anymore. You do.

Posted by: Cicero at September 19, 2009 1:26 AM

wow this looks like the first step in being able to arrest anyone who speaks there mind. Pelosi makes this statement, i bet next week congress makes a new law stating anything negative being said to someone in authority is grounds for terrorism. watchout people soon you will legally be a terroist for voicing your opinion.

Posted by: tony at September 20, 2009 4:15 PM

Quote by "John Wane": "and ain't nothing more them fools would like than to start a fight between blacks and whites so each side can conquer and divide. open your eyes folks- it ain't racism- it's the govt's way if keeping us seperated so they can keep dogging us."

Regardless of race, the key words here are "conquer and divide". That is always what happens with big government.

Posted by: Marcus at September 21, 2009 5:19 PM

Racism is a two way street-it is taught in the homes of blacks, whites, hispanics, and other ethnic groups! But we constantly hear that its whites who are the racists! I live in a small town in rural alabama- where 90% of the crime is commited by blacks-black on black and black on anyone who gets in their way, when they are not doing anything criminal, they are looking for a free handout or collecting a government check!!!
The children in this town who are black-could care less about education!!! There is no home training-unless you consider a life of crime or laziness-handouts as training-I suppose it is!!!
Tired of hearing racism from the blacks- most blacks I have ever met were lazy, immoral people!
Thats how I really feel!

Posted by: alabama american at September 23, 2009 10:33 AM

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