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March 31, 2004Chuck D's UC Football Team Joke?(or Kobe Bryant Joke?)I almost hate to even mention this, but Mosaic at okayplayer pointed out a line on Chuck D's website that concerns me a hell of a lot more than the Kanye thing. Check out this last line: Ok , im getting ready to speak this night at UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO AT DENVER ,,..and im gonna avoid big blond chicks at all costs. Is there some other way I should be interpreting that, besides as a tasteless Kobe Bryant joke? If so, please let me know. Please. Without even speculating on whether Kobe is innocent or guilty, this case revolves around the possibility that a female human being may have been raped, and reducing that to "har de har har Kobe got in trouble for messing with those white women," as so many have done since the story broke, strikes me as all types of wack. EDIT: Jeremy points out he could be talking about the rape cases involving University of Colorado's football team, rather than Kobe. Unfortunately I don't think that would make it any better. Posted by jsmooth995 at March 31, 2004 1:57 AMComments
He is actually referring to all of the recent troubles ont he University of Colorado campus, not Kobe. The head Coach, Gary Barnett, recently was put on leave. Here i the most recent article from Espn.com regarding the issues on the U of Colorado campus. Posted by: Jeremy at March 31, 2004 3:01 AM not that it makes it any more funny -- talking about rape on the university campus over the Kobe Bryant case. Either way, it was tacky. Bad Chuck D! Posted by: Jeremy at March 31, 2004 3:05 AM Ugh, is that what he meant? That might make it even worse. Posted by: Jay Smooth at March 31, 2004 3:20 AM You want tacky? The lawyer for three gang-rapists in Orange County who drugged a girl and then penetrated her with, among other things, a Snapple bottle and a pool cue, is arguing that the girl "wanted" it because she was a "slut." Here's the article. Bit of a non-sequitor, I know, but people need to know about this insanity. Posted by: David at March 31, 2004 10:02 AM David -- your link doesn't work; you didn't put an actual URL in the "a" tag. Please re-post. Posted by: Joe Grossberg at March 31, 2004 11:14 AM Actually, it looks like the comment client doesn't let through links. Here you go: http://www.ocweekly.com/ink/04/29/news-moxley.php Occasionally we all need a reminder why lawyers are so reviled. Posted by: David at March 31, 2004 11:33 AM I'm pretty sure he's talking about the UC Football rape scandal. Honestly, are you really that surprised? I've heard/seen a lot of people who I otherwise respect make remarks like this. Posted by: Gabe at March 31, 2004 2:14 PM Everyone has holes in their critique/philosophy that creates statements and actions of oppressive natures, but the important thing is to struggle for liberatory self-knowledge and knowledge of others.. knowledge of self determination is key Posted by: jacksonbrowne at March 31, 2004 6:48 PM This is par for the Chuck D course. This is a man who has said, among other things: RE: America's heroes--"Motherfuck (Elvis) and John Wayne" RE: Homosexuality-- "As far as I know, the parts don't fit..." RE: Nation of Islam-- "Farrakhan's a prophet/ I think you oughta listen to..." Let's not even mention the Jew-baiting... "So-called chosne frozen" and "Still they got me like Jesus" were rapped AFTER the infamous Prof. Griff statements. Later on, Chuck D named one of his side projects Concentration camp-- I'm sure that endeared him to Jews all over the world. He defended Al Sharpton in regards to Tawana Brawley, and many of PE's songs are in the poorest of taste ("Polly Wanna Cracka", "Sophisticated Bitch"). But... he's a RAPPER, and he didn't call himself "Public Enemy #1" for nothing. Compare the boneheaded things that Chuck has said over the years to some of the crazy shit KRS-ONE (another rap elder statesman) has said over the years, and you'll see that, if anything, they haven't lost their ability to provoke and shock. It doesn't disappoint me that Chuck made Kobe jokes-- It's par for the course, really. I mean, in a day and age where Ice Cube calls himself "the Young Osama" it would be ridiculous to jump on Mista Chuck's back for being tasteless. Fight The Power indeed Posted by: Sex at March 31, 2004 9:58 PM RE: America's heroes--"Motherfuck (Elvis) and John Wayne" I agree totally. Fuck them. Seriously. Posted by: DavidD at April 1, 2004 12:55 AM Chuck has since re-evaluated his stance on Elvis, actually, I don't remember his exact words but you can probably google for it.. But I agree you really can't compare that line, which altohugh sure to offend some people was making a serious point about race in America, to this one which as far as I can see did nothing but make alleged rape victims the butt of a cheap joke. That "man on man, I don't know if they can.." line was quite unfortunate though, yes. Posted by: Jay Smooth at April 1, 2004 1:32 AM leave Chuck D alone, he has been hated on because the new generation of hip hop don't know where hip hop originally came from, they don't even know who Public Enemy is and some don't even know any Tupac songs and act like hip hop was made yesterday by these new corny rappers. Fuck Elvis Presley, this is not an outrageous statement in my opinion, i respect Chuck D and he deserves more credit than he gets. Posted by: intifada at April 1, 2004 1:57 PM I'm embarrassed to admit I know this, but the chuck d project sex is referring to was actually called Confrontation Camp. I had to review it back in the day. 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