March 5, 2005

Mel Man Speaks on Game and 50 Cent

Dr. Dre's partner Mel Man posted on the dubcc.com forums with his perspective on Game and 50:

I can only imagine the amount of rumours and posts this topic has produced - I'm sorry for doin another one, but I thought you might want some perspective on the situation. Just as we were moving away from 50's album and really focusing on Busta's new joint this happens. I don't really know 50 or Game outside the studio and working environment so I'm not gonna pretend like I know what's really going on between them. I am not surprised that Game and 50 split from each other. I think we all knew the situation was coming to a head and I know Dre, Em and Jimmy were hoping for a peaceful solution and for Game to move off G-Unit as quietly as possible. However, 50 obviously didn't want a peaceful and quiet solution. It is real unfortunate that it happenned this way, but it did and it has to be handled INTERNALLY from here on out, not over the radio station. I don't really know what 50 was thinking. 50 talks about loyalty but to me one of the most unloyal things one can do is to air out FAMILY BUSINESS in public. 50 put Dre and Em in an unfair and difficult situation. This could have been handled in a positive way. Obviously 50 and Game's relationship had deteriorated to a point beyond repair. But it should have been settled as a family. Game could have been moved off G-Unit through internal discussions and monetary settlements could have been handled fairly. I will not take sides either way. I don't think anyone should take sides and please don't believe all the rumours and media reports. The media is jumping all over this and relying on false information to generate headlines and interest. Please refrain from making judgements too soon, cause you don't really know anything besides what you heard 50 say on the radio and that game is off g-unit. Besides that eveything else is rumours and innuendo.
What has been Dre's reaction to all of this? I won't speak for him but...

I know this has hurt him quite a bit, especially 50's way of handling the situation. I know Dre was getting more and more frustrated but was hoping things could be worked out internally and they could keep a strong business and music relationship. With 50 airing out his frustration with Dre on the radio it only made things worse. If 50 had a problem with Dre he should have talked to Dre about it in private. I know 50 has a lot of respect for Dre and vice versa, thats why I don't understand his approach. I know 50 was hoping Dre would produce a lot of The Massacre, but because 50 was so stubborn in releasing the album early in the year and sticking to his (50's) schedule Dre could only spend a small time on the album. Dre was focusing on Game's debut album whle 50 was prepping the massacre. Even when 50 was out here Dre had to focus on getting game ready. If 50 would have been able to wait until Game's album was mixed I think you would have heard a lot more Dre tracks on The Massacre. 50 tried to smother Game's release and only allow it 3 weeks to sell before releasing his album. Thankfully Jimmy and Dre got it pushed backed to March.

I really hope and pray that 50 finds some peace and gets his ego in check. The 50 I met when he was here for a week to work on GRODT is much different than the 50 I saw when he was out here to work on the Massacre and Game's album. The 50 I first met was humble, hungry, at ease and really fun and positive to work with. Dre had a great time working with him. Last year though 50 was a lot different. I don't think he is real happy. The dude is surrounded by bodyguards and a Army of personal secret service men at all times. It can't be fun needing protection every waking minute of the day. Deep down I think 50 is a good person, but right now he is confused and doesn't really listen to anyone, even his musical family. And he didn't think about the possible reprecussions of his words before he opened his mouth on the radio a few days ago. I do know that as soon as they could the big three got a hold of 50 and told him to shut up for once, cancel his appearances and come handle the situation privately with them. Dre and Em are really stuck in a tough situation and have been trying to put their minds together and figure out a positive solution to the problem.

What happens from here? I hope (and think) there is a positive solution out there for this problem. I don't think 50 and Game will have a relationship, but past that too much is upon the air to speculate or predict how it will turn out. All I ask is that people stop putting rumours out - let this situation be handled as a family. Let Dre, Em, 50 and Game have a chance to get together and try to work things out privately. Hopefully 50 heeds his gag order and puts his ego and frustration aside and listens to Dre and Em and handles things the right way. The only way this situation can be worked out is through face to face discussions with everyone working together like men and seeing if relationships can be repaired and solutions can be found. 50 (and Game too) have to learn that when it comes to family problems you can't put it out there in the media and disrespect family in public. That's a cowards way to handle things. Real men talk things out in private. I might sound like I'm mad at 50. I'm disappointed more than anything. I like the old 50 Cent and hope and pray he can make changes for the better. I don't want to see him or Game dead because of some bullshit. I don't want to see 50 go down this path. Dre always stresses that you can always turn any negative into a positive. Hopefully we can take this negative situation, learn and grow from it and turn this situation into a positive one.

I hope everyone takes care. PEACE.

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Posted by: ian at March 5, 2005 9:16 PM

This story has good insight on the situation between the Aftermath crew. I don't know any of these guys personally but, I've gone through a situation close to this one. It seems some people can and some can't handle success ,and it is clear that Mr. Jackson can't. He's living on the edge right now. The reason I say this is because, some of these rap artist really do live what they speak on. In other words I don't thing 50 will be around much longer. It's seriously a sad thing to say but, I think that he's burned to many bridges. An I know it will not be to much longer before he disrespects the hands ,and I mean hands as in four that feed him. Those guys, Dre and Em have built to much to let 50 shit it all away on his wanna be 2 Pac mouth. I feel there is no turning back for Mr. Jackson his rise to the top will be just as fast as Kurt Warners was to the St.Louis Rams ,and unlike Kurt Warner. Mr. Jackson is a lost soul if you know what I mean, so his fall will be much quicker ,and alot more harder for him to deal with.
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Posted by: Nique TX at March 6, 2005 12:34 AM

I agree. This bullshit has to end. I love hip hop but I feel like I wil have to force myself into the game so that cat's will understand what the difference between beefin' and battlin' is. I mean damn' Big dropps a whole damn song on beef and cat's still don't get it. He wasn't saying he was going to kill Pac, he was saying that beef is some shit that is real. There is no fuckin' reason why Curtis should shoot off at the mouth like he does. I really feel that cat and it hurts me to think that as a father he doesn't take into consideration that when them things start poppin' it might be his ass on the recieving end. You think his son will think his pops is cool then? It ain't never cool to beef to the point that even the fans are like please shut the fuck up about this shit. Now I heard the beef between him and Inc (I have to be careful because I still think about Masta Ace whenever I see the INC) was over one of those cats having killed Curtis mother. I don't know if that is true but if it is, then this is beef. If not then someone needs to take his ass over to the South Bronx so he can chat with Krs for a while over how to battle and not let it get to personal because this ain't workin. I am about to hit Curtis' website up and tell him as a fan that I love the music but as a musician and freestyler who has always been true to this that he is wylin out a little too much knowmemean?
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Posted by: Iconoclast at March 6, 2005 6:03 AM

All of this is so unfortunate. 50... Damn I don't even know where to start. He is really the villan of Hip Hop. The ScarFace of the Game. You can't deny the fact that everytime he is on something you can't wait to hear who he is goin to dis, but after a while, the dude will be alone (yet surrrounded by body guards). Beefin vs. Battlin!!! Ego vs Business sense. There are more people involved in this "war" than the rappers and the gun clappers. The families, the Mothers, Grandmothers, the kids... that is whats real. Everybody wants to make money, but why? Most people hustle to support their families, but if you ultimately hurt the family in the end with the means that you use, then all of your efforts are in vain.

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Posted by: MannRock at March 6, 2005 11:20 AM

Game needs to quit bulshitin with this fake Aftermath/G-Unit shit "he's not even amember of them" and be a trill nigga and sign to Death Row. He Banged for 10 years, he aint scared of shit. Let somebody try to kill him like someone did to tupac. Game will blast the living fuck out that bitch and blow that motherfucking piece of shit back to their momma's pussy!cuz he can dis like hell .. if yo hear him battlin.

Posted by: ganja at March 6, 2005 1:13 PM

Wow, this Mel Man dude sounds like such a "weeny". "The 50 I knew was humble and hungry....." "Im so dissappointed with this 50" Oh boo woo hoooo; shut up and stop whining. We all saw this coming and 50 only did this to himself. Now he cant even walk really anywhere in New York. LA WAS his new home...but now he is gonna have to watch his back there as well. Mel needs to stop acting like 50 cent is such a noble man and that outbursts like the one he pulled on HOT 97 were so unexpected. Like its a real shock that 50 went on a "cutting off niggas" spree on the air. 50 is really insecure and has alot of internal issues with himself and we all know he isnt really intellegent. So Mel Man stop making him out to be an aristocrat and stop expressing how shocked you are at this behaviour!!!!!

Posted by: Melmanisasoftweeny at March 6, 2005 1:56 PM

50 aint nothin but a little bitch that wants a real good slap, someone needs to get the idiot in check or he's gonna get a bullet and ones gonna count sometime. He on borrowed time if ya ask me. But fuck it i dont even like his music gimme Ghostface all day long

Posted by: 50sALittleBitch at March 6, 2005 7:31 PM

> Wow, this Mel Man dude sounds like such a "weeny"....

I hope you're not one of these cats who goes on about how you miss Big & Pac and how the game ain't been the same since we "lost" them. How you gon' call duke a weeny when he's one of the few cats talkin' any sense during this madness? Why are cats givin' 50 a pass because he's used rap beef in the past to build his buzz? C'mon, son is a grown man now making crazy loot off the whole G-Unit empire including from Game's album. Why does he still have to act like the unknown MC he was 10 years ago making dis records to get his rep up? Leave that to Maino and Gravy. You don't wanna be down with Game any more? Fine, cut him off and keep it movin'. Why put it all on front street with the radio drama and PR stunts? This sh-t is a joke f'real. Everyone gettin' off on this nonsense and pickin' sides (like it means anything and these artists give a f-ck about y'all like that) should be ashamed of yourselves. God forbid these idiots end up killing each other, I don't wanna hear the eulogies and crocodile tears.

Posted by: ian at March 6, 2005 9:45 PM

Jay, have you actually confirmed that this post is by who you say it is? Quoting people off discussion boards is kind of questionable unless you have additional knowledge. I'm very interested in the statement but I can't really take it at face value unless you can say that you know something beyond what's presented at that board.

You know what I mean?

Posted by: Clyde Smith at March 7, 2005 8:17 AM

GAME GOT WHAT HE DESERVED

Posted by: Jason at March 7, 2005 2:40 PM

Clyde: In my experience that kind of thing is self-regulating.. when you have someone posting in a prominent web forum on a regular basis, they are subjected to scrutiny within that community, and if it is an impostor that is brought to light fairly quickly. We saw that here on this site with Just Blaze.

Given that, along with how the details of the post match what I have heard from behind the scenes, I am confident enough in the veracity to post it, while noting the source. Just as I did with the post from Game's brother Big Fase last week, which proved to be correct while most others quoted the erroneous police reports.

Posted by: Jay Smooth at March 7, 2005 4:02 PM

50's rise and fall is almost greek in its spectacle. soon he will be hold up in his conneticut home, listening to his albums over and over again. he is well on his way to be the first recluse of hiphop.

Posted by: the crossfader at March 7, 2005 4:42 PM

Thanks, Jay. I don't know the board or the history or the behind the scenes stuff so I appreciate your clarification. And I agree that the combination sounds solid.

Posted by: Clyde Smith at March 7, 2005 7:18 PM

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Posted by: yo at March 8, 2005 12:05 PM

Everybody talking about 50 like He's the shit,but truth is He was a bitch made nigga from the start, money didnt make this new 50 this way. Living off the old lines " i got shot so and so times". I wonder when we all gonna wake to these fake ass vanilla ice ass rappers tryin to be the new pac. Wake up and be real wit cha selfs..

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Posted by: Demeeche Kinard at March 8, 2005 2:51 PM

i agree wicthu jason game deserved to be bootted outa g-unit . and wassup wit da rest yo dissin 50, leave the man alone thats his decision , its over and done with !!!!!!! the game is over

Posted by: honey at March 8, 2005 3:50 PM

All of this is pure childishness, and mainly on 50's part. Of course, I have heard 50's interview on Hot 97, and can agree with his complaint with Game afterall he has been the biz a little longer; however, I definately think the manner in which he addressed the problem was immature, disrespectful to all involved, including Dre, and unnecessary. Like Mel said, he should have handled it behind closed doors. I think, as evidenced in this case, 50 is very jealous, impatient, and insecure. Grow up man! Plus, stop trying to be the next 2Pac. Inspire a kid to do something other than shoot 'em up, up in da hood, blingin' it, gangsta gangsta junk that circulates so much that our hip hop culture and next generation should be vomiting by now. Love-

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Posted by: Sean at March 9, 2005 3:54 AM

By the way DEMEECHE, honestly, as I'm typing this message I'm listening to your CD and well.....I'm a hiphop producer, and well, I'm not feelin ur style, "Got no expression, flow is not crisp, pretty amateur, bottomline, I heard much better before, pleezballevit", Go make another one.

Posted by: Trini at March 10, 2005 8:55 PM

Oh my bad, about 50, that dude is diggin himself a big ass hole, but you'd never know what can happen, I mean let's be realistic, he's at the top of the game right now, he can prolly last, but i still would not be surprised if he falls hard.

Posted by: Trini at March 10, 2005 8:57 PM

Word, if cats like Mel Man are a part of hip hop, there is hope that we can get passed bullish like this. Peace mel

Posted by: Chris at March 11, 2005 1:28 PM

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Posted by: Strait West Oakland (W.S.O) at March 12, 2005 12:03 AM

Fucc G-Unit they aint nuthin but some suckers... Any way fucc yah niggaz from new york fakeass rappers.. Strait Killa Kali West Oakland in thiz bitch fucc yah niggaz yah some damn cheaters

Posted by: WSO at March 12, 2005 12:06 AM

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Posted by: wackassniggaz at March 15, 2005 9:15 PM

hey I'm a fan of 50 but yall all be true and think bout this 50 came from nothin thats his attitude, but guess what he has somthin now and dissin DRE come'on thats bullshit.... you don't shit where you eat if ya know what I'm sayin,...... NOW the beef with Ja that was legitimate JA talks shit and doesn't back it up JEffery ATkins has to get sumbody to do his stabbin for him he can't do it himself.... 50 just called the wrong muthafucka out this time, granted the game needed to be kicked out of GGGGG-UNIT but 50 has changed the ego is larger than life he don't think b4 he speak and he's goin to be on the receivin end of some hollows if he don't watch himself.... the man needs to calm down.... BUT LETS FACE IT THEY DON"T GIVE A FUCK WHAT WE THINK ANYWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Worth1 at March 18, 2005 1:28 AM

straight out 50 is butt son is from connecuit swearen dude is from jamica queens. 50 was sick when hsi power of the dollar came out but once he got commercial he jsut started to suck. we always talked the shit he did but iin power of the dolalr he put thought to his shit he actually siad shit that was real and real cats felt now only dudes who feel him are lil boys and rich lil white boys who got mommy and daddy to buy them a car. other than that real hip hop heads dotn feel him. as far as the game son is nice and hes real one thing i dont get is these nutsack commercial rap listeners they still on some west coast east coast shit u fags need to realize we liven in hell and instead of going at ur brothern go at the demons and devils in the music biz go at the rapist and murders of women and children in this world. all i know is that lil tv apology 50 and game had was a sham. game should jsut say fuck it and blast 50 on public tv or at least gimie the gun to do cause either way im not afraid to die like these lil gangsta gangsta kids who listen to dipset and all the other propaganda music on tv and radio. like pacs son goes if i die tonight dotn cry for me i aint happy here and o yea someone needs to maek a board about wat is happening with our females and young women who are sexually active cause they are haven sex wit chumps who dotn love them as early as 13. peace to the real hip hop heads keep the revelotuion moving and fuck the pigs cop killa queens in the peace nem straight out of the home of large pro peace to jay peace to ski peace to 3d peace to all.

Posted by: nemoner at March 20, 2005 3:07 AM

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Posted by: nem1er at March 20, 2005 3:13 AM

every one shut the fuck up and stop saying shit a bout 50cent. 50 is good and is better than the fuckin game.

Posted by: bling at March 21, 2005 7:40 AM

50's album the massacre is of the chain.he doesint need dr dre

Posted by: bling at March 21, 2005 7:42 AM

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I chose not to post my name for business/personal reasons. Anyways, that quote is NOT from Mel-Man. I know Mel personally, and he has not been with Aftermath for quite some time now, he parted ways with Dre over disputes regarding production credits(and $$$ as well). He later started The Drama Family with a couple of other producers which there was a story about in The Source Magazine. They have since dissolved the production group(to my knowledge). He is currently working on another production deal with a dfferent label, however I'll keep the details out of this post out of respect for his privacy.

P.S. His real name is Melvin Bradford, and he'll literally kill you if you ever called him Melvin to his face...

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TO STOP. 50 HAS NO FLOW THE ONLY THING HE HAS IS BEATS AND SUPPORT FROM YOUNG KIDS WHO DON'T KNOW BETTER. FAT JOE IS RIGHT THIS DUDE IS FAKE.(LISTEN TO THE AUDIO FROM HIM TALKING SO MUCH SHIT ON THE RADIO STATION) THIS GUY THINKS HE'S SUPER MAN AND CAN'T BE TOUCHED. HE HAS LET IT ALL GO TO HIS HEAD. TALKING SHIT ABOUT EVERYONE AND THEIR MOM. HE EVEN HAD THE BALLS TO TALK DR DRE DOWN THE MAN WHO MADE HIM. DRE CAN PICK ME OR YOU OFF THE STREETS GIVE US A RECORD DEAL AND WE WOULD BE ON THE SAME LEVEL AS 50, HE JUST FORGOT THAT. 50 IS WATERING HIP HOP DOWN TO A VERRY BAD TASTE. I REALLY BELEAVE 50 WILL BE THE NEXT RAPPER TO DIE FROM TALKING TO MUCH SHIT.(MARK MY WORDS) LETS LET THE REAL SKILLS LEAD THE WAY, INSTEAD OF COMANY EXECUTIVES AND FAKE HYPE.

Posted by: JUAN THE DON at April 6, 2005 8:42 PM

To Everyone who is caught up in the hype,

Whether or not you are for 50 or the game,every last one of you will be held accountable for speaking every word of ignorance out of your mouth. Instead of commenting on this issue you should be praying about it and if you don't know how you should ask. While some of you are saying 50 days are numbered, well so are yours think about what are you going to say on judgement day, what are you going to do when God opens the book of life and show you every thing you did from the time you were in your mothers' womb. So i encourage you this day to choose life in Jesus Christ and not death to the gates of Hell! amen

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Posted by: jay abraham at May 1, 2005 10:12 PM

.....I dont understand why all you scrubs worry soo much about some guys who dont give a shit that you exist. As a rap fan I gotta say 50 cent is best rapper since Pac, and if you dont like him then your just HATING homie. On the other hand i dont buy any of these guys cd's because if i was the one rapping they wouldnt buy mines so fuck them and FUCK ya'll too.
p.s. GAME SUCKS, the guys cant rap for shit his 300 bar song was a waste of studio time, he dont even rhyme in half of his songs

Posted by: Jose at July 29, 2005 4:58 PM

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FACT:

50 IS GOOD.
GAME IS GOOD.

IF THEY GOT BEEF THEN LET THEM SETTLE IT WHATEVER WAY THEY WANT. WHOEVER YOU PREFER; LISTEN TO THEIR TRACKS BUT DON'T GO DISSIN THE OTHER WHEN, PERSONALLY, YOU DON'T KNOW A GOD DAMN THING ABOUT THEM.

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