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January 17, 2006"Aryan Rap" Blowing Up in Germany?Can anyone from around there confirm that this take is accurate? I'm hesitant to rely too much on "parliamentarian Monika Griefahn" as my reference for the local hip-hop scene: Posted by jsmooth995 at January 17, 2006 2:52 PM Comments
Wasn't it KRS-ONE who said, "If Hitler made music, it would be rap"? Posted by: james at January 17, 2006 6:17 PM Not to worry... Aryans were actually ancient Persians. Therefore Aryan rap is OK. Posted by: i'm the skwidawd at January 17, 2006 6:56 PM there is quite a bit of hysteria surrounding this in germany. fler's lyrics are certainly full of nationalism, which shocks a nation in which that type of sentiment is largely suppressed for obvious historical reasons. but i wouldn't say there's racism there, since the guy comes out of a multicultural crew and actually argues that if his turkish, persian or croatian friends can be proud of their country, so can he. he also says if nazis buy his music, that just shows how stupid they really are. but exactly that is happening and his marketing doesn't try to prevent that either, which makes it really problematic for me... btw you can watch mentioned video on http://aggroberlin.de/fler/videos.php Posted by: mister t. at January 18, 2006 1:15 AM I think this is a example of the media getting something and blowing it up outta scale. Like many wack ass Gangsta rappers we have here, these cats are just doing it for money, the hype, and the fame that comes with it. Emulate and play the role. Just like we give props to Criminals like Gotti, Tony Montana, Norega, Capone (all brutal figures in their own right), they rep one of the biggest, whitest, vicious criminal assholes they can get among thier people... Hitler. Gansta rap gives props to the villian. Yeah our villains were murderers and gangsters and drug dealers, but none of em' had the balls to try to rub out a whole race... NOW THAT'S GANGSTA! How u luv DAT! Posted by: Flukediggy at January 18, 2006 11:37 AM Good point. If you are oppressed, then it's OK to kill your oppressor. But if you are an oppressor, it's not OK to kill the oppressed. Posted by: i'm the skwidawd at January 18, 2006 1:19 PM i live in frankfurt with 50% foreigners and i recently heard about nazi rap as well.. hehehe somewehre in the eastern part but u know don't be scared, no one is paying attention, thats just so stupid i mean that they use original black music for their childish propaganda is just a big laugh they are hardcore muthaf++in fools there are some villages where they sems to meet and stuff but in the big cities they just get smaked in the face ! ant they know it :-) Posted by: knux at January 19, 2006 4:30 AM Their just spewin coz they lost the war! Life must really suck being rich white & german. Posted by: Flak at January 19, 2006 7:31 AM yo whuz good? my name is dj d-tale and iīm from berlin, even live a few blocks from his crib. i jus read this article an had to write about dat! this aryan rap thing is jus media hype bullshit. the label the kid fler is signed to had this provocative "german" promotion for his album which was really fucked up and could be interprated very bad. i ainīt wit da kid fler but i know people from his clikk an they ainīt racists at all. they got a lot, or even most of them ainīt from germany originally. there are a lot of black dudes too. so donīt think this is a racist thing goin on up in here. like my man from frankfurt said, u get smacked da fuck up for nazi shit in berlin! u can ask afu-ra for example, he stays a lot in berlin, havin a girlfriend here. we been kickin some shit together, so donīt get it wrong. is all good. holla back d-tale Posted by: Dj D-Tale at January 19, 2006 7:50 AM Wasn't it KRS-ONE who said, "If Hitler made music, it would be rap"? what the hell did he mean by that Posted by: Freestyle Rap King at January 29, 2006 11:57 PM I didnt know what I was getting myself into, (being from America, where I can barely understand OUR rap) german rap just because I thought it was cool... Little did I know about this whole deal. I have listened to a lot of the songs and seen videos, and I only noticed a few times that he mentioned Hitler so I let it go... By the looks of their music videos... they look more like a porno than a rap video. Too bad I already got a big custom sticker on my back windshield NEUE DEUTSCHE WELLE :o Posted by: Lauren at February 10, 2006 11:55 AM I just wanna say that German rap is sooo much better than American rap and i give props to Busihdo n Fler and all da other German rappers at elast they are proud of where they are from!!! Posted by: Erika at February 15, 2006 7:01 PM Hey guys, Posted by: klaus at March 19, 2006 8:48 PM Im sick of this crticism against fler and aggroberlin. You people need to get a life (prudes). There is nothing wrong with being patriotic. You need to remember that Germany is the leading Eurpean country, and in WWI they took on three nations on two fronts and were winning. In WW2 they conquered most of europe. While the nazi atrocities against the jew's were horendous, this is not the only country to commit genocide. By the way this happened 60 years ago get over it. There are more recent genocides that happened in africa, who mourns for them? Posted by: Octavian at March 26, 2006 1:19 PM So...can I play German rap, and enjoy it, (being a black girl who's very proud of it), and not have to worry about a whole bunch of german people laughing at me? Posted by: Connie at March 26, 2006 8:17 PM FUCK YOU MACH §§ YOU KNOW$$$$$$$$$$$ Posted by: jackass at April 3, 2006 7:42 PM fucked up american media.. twistin things like that. there are no nazi rappers, be thankful that we killed the natives originally livin in your country so you can actually exist, dickheads Posted by: ONUR at April 10, 2006 4:11 PM word. the american media is so fucking stupid... Posted by: RandomJunglist at April 23, 2006 7:45 AM Whats good peoples...as an American producer who works with several underground Berlin artists i can tell u this from MY expieriences. I dont understand the aggression in the music, it seems like they are emulating more than representing. In the US, us black folks got REASONs to be wildin..housing issues, police issues, employment issues, all kinda discriminatory shit. Why these cats buggin and mobbin like they do? And that porno shit is straight wack. Rep the real Boom Bap or sit tha fuck down Posted by: rome x at July 17, 2006 12:56 PM Rap is NOT only black music, it can be white music as well. blacks laugh at whites for listening to black rap music, SO all you people who like rap LISTEN TO WHITE RAP, such as German Rap, French, etc RAP IS NOT LIMITED TO BLACKS LONG LIVE GERMANY Posted by: Adolf Eichmann at October 27, 2006 1:25 PM not only blacks can be rappers.Im as white as it gets and can school all yal fake rappers out there. C.W Posted by: CW at November 2, 2006 3:51 PM Fuck the stupid american media. THey dont know shit. Posted by: CW at November 2, 2006 3:53 PM Is this reporter for real? This is a extract from the lyrics by Fler thatīs about four bars down from the bars in the article about nationalism: "Das ist normal, das hier ist Multi- Kulti, meine Homies kommen von überall If thatīs racist I am a piece of selleri! Posted by: Tha Truth at November 19, 2006 7:27 PM |
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