Freddie Foxxx Dissing Rakim on "The King Is Down"

damn, I thought you had the song...

"I will eat Rakim's ass alive...." - Bumpy Knuckles.

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They should start callin him Shaky Knuckles.

Is he still jealous at Ra after all these years?? His fault for showing up late to the recording studio...

Pure cowardice.

Why don't he dis Jay-Z?
Or Puff? or TI? or Juvenile?
Or Lil Jon?
or 50 cent? or all of these "Lil" and "Young" dudes?

The people who are really fuckin' up hiphop.

Why test the God?

On one hand I hope Rakim ingnores his ass.

This so fucked up. cuz I'm a freddy foxx fan.

But he has no quotables.

My favorite jam is "part of my life" that's my fav primo beat. he did it for foxx.

the other thing is the way these dudes rhyme now is all about the types of violence that one can inflict not about the complexity of the rhymes

and foxx is nototorious for talking about fucking somebody up in a rhyme.

but can he just rhyme and put words together?

Can this be a peaceful battle?

and if it is I really can't imagine foxx doing that.

he always gets all hype and hollers.

I wish it was Kool g rap vs. Rakim or the Big Daddy Kane jawn.

At least it would be peace and we would get some rhymes.

This freddy foxx bullshit is cowardice.

I hope he cancels it and doesn't release it.

We don't need this in our ranks right now.

He needs to direct that anger at these wack dudes or exposing the slave-trading radio personalities.

but on the other hand, I hope rakim rattles the shit out of his little ass and make foxx cool out and call somebody on rakim's level.

as long as it's peace.

out.

-Black People

You cain't (misspelling intentional) dis Rakim by saying "I'll punch you in ya mouf" or "if that was me in 88 I woulda shot you with my twin glocks"

You gotta dis rakim with sick ryhmes and arrangment.

First off how is it cowardly to dis the so-called greatest emcee of all time? Dissing all those "young" and "lil" dudes is too easy. Those dudes dis themselves everytime they touch a mic or step foot in the booth.

Bumpy Knucks is tired of Rakim talking slick on him. For every came there is a straw that can break its back. Freddie is no different. He's held himself back and can no longer do so. I respect that.

Now, let's talk about the so-called "god" emcee's legacy. Is Bumpy wrong in his assessment that Rakim hasn't done shit that's dope since Let the Rhythm Hit Em? Yeah, he had some decent songs on those 2 wack solo albums, but dude is struggling. He's living off his legacy while rappers like Kane and Rakim and yes even Bumpy Knucks continue to add to theirs.

Whatever happened to showing and proving? If Rakim is that great he should have no problem stepping up to the plate and accepting the challenge. However I'm sure Rakim will continue to hide behind his legacy instead of upholding it.

I need for Rakim to make a hot song in this new millennium otherwise Freddie got it. Not forever, but he is officially challenging Rakim and Rakim needs to acknowledge it.

Jay can ignore Cam because Jay is still making music. Rakim isn't doing shit but living off his legacy, and pretty soon that's really gonna wear thin with no new musical contribution.

Give that microphone
So I can take it to the front line
Cuz in a rap war, I shoot off rhymes
And sound off in parks like an M-16
When I hit the scene
Suckas turn green
Cuz I take the microphone and then I disrespect it
And then I disect it,
Put it back together
Lyrics or knuckles, man whatever
Cuz you tried to step into a lyrical punch
I had you all for lunch and took a shit
Out came a hit,
You suckas betta quit
Fuckin wit Freddie FoXXX you get licked
Now listen:
All respect due to the Blastmaster KRS One
Now Im done.....

I spit the murder one verse that's for the thugs that be thuggin'
Freddie FoXXX be busting nuff slugs at who be bugging
I get it everywhere that I go, thug loving
Cause it's fatter than Star Jones and Rosie huggin'
I've been lyrically inclined since I thought about a rhyme
Plus I knew the only thing I couldn't kill was time
So I started a long ten-year climb doing mine
While them fake niggas stay in a rush to stay behind
Bum bitch
I spit the flames til the mic's set afire
I'm a fighter not a crier, don't care who you hire
Kill your street team, burn your flyers
Niggas need Jacoby & Meyers for being liars
Now feel me
Calling major labels, tell 'em Bumpy Knuckles is in town
Tell 'em don't send no rappers out or I'm a bust 'em down
It's the king of the underground sound
Get ready for the Industry Shakedown

Ok fuck dat

now it's on.

The little shit you just posted was alright. I ain't gon' front.

I already said I'm a fan. and I ain't bout to be a turncoat.
so I'm a still be a frddie foxx fan forever.

but foxx is out his league.

you started it.

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Rakim:

Shine permanently only my mind's concernin me
Fire burns in me eternally time's eternity
Followers turn on me they'll be in a mental infirmary Determinely advance technology better than germany
--
Rakim off the 18th letter (the prophecy professor)
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End.

-Black People

You act like Rakim has more than just his one single flow? Then you're gonna post some old ass rhymes? How about something new? Oh, I forgot, he has zero new material. Even the good Dr. Dre couldn't fuck with him. That's not a good indication when Dre can take anyone and give them hits. Dre couldn't even fuck with Rakim.

Meanwhile the Don himself KRS stays putting out new music, and Kane also puts out new music. Why is it that Rakim has such a hard time staying relevant and hiding behind his slowly fading legacy while his peers continue to add to theirs? That's a valid question.

Hey Black People, how about giving me some rhymes from this millennium? Oh, there aren't any?

Why is it that Rakim's peers like KRS and Kane can still make music, which only adds to their legacy, while Rakim hides behind his slowly but surely fading legacy?

I'll never front on the 86-91 Rakim, but that was only 5 years. How about 91 through 06. Dude has been more idle that a car in neutral.

Then they start crying, "But that's old stuff. Where his new stuff at?"

"You wonder how come the album was late. I was giving you time to get the last one straight" - Rakim

Yo, the rhyme I posted above was from after '97 in the middle of the Versace wars no less.

Also Dr. Dre has a string of radio hits. But he's not known for rockin with the greatest lyricist repeatedly. Snoop's his man. Ren and Eazy (rest his soul) were his peeps.

But still I love him. You ain't gonna get me to dis Dre or anybody I got love for.

Check it out:

Just cuz Lil Jon and Ludacris might have 4 songs in rotation each month it doesn't mean the product that they release has ever touched greatness.

You dudes gotta have some respect.

Rakim has touched lyrical levels fazed by maybe four other dudes in history.

Doesn't matter if it's current or not.

Plus, we all know the Oh my God album was announced in 2001 they worked on that for three years and it fell through so then Rakim started work in '05 on something new.

So that's where we are now.

The shit I posted above IS from some of his latest released material.

Not from 86-91.

He got rhyming skills. most dudes do not.

Finally it's easy for joblo emcee to drop some silly ass new shit weekly but it takes time to create dope shit that's gonna be worthwhile.

And sayin all that I'm still a fan of Dre and Freddy Foxx.

-Black People

"...That's not a good indication when Dre can take anyone and give them hits..."

He can take anyone young and unmolded (is that a word?) and put them in a Dre song but Rakim was well established, making it a different template for Dre.

quality over quantity
thats what makes a great mc

"I will eat Rakim's ass alive on any record, any stage"

By the sound of this, Foxxx doesn't want to battle Ra, he wants to toss his salad.

Damn I got so much more to say but I gotta roll out til Friday or Saturday.

Somebody else please hold it down.

Peace.

-Black People

I can't believe what i'm reading here. I'm a huge fan of both of them but to even here about something like this absolutely hurts.

Sounds like Rocky hiding from Clubber Lang to me... ..

Let the battle happen .. on the street in Brentwood so neither one can claim homefield.. opps thats homefield for both EVEN Better.

And to those who say why should they even do this. Ask yourself what you miss the most about real Hip Hop.. and if it aint a battle of some sort.. turn yourself over to the authorities right now.

thats crazy.. and this will be a great battle..
in the end Bumpy Knuckles stands over Rakims limp dead body..

Rakim is the God lyrically, but he aint much of a battle rapper compared to Freddie foxxx

finally some hiphop news!
been awhile since the last historic battle ( nas and jay-z to be exact )

I'll never front on the 86-91 Rakim, but that was only 5 years. How about 91 through 06. Dude has been more idle that a car in neutral.

Posted by Bruce.

Wow I can really say that ignorance is bliss. So let me see Albert Einstein most prominent work was prior to 1933. You can say everything he did after 1933 to his death (Give or take on 1939) was not as revolutionary as his prior work.
So because he could not do that thru out his life, he is idle. Don't think many people would say that.
It is like a son telling a father, yeah dad, you were a good father like when I was 3 to 11. Then after 12 you like fell off.
Legend and legacy is not measured by the duration It is based on the mark of the work in the moment. Everything must die...period. Hence to allow duration to become key component of that assessment is flawed.

To say the least I really like the both of them. I am still a big daddy Kane fan till today. Just think that it is more like apples and oranges. Rakim is more a deep conceptual type emcee. Freddie is on that more punch you in the mouth shit. Just does not work. Rakim works blows away freddie foxx, hell foxx said without rakim who the hell knows where this music would have been.
But I am game, would like to see what happens, just hope they respect each other afterwards.

This is just a way to try to grab some headlines (guess it worked). If Rakim never made another record after Paid In Full, he'd still be a f*cking legend. A legend that shouldn't be dissed like this. What does Foxxx have to crow about anyway? He was making tunes with John Cena just a minute ago for chrissakes. Have you ever heard a dope Freddy Foxxx jam without Primo behind the boards?

Peace.
I know Freddie, Rakim, Alvin Toney and Snake Bliss. (me and Snake still are in contact to this day)When I first met Ra, it was in 1986 or 87. We were at his moms house in Wyndanch Long Island in the basement playing records and Ra was on the wheels of steel. Besides myself, Snake (who now goes by the name of Rashaun), Ra, Ra's cousin A.J. and Freddie. While we were down there, Freddie kept saying he wanted to fuck somebody up ALL NIGHT I might add. Everybody kind of ignored him because that was Freddie just poppin shit. Keep in mind that it was around 11pm to 12am in the morning. Later, Ra's sister told him he had a phone call upstairs. He went upstairs to take the call and we were still downstairs. Ra came back in like a half hour and told us his cousin had some beef in Queens and we was heading out there to see what was going on and handle it. Ra then cut off all the equipment and we went outside to the cars. Freddie had a Cadillac Seville then, I'll never forget it; it was like a skyblue with a white top. Ra told me to ride with Freddie on our way out to Queens to see what the beef was. Now, keep in mind it's now like 12:30 in the a.m.!!! At this point, my hand is on Freddie's passenger door handle waiting for Freddie to pop the lock so I could get in. All of a sudden, Freddie says that he "forgot" to get something for his moms earlier that day. (I can't remember what it was exactly but it was something that you couldn't pick up at 12am). Ra tells Freddie that it almost one in the morning, nothing's open. Freddie said he knew a spot that was open and he could get whatever it was. Ra said "OK" and told me to get into his Benz. (He had the white 190)I got into the Benz with Ra and Snake. As we was driving to the bodega to get some beer, Ra turns down the music and says: "My cousin didn't have no beef, that was some chick from Queens". "I said it was beef only because Freddie kept saying he wanted to fuck somethin up so I gave him an opportunity to do so and yall see what happened". So, don't be fooled by all that tough talk Freddie is saying now. Like Tupac told Puffy: "You and I know what's going on". Peace.

This is nuthin but a pure publicity stunt, jealousy and envy brings hate. Dude aint nuthin compared to Rakim. i hope Rakim rips him to shreads if he feels the need 2 respond.

Yo Kwasim Allah,
No bullshit, is that story really, really true?
Seriously? Keep it real. Is that honest to god? It's intriguing, but if it ain't true we won't hold it against you. Is that shit word?

Yo I just read on some other site that this little shit sprung up because some sucka-ass interviewer asked Rakim about the old as beef. Trying to incite him.

And Rakim got hype and was like I ain't never run from a fuckin battle.

And that's where I got a problem.

I been seeing this shit run rampant in the last like 3 or 4 years.

These sucka-ass, slave-trading radio personalities keep tryin keep our artist beefin'.

They should all change thier names to WBEF radio where hiphop beef lives.

Same thing with these fake as "journalists".

They have no musical points to discuss with legends. So they ask them who they got beef with. Or try to get 'em to say who they 'ont like.

Y'all ever read the old, old issue of the source with Rakim on the cover being interviewed by Canibis?

That's how it's supposed to go.

But these fake dudes keep raising our artists' blood pressure. Creating "beef" out of thin air.

So now Rakim says I ain't never run from no battle.

And not to back down or doubt himself, Foxx says I'll crush Rakim.

Like magic.

Beef from nowhere.

I seen them do that shit to MOP.
when they was about to sign with roc.

MOP come through the radio station and they was like yeah we wanna say peace to Dame and you know good looking out to er'rybody and so on and so on.

And then the sucka ass dude gon say yeah but I heard dame dash said blah blah blah blah.

And MOP went off. Started wilin' saying fuck er'rybody.

Same thing happened with method man.

Normal casual interview, then the interviewer go bring mef's wife personal health and beef with wendy williams.

Mef's whole demeanor changed. He started wilin. he was peace and they pushed his buttons and made him mad.

That shit broke my heart.

Cuz I recognize the game that these suckas is using.

In entertainment, conflict sells.

If you walking down the street and all the couples on both sides of the street holdin hands then you'll mind ya business.

But if girl smacks the shit out of her boyfriend and say "who you callin a bitch?" then you gon look.
And when you look we can show you an advertisement.

all these suckas know this game and they milk it at our expense.

so yo, if you know foxx or ra let them know this shit before it blows. or if you an artist, don't let these cowards play you and make you fight your peers.

Out.

-Black People

Fuck Rakim!
Freddie Foxxx would murder him on record or in the streets!

Dont front!

fuck u niggas

-White People

Look hip hop is hip hop. There has been and alwayz will be beef. But those of us who know Ra for who and what he is, also know that he don't need to prove anything. Freddy show some respect. Let the brotha enjoy what he as achieved. He laid vocals that became the measurement of excellence. Leave your own leagacy without trying to put out the flames of another brotha's who's flame is eternal in measurment.

Why is this even an issue?...one, the majority of people who MAY know who Freddie Foxx is, WILL KNOW who Rakim is...and not b/c fox was late to the studio either...Rakim always been a rapper that was more about "look, i just destroyed you verbally, here's an autograph...peace"...now foxx wants to jump up when he never even destoryed n.o.r.e....i respect foxx, but not like i do rakim...i say foxx needs to make another album with marky mark,...WHOOPS...i meant john cena (easy mistake), and leave rakim alone...follow the leader

Rakim comes at Freddie Foxxx in a magazine article in 2006. Freddie Foxxx responds in 2006.
Rakim fans start shakin like a mothafucka for their lord & savior. People start passing their oppinions and selling the situation out as a stunt, bumpy reads how rakim has won MAD battles, Bumpy reads again that the fans don't want this, they'd rather see a jewelery battle between Puff & 50, seems like the fans know the same thing that the real Hip Hop heads know, but wont admit, Rakim should'ah kept his oppinion to himself. Get ready for another disappointment.

ITs A Rap BAttle People,

Cold Crush vs. Fantastastic Romantic 5
The Force Emcees vs. The Fat Boys
Kool Moe D vs. Busy Bee
Mikey D vs Melle Melle
Supernatural vs. Craig G
Freddie Foxxx vs. Big Daddy Kane (Latin Quarters 88)
LL Cool J vs. Canibus
Foxy Brown vs. Lil Kim
LL Cool J vs. Kool Moe D
Rakim vs. Big Daddy Kane ?

Come On, the list goes on. Hip Hop battles are always relevant. Beats & Rhymes. Stop with the Bullshit or Start listening to Rock Music.

posted by the Blog Finders for Bumpy Knuckles.

once an artist thinks he is untouchable he gets lazy. its a fact. battles are part of hip hop. when everyone says they are better than the rest sooner or later its gonna start a battle. whoever wins it is usually the better mc.

But, Blog Finders, the point you are missing is it's always been about rhymes.

Even when it ain't no battles we would make our own battle tapes.

But it was always about rhymes.

You ever see the treacherous 3 vs. Run DMC? That's how it's supposed to be.
they stood on stage next to each other and battled.

these dudes are like one step from fighting in their rhymes when they battle nowadays.

and that's the diversion.

And to be honest, we welcome battles and competition.

But we really are afraid.

And I'll admit it AFRAID
to see another loss like Biggie and Pac over songs.

You know if it was a battle in '88 it would been like R.A.W vs Lyrics of fury and the focus is about rhyming.

nowadays suckas don't know how to battle.
they start shootin at album release parties,
start fightin
get all locked up and the hiphop nation is out.

cuz of a song.

freddy foxx is known for his tough talk and gunplay in his raps. And I ain't sayin I doubt him. He might really be built like that on the street side of things.

but I ain't tryin' see him prove himself violently with rakim. Only lyrically.

if this was rakim vs anybody else i wouldn't have to say that.

if you bloggin' for freddy foxx for real, get in his ear and tell im to keep it peace.

i don't wanna read about nobody else gettin shot.
I'm sorry.

Especially if it two dudes who fought for hiphop.

-Black People

^Correction:

*Fought OVER Hip hop

Hip hop can be fought FOR..

RIP Rakim

-White People

What I meant was Rakim and Freddy Foxx held it down for hiphop.
They fought sucka emcees and wack music to preserve hiphop.

these ain't the type of people I wanna see beefin' against each other.

They're on the same side.

I've got mixed feelings about this beef. I have much respect for both Rakim and Freddie Foxxx... But like some of you said... it seems like Rakim is out of the picture, and Freddie Foxx is still here... spitting hard flows and he's getting better and better... Ever since his verse on Militia, he has been one of my favorite mc's. But I must admit, when I heard that Freddie Foxx have called out Rakim, I thought to myself... who else have the guts to do somthing like this? I'm looking forward to hearing the track, and I hope Rakim will respond. But most importently I hope they will keep it lyrical. In battles these days, its either, fake vs fake, or real vs. fake... this time it's real vs real!This is somthing an old school hiphoper can look forward to. Peace.

Man,MOTHERFUCK FREDDY FOXX.NIGGA YOU WACK.I BOUGHT YOUR LAME AS ALBUM BACK IN 88 & THERE WAS ONLY 2 GOOD CUTS ON THAT MOFO.YO ASS IS STILL TRYING TO BE RECOGNIZED AFTER ALL THESE YEARS.YOU HAD A BETTER CHANCE BEING A PRIZE FIGHTER(BUMPY KNUCKLES).YOU GOT LYRICS BUT YOUR DELIVERY IS WACK.SCREAMIN'& SHIT.RAKIM HAS THE FLOW.THATS THE DIFFERENCE,DUMMY.ITS NOT WHAT YOU SAY ITS HOW YOU SAY IT,AND RAKIM MASTERED THAT.YOU STILL STUCK ON THAT RAH RAH RAH SHIT.I AM TOO NIGGA.BUT MORE LIKE RA RA RA.OUT.TERMINATOR....

rakim will win he still got fight left!!

Yo, check out Bumpy Knucks (Freddie Foxxx) dis record here, http://xxlmag.com/online/?p=5134. It's wack and he even goes at God's son (Nas) in the joint. Wack nigga trying to resurrect his lame career! Ra's gotta smash Bumpy on Oh My God though...if he ever drops that joint.

FUCK BUMPY KNUCKLES, freddie FAG! how the fuck can you talk shit to rakim and nas? are you fuckin stoopid!?!?!?!?

That was wack.

And sad.

The rhymes was simplistic.

And he used a gimmick tryin' to rhyme on Move the Crowd.

Damn Freddie.

-Black People

I'm a big Bumpy Knuckle fan but this move I cant co-sign on noooo level. Bumpy actin like these lil young muhafckas that diss a known nigga just boost sales or somethin. YOU GETS NOOOOO COOL POINTS FOR GETTIN AT RAKIM ALLAH, at the end of the day Bumpy got good songs but we're talkin about Ra!!!! A nigga whose whole aura changed the game there's no fckin comparison.. Fall back Bumpy and just ryhme.
1LUV

MAn... how the fuck y'all gonna diss Rakim?

WHat the fuck did Freedie Foxxx do that he could gain so much respect from y'all? THe man was practically a bum all these years while Rakim redifined hip-hop and showed us a new way to rhyme... THe man influenced Nas, Jigga, Immortal Technique, Wu-Tang, everybody basically... who the fuck did Freedie Foxx influence?

Freedie Foxx is like Cannibus trying to diss LL... Foxx is just mad that Rakim will live forever way after Ra travels the universe and Foxxx way fade away if not he already faded away... Foxxx influenced nobody, Foxxx aint contributed to the growth and beauty of hip-hop, Foxx is a broke MC who trying to sell a few records by dissing the un-dissables...

Anybody dissing Rakim is dissing Hip-hop.
The only people to diss hip-hop are rock stars and politicians... A rapper dissing hip-hop should not deserve any credibility or respect...
Rakim changed hip-hop forever.

WHy didnt Freedie Cockxxx diss Ra when he was with Eric B? I guess he was scared... or he was also a fan of Rakim... everybody was...
Rakim stayed on the low this whole decade...
He released new shit that is ill...
More ill and memorable than the best shit Freedie has ever released .....
(check Ra's verse on mobb deep's "Hoodlum" and that shit on "Blueprint 2" )
Freedie Foxxx is a typical rapper...
Rakim is the rapper's rapper's rapper...
Rakim always has memorable raps...
Structured raps...
Much thought and heart...
Freedie Cockxxx is a wanksta who rhymes about violence in a way that is typical to other rappers...

A puppet for the label... If he IS in a label...
WHo gives a fuck anyway....

Anyway...
Holla at your boy DUMU
and tell me what you think iight?
then I'll drop more wisdom than now...

YO you guys are all retarted.. Where and when did Freddie Foxx diss Nas????? Nas and Freddie are fucking mad cool with eachother, and they have done tracks together. I have mad respect for Rakim too, I hope they keep the battle clean if it does happen. It seems like people are forgetting back in the days when BDP was out and Freddie was down with them. Rakim is nice but he isn't the GOD of Rap, KRS-ONE is, AND I'M SURE IF YOU BUMP INTO ANY TRUE
SCHOOL KATS, OLD SCHOOL KATS, OR PIONEERS THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT TO YOUR FACE.

Freddie Foxxx Vs. Rakim
i think it more personal, and the fan base is causing more drama towards it
even though, hip hop is about battles and who has the most skills

Peace. True indeed that story is an actual fact. My word is bond and my bond is my life and I will give my LIFE before my word shall fail. Why do you think Freddie hasn't responded to that story since I first posted it? He has responded to everything else BUT that. This is just a publicity stunt for Freddie to sell some records. I'm not here to diss Freddie but to expose him for what he really is and NOT what he appears to be. I remember back in the day in the "Danch", circa 87-88, Freddie wasn't even hangin with us on Straight Path. We used to be at "Jay's", the "Motorcycle Club" and mad spots. Me. Rakim, Rashaun (formerly Snake Bliss), I-Ron, Kamel, Big Loce, Big Natural, Divine, the Ramos brothers; Sean and G; I can keep naming names but it isn't necessary. Freddie knows. That was close to 20 yrs ago and myself and the brothers I just named are STILL cool to this very day. And by the way, those old school battles dude named were different than this one for the cause, those were REAL type battles were BOTH emcee's had skills and after the battle you could say that was a good one. This isn't one of them. But, I do applaud Freddy for still grindin in the rap game and trying to do him, but this aint the way homeboy. Peace.

Peace Kwasim,
That sound like a brother there who memorized his lessons. (1-40, Lost Found no. 1, English Lesson C-1, etc.)

Test: Who is the colored man?

-Black People

I don't know WHO you are but I knowledged sound. Peace.

Peace.
I know Freddie, Rakim, Alvin Toney and Snake Bliss. (me and Snake still are in contact to this day)When I first met Ra, it was in 1986 or 87. We were at his moms house in Wyndanch Long Island in the basement playing records and Ra was on the wheels of steel. Besides myself, Snake (who now goes by the name of Rashaun), Ra, Ra's cousin A.J. and Freddie. While we were down there, Freddie kept saying he wanted to fuck somebody up ALL NIGHT I might add. Everybody kind of ignored him because that was Freddie just poppin shit. Keep in mind that it was around 11pm to 12am in the morning. Later, Ra's sister told him he had a phone call upstairs. He went upstairs to take the call and we were still downstairs. Ra came back in like a half hour and told us his cousin had some beef in Queens and we was heading out there to see what was going on and handle it. Ra then cut off all the equipment and we went outside to the cars. Freddie had a Cadillac Seville then, I'll never forget it; it was like a skyblue with a white top. Ra told me to ride with Freddie on our way out to Queens to see what the beef was. Now, keep in mind it's now like 12:30 in the a.m.!!! At this point, my hand is on Freddie's passenger door handle waiting for Freddie to pop the lock so I could get in. All of a sudden, Freddie says that he "forgot" to get something for his moms earlier that day. (I can't remember what it was exactly but it was something that you couldn't pick up at 12am). Ra tells Freddie that it almost one in the morning, nothing's open. Freddie said he knew a spot that was open and he could get whatever it was. Ra said "OK" and told me to get into his Benz. (He had the white 190)I got into the Benz with Ra and Snake. As we was driving to the bodega to get some beer, Ra turns down the music and says: "My cousin didn't have no beef, that was some chick from Queens". "I said it was beef only because Freddie kept saying he wanted to fuck somethin up so I gave him an opportunity to do so and yall see what happened". So, don't be fooled by all that tough talk Freddie is saying now. Like Tupac told Puffy: "You and I know what's going on". Peace.

Peace. True indeed that story is an actual fact. My word is bond and my bond is my life and I will give my LIFE before my word shall fail. Why do you think Freddie hasn't responded to that story since I first posted it? He has responded to everything else BUT that. This is just a publicity stunt for Freddie to sell some records. I'm not here to diss Freddie but to expose him for what he really is and NOT what he appears to be. I remember back in the day in the "Danch", circa 87-88, Freddie wasn't even hangin with us on Straight Path. We used to be at "Jay's", the "Motorcycle Club" and mad spots. Me. Rakim, Rashaun (formerly Snake Bliss), I-Ron, Kamel, Big Loce, Big Natural, Divine, the Ramos brothers; Sean and G; I can keep naming names but it isn't necessary. Freddie knows. That was close to 20 yrs ago and myself and the brothers I just named are STILL cool to this very day. And by the way, those old school battles dude named were different than this one for the cause, those were REAL type battles were BOTH emcee's had skills and after the battle you could say that was a good one. This isn't one of them. But, I do applaud Freddy for still grindin in the rap game and trying to do him, but this aint the way homeboy. Peace.

Lets just hope that this doesn't end with one of them throwing their walker at the other...